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Message from Atmos on 12/17/2008 by Mike Quinsey

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    Atmos 17-December-2008

    I come with gratitude and thanks to you all for your efforts to bring Light to the souls of Earth, and for your dedication to your individual tasks. The plan of enlightenment started long ago, and has brought about an awakening that has moved you onto the path of Ascension. It is one of major opportunity to leave the Earth in its present lower dimension, and proceed with it to the higher levels. Those who are experiencing at this time will gain some progress resulting in an expanded consciousness, even if they prefer not to move out of the 3D level. What is happening cannot be totally ignored by those who have a fixed mindset, as the outer happenings impinge upon their consciousness and will affect their understanding.

    It is important that each and every one of you keep an open mind, as you assimilate actions that may not be all that they appear on the outside. There has been so much happening with our input that you cannot possibly know about it all, and secrecy even for us is an important part of our strategy to keep ahead of the dark forces. It becomes vital that most of our plans and support from our allies are covert operations, as our progress may be deliberately delayed. At present we protect your President Elect, as his inauguration must go ahead regardless of any plots to prevent it happening. The dark may have no conscience or play by the rules, but we are also working from a place of strength with all of the technology and support that is the Galactic Federation.

    Regardless of our position and power, one thing we cannot do is to deliberately alter the course of your destiny to speed matters up. Certain events are already manifesting and are part of your karmic patterning through your freewill choice. However, come what may the absolute certainty is that Ascension will come to pass as divinely decreed. It may be a bumpy ride but you will reach that point of no return to the old Earth, and you will eventually move out of this cycle of duality forever. Meantime matters are chaotic and you continue to experience the fall out from the financial collapse. The dark as always seize such opportunities to further their own cause, and much of the “bail out” monies are destined to find their way into the pockets of the Illuminati. That will only be a momentary respite for them from experiencing their own demise, as ultimately they will be de-cloaked and their hidden assets returned to the people.

    The world at large has little idea of how corrupt successive governments have been in the U.S., but they are awakening to their methods and are beginning to reject them. As you might correctly say, a handful of people in high places have controlled the world for millennia of time, and have advanced their plans for global control almost to the point of success. However, they reckoned without the Light, and the many souls who have incarnated upon Earth as Lightworkers to create a shift in power. It has been the invisible force that has gradually penetrated the fortresses of the dark Ones, and weakened their position. The truth has been long arriving in the public sector because your media is largely under the control of the Illuminati, but this has been partially balanced by the freedom of expression from your Internet sources.

    Before very long there will be changes that will bring back free speech, and once those with stories to tell feel safe from retaliation you will be astounded at what has been going on in your name. Your greatest fears will seem insignificant, when you learn the truth of how close you came to totally losing your freedom and becoming enslaved. We tell you these things because we wish you to know that you are not alone in your fight against the dark forces. We are your “not so invisible army”, as you see more of our presence in modern times than any previous period since we first appeared in your skies. We hope that gives you an assurance that you are protected, and we can tell you that regardless of what threats are perceived, you will not be involved in a nuclear exchange or war. Your governments are aware of this edict from us, but still use such threats against each other. Nuclear weapons are an abomination that is so destructive, even to the point of damaging the souls of those in their path. Fortunately, in the past where you have let off nuclear devices, we have placed a protective shield around your Earth to prevent damage to the outer planets, and life forces in Space. Do you still wonder why Man is considered such a danger to other forms of life?

    What is sad is that by and large you have the potential to be loving and caring, and do have a natural feeling of responsibility for each other. However, you have been subjected to brain washing and control, that would have you believe that you are separated from each other. The differences because of color and creed have been deliberately played upon, until you fear those who are painted as different to you. The dark ones then make you turn to them for protection, whilst promoting the very situations that have provoked incidents in the first place. Indeed, in many instances they are the ones responsible for deliberately creating the initial problems.

    You ask how do we change the fabric of society and create one that reflects our true selves as Beings of Light and Love. The answer is by envisioning exactly what you perceive the alternative to be from what you are now experiencing. By living that vision you create the circumstances that will enable it to manifest, and in that you are becoming successful. Gradually you have weakened the power of the dark to continue on their path of world domination, and they can no longer exercise the control over you that they had previously. It is why the old paradigm is changing and a new one is taking its place, and is taking root and creating the necessary opportunities for wide reaching changes that are beneficial to everyone.

    I am Atmos from Sirius, and guiding Michael on his chosen path as a bridge between you and us. There is a network of Lightworkers that are part of our presence on Earth, and present conditions are bringing you together. That is important for the immediate future of you all, as there is a greater power in numbers. Go about your business in the Light and Love that is the real you, the indestructible Godspark of God.

    Thank you Atmos.
    Mike Quinsey.

    Source: http://www.treeofgoldenlight.com

39 Comments
  1. #1 flurgx
    December 17, 2008 pm31 2:17 pm

    atmos is this realy you? i´m reading this message just like blablabla … similar to the messages from salusa … i missed your “power” in this message! anyway great times are upon us and i thank you all for your work here on earth!

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  2. #2 Roboh2012
    December 17, 2008 pm31 4:57 pm

    I disagree, flurgx, I thought this message from Atmos was on point and well said. He filled in a number of holes in my understanding and that helps keep my hopes alive. At least for me, he said what I needed to hear.

    Thanks, Atmos!

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  3. #3 Jivan
    December 17, 2008 pm31 6:05 pm

    Thank you Mike for your perserverence and giving yourself to be a channel!
    Let’s all focus on what we want to grow – for what we focus on grows…

    Disagreements don’t have a place here anymore.
    Unity and collaboration is our only way now.
    Love is our food and Light is our way.

    LoveLight to All
    Jivan

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  4. #4 Truth
    December 17, 2008 pm31 7:18 pm

    “Disagreements have no place here”? Yeah, um, maybe if you are a dictator or evil tyrant. But in most civilized evolved forums people can agree to disagree. See, Dogma is ego and that stagnates When you know everything then you are no longer open to learn. When you don’t question you follow blindly, as does the Taliban puppets who believe their insane teachings. This whole journey is about expansion, growth and learning, right? This doesn’t come from stiffling ones ideas but welcoming them all and then, as if at a big smogasborg, you can choose what you will. Growth comes by freedom not silencing others. Look, you can only hear “the check is in the mail” for so long. Any reasonible person who waits a reasonable time would then have to question if the check was indeed ever mailed, if they were lied to, and so on. We have been told about Oct 14th, and even before that, long before that, that they are coming, soon, soon. And you acted shocked that some come on here and question? Is being positive the best choice? Indeed. But we need to discern between positive and out right gullible.

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  5. #5 soul shine
    December 17, 2008 pm31 9:03 pm

    I hear a great deal of fear coming from “Truth”…..staying in the light is not being gullable it is staying in the energy of love and a higher knowing….I’m always amazed at how many responses from some of these updates are based in fear…..sad…..I am so excited to hear what is upon us and i see all of the positive changes happening right NOW!!!!!……You can “view” from an obsevation stance and not go into those frequencies so they don’t have an effect on you……Do what makes you “HAPPY” Do what brings you “JOY” and follow your intuition in a loving way and you will never go wrong…..Thank you for these wonderful messages from a higher truth perspective…..keep them coming……

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  6. #6 Robin.
    December 18, 2008 pm31 12:34 am

    Maybe ‘Jivan’ actually means ‘disagreements don’t have a place here (ON EARTH) anymore’ as opposed to this actual Forum, ‘Truth’??!!

    Also it is parhaps worth getting this word ‘soon’ into perspective isn’t it? We have repeatedly been told that the actual timing of ‘First (Mass) Contact’ depends to very a large degree upon OUR readiness and the state of evolution of OUR consciousness here on Earth for it to occur.

    How long have we been here? 100,000 years? 1 Million Years? 1 Billion years? Well surely ANY TIME in the next five years IS, comparatively speaking, VERY soon indeed?
    Maybe it is more ‘constructive’ to spend the interim period focussing not upon how ‘soon’ does not in fact appear to be ‘soon’ at all, but instead upon being the Light, learning of our ‘Oneness’ and sharing with those millions of others who probably still have little or no idea of what is actually occurring (or about to occur ‘soon’) here?

    In Light!

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  7. #7 chris
    December 18, 2008 pm31 3:56 am

    “The truth has been long arriving in the public sector because your media is largely under the control of the Illuminati, but this has been partially balanced by the freedom of expression from your Internet sources.”

    The media has typically such a negative tone that I’ve decided to use that to my advantage. It is a wonderful resource of opportunities to heal with love and light. Whenever a situation appears on the news I send love & light to it. This is a method of how to transmute the darkness. When there are no situations that need healing on the news, then I concentrate on healing Gaia’s grid and anchoring more light. The darkness cannot stop a constant and ever increasing stream of light.

    Peace and love to you all.

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  8. #8 Arc
    December 18, 2008 pm31 5:33 am

    “Disagreements have no place here” because the energy is so high that wisdom has completed it’s circle from ignorance to knowledge from knowledge to knowing from knowing to wisdom from wisdom to freedom passing from physical pranic mental emotional astral etheric causal karmic body and all questions are being resolved. Still external energies are coming here to wash themselves in the corridors of light. Light-workers are creating such gateways under the lightships with the covering of internet website locations and communities and also physical places on earth and are creating formations of light in various places in crop circle ways through their cleansed bodies. Shifting the veil of illusion, bringing the light in full power.

    Love and Light

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  9. #9 Mike
    December 18, 2008 pm31 7:06 am

    I had a dream, can’t remember all of it, but I think in it I was talking to actual dead people. The place I was wasn’t a very pleasant place. It could have been worse. I’m not to keen on where I am here in waking life, which is a hellish dimension of a life indeed. But this dream place was maybe a step lower. Not too much lower, but lower. I found myself pulling myself out of a river. I ended up in a dark tunnel under an overpass over a river. I was trying to find my way out. The water was frozen over as it was winter. I saw an old guy get out of the water and walk away from me. I thought, “man, this dude swims in this stuff? Why isn’t he dead/” I tried to talk to him, and he wasn’t very friendly. He looked at me and kept walking away. I couldn’t get up on the overpass where I heard some cars honking and saying “It’s a cat”. I assumed a cat was on the over pass and cars were trying to avoid it. I went back to the tunnel where I saw this girl looking stunned. I asked her if she knew a way out. She just kept looking stunned. I said, “If you don’t know I’ll figure it out. No worries”. She snapped out of her trance and said, “I’m sorry, I was with my dying Mother and I snap in and out of consciousness” I tried to make sense of what that meant and said, “Astral travel?” The thought crossed my mind she just came from an accident on the overpass as her hair was wet from being in the river? I wasn’t sure. Then an elevator opened up behind her and we entered. We entered what looked like a government building, but again, not very pleasant. Everything was cold, plain, like as if we were in a poor section of Russia or something. See said, “I have to find my Mother” and went down the hall. I saw a table with a lady there. I looked at the table and their were documents and each had a name tag. Like you would see if you were to go to some kind of convention where you had prepaid. I saw my name on there and some lady budged in front of me and then grabbed a paper and left. I looked back on the table and my name was no longer there. I said to the lady at the table, “I think that lady took my stuff”. She motioned to a door and said, “you better hurry, the show is going to start soon” and I woke up abruptly. Anybody have any ideas? What the heck was that dream all about?

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  10. #10 love
    December 18, 2008 pm31 8:29 am

    Everybody is astrally travelling the whole time as he also is already god and creator of all existence. The difference is in how aware you are of it, how ready you are to consciously change your consciousness to light abundance love freedom. For you and everybody else. Forgive evil and cleanse it to move beyond it as it is only a projection of your mind and it calls you to live in a relative reality of superior and inferior states that are not at all of divine nature. The question would be why is this happening to you? why evil happens why pain happens? Because you allow it, because you are not accepting it through a higher power of love and light but instead you may be keeping yourself in fear for no reason. This allows “evil” to continue intruding in your life forcing you to expand, to become wider. You are astral travelling consciously when dreams become pretty much intense realities to the level of everyday life or more. It is when you have left your body and are conscious of your astral body. But the key is to be aware all time of all your bodies until they merge with the divine. Otherwise higher dimensions will look like mountains to you. I hope it helps you my friend.

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  11. #11 earth
    December 18, 2008 pm31 9:21 am

    Earth is not a planet as we think. Earth is a being. It is none less multidimensional than a lightship & merkabah or isolated from the rest of cosmos. Only our views separate us from higher cosmos.

    A video that i was expecting to see quite sometime now, finally rysa did it : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxyNiOT4cl0

    Thanks and light and love.

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  12. #12 Polish Translation - Polskie Tłumaczenie
    December 18, 2008 pm31 12:41 pm

    Przesłanie Atmosa – 17.12.2008 – Otrzymał Mike Quinsey

    Przybywam z wdzięcznością i podziękowaniami dla was wszystkich za wasze wysiłki w przynoszeniu Światła duszom Ziemi i za wasze poświęcenie w imię waszych indywidualnych zadań. Plan oświecenia rozpoczął się dawno temu i przyniósł ze sobą przebudzenie, które zaprowadziło Was na ścieżkę Wniebowstąpienia. To jest jedna z głównych okazji do tego, aby opuścić Ziemię w jej obecnym niższym wymiarze, a w zamian za to wyruszyć na jej wyższe poziomy. Ci, którzy żyją w tym czasie, osiągną pewien postęp prowadzający do rozszerzonej świadomości nawet, jeśli wolą oni nie ruszać się wcale z poziomu 3 Wymiaru. To, co się właśnie dzieje nie może zostać całkowicie zignorowane przez tych, którzy mają utarty sposób myślenia, ponieważ zewnętrzne wydarzenia zderzają się z ich świadomością i wpływają na ich stan pojmowania rzeczy.

    To jest ważne, żeby każdy z was utrzymywał otwarty umysł, ponieważ przyjmujecie za oczywiste, zdarzenia, które niekoniecznie mogą być tym, czym wydają się być na zewnątrz. Wraz z naszym przybyciem tak wiele się dzieje, że nie możecie się o tym prawdopodobnie wszystkiego dowiedzieć, a tajemnica nawet dla nas jest ważną częścią naszej strategii, by pozostać o krok przed ciemnymi siłami. To staje się ważne, by większość z naszych planów i aktów poparcia ze strony naszych sojuszników pozostawała ukrytymi działaniami, ponieważ nasz postęp mógłby zostać umyślnie opóźniony. Obecnie ochraniamy waszego Nowo Wybranego Prezydenta, ponieważ jego inauguracja jest teraz najważniejsza bez względu na jakiekolwiek wydarzenia starające się temu zapobiec. Ciemność może nie mieć żadnego sumienia i grać teraz poza wszelkimi regułami, ale my również wyprowadzamy działania z miejsca mocy i siły wraz z całą z technologią i poparciem, które nazywa się Galaktyczną Federacją.

    Pomijając naszą pozycję i siłę, jedyną rzeczą, której nie możemy zrobić, to umyślne zmienienie kursu waszego przeznaczenia, by przyspieszyć bieg rzeczy. Pewne wydarzenia już się manifestują i są one częścią wypełniania waszego karmicznego wzoru zgodnie z wyborami waszej wolnej woli. Jednakże, cokolwiek się stanie absolutnym pewnikiem jest to, że wydarzy się Wniebowstąpienie jako, że jest ono boską obietnicą. To może być wyboista przejażdżka jednak osiągniecie ten cel bez możliwości powrotu do starej Ziemi i w końcu opuścicie ten cykl rozdzielania na zawsze. Tymczasem sprawy są wciąż chaotyczne a wy będziecie doświadczać wyjścia z finansowego upadku. Ciemność jak zawsze chwytać się będzie takich możliwości by realizować swoje własne interesy i wiele ze “zwolnionego ” kapitału powędruje do kieszeni Illuminati. To będzie jednak dla nich tylko chwilowe odroczenie od doświadczenia ich własnego końca jako, że ostatecznie zostaną oni zdemaskowani, a ich ukryte majątki powrócą do ludzi.

    Świat w ogóle ma mało pojęcia jak wiele skorumpowanych następujących po sobie rządów istniało w USA, lecz one budzą się, widząc metody własnego postępowania i zaczynają je odrzucać. Moglibyście powiedzieć poprawnie, że garść ludzi na wysokich urzędach kontrolowała świat przez millennia czasu i udoskonaliła swoje plany globalnej kontroli prawie do zwycięskiej perfekcji. Aczkolwiek nie zważali oni na Światło i nie uwzględnili oni przybycia wielu dusz, które wcieliły się na Ziemi jako Wysłannicy Światła, po to by spowodować zmianę sił. To była niewidzialna siła, która stopniowo penetrowała fortece ciemnych jednostek i osłabiała ich pozycję. Prawda długo wychodzi na jaw w przestrzeni publicznej, ponieważ wasze media są głównie pod kontrolą Illuminati, ale to częściowo zostało również zrównoważone przez wolność wyrażania się na łamach waszego Internetu.

    Już wkrótce nadejdą zmiany, które przyniosą z powrotem wolną mowę i kiedy tylko Ci, którzy mają coś do powiedzenia będą czuć się bezpieczni od odwetu, będziecie zadziwieni tym, co robiło się w Waszym imieniu. Wasze największe lęki będą wydawać się znikome, kiedy pojmiecie prawdę dotyczącą tego jak blisko byliście całkowitej utraty własnej wolności i stania się niewolnikami. Mówimy wam o tych rzeczach, ponieważ chcielibyśmy, byście wiedzieli, że nie jesteście sami w waszej walce przeciwko ciemnym siłom. Jesteśmy waszą “nie tak znowu niewidzialną armią”, jako, że postrzegacie naszą obecność we współczesnych czasach bardziej niż w jakiejkolwiek poprzedniej epoce od momentu naszego pierwszego pojawienia się na waszym niebie. Mamy nadzieję, że dajemy wam zapewnienie, iż jesteście chronieni i możemy powiedzieć wam, że bez względu na groźby, jakie obserwujecie, nie będziecie zamieszani w atomową wymianę ciosów lub wojnę. Wasze rządy są świadome tego zarządzenia pochodzącego z naszych sfer, ale nadal używają takich gróźb przeciwko sobie. Broń nuklearne jest odrazą, która jest niszczycielska, nawet do tego stopnia, że może uszkodzić dusze tych, którzy są na swojej ścieżce. Na szczęście w przeszłości, kiedy użyliście jądrowej broni, umieściliśmy ochronną tarczę dookoła waszej Ziemi, by zapobiec uszkodzeniom zewnętrznych planet i sił życia w Przestrzeni. Nadal zastanawiacie się, dlaczego Człowiek jest uważany za takie niebezpieczeństwo dla innych form życia?

    Smutne jest to, że posiadacie potencjał do miłości i troski oraz macie naturalne poczucie odpowiedzialności za siebie nawzajem, a jednak zostaliście poddani praniu mózgu i kontroli, która sprawiła, że uwierzyliście, że jesteście rozdzieleni od siebie. Różnice z powodu koloru i wyznań celowo były w was wgrywane, aż zaczęliście się bać tych, którzy pomalowani są na kolor inny do waszego. Jednostki z Ciemności sprawiły wtedy, że zwróciliście się do nich z prośba o ochronę, podczas gdy one same wywoływały sytuacje, które to z kolei były ogniskami zapalnymi poważnych wypadków. Faktycznie w wielu przykładach to one były odpowiedzialne za umyślne tworzenie pierwszych, inicjacyjnych problemów.

    Pytacie jak możemy zmienić strukturę społeczną i stworzyć takie społeczeństwo, które będzie odzwierciedleniem naszej wspólnej prawdziwej jaźni – Istot Światła i Miłości. Odpowiedzią jest wyobrażenie sobie dokładne tego, co jest alternatywą, dla tego, czego teraz doświadczacie. Przez podążanie za tą wizją stworzycie okoliczności, które umożliwią jej manifestację i w ten sposób odniesiecie sukces. Stopniowo osłabialiście władzę ciemności w utrzymywaniu się na ich ścieżce dominacji świata; oni nie mogą dłużej sprawować kontroli nad Wami, tak jak robili to poprzednio. To dlatego stary paradygmat zmienia się a nowy zastępuje jego miejsce, zakorzenia się i tworzy niezbędne możliwości dla daleko sięgających zmian, które są korzystne dla każdego.

    Jestem Atmos z Suriusza i prowadzę Michaela na wybranej przez niego ścieżce jako pomostu między wami a nami. Istnieje sieć Posłańców Światła, która jest częścią naszej obecności na Ziemi, a obecne warunki sprawiają, że łączycie się razem i scalacie swoje siły. Jest to niezmiernie ważne dla waszej najbliższej przyszłości, ponieważ w grupie istnieje większa moc. Realizujcie swoje sprawy w Miłości i Świetle, które są waszą prawdziwą naturą, niezniszczalną Iskrą Boskości.

    Dziękuję ci Atmos,
    Mike Quinsey

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  13. #13 All Natural
    December 18, 2008 pm31 1:12 pm

    With the wars and monney, GMO foods are the largest threat we face today.
    GF has never made an allusion to the total food control with Codex Alimentarius
    (banning vitamins, mineral, and natural herbs worldwide as of December 31, 2009)?
    Obama’s Agriculture Secretary supports GMO crops, big agra ????

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  14. #14 ob
    December 19, 2008 pm31 3:14 am

    I think it is all taken care constantly by the galactic federation of light on individual level. They do work in your body if you allow them and you are in no danger.

    By the way Obama is perhaps the only president and politician, perhaps i cannot tell for sure .. that is reaching self-realization in this life. The buddha state you can say. But it is higher as the energy is different at this time.

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  15. #15 chris
    December 19, 2008 pm31 5:07 am

    Speaking of talking to “dead” people, please check out http://www.near-death.com

    Also the back of Steve Murray’s book Reiki the Ultimate Guide Volume One has a “how to” contact the “dead” and channel beings.

    Also “dead” and “fear” are only illusions based upon duality. Please remember your soul never dies only the physcial vehicle and fear only exists in darkness which is an illusion because your soul is brilliant white light.

    Believe me from experience, those I thought were “dead” were quite okay in their astral bodies and doing just fine on another plane of existence. Great description of the planes at http://www.near-death.com too.

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  16. #16 Anonymous
    December 19, 2008 pm31 7:39 am

    I am a single man. I have been lonely and trying to find love online (as I have no friends to go to bars or social events with) via internet dating services. At work, I am at a pod on the phone so I have no oppertunity to talk to others (besides they are all mostly married off). Given that, I have been trying to use p*rn (this site won’t let me spell it or I get blocked) for the last year or so to find love. Mind you, I’m not looking at evil abusive bondage rage scene type p*rn. I am just looking at people making love and I pretend it’s my wedding night and all of that. I say to myself she is my girlfirend, my wife, and I tell myself woman like this want to be with me. I get so into it at the time I am doing it, which has been often for a while now. Yet, I’m still alone. Given Law Of Attraction, what you think about manifests, then why doesn’t p*rn manifest love? Or sex for that matter? I’ve devoted much time and focus on it. Now, before you self righteous judgemental types get on me for this, mind you, I don’t devote ALL my time to this. I am trying other avenues to find love. But I figured if LOA is what you think about, focus on, and believe can happen, then it should have happened by now. Just curious. As for p*rn being bad, I disagree, so save your breath. I don’t think it’s explotive to woman as they volunteer and even seek it out. In fact, Playboy Magazine is run by a woman, Hugh Heffners daughter. Nudity and sex are beautiful. What has made it bad is not the act but one’s intent during the act. Those abusive rapists, control freaks, molesters made sex into a bad thing. I don’t believe it was intended or made to be bad when God created sex. People made it bad with their bad thoughts. I have no bad thoughts when I’m imagining making love to my bride while watching p*rn. So why isn’t The Law Of Attraction bringing it to me?

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  17. #17 Manifestation - Abundance
    December 19, 2008 pm31 8:00 am

    I want to solve a very important “mystery”. Someone asked if there is such technology to generate any cloth or food you want out of energy generation unit with abundant energy. Dearest souls of course there is.

    This brings up a lot of questions.

    Why do not all people on earth believe it exists?
    If they believed it exists are they ready to allow it to come in to their hands?
    Can they prevent it from coming into manifestation and to the hands of others?
    Does this have a karmic cost for them and others?

    1,2.They do not believe it exists because they are not ready for it and haven’t seen it. They want to live having the joy of finding stuff and inventing things of their own. This traps them in another time circle of another 26.000 years at least. Maybe a million or more years actually considering them starting from nothing without any assistance.
    Another thing to be considered here is that as technology advances it requires more and more awareness as soul comes in the center of utilizing it. In other words you need to be able to co exist with technology and not just use it when you need it, your environment has to be a part of you and you part of it. So again they will have to face at some point the call of the soul and self in order to reach a dimension in which they are allowed to create in more advanced ways. They will have to acquire patience morality and resolve fear and anxiety.

    Another point of view is the fear of these technologies been transformed into weapons or used as weapons. So, what happens is that for a soul that does not clearly see that is not the body and can have any body at anytime, the gift is perceived as a threat imposed by others. You can imagine what will be the reaction of that soul against everybody right after. The world collapses. Not only that but all the sense of external security is directly forcing the soul to leave the body due to not been able to handle the fear it has just come across. Who has this same technology, how is he using it? all sense of geography is lost, all sense of coordinations and all life’s work perhaps. And the center and source of this new dimension of living is absent, is something external still that others only have reached.

    3.They cannot prevent it, freewill is exercised and for those who are not trapped by these souls but bravely ask for their uplifment, karma is resolved as they have nothing to hide or regret for. This has the result of the technologies already been used by higher sources for them. This way everything they need in their life they get, although it may look as if they live a common life using money and common resources.

    4.It has a karmic cost of course and it will separate them totally according to their measurement of egos and transfer them to a planet that best matches it. An environment that corresponds to their intelligence.
    As this environment is transformed in abundance they can still be here for a while but it is clear illusion because everyone starts to get the truth and they cannot afford playing mental games in front of the truth.

    When we will be exhibiting in front of them our abundance what will they do? Take us to court because we do not work for them feeding them and allowing them to be our employers controlling our needs? They will implode upon their own selves or just get transfered to a place in which without being totally informed about what has happened will try to end their confusion.
    Should I personally worry about this? no.

    It is ridiculous and if they have even a little self esteem they should get at least a glimpse of all the negativity they had been feeding and hide in their shame.

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  18. #18 answer to Anonymous
    December 19, 2008 pm31 8:10 am

    Law of attraction brings the karmic lesson you need to go through and gets you to the point you are trying to reach. Are you trying to prove to yourself that imagination is as powerful as reality? That sex is a dimension of different qualities and freedoms? That during sex we may be having also astrally intercourse with different astral entities that uplift us? Perhaps easier than an incarnated entity that is focusing on the negative?
    Are some parts of you left on a higher dimension and trying to bring your energies there in this way or do you see through the idol of tvstar resemblance with the perfection of lightbody? Perhaps your astral body could also be interacting with the collective energy of the mind patterns of actors that are there in an effort to make everyone remember of the archetypes of tantra. It could be also that you are having astral union with your twin flame who is not incarnated at that moment. But the choises are always yours.

    Love and light

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  19. #19 answer to annoymous add
    December 19, 2008 pm31 9:26 am

    Sorry i forgot to answer why people see sex as bad.

    Human body has 7 chakras, consider 7 floors of higher and higher energy being developed. (*The highest you go the more dangerous you become in the eyes of those who live on the basis and do not want to evolve). Normally this energy goes down to the first chakra, groin. Call it gravity. It is much more complicated. And gets wasted. To lift the energy up takes a lot of effort and many lifetimes. You get a more and more updated body of energies.
    The reason they see sex as bad is because the cannot keep their body filled up with energy up to the crown chakra in order to merge their energies with something higher than their body.
    As a result they stay in survival consciousness, storing energy in order to work to survive, or trying to avoid it completely. Instead put efforts to reach the stomach or solar plexus that responds to property comprehension, little brighter brain with little expanded awareness of the environment and thoughts that refer to it.
    After solar plexus is the heart chakra, is the love of living. Being safe and true to your emotions, already something is changing you start believing in yourself beyond surviving and attaining material goods.
    Higher is the throat, the speaking of truth of the eternal life and existence that contradicts all theories. At this point you know your breath is eternal, is cosmic flow, it is not what brain perceives as air in lungs.
    Higher is the 3rd eye and seat of spiritual mastery, spiritual powers and realms beyond the physical that hold higher energies than these experienced on earth. There you become conscious master of your universal energies, you can “command” the energy of cosmos.
    Higher is the crown and as you move more and more up you reach the soul, you feel the soul is god and god is everything. Everything is creation.

    As you understand, people that live on 3rd eye level may develop a natural avoidance of those who live in the lower chakras that do not yet see the truth as it is. The highest of scientists will look to them like clowns it is true. Those who do not feel sexually visually, in all ways perfected as divine beings will be an obstacle to their consciousness that just desires to merge with what is, not complement on it. Now a key, if you are overflowing of energy in sex you do not waste energy, sex uplifts you to god. Gives you more life more bliss.

    People that live on throat chakra may be having an avoidance of their emotions as they see that they do not hold the entire truth but are still a battle of moving beyond the physical instincts not as a truly conscious being. These does not mean people of the higher chakras do not have emotions. But emotions are cleansed, they are not unstable, they are clear and divine. They fill you.

    As well as people of the heart level that may be avoiding those that try to defend and possess material power or even intellectual as these too are very close companions. Now the higher you go the lest duality plays an importance. People of the solar plexus level are finding themselves in disgust of the people that live on sexual level, and try to keep everything in order so that survival of the masses and theirs can be assured.
    Anxiety and anger is their main field of play as fulfillment comes from the heart. And heart requires courage not power enforcement on others.
    ~
    People that have their chakras open, if you put your hands on their bodies you will feel warm air coming out, or just air. Chakras may also have closed totally if the being has expanded beyond all universal energies and it will be radiant very clear. Once all karma, all universal energy that has been acquired over many lifetimes of materializing bodies is exhausted and has returned to creator through the universes one becomes god, merges with all.

    So apparently, each and everyone according to what level he/she is, is having a different energy vibration and understanding of sexuality and life.

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  20. #20 anonymous
    December 19, 2008 pm31 9:37 am

    Thanks for the answers, friend. So, what is your opinion. In the area of wanting to evolve and ascend so as to not have to live other lives, should we avoid sex? Let me know. Because I will. I’d do anything to avoid more pain and another life like this

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  21. #21 answers to anonymous 3
    December 19, 2008 pm31 11:25 am

    You need to go deeper. There is nothing wrong with sex. Do what makes you feel good. Try to open yourself up to other options also. Why should it be just this way? Everything is spiritual ultimately. What causes your pain? Why should it be there? There is no reason. Change this. Find that which proves that this pain is unnecessary. Challenge yourself and prove that there are other options and pain is an illusion. Try at least. It may also be that the computer if you work close to a computer is causing you to lose too much energy. You need to be able to generate more, yoga, deep breathing, meditation techniques in a clean environment/room is a way to do so. Reiki something else. A walk to nature also. Being close to positive people as well. Simple life but in positivity and nature. Art may be another way to understand deeper truths about your soul. Spiritual information also. Blueprints about sex, about the divine feminine, about beauty, about soul union, about immortality of soul and ascension of body with ease that you may have put aside. You are already taking care of it. Intellectual understanding that no-one is right also. That ultimately life is a continuum. There is no suffering unless you are missing some information or not accepting it.

    Thank you

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  22. #22 Answers2ANonoymous
    December 19, 2008 pm31 12:08 pm

    One thing that stood out was your neediness from others. Stop looking to the outside of yourself for your desires, the law of attraction is indeed working for you, but from your limitations you impose on it, you are working from the negative and looking to the outside of you to for that person to fullfill your desires, instead of looking to what is inside of you and being fullfilled. Also it is the energy you are creating is very low cos that is where you are, cos you are looking to the outside of you to be fixed, go inside of you. When you are healthy and whole and happy inside you will then see the manifestations you create and be able to create them from the whole, instead of the lack. Feel the energies from where you are currently creating you needs then change them to what you really like them to be, joy happiness love, leave out the neediness, feel in the heart what they are all about, you will see the difference from where you create things.

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  23. #23 1ofthegoodguys
    December 19, 2008 pm31 3:45 pm

    I read Jivan and Arc’s defense early in the postings on this board of the statement “disagreements have no place here”. Frankly, the are lame. Their response has a feel of a cult leader mentality. The whole “You must trust and believe otherwise you will reap the horrors of not believing” routine. We had it from the Catholic Church with this is a sin, if you go against us you will suffer eternal damnation. We get it from the Taliban with their obey and kill the infidels or else you will not get seven virgins in heaven. And we get it from many new age cult manipulating cons who say “If you question me then you reap bad karma on yourself”. Yes, God forbid we question the veracity of the channelers here. Or we might be creating bad vibrations and thus causing others and ourselves bad karma. And we will be forced to live terrible lives over and over again until we trust the truth. Give me a break. Folks, ALWAYS question. ALWAYS. You can trust and believe just fine, but don’t be gullible

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  24. #24 Arc
    December 19, 2008 pm31 4:00 pm

    Trust and believe what you like, your chakras and brainwave tell the truth. Opinions belong to history. Respect those who try to give you the techniques and dont confuse their teachings with what you think as truth or false. Karma works either you believe or not in it. Noone is keeping you behind, the techniques are there. Where are the results on your energies? No one tells you not to speak. They say that it doesn’t matter from the state of enlightenment what you speak because it has no power, it is low vibration. It comes from a seeker not one who has been through ascension and connection to the higher self.

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  25. #25 Arc
    December 19, 2008 pm31 4:10 pm

    I am available to anyone who wants a philosophical debate always…

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  26. #26 nirvikalpa
    December 19, 2008 pm31 7:34 pm

    What on earth do cults and religions have to do with chakras and the human body or soul? hahahah cults religions and sciences are the ones responsible for all the lack of knowing, soul knowing and experience of living, of human beings. Symbols, numbers, rules, regulations, codes, levels, encryptions, drugs, differences, concealers, acting on behalf of other things than their own soul, secrecy, personas, status, and endless arguments. What on earth have these things to do with CHAKRAS and S O U L ? What on earth have their definitions of life and consciousness have to do with Satya with nirvana with love?

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  27. #27 yuco
    December 19, 2008 pm31 11:58 pm

    As I understant in these messages MANY LIGHTWORKER ARE HAPPY IN THEIR LIFE.THEY CAN FIND A FOOD TO EAT-THAY HAVE JOB- THEY HAVE MONEY TO PAID THEIR LOAN-THEY MARRIED OR THAY HAVE GIRL FRIENDS TO SHARE THEIR LIFE (THEIR HAPPY AND BAD TIMES)THEY ARE IN GOOD HEALTY CONDITIONS.

    SO THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE WHEN GALACTIC FEDERATION WILL COME AND DO NOT CARE THEIR SLOW ACTION.

    BUT THEY DO NOT KNOW THERE ARE SOME LIGHT WORKERS:

    THEY DO NOT HAVE FOOD

    THEY DO NOT HAVE JOB

    THEY DO NOT HAVE MONEY

    THEY DO NOT HAVE FRIENDS

    THEY DO NOT HAVE ROMANCE

    THEY DO NOT KNOW HOW SEX IS GOOD(BECAUSE THEY NEVER CAN DO THAT)

    THESE LIGHT WORKERS PRAYING FOR SOME HELP OR PRAYING TO FAST DEATH.NOBODY HEAR THEM

    THEY ARE DOING MEDITATION EVERY DAY

    THEY ARE IMAGINE GOOD FUTURE EVERYDAY

    THEY JUST TRY TO GET BREATH

    THEY JUST TRY TO LIVE COUPLE DAYS WITHOUT PAIN BUT CAN NOT FIND PAINLESS DAY

    GALACTIC FEDERATION SAID THAT THEY WILL PROTECT LIGHT WORKERS FROM WORLD DISASTERS(RIGHT TIME AT RIGHT PLACE)

    THESE LIGHT WORKERS DO NOT WANT TO BE SURVIVE FROM NATURAL DISASTERS WHY THEY SHOULD WANT? CONTINUE TO LIVE WITHOUT FOOD-MONEY-HEALTY-FAMILY ROMANCE-FRIENDS ETC

    WHY I AND THEM WANT TO SURVIVE UNDER THESE CONDITIONS?MANY LIGHT WORKERS LOOKING TO FAST DEATH

    AND MANY OF YOU TALKING HERE:

    ABOUT SEX IS BAD OR GOOD?
    WHICH BAR SHOULD I GO WITH WHICH GIRL ?
    WHAY KIND OF HOUSE SHOULD I BUY?
    WHAT KIND OF NEW CAR SHOULD I BUY?

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  28. #28 Aena
    December 20, 2008 pm31 3:57 am

    Obviously many Folks are listening to the word enllightenment and relate it to some badly shaped spine guy with long hair that smokes pot all day, sorry for mentioning this. Selling crystals and fairy pictures in his little store they think he is the representative of galactic federation, not central one but one of the advanced beings that have come here to teach them freedom. This kind of society Thinks, Hello that it can reach the core of problems and ascend. Best of luck.

    Ah well yuco if you have health problems you can search few pages on the net about places where you can be healed by few masters, i dont want to mention names. The only way to locate them is by enter keywords such as miracle , paralysis healing , hatha , deep hypnosis, lord , theta, delta, master , sadly the potential of human nature needs to hold labels to be reachable to the mind of the masses. And thus gets attacked evertyday. Without them even having witnessed a healing they can judge and they can Manipulate others.
    Food is a health problem, job is a health problem. Shows you don’t have the technique to control hunger thirst, instinct, thought, intuition, you don’t accept things as they are and have no concept of how things really are. Thus you try to do them your own way, you violate nature with your version of made-up job which may not be what earth wants. When are you going to do something about it? Why is this somebody else’s problem?

    If people like you populate the planet and have no concept of what is to do after then these problems are the default state. If you have intelligence, look for the techniques that will erase them. Or you don’t believe that they exist?

    I mean for how long will this be going on? People talking for their problems and not taking responsibility for their body and mind? How difficult is this finally to do? Can you sit with yourself for a second and face the core of the issue? Are you about ending these issues once and for all? Are you willing to look for the techniques and answers? Or are you here to call for somebody else to do it for you? You don’t really think the aliens are in the mind state of humans do you? You don’t really think they just made huge spaceships to just grow people inside? Or that they have a habit doing it.

    I’m sorry that is not how nature evolves. You confuse darwinian theories with galactic federation of light.

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  29. #29 Robin.
    December 21, 2008 pm31 9:01 am

    HEY YUKO,

    GALACTIC FEDERATION OF LIGHT SAYS IN THE ABOVE CHANNELLING:

    “The answer is by envisioning exactly what you perceive the alternative to be from what you are now experiencing. By living that vision you create the circumstances that will enable it to manifest, and in that you are becoming successful.”

    DO YOU UNDERSTAND?

    CAN you understand?

    Will you understand?

    I hope so!

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  30. #30 Alison
    December 21, 2008 pm31 10:05 am

    Dearest Anonymous,

    I read your first post above this morning and have been thinking about you ever since. And, oh boy, I could write a book around these subjects… maybe I should!

    The first requirement of the Law Of Attraction (LOA) is GRATITUDE. Therefore, however life appears to you at the moment, you must begin by cultivating an Attitude of Gratitude. Be thankful for everything, start affirming things like “I am so happy and grateful now that I have a job and I can easily pay all my bills. I am so happy and grateful now that I have a comfortable home and a roof over my head. I am so happy and grateful now that I enjoy perfect health.” At first, you may find this a challenge but persevere.

    Following on from that, if you are not achieving your goal, the goal you have set is not big (expansive) enough. Your focus on sex/porn is far too narrow and I cannot think of a single woman on this planet who will willingly allow herself to be “attracted” into a life of sex slavery — Sorry if that offends but that is the message you are sending out into the universe or at least that is how it comes across to me as a woman. Sex is a bit like brushing your teeth, simply a necessary function of life; in and of itself, it will not bring you anything but instant physical gratification so get it in perspective now. As part of a loving romantic relationship, it can be the cream on the cake but the loving relationship is the foundation and without that, the building (sex) crumbles and scarily fast, bringing nothing but long-term misery. It’s your choice but I would stay away from the manufactured porn because you have no idea what sort of energies you are exposing your aura to when watching and if they are of an evil/negative nature, you are adding to the repulsion of your dream. Make up your own fantasies instead.

    Then, take some time to work out what you really want — do you want a wife, who is an equal partner in life? Do you want marriage/live together/ or live near each other for companionship say at weekends? Do you want children? Do you want your wife to work or do you want her to be free to stay at home to bring your children up and cook you nice meals to come home to? Do you want to change your job and/or find a way of working/running a business with your wife? I could go on but these questions are just to get your mental processes going? Also, spend time fantasizing about all the ways you will nurture and cherish this lovely lady — e.g. take her tea/coffee in bed every morning, bring her flowers regularly, watch the film of her choice at least once a week, take her out for dinner once month etc.

    When you have worked out what you want, then be grateful that you ALREADY have it and make sure you are ready for it. E.g. clear a space in your wardrobe for her clothes, buy a vase for all the flowers you are going to be buying for her, clean the bathroom so it’s welcoming for a lady, keep your sheets clean. Think about where you will take her for your honeymoon, what kind of engagement ring you will buy her, will she like your car — do you need to trade it in for one more becoming to a married man — etc. etc.

    If you follow these guidelines, you will get what you want in no time — you could also study books about manifestation and prosperity (same principles apply to love). It’s all there for you but I am afraid you have been scaring what you want away and possibly self-sabotaging due to some unconscious belief programmed into you in your youth. For this, go to http://www.youtube.com and search for videos on EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique) for self-esteem/relationships/love etc. You could also go to http://www.emofree.com, download the free manual and learn the basic principles of EFT and make up your own recipes.

    I sense there is a whole new world opening up to you — but one last thing has just come to mind — don’t jump on her until you are absolutely sure without a shadow of doubt that she wants you to. Study body language — does she cross her legs towards you/away from you? Does she stand with her back turned to you when you are with other people, as if she regards you as her (safe) protector, knight in armour? Does she lean towards you when you share a joke? Just a few examples which can give you some clues.

    I have written this in a hurry, of necessity so please forgive me if it seems harsh in any way. The good old fashioned ways are undoubtedly the most effective in the long run for a long and happy life together and sex was definitely the last thing on the dating agenda in those days so have fun, discovering yourself and just let her arrive in your life when she does. She will!!!!

    Oh… and remember, the universe works in strange and mysterious ways. Don’t bother looking for her. She will turn up when you are least expecting her. As ridiculous as it sounds, she could be an assistant in a shop, or she could be waiting at the dentist’s when you go for your annual check up or she could be at the neighbouring pump when you fill your car up — the possibilities are simply endless! But one thing is for sure, she is out there waiting for you, lil ol’ you!

    May your God bless you with total and complete fulfilment of you dreams!

    Alison

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  31. #31 canadian serf
    December 21, 2008 pm31 10:06 am

    I used to believe in the federation and hoped for a first contact someday but since the “aliens” say that obama is a good person ive lost all my faith in the readings… Obama is a puppet president and is no better than Bush! Wise up people! Anyone with half a brain knows it,dont fall for this . U want freedom then do it yourself like the greeks are trying to do as we speak! As long as the aliens endorse Obama I will think they are evil!

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  32. #32 Alison
    December 21, 2008 pm31 10:11 am

    Dearest Anonymous,

    I read your first post above this morning and have been thinking about you ever since. And, oh boy, I could write a book around these subjects… maybe I should!

    The first requirement of the Law Of Attraction (LOA) is GRATITUDE. Therefore, however life appears to you at the moment, you must begin by cultivating an Attitude of Gratitude. Be thankful for everything, start affirming things like “I am so happy and grateful now that I have a job and I can easily pay all my bills. I am so happy and grateful now that I have a comfortable home and a roof over my head. I am so happy and grateful now that I enjoy perfect health.” At first, you may find this a challenge but persevere because by practising this attitude, you put yourself in the creative flow of universal energy to be, do or have anything you want.

    Following on from that, if you are not achieving your goal, the goal you have set is not big (expansive) enough. Your focus on sex is far too narrow and I cannot think of a single woman on this planet who will willingly allow herself to be “attracted” into a life of sex slavery — Sorry if that offends but that is the message you are sending out into the universe or at least that is how it comes across to me as a woman. Sex is a bit like brushing your teeth, just a necessary function of life; in and of itself, it will not bring you anything but instant physical gratification so get it in perspective now. As part of a loving romantic relationship, it can be the cream on the cake but the loving relationship is the foundation and without that, the building (sex) crumbles and scarily fast, bringing nothing but long-term misery. It’s your choice but I would stay away from the manufactured **** because you have no idea what sort of energies you are exposing your aura to when watching and if they are of an evil/negative nature, you are adding to the repulsion of your dream. Make up your own fantasies instead.

    Then, take some time to work out what you really want — do you want a wife, who is an equal partner in life? Do you want marriage/live together/ or live near each other for companionship say at weekends? Do you want children? Do you want your wife to work or do you want her to be free to stay at home to bring your children up and cook you nice meals to come home to? Do you want to change your job and/or find a way of working/running a business with your wife? I could go on but these questions are just to get your mental processes going? Also, spend time fantasizing about all the ways you will nurture and cherish this lovely lady — e.g. take her tea/coffee in bed every morning, bring her flowers regularly, watch the film of her choice at least once a week, take her out for dinner once month etc.

    When you have worked out what you want, then be grateful that you ALREADY have it and make sure you are ready for it. E.g. clear a space in your wardrobe for her clothes, buy a vase for all the flowers you are going to be buying for her, clean the bathroom so it’s welcoming for a lady, keep your sheets clean. Think about where you will take her for your honeymoon, what kind of engagement ring you will buy her, will she like your car — do you need to trade it in for one more becoming to a married man — etc. etc.

    If you follow these guidelines, you will get what you want — you could also study books about manifestation and prosperity (same principles apply to love). It’s all there for you but I am afraid you have been scaring what you want away and possibly self-sabotaging due to some unconscious belief programmed into you in your youth. For this, go to http://www.youtube.com and search for videos on EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique) for self-esteem/relationships/love etc. You could also go to http://www.emofree.com, download the free manual and learn the basic principles of EFT and make up your own recipes.

    I sense there is a whole new world opening up to you — but one last thing has just come to mind — don’t jump on her until you are absolutely sure without a shadow of doubt that she wants you to. Study body language — does she cross her legs towards you/away from you? Does she stand with her back turned to you when you are with other people, as if she regards you as her (safe) protector, knight in armour? Does she lean towards you when you share a joke? Just a few examples which can give you some clues.

    I have written this in a hurry, of necessity so please forgive me if it seems harsh in any way. The good old fashioned ways are undoubtedly the most effective in the long run for a long and happy life together and sex was definitely the last thing on the dating agenda in those days so have fun, discovering yourself and just let her arrive in your life when she does. She will!!!!

    Oh… and remember, the universe works in strange and mysterious ways. Don’t bother looking for her. She will turn up when you are least expecting her. As ridiculous as it sounds, she could be an assistant in a shop, or she could be waiting at the dentist’s when you go for your annual check up or she could be at the neighbouring pump when you fill your car up — the possibilities are simply endless! But one thing is for sure, she is out there waiting for you, lil ol’ you!

    May your God bless you with total and complete fulfilment of you dreams!

    Alison

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  33. #33 Robin.
    December 21, 2008 pm31 10:13 pm

    We’ve all just had 8 years or more of Bush.. don’t you think it reasonable to allow Obama at least a year as President before writing him off as no better than Bush? I mean they guy hasn’t even taken office yet!!

    Time will tell!

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  34. #34 yuco
    December 22, 2008 pm31 3:04 am

    Hey robin oneday will come -you will make same mistake like me and born with seals and that time nothing will not work for you to .That time you will understant me.And never laugh again to anothers

    DO YOU UNDERSTAND?

    CAN you understand?

    Will you understand?

    I hope so!

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  35. #35 hah
    December 22, 2008 pm31 3:40 am

    somebody remove his implants. seriously. or teach him his soul is descending not ascending. goes down to become strong.

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  36. #36 Robin.
    December 22, 2008 pm31 7:15 am

    But YUKO.. maybe it wasn’t a MISTAKE.. maybe you CHOSE to do that.
    Maybe I have ALREADY done that?
    I am certainly NOT laughing.. crying maybe?

    DO YOU UNDERSTAND?

    CAN you understand?

    Will you understand?

    I hope so!

    In Light.

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  37. #37 Hotmailboy
    December 22, 2008 pm31 11:28 am

    I like Cheese.

    DO YOU UNDERSTAND?

    CAN you understand?

    Will you understand?

    I hope so!

    In Light.

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  38. #38 eddy biscetti
    December 22, 2008 pm31 12:14 pm

    i just wanted people to know that if they are having trouble believing these channeling messages all you have to do is use your emotions as a guide . if it doesnt feel true than it might not be if it does than it probably is.
    one thing i know is that we are not being told anything new we are simply awakening to the fact of what has been there all along . when i look at my past i remember every time a message of love or oneness was staring me in the face and i wasnt aware enough to understand it . whats different now is our perception is being opened up to what and who we really are and when you see it and understand it you dont need to know wether its true or not because its the most natural thing youve ever felt.

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  39. #39 Smithe
    December 22, 2008 pm31 4:45 pm

    To Atmos:

    Question. Explain to me, the war before the Sirius home was able to join the Pleiadians an coming to Earth. I remember something about not coming to your world, due to the fact of this war. Memory doesn’t lie, something with Greys. I know your people were coming to Earth, until the incursions took place. I do know there were volunteers coming afterwards. After the Fall, before the light I was already here. Always one of the many, be of light.

    May your hammer flow with your creation. Smithe

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