Message from SaLuSa on 12/5/2008 by Mike Quinsey
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SaLuSa 05-December-2008
As the festive mood overcomes many of your problems, it is yet another energy that is birthed in the Light. Together with the sense of a new pathway having been opened by the President Elect, it is forging ahead in anticipation of an exciting and positive New Year. These energies will pull people through what would otherwise be a period causing much concern over their financial situations. The bailouts are preventing an absolute collapse and will lay down the foundation of a new system, and it shall be brought into being and shaped to carry out its role when the abundance program is released. This is an example of how the beneficial changes can be introduced, on the back of situations that are man-made.
Much happens behind the scenes and although we are not there as a physical presence, through our influence we move your energies into the right direction. There are so many willing workers who dedicate themselves to helping others, but they need more support than they are currently getting. Until we can openly work with you that remains a problem, but we already have plans that will overcome it. Your freewill is always in the back of our minds, as it is most important that you are seen to follow your own intuition. However, you have called for our help and that allows us to have an input into your lives. You are on the very edge of seeing the first major events of change manifesting, and you will not have to wait much longer.
We can walk side by side with you and understand the experiences that you have through being in duality. We have often described it as a game although it can have serious consequences for you, and if you can see it in the same light it will be easier to handle. Remember that as always it is about gaining spiritual experience through the understanding of Spirit and matter. Your challenge is to bring that understanding into your life, and make spiritual progress thereby lifting up your vibrations. It can take you as far as knowing that everything is part of the Oneness of all life, and as such is to be respected and treated with equality.
You will make mistakes in the course of your life and that is how you learn, but from a spiritual perspective you will never be held to account for them. What you refer to as Karma is self imposed at such times as you review each lifetime and you decide how to deal with them. On Earth you have your own laws without which you would have anarchy, even so they are sometimes more severe than necessary. In a truly spiritual society you would not for example take a persons life as punishment, and it would be far better for them to live for a time in their own energy and understand what brought it about. Also the idea that you can lock someone up and “throw away the key” is not going to rehabilitate them. It may seem that some criminals are beyond help, and certainly some will defy any such attempts to show them the error of their ways. However, kindness and love for the inner soul of such persons will always bring a response, if only in the long term. Prisons that hand out brutal treatment are simply adding to the hatred and lack of faith in justice.
We know that miscreants cause so much mayhem in your societies, and the answers lie in a spiritual education that is based on love and respect for all other forms of life. That is way off at the moment, but you will achieve great strides in this direction before the final days of this cycle. Some souls are unready for such far-reaching changes, and others simply refuse to move on unprepared to put the effort in their lives that would achieve it. With so much Light being beamed to Earth there is every opportunity for people to awaken, but if they choose to ignore it they set up their own path away from it. This is why there will be an inevitable division amongst you, as Ascension is not a gift as such to all of you, but an opportunity to move onto a new path if you would but make the effort and prepare yourselves. By the end of this cycle, not one single soul will be able to claim that they never had a chance to join Ascension.
You have come a very long way from the days of the sinking of Atlantis. You have faced the same decisions and challenges, but this time sufficient numbers have risen up into the Light. That has saved you from destroying yourselves again, although you have passed through many low points when you were near to annihilation. The Earth could also have been destroyed, and that would have set your evolution back a long way. Not many of you are aware of such facts, but in course of time you shall have the truth placed before you. It is important that you understand how you become absorbed by the dark energies, and such knowledge will serve you well in the future. All the experience you have ever had is held in your subconsciousness, which you can draw upon when necessary.
There is of course a positive side to being able to recall past events in your subconsciousness, as it will take you back to your existence in the higher realms. These were times of great peace and happiness before the shadow of darkness crossed your path. You were Light Beings with such a great ability to love all life, and the Oneness was as if you were cocooned inside it. You loved the Creator, and took up the challenge of duality without hesitation knowing that you would safely return to the Light. That time has arrived for many of you, and we know that you feel within your rising consciousness the urge to lift up out of the darkness that has held you back.
I am SaLuSa from Sirius, and together we shall soon move on and return to the lighted realms, but first it is the task of the Galactic Federation members to ensure you are lifted up into the higher vibrations ready for Ascension. At the same time we also help prepare Mother Earth, and remove all vestiges of the damage brought about by your demands upon her. You are to ascend as One and that will fulfil the Creator’s decree for the end of this cycle of duality. We can therefore say with absolute certainty, that regardless of the obstacles placed in our way the tasks will be totally fulfilled. You are on the crest of a wave of Light, that shall propel you onto the path of Ascension for once and for all. Be prepared and lift yourselves into the Light and Love forever.
Thank you SaLuSa
Mike Quinsey.




December 5, 2008 pm31 2:57 pm
Ooohhh Yeah!!!
Let’s Surf the Wave!!
On Holographic Surfboards?
One Love~Much Light.
December 5, 2008 pm31 3:01 pm
I want to ascend. What do I have to do to get ready?
December 5, 2008 pm31 3:16 pm
I can’t wait but again what happens to those who don’t wish to ascend if we all ascend with Mother Earth together. Also I am an Australian; is there any info on my country?
Ann
December 5, 2008 pm31 4:17 pm
All messages from GFL maintain that the new president elect will bring positives things…I was wondering
what can be said about northen counterpart MR Harper who was able to shut down the parliament t
o save his own job who usually acts on the interest of corporations trying make North America Union
a reality without parliamentary debate.
However, I am still trying to remain positive because it makes you feel better and it is contagious
December 5, 2008 pm31 5:56 pm
to ann mccarthy:
even though there is no reference to australia, the new paradigm will affect all of earth. the main reason is because most of the negative (dark forces) are in the united states, mainly in washington dc.
however, there is one website you may find interesting:
blossomgoodchild.com.
ms goodchild lives in the gold coast of australia and she is in contact with pleiadians as well as another individual. his name is james gilliland. his web address is: eceti.org. you can sign up for free email from james.
be well.
apache
December 5, 2008 pm31 6:08 pm
to ann mccarthy
correction: ms goodchild lives in the sunshine coast. apology.
addendum: anther website for more information/channelings is paoweb.com. look up sheldan nidle updates.
December 5, 2008 pm31 7:14 pm
To Michael. I send my personal Blessings to you !!! I have read some of your previous comments on here,and have been tempted to address your comments as they appear to be based on uncertanty & clouded in fear,doubt and insecurity. Now I dont profess to have all the answers to your particular situation and position,I can only pass on what I Have learned & know,and I’m no expert,but as regards your particular question posted above,then my personal advice to you is…You dont have to do anything !! You cant force this issue;it’s a natural,preordained event,that is,and has been planned for millennia by your Creator & other high beings and most likely yourself. You are actually here in service to that cause,although in your confusion and doubt you may have forgot,or may not realise yet.
Michael,do not worry !,there is a divine plan to all of this and you. You just need to relax and know you are safe in this process,that you really dont need to do anything to gain or assure your place in the event of ascension. It’s not something you have to buy tickets for,or perform a certain,specific thing to attain entry,it’s your birthright and choice,when the time arrives. Your seat is already reserved !! Just be calm and assured about it;nothing can harm you,but that which you imagine and believe. There are many,unseen great forces at work here in all of this,for your benefit and enlightenment. Just relax,and make it your purpose to learn all you can about yourself,and what you trully are beyond the illusions that surround you;It may well surprise yoy !! try to learn and understand all you can about this whole field of knowledge thats absolutely vast and intrigueing. Understand the law of attraction friend. What you think about expands. Like attracts like. If you keep thinking doubtful and negative thoughts,then that is the energy and experiences you will draw & attract into your life. A fundamental cosmic law.
I suggest for reaffirment,and to remind you of what you really are,and not what your distorted,fearful thoughts & ego trick you into believing you are,you go on Youtube.com and key in Deepak Chopra Magical Mind,Magical Body. All your answers are out there somewhere Michael,even inside of you. All you have to do is look,ask,learn,remind yourself and remember !! You already have all the answers and all you need right there within you !! Relax friend,be not in fear,and allow the energy to flow through you !! You are not,niether is this whole event a chance,accidental occurance. An absolute master plan !! I heard or read somewhere,and I cant remember exactly how it was phrased,but the crux of the message went somrthing like this….The greatest fear of all,is the fear of knowing and understanding who and what we really are. It’s all just a game Michael,as real as it may seem and feel. There are plenty of seats on the Bus when it arrives Michael,enough for everyone who ‘chooses’ to take the ride,so quit fretting,try to enjoy the wait;you already have a reserved seat !!
Ann Mc Carthy….Again,Youtube.com Key in search for Teachings of the Pleiadians. Lectures/teachings by an Australian guy(or maybe not!!) in Australia,to Australians. Excellent stuff here !! Hope you enjoy !!
Josephine….Youtube.com Search Nesara updates 2008. Parts 1 & 2 November 18th and November 29th. I think your answers and a few more besides might be there ??!!
December 5, 2008 pm31 8:05 pm
Thanks Andy. I’m going to punch in Deepak Chopra Magical Mind Body into Youtube right now.
December 5, 2008 pm31 9:43 pm
The Kingdom is established.
Make sure to read the “Consciousness Gurus” message.
Here is the link:
http://www.marques.co.za/duke/guru.htm
December 5, 2008 pm31 10:47 pm
Michael, please remember to trust that a benevolent force guides and watches over ALL of us!
December 5, 2008 pm31 11:32 pm
Dear michael you was write as below
Michael
05|Dec|2008 2
I want to ascend. What do I have to do to get ready?
you do not have to do anythink.And you can not do anything.Just have to wait end of schedule of light workers slave life in this dark planet.Because before you born in this world you accept this pain.But system trick you they was never said it will be hard as this
December 6, 2008 pm31 12:37 am
I too want to let Michael know that just wanting to ascend and keeping that in mind….staying positive and being of help to others will help you…..in other words….be light and you will become light…..with time your vibrations will rise and when the time comes you will know who you are and where you are going
I know it all seems so….easy, but I too wanted to get ready and was told the same thing
Find and read all that you can about this time in our evolution and help to spread the light among others around you and this in turn will help us all. I’m not doing anything in particular as my mission is not clear to me yet but I have always somehow known that I was here this lifetime for a reason…..just realizing now that it was to help others when the time came for ascension, that I would step up to the plate and do my best to help others to be light and bring our vibrations on Earth higher so as to return to ourselves that we knew before coming here to live this life of duality. This life or lives, was meant for us to learn through….and now it’ll be time to go back….
December 6, 2008 pm31 3:57 am
ANDY B. Yes.. your great advice and ‘quote’:
‘The greatest fear of all, is the fear of knowing and understanding who and what we really are.’
Ring very true!
We have been encouraged and programed by our controllers fro many ages, to EXTERNALISE our awareness. We have been ‘shown’, contitioned and taught that everything good is OUTSIDE of us.. all our gratification ‘must’ come from there. TV, shopping, sexual & ‘love’ imagery, money, ‘religion’ etc etc!
The reason for this is that ‘they’ too have this as a ‘greatest fear’, that if we ever find out that the real goodies lie within us, rather than on the tapestsry that has been created by them, for us, on the external, then ‘their game’ is OVER!
The Brightest Lights are within!
December 6, 2008 pm31 5:24 am
Spot on Robin,well put !!
Some really good comments and issues being raised here at the moment. Appears that more and more of us H-U-MANS are gradually awakening to the fact and truth of what we trully are,and throwing off the blindfolds,deceptions and shackles placed upon us for eons. like Robin explains above,the awareness is begining to grow and expand exponentially the snowball effect,or 100th monkey effect,a growing mass concious awareness,which as always been what the Dark have feared,that if enough of us awaken to the truth of whats really been going on in thier clever,intricately designed game and agenda of thiers,and who and what we really are as individuals,then thier game is up !! As long as they were able to keep us in ignorance,doubt and fear,they held the power and control over us. Spread the word People,they’re losing the game,in fact they’ve already lost !!! We know who they are,what they’re upto and have been upto in the past to enslave us. We can now see thier HAND,to use a card game term,but they cant comprehend ours and we’re calling thier bluff. We are as individuals,as well as groups and nations,begining to awaken like a great Titan,rising up in ever greater numbers,as one mass union,to claim our birthrights,our soveriegnties and ‘OUR’ planet back. It is not the unknown we shoul fear,but the known !! The systems employed on this Planet,beit Religion,Government or whatever,have never,or will never work for our individual or joint benefits as a global race;Deliberately,cleverly designed to keep us separate and divided as people,races and nations against each other,and from turning our attentions to the real culprits,creators and instigators of all the pain,confusion and troubles on this beautiful planet we reside upon on. They are specifically designed to benefit and empower the few,who believe they have the right to dominate,rule and control us whatever way THEY see fit,but no longer. Enough is enough !! We have been fooled for long enough already. Great challenges,changes and times are ahead of us all;It’s a time to prepare and enlighten ourselves as well as others to this fact !! It is ‘WE’ who hold the power to determine our own futures and destinies,as individuals and as nations and the HUMAN species in general. The Old ways will not,have not,or never will fulfill our needs and purpose as a combined peoples. The answers,solutions and fulfillment we all seek,wont ever come from blindly handing over our power,will and personal authority to another to solve all our problems and issues for us. This is how the Dark ones have been allowed to gain such power,control and dominance over us. We have to become responsible for and to ourselves and others,and stop believing the lies and deceptions that are fed us daily. If we dont,then we can only expect much of the same & who wants that??!!
Onwards and upwards as the saying goes !! Let your inner lights and energies emanate out to others and into the greater whole conciousness,and be not afraid to be and express who and what you trully are and feel !! Great things await us all;It’s time to get ready !!
Blessings to all !!
December 6, 2008 pm31 6:07 am
Andy ‘s remarks were on the button.
I have been reading the Mike Quinsey channels from SaLuSa, Ag-agria, Diane, Ela, et al for awhile now and one theme underpins their messages.
The 24K year cycle is ending on 21/12/2012- Piscean Age – the Aquarian Age will start on 22/12/2012, the transition from one to the other is seamless as it would be in terms of time. These dear loving souls that overlight us, so to say, are encouraging us to increase our conscious frequency vibration from say 500 hertz, our conscious awake earthly scenes to say, 2,500 hertz that is about 5th dimension frequency. It is at this latter frequency that we will exist here on earth in a balanced state. We are all being encouraged to use the tools that we have learnt to increase our vibrations. We are also told that if any of us do not resonate with this, all we need to do is no-thing except keep our hearts and minds open and our consciousness will rise in the course of our personal Divine plan. No need for anxiety, no need for fear of not getting on the train, no need for desperation etc, just try and live normally be be yourself. The only difference is the pace of frequency increase, as long as one arrives sometime, no problem.
It is our beloved St Germain who is point for all this Divine activity, this is guarantee of success enough!!
I read an Australian brother needed to know if they were about to be forgotten in the outback!! Well he will know that we had to burn a few cricket stumps awhile back at Lords cricket ground to encourage them to rise from the cricket ashes!! I guess somehow they will be looked after.!
With light
Peter
December 6, 2008 pm31 7:41 am
To Peter Wenban…Very eloquently explained Peter !! To you and all who are interested. If you go into Youtube.com key in Solfeggio Frequencies,you’ll come across an amazing place,of a whole range of sound frequencies rjght across the range fom low 174Hz upto 963Hz,with light and visual effects also,for all manner of purposes from healing,DNA activation and repair,meditations,balance,intuition and a host of other uses and possibilities. Very interesting and useful !! Also look out for the Indian/Vedic mantras & empowering/healing chants under the name of ‘HU’,as in HU-MAN. Proposed to be a highly spiritual word or sound of Universal power and energy,or God frequency.
In respect of and relevance to,and as an addition to my previous comments posted here,I would just like to add some particular statements fron the Film the MATRIX,which I feel emhasise my point exactly,and far more accurate than I could express.
NEO………What is happening to me ?
TRINITY….The answer is out there Neo. It’s the question that drives us,it’s the question that brought you here.
NEO…………..What is the Matrix ?
MORPHEUS….The Matrix,is the World that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.
Unfortunately,no one can be told what the Matrix is,you have to see it for yourselves.
NEO..(End of movie)… I know you’re out there,I can feel you now. I know that you’re afraid;You’re afraid of us;You’re afraid of change. I dont know the future; I did’nt come here to tell you how this is going to end,I came here to tell you how it’s going to begin. I’m going to hang up this phone,and then I’m going to show these people what you dont want them to see. I’m going to show them a World without you. A World without rules and controls,without borders or boundries. A World where anything is possible. Where we go from there,is a choice I’ll leave to you.
December 6, 2008 pm31 8:21 am
Strawberry—What a sweet and light-filled heart you share with all of us. To all of you, thank you for your comments. The comment page continues to evolve each and everyday. We have some very wise, humble, and brilliantly light-filled beings showing up here from all over the planet to honor us with their wisdom. My heartfelt thanks to all of you. Michael and Yuco I love you both. We are all in this divine timing together. Blessings to ALL of you.For those of you who might not know about it rysa5 is an awesome and very uplifting website. When you get there type in Indigo Revolution in the search box—then select Fifth Night of Indigo Revolution and ENJOY!!!!!!!!!!!
December 6, 2008 pm31 9:48 am
To ROBIN,and whoever else may be interested !! I meant to post it with my last comments,but had to go somewhere suddenly on the spare of the moment,so did’nt have time then,but here it is. I posted in an earlier input,about a certain website I came across some time ago,that showed the plan & positions of the Galactic Federation Fleets poised around our planet and further beyond. I could’nt quite remember at the time where I had seen it,but since I’ve found it again. Like I say,if your at all interested,the site is http://www.luisprada.com Brother Veritas website,Galactic Federation Ships. Extremely interesting article !!
Hope it’s useful and you enjoy !!
December 6, 2008 pm31 10:42 am
OOPS !,almost forgot. STRAWBERRY,lovely and eloquently made comment above !! As to not being aware of your mission and purpose yet in this event. By your comments,you answered your own uncertainty and question. This,and what you explained in your posting is your mission and purpose !! To learn and know yourself and what this whole thing is about,like finding the puzzle pieces to your own life mystery,and then to pass on what you’ve learned and understand to others,to help,aid or guide,so that they might also find thier own puzzle pieces to thier life mysteries,and enlightenment. And so it goes,round and round and back and forth. From the source back to the source. Dont underestimate what you do,no matter how small and insignificant it may seem. It’s a divine and honourable purpose !! If we all could help just one more Soul, who might be confused and lost in all of this confusion,to find the right track again,or guide them to a specific answer to enlighten thier journey,then we have done a fantastic deed have we not ??!! Is’nt what ultimately this is all about. Dissolving all the separations,divisions and chaos created between us as an entire Human race,and Coming together in a united unity and cause,not only to save ourselves,but our species and race in general and our home planet,but also to evolve and move forward as an entire Human race and species,into the greater,wider Galactic,Universal community and family. I personally believe that,this is our true cause and purpose at this time,and that in itself is a worthy,just and Divine purpose in and of itself !! What greater cause and purpose could there be ??!!
December 6, 2008 pm31 11:22 am
Nicely put @ 19, AndyB. I look 4ward to checking the GF positioning site!
We are destined to be co-creators with The Creator.
This is why everything we learn here is SO important.. because when it DOES become our turn to create worlds.. and there are already several ‘waiting’ for us, we will be making very sure that none of them EVER have to ‘go through’ what we’ve just spent Eons gourselves, going through!
Thus our unique position at the moment regarding the Universal Evolution.
We have the potential to take the whole of Evolution UP WITH us!
Many are watching.. and many are smiling also!
December 6, 2008 pm31 11:44 am
Had a look around there ANDY B but couldn’t find the page to which you refer.. but did find this. John the Baptist’s words:
“The brother of Light senses the Spirit of God within himself and has made a commitment to follow it and be one with it, similar to a marriage relationship. If he actively seeks a sign outside of himself for his main source of guidance, this causes a shift of attention away from the Spirit. So his ‘God’ becomes a false God outside of himself and the inner God is ignored and betrayed. He has committed adultery against his only true source of guidance, which places a black wall between his personality self and the God within.”
Ooh!
Old fashioned language yes.. but yet more wieght to the ‘Answers being inside.. and the UFO’s being OUTside’ kind of discussions we’ve been following of late, I thought?
Mega-Light!
December 6, 2008 pm31 2:09 pm
Michael,
We will ascend when we are ready and the timing will be perfect as part of the Divine Plan.
Some things I’ve been doing to accelerate connecting to the 4th & 5th dimensions:
the reconnection, reconnective healing, lightarian programs, Josh Stone’s ascension meditations, kundali reiki, channeling to Arcturians/Sirians and Ascended Masters and Angels.
These are just some ideas to reach out and touch other dimensions. There’s much more than this and this is in now way an all-inclusive list.
Everyone is right in their own path and all paths lead to the source. It is only a matter of time for all of us.
December 6, 2008 pm31 2:19 pm
I meant kundalini reiki, you can also work with light orbs and angelic spheres to transfer energy across the world
Theres much more than this out there. Only you know your path, and the guidance is found in your heart.
December 6, 2008 pm31 2:54 pm
Hi Robin, Had’nt seen that one on the site,but the sheer amount of info on there and this whole issue in general is just so vast,it would take a lifetime to see and absorb it all. A literal universe of knowledge & wisdom on here !! Thanks for bringing it to my attention !! Very profound words !! As regards your comment about not finding the particular article I mentioned,I had it stored in my favourites files,and cant remember how I got to or found it. Like Alex Collier says in one of his lectures,about things having a mind of there own & such,but I did a search on the site for the particular article,and realised it’s not blatantly obvious,or immediately in view,and after a bit of exploring I found it. This is how or where…www.luisprada.com It’s a dual language site,so click on English. Look down menu on left of page for STAR NATIONS,and click on that. On new page,again look down menu on left,8th item down titled GALACTIC FEDERATION FLEETS & thats the article. Hope you enjoy !!
Strange thing is,while looking in my favourite files regarding this article,I came across some other saved articles from a place that I had’nt visited for some time,but an absolute Goldmine of various interrelated,corresponding,mind-blowing information on an absolute abundance host of stuff. For anyone who reads this,and especially PETER WENBAN,because the content seems to be so relevant and linked to his earlier posting here,then here is the website http://www.karinya.com or for direct aquisition of the particular articles I refer to here http://www.karinya.com/messageIHC.htm…or…http://www.karinya.com/matthew67.htm
Another strange phenomina that has occured in the last couple of days,is that while I’ve been reading these messages & comments here,and writing some,a certain song,from a certain artist/musician,that was a real favourite of mine back in the early & mid eighties,kept,and keeps coming into my head for no apparent reason it seemed at first,and I cant explain why. It was only when it kept reoccuring,and I started to question and become aware of why this particular song kept coming into my mind after not hearing it for many years,did the penny drop (so to speak) If some of you are,or even are not aware of this particular artist,then I type the Title & Lyric’s to the song below. I also,just did a search on Youtube.com and discovered the original video and soundtrack is on there. I’ll post the link along with the Lyric’s,but check it out and see what you think/feel about whats said in the message given therein,and how relevant it is to everything around this subject in general,and what it’s all trully about !!
It’s amazing,wierd and wonderful how when you’re in mind and thought about this whole subject,how the inner voice and silent whispers of your inner,intuitive spirit self,promt your mind and imagination with all manner of connected knowledge,and how everything begins to start to link,combine and integrate together into one body of knowledge,and all separation begins to dissapate.
Here’s the Artist/song/lyric’s,hope you enjoy !! Especially MICHAEL !!! The Creator,Planet Earth and Us.
Artist………..Howard Jones.
Song title…..Hide and seek.
There was a time when there was nothing at all,nothing at all,just a distant hum.
There was a being and he lived on his own,he had no one to talk to,and nothing to do.
He drew up the plans,learned to work with his hands,A million years passed by,and his work was done.
And his words were these.
Hope you find it in everything,everything that you see;
Hope you find it in everything,everything that you see;
Hope you find it;Hope you find it;
Hope you find me in you.
So she had built her elaborate home,with its up’s and its downs,its rain and its sun.
She decided that her work it was done,time to have fun,and found a game to play.
Then as part of the game,she completely forgot where she’d hidden herself;
And she spent the rest of her time,just trying to find the parts.
Hope you find it in everything,everything that you see;
Hope you find it in everything,everything that you see;
Hope you find it;Hope you find it;
Hope you find me in you.
There was a time when there was nothing at all,nothing at all,just a distant hum………..
The youtube link to the song is Howard Jones Hide and Seek Rare Music Video.
Again,I hope you all enjoy and find some inspiration & enlightenment in the words and music therein.
Blessings to all !!!
December 6, 2008 pm31 3:30 pm
Oh yes,as a PS to my last comment,I forgot to add,that if you do watch the video/song above,then keep your eyes peeled. Notice toward the end of the song,in the images within the video image,on the right hand bottom corner of the main screen,look for the UFO !!!!
December 7, 2008 pm31 8:32 am
Sorry !,correction to above….Bottom left hand corner !!
December 7, 2008 pm31 9:43 am
To Anne McCarthy:
In the time of ascension there will be three paths that people will follow! One is the path into the positive fourth density, where light and love are your polarities. Another is a negative fourth density which is not a very pleasant place and you have to find your wy towards the light once more but it’s going to be very difficult because you won’t see much light in that realm. And finally there is a middle place that is where al the lukewarms are headed. This place is the same old positive/negative earth that we live on now. So you have a choice whether to live a positive life and go to 4th density positive, live a negative life and go to fourth density negative, or live a lukewarm life and stay in the lukewarm place we’re already in!
With love and light,
Awaken08
December 7, 2008 pm31 11:20 am
Hhmmm.. AWAKEN08.. that all sounds a bit too like ‘Heaven for the Good guys, Hell for the Bad guys and Purgatory for the inbetweenees’ to me!
Are we not destined for 5D (and above) .. and not 4D anyway?
4D is 3D minus ‘time’.
5D is a High frequency Light Matrix of ‘Now’.
We can ALL access the latter.. by choice.
3D & 4D will continue to exist for those who choose to continue to experience them.. perhaps on other suitable worlds than this one.
UP!
December 7, 2008 pm31 4:20 pm
Somebody listen to the Rock group in the States, called Disturbed.? Tell me if they are talking about the awakening to sight, and the events to come.
December 7, 2008 pm31 4:25 pm
By any means, look on You Tube for Disturbed.
December 7, 2008 pm31 5:16 pm
Robin,I totally agree with your last posting !!
To MICHAEL,or whoever else may be interested !!… I was going to post this for you earlier,but this is the first opportunity I got due to other commitments. Hope it’s helpful & useful to your understanding !!
http://www.ashtarcommand.net/profiles/blogs/the-new-earth-i
December 7, 2008 pm31 9:29 pm
I see a lot of confusion and misuse of the terms “Density” and “Dimension”. There are 8 Density levels, but each can have many (infinite?) dimensions within it. For instance, Earth is currently in the third density (3D) but there are many dimensions/realms within it, some at lower frequencies than us and some at higher frequencies.
Here is a brief description of the Density Levels:
1st Density – Begin cycle of awareness. Planet formation. Fire, air, earth, and water.
2nd Density – Growth. Higher plant and animal life.
3rd Density – Self-awareness. Self-aware intelligent life.
4th Density – Love or understanding. Higher self learns compassion and understanding.
5th Density – Light or wisdom. Social memory complexes learn wisdom.
6th Density – Light/love, Love/light or unity. Begin preparations toward unity.
7th Density – Gateway cycle. Unknowable and imcomprehensible even to 6th Density.
8th Density – One. Unity, harmony, one.
These Densities represent a path from “creation” to a return to the Creator, “One”. Earth has gone through the first 3 Densities, and is preparing for 4th. We (people) are also at 3D going for 4D. These things happen together, the planet and the intelligent (sic) life. There will be no 3D humans here once the shift is complete.
Awaken08 is mostly correct in that our choice will be 4D positive or negative, or another round of 3D negative. I wouldn’t call having to stay behind and go instead to another situation like 3D Earth a “lukewarm” life. And while some comparisons are accurate, it’s not really a choice between “Heaven, Hell, or Purgatory” as Robin says. The choice is between which Density you need to be in to continue your overall Life Path. If you are ready for 4D, there you go. If not, stay in 3D and keep learning.
We are in no way ready for 5D. According to RA, the 4th Density usually lasts about 30 million years, and I’m sure we’re not advanced enough to be able to skip that. I believe the references to 5th Dimension mean a higher realm within the 4th Density than would normally be accessed upon graduation from 3D, meaning we are being given a great gift or opportunity to “skip ahead” a little bit in our evolution. I could be wrong, but that is how I understand this.
December 8, 2008 pm31 2:35 am
RoBoh2012.. Thanks for your clarification between what may be considered a ‘Density’ and what may be considered a ‘Dimension’. I agree.. there can be many ‘Densities’ within a ‘Dimension’ and the Third Dimension is no exception!
Back to a point that Alex Colliers guides made.. that those beings even at the 11th ‘D’ (I leave it to you whether you choose to asign ‘Dimension’ or ‘Density’ to that ‘D’!) were anyhow becoming aware of a NEW ‘D’ ‘emanating from the centre’.. they called it, logically enough ’12D’! They explained that this was a frequency and that it had NO ‘polarity’ to it any longer.. in other words it carried ‘Total UNITY’ with it. They said this was new to even those (in/at ’11D) who had, until then assumed there WERE no more ‘D’s'!!!
Actually.. if I remember correctly they went on to say that Creator may have deemed this an ‘efficient’ way of hauling US out of 3D.. ie. Just to take everything around us UP a level or ‘D’!
If we are to accept that we chose to ‘decend’ to play and learn here in 3D.. then it is likely that our return ‘ascent’ can be extremely rapid (because we are not having to learn from scratch all those lessons AGAIN, because we’ve ALREADY ‘Been there.. Done it.. Got the T-shirt etc!’ Therefore, to my mind, it is likely that the ’30 million’ years in 4D in order to access 5D just AINT even on the cards for us.. at least I bloody hope not!
This is the particular Joy of these times for us is that we are Going (straight) ‘Home’ in rapid order, (subject to our choice to do so of course).. Reckon I know which I’d prefer anyway!
One Light.
December 8, 2008 pm31 4:28 am
Roboh2012 and Robin. Some excellent points made above in your disscussion about the various ‘D’s etc.
My understanding,like you explain Robin,is that we originally came here by agreement,from various other dimensions,to experience and learn from the the 3D experiment of duality,for the divine benefit,expansion and further evolvement of all races,dimensions and galaxies. The laboritry mice ‘so to speak’ in a grand experiment,designed by the source/creator,with our joint agreements and co-operation,to create a new form of conciousness,a new energy format or template,to undo the static poise of the universe has it had become stuck/static. As we are all aware,there are at this time on this particular planet,as various cycles come to an end or conclusion at the same point,many beings,entities from many dimensions,planets,galaxies and star systems are accumilating in,on and around this particular planet/experiment for the final conclusion/climax of the event,that the reason so much interest and attention is being placed on this particular planet at this present moment,as all beings and entities throughout our galaxy and other universes,even the Prime Creator,stand to benefit greatly from the conclusion of this divinely planned experiment. We all came from higher planes originally. As part of the challenge of this grand experiment,that we volunteered to take part in,part of the agreement was to lose all sense of who and what we were before we engaged. To come here in complete ignorance,blindness and forgetfullness of these facts,otherwise the experiment could not have possibly worked. A perfectly designed and orchestrated Divine plan !! We are all just holographic fragments of the divine Whole source,prime creator/God spirit !! The website link I posted in my previous comment on here,I believe explains in real clarity,the why and what for purpose of this whole event,and it’s concluding purposes. http://www.ashtarcommand.net/profiles/blogs/the-new-earth-i
One light,one love,one purpose,one soul,one Whole. Blessings to you all !!
December 8, 2008 pm31 4:56 am
YO.. ANDY B.. Thanks and while you were posting the above.. I was reading this:
(It’s an ‘NDE’ account that I found ‘relevant’, stimulating and nicely written!)
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Dec. 7, 2008
Near-Death Experience NDE Story of Mellen-Thomas Benedict
In 1982 I died from terminal cancer. The condition I had was inoperable, and any kind of chemotherapy they could give me would just have made me more of a vegetable. I was given six to eight months to live.
I had been an information freak in the 1970′s, and I had become increasingly despondent over the nuclear crisis, the ecology crisis, and so forth. So, since I did not have a spiritual basis, I began to believe that nature had made a mistake, and that we were probably a cancerous organism on the planet. I saw no way that we could get out from all the problems we had created for ourselves and the planet. I perceived all humans as cancer, and that is what I got.
That is what killed me. Be careful what your world view is. It can feed back on you, especially if it is a negative world view. I had a seriously negative one. That is what led me into my death. I tried all sorts of alternative healing methods, but nothing helped.
So I determined that this was really just between me and God. I had never really faced God before, or even dealt with God. I was not into any kind of spirituality at the time, but I began a journey into learning about spirituality and alterna¬tive healing. I set out to do all the reading I could and bone up on the subject, because I did not want to be surprised on the other side. So I started reading on various religions and philosophies. They were all very interesting, and gave hope that there was something on the other side. I ended up in hospice care.
I remember waking up one morning at home about 4:30 AM, and I just knew that this was it.
This was the day I was going to die. So I called a few friends and said goodbye. I woke up my hospice caretaker and told her. I had a private agreement with her that she would leave my dead body alone for six hours, since I had read that all kinds of interesting things happen when you die. I went back to sleep.
The next thing I remember is the beginning of a typical near-death experience. Suddenly I was fully aware and I was standing up, but my body was in the bed. There was this darkness around me. Being out of my body was even more vivid than ordinary experience. It was so vivid that I could see every room in the house, I could see the top of the house, I could see around the house, I could see under the house.
There was this Light shining. I turned toward the Light. The Light was very similar to what many other people have described in their near-death experiences. It was so magnificent. It is tangible; you can feel it. It is alluring; you want to go to it like you would want to go to your ideal mother’s or father’s arms.
As I began to move toward the Light, I knew intuitively that if I went to the Light, I would be dead. So as I was moving toward the Light I said, “Please wait a minute, just hold on a second here. I want to think about this; I would like to talk to you before I go.” To my surprise, the entire experience halted at that point. You are in control of your life after death experience. You are not on a roller coaster ride.
So my request was honored and I had some conversations with the Light. The Light kept changing into different figures, like Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, mandalas, archetypal images and signs. I asked the Light, “What is going on here? Please, Light, clarify yourself for me. I really want to know the reality of the situation.” I cannot really say the exact words, because it was sort of telepathy.
The Light responded. The information transferred to me was that during your life after death experience your beliefs shape the kind of feedback you are getting before the Light. If you were a Buddhist or Catholic or Fundamentalist, you get a feedback loop of your own stuff. You have a chance to look at it and examine it, but most people do not. As the Light revealed itself to me, I became aware that what I was really seeing was our higher Self matrix.
We all have a higher Self, or an oversoul part of our being. It revealed itself to me in its truest energy form. The only way I can really describe it is that the being of the higher Self is more like a conduit. It did not look like that, but it is a direct connection to the Source that each and every one of us has. We are directly connected to the Source. So the Light was showing me the higher Self matrix. I was not committed to one particular religion. So that is what was being fed back to me during my life after death experience.
As I asked the Light to keep clearing for me, to keep explaining, I understood what the higher Self matrix is. We have a grid around the planet where all the higher Selves are connected.
This is like a great company, a next subtle level of energy around us, the spirit level, you might say. Then, after a couple of minutes, I asked for more clarification. I really wanted to know what the universe is about, and I was ready to go at that time. I said “I am ready, take me.”
Then the Light turned into the most beautiful thing that I have ever seen: a mandala of human souls on this planet. Now I came to this with my negative view of what was happening on the planet. So as I asked the Light to keep clarifying for me, I saw in this magnificent mandala how beautiful we all are in our essence, our core. We are the most beautiful creations.
The human soul, the human matrix that we all make together is absolutely fantastic, elegant, exotic, everything. I just cannot say enough about how it changed my opinion of human beings in that instant. I said, “Oh, God, I did not know how beautiful we are.” At any level, high or low, in whatever shape you are in, you are the most beautiful creation, you are.
The revelations coming from the Light and seemed to go on and on, then I asked the Light, “Does this mean that Mankind will be saved?” Then, like a trumpet blast with a shower of spiraling lights, the Great Light spoke, saying, “Remember this and never forget; you save, redeem and heal yourself. You always have. You always will. You were created with the power to do so from before the beginning of the world.”
In that instant I realized even more. I realized that WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN SAVED, and we saved ourselves because we were designed to self- correct like the rest of God’s universe. This is what the second coming is about. I thanked the Light of God with all my heart. The best thing I could come up with was these simple words of total appreciation: “Oh dear God, dear Universe, dear Great Self, I Love My Life.”
The Light seemed to breathe me in even more deeply. It was as if the Light was completely absorbing me. The Love Light is, to this day, indescribable. I entered into another realm, more profound than the last, and became aware of something more, much more. It was an enormous stream of Light, vast and full, deep in the Heart of Life. I asked what this was.
The Light responded, “This is the RIVER OF LIFE. Drink of this manna water to your heart’s content.” So I did. I took one big drink and then another. To drink of Life Itself! I was in ecstasy.
Then the Light said, “You have a desire.” The Light knew all about me, everything past, present and future. “Yes!” I whispered.
I asked to see the rest of the Universe; beyond our solar system, beyond all human illusion. The Light then told me that I could go with the Stream. I did, and was carried Through the Light at the End of the Tunnel. I felt and heard a series of very soft sonic booms. What a rush!
Suddenly I seemed to be rocketing away from the planet on this stream of Life. I saw the earth fly away. The solar system, in all its splendor, whizzed by and disappeared. At faster than light speed, I flew through the center of the galaxy, absorbing more knowledge as I went. I learned that this galaxy, and all of the Universe, is bursting with many different varieties of LIFE. I saw many worlds. The good news is that we are not alone in this Universe!
As I rode this stream of consciousness through the center of the galaxy, the stream was expanding in awesome fractal waves of energy. The super clusters of galaxies with all their ancient wisdom flew by. At first I thought I was going somewhere; actually traveling. But then I realized that, as the stream was expanding, my own consciousness was also expanding to take in everything in the Universe! All creation passed by me. It was an unimaginable wonder! I truly was a Wonder Child; a babe in Wonderland!
At this point, I found myself in a profound stillness, beyond all silence. I could see or perceive FOREVER, beyond Infinity.
I was in the Void.
I was in pre-creation, before the Big Bang. I had crossed over the beginning of time/the First Word/the First vibration. I was in the Eye of Creation. I felt as if I was touching the Face of God. It was not a religious feeling. Simply I was at one with Absolute Life and Consciousness.
When I say that I could see or perceive forever, I mean that I could experience all of creation generating itself. It was without beginning and without end. That’s a mind expanding thought, isn’t it?
Scientists perceive the Big Bang as a single event which created the Universe. I saw during my life after death experience that the Big Bang is only one of an infinite number of Big Bangs creating Universes endlessly and simultaneously. The only images that even come close in human terms would be those created by super computers using fractal geometry equations.
The ancients knew of this. They said God had periodically created new Universes by breathing out, and recreated other Universes by breathing in. These epochs were called Yugas. Modern science called this the Big Bang. I was in absolute, pure consciousness. I could see or perceive all the Big Bangs or Yugas creating and recreating themselves. Instantly I entered into them all simultaneously. I saw that each and every little piece of creation has the power to create. It is very difficult to try to explain this. I am still speechless about this.
It took me years after I returned from my near-death experience to assimilate any words at all for the Void experience. I can tell you this now: the Void is less than nothing, yet more than everything that is! The Void is absolute zero; chaos forming all possibilities. It is Absolute Consciousness; much more than even Universal Intelligence.
The Void is the vacuum or nothingness between all physical manifestations. The SPACE between atoms and their components. Modern science has begun to study this space between everything. They call it Zero point. Whenever they try to measure it, their instruments go off the scale, or to infinity, so to speak. They have no way, as of yet, to measure infinity accurately. There is more of the 0 space in your own body and the Universe than anything else!
What mystics call the Void is not a void. It is so full of energy, a different kind of energy that has created everything that we are. Everything since the Big Bang is vibration, from the first Word, which is the first vibration. The biblical “I am” really has a question mark after it. “I am—What am I?” So creation is God exploring God’s Self through every way imaginable, in an on-going, infinite exploration through every one of us. I began to see during my near-death experience that everything that is, is the Self, literally, your Self, my Self. Everything is the great Self. That is why God knows even when a leaf falls. That is possible because wherever you are is the center of the universe. Wherever any atom is, that is the center of the universe. There is God in that, and God in the Void.
As I was exploring the Void during my life after death experience and all the Yugas or creations, I was completely out of time and space as we know it. In this expanded state, I discovered that creation is about Absolute Pure Consciousness, or God, coming into the Experience of Life as we know it. The Void itself is devoid of experience. It is pre life, before the first vibration. Godhead is about more than Life and Death. Therefore there is even more than Life and Death to experience in the Universe!
When I realized this I was finished with the Void, and wanted to return to this creation, or Yuga. It just seemed like the natural thing to do. Then I suddenly came back through the second Light, or the Big Bang, hearing several more velvet booms. I rode the stream of consciousness back through all of creation, and what a ride it was! The super clusters of galaxies came through me with even more insights. I passed through the center of our galaxy, which is a black hole. Black holes are the great processors or recyclers of the Universe.
Do you know what is on the other side of a Black Hole? We are; our galaxy, which has been reprocessed from another Universe. In its total energy configuration, the galaxy looked like a fantastic city of lights. All energy this side of the Big Bang is light. Every sub atom, atom, star, planet, even consciousness itself is made of light and has a frequency and/or particle. Light is living stuff. Everything is made of light, even stones. So everything is alive. Everything is made from the Light of God; everything is very intelligent.
As I rode the stream on and on, I could eventually see a huge Light coming. I knew it was the First Light; the higher Self Light Matrix of our solar system. Then the entire solar system appeared in the Light, accompanied by one of those velvet booms.
I could see all the energy that this solar system generates, and it is an incredible light show! I could hear the Music of the Spheres. Our solar system, as do all celestial bodies, generates a unique matrix of light, sound and vibratory energies. Advanced civilizations from other star systems can spot life as we know it in the universe by the vibratory or energy matrix imprint. It is child’s play. The earth’s Wonder child (human beings) make an abundance of sound right now, like children playing in the backyard of the universe.
The Light explained to me that there is no death; we are immortal beings. We have already been alive forever! I realized that we are part of a natural living system that recycles itself endlessly. I was never told that I had to come back. I just knew that I would. It was only natural, from what I had seen during my life after death experience.
I don’t know how long I was with the Light, in human time. But there came a moment when I realized that all my questions had been answered and my return was near. When I say that all my questions were answered on the other side, I mean to say just that. All my questions have been answered. Every human has a different life and set of questions to explore. Some of our questions are Universal, but each of us is exploring this thing we call Life in our own unique way. So is every other form of life, from mountains to every leaf on every tree.
And that is very important to the rest of us in this Universe. Because it all contributes to the Big Picture, the fullness of Life. We are literally God exploring God’s self in an infinite Dance of Life. Your uniqueness enhances all of Life.
As I began my return to the life cycle, it never crossed my mind, nor was I told that I would return to the same body. It just did not matter. I had complete trust in the Light and the Life process. As the stream merged with the great Light, I asked never to forget the revelations and the feelings of what I had learned on the other side.
There was a “Yes.” It felt like a kiss to my soul.
Then I was taken back through the Light into the vibratory realm again. The whole process reversed, with even more information being given to me. I came back home, and I was given lessons from my near- death experience on the mechanics of reincarnation. I was given answers to all those little questions I had: “How does this work? How does that work?” I knew that I would be reincarnated.
The earth is a great processor of energy, and individual consciousness evolves out of that into each one of us. I thought of myself as a human for the first time, and I was happy to be that. From what I have seen, I would be happy to be an atom in this universe. An atom. So to be the human part of God… this is the most fantastic blessing. It is a blessing beyond our wildest estimation of what blessing can be. For each and every one of us to be the human part of this experience is awesome, and magnificent. Each and every one of us, no matter where we are, screwed up or not, is a blessing to the planet, right where we are.
I went through the reincarnation process expecting to be a baby somewhere. But I was given a lesson on how individual identity and consciousness evolve. I was so surprised when I opened my eyes. I do not know why, because I understood it, but it was still such a surprise to be back in this body, back in my room with someone looking over me crying her eyes out. It was my hospice caretaker. She had given up an hour and a half after finding me dead. My body was stiff and inflexible. She went into the other room. Then I awakened and saw the light outside. I tried to get up to go to it, but I fell out of the bed. She heard a loud “clunk,” ran in and found me on the floor.
When I recovered, I was very surprised and yet very awed about what had happened to me during my near-death experience. At first all the memory of the trip that I have now was not there. I kept slipping out of this world and kept asking, “Am I alive?” This world seemed more like a dream than that one. Within three days I was feeling normal again, clearer, yet different than I had ever felt in my life. My memory of my near-death experience came back later. I could see nothing wrong with any human being I had ever seen. Before that I was really judgmental. I thought a lot of people were really screwed up, in fact I thought that everybody was screwed up but me. But I got clear on all that.
About three months later a friend said I should get tested, so I went and got the scans and so forth. I really felt good, so I was afraid of getting bad news. I remember the doctor at the clinic looking at the before and after scans, saying, “Well, there is nothing here now.” I said, “Really, it must be a miracle”‘ He said “No, these things happen; they are called spontaneous remission.” He acted very unimpressed. But here was a miracle, and I was impressed, even if no one else was.
During my near-death experience I had a descent into what you might call Hell, and it was very surprising. I did not see Satan or evil. My descent into Hell was a descent into each person’s customized human misery, ignorance, and darkness of not knowing. It seemed like a miserable eternity. But each of the millions of souls around me had a little star of light always available. But no one seemed to pay attention to it. They were so consumed with their own grief, trauma and misery. But, after what seemed an eternity, I started calling out to that Light, like a child calling to a parent for help.
Then the Light opened up and formed a tunnel that came right to me and insulated me from all that fear and pain, That is what Hell really is. So what we are doing is learning to hold hands, to come together. The doors of Hell are open now. We are going to link up, hold hands, and walk out of Hell together. The Light came to me and turned into a huge golden angel. I said, “Are you the angel of death?” It expressed to me that it was my oversoul, my higher Self matrix, a super ancient part of ourselves. Then I was taken to the Light.
Soon our science will quantify spirit. Isn’t that going to be wonderful? We are coming up with devices now that are sensitive to subtle energy or spirit energy. Physicists use these atomic colliders to smash atoms to see what they are made of. They have got it down to quarks and charm, and all that. Well, one day they are going to come down to the little thing that holds it all together, and they are going to have to call that … God. We are just beginning to understand that we are creating too, as we go along. As I saw forever, I came to a realm during my near-death experience in which there is a point where we pass all knowledge and begin creating the next fractal, the next level. We have that power to create as we explore. And that is God expanding itself through us.
Since my return I have experienced the Light spontaneously, and I have learned how to get to that space almost any time in my meditation. Each one of you can do this. You do not have to die or have a near-death experience to do this. It is within your equipment; you are wired for it already. The body is the most magnificent Light being there is. The body is a universe of incredible Light. Spirit is not pushing us to dissolve this body. That is not what is happening. Stop trying to become God; God is becoming you. Here.
I asked God: “What is the best religion on the planet? Which one is right?” And Godhead said, with great love: “I don’t care.” That was incredible grace. When Godhead said, “I don’t care,” I immediately understood that it is for us to care about. It is important, because we are the caring beings. It matters to us and that is where it is important. What you have is the energy equation in spirituality. Ultimate Godhead does not care if you are Protestant, Buddhist, or whatever. It is all a blooming facet of the whole. I wish that all religions would realize it and let each other be. It is not the end of each religion, but we are talking about the same God. Live and let live. Each has a different view. And it all adds up to the big picture; it is all important.
I went over to the other side during my near-death experience with a lot of fears about toxic waste, nuclear missiles, the population explosion, the rainforest. I came back loving every single problem. I love nuclear waste. I love the mushroom cloud; this is the holiest mandala that we have manifested to date, as an archetype. It, more than any religion or philosophy on earth, brought us together all of a sudden, to a new level of consciousness. Knowing that maybe we can blow up the planet fifty times, or 500 times, we finally realize that maybe we are all here together now.
For a period they had to keep setting off more bombs to get it in to us. Then we started saying, “we do not need this any more.” Now we are actually in a safer world than we have ever been in, and it is going to get safer. So I came back from my near-death experience loving toxic waste, because it brought us together. These things are so big. As Peter Russell might say, these problems are now “soul size.” Do we have soul size answers” YES!
The clearing of the rain forest will slow down, and in fifty years there will be more trees on the planet than in a long time. If you are into ecology, go for it; you are that part of the system that is becoming aware. Go for it with all your might, but do not be depressed. It is part of a larger thing.
Earth is in the process of domesticating itself. It is never again going to be as wild a place as it once was. There will be great wild places, reserves where nature thrives. Gardening and reserves will be the thing in the future. Population increase is getting very close to the optimal range of energy to cause a shift in consciousness. That shift in consciousness will change politics, money, energy.
After dying, going through my near-death experience and coming back, I really respect life and death. In our DNA experiments we may have opened the door to a great secret. Soon we will be able to live as long as we want to live in this body.
After living 150 years or so, there will be an intuitive soul sense that you will want to change channels. Living forever in one body is not as creative as reincarnation, as transferring energy in this fantastic vortex of energy that we are in. We are actually going to see the wisdom of life and death, and enjoy it. As it is now, we have already been alive forever.
This body, that you are in, has been alive forever. It comes from an unending stream of life, going back to the Big Bang and beyond.
This body gives life to the next life, in dense and subtle energy.
This body has been alive forever already.
Love, Peace, Blessings and Light BE for all, Firelight
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‘First-hand’ account Eh?
One Love~MANY Lights!!
December 8, 2008 pm31 5:00 am
As a PS to my previous posting. If you do visit the site/article/link as posted in earlier comment,then when you reach the bottom of the page/article,please also click on next and previous articles. There is a message for everyone here !! Hope you enjoy !!
December 8, 2008 pm31 12:21 pm
Andy B, thanks for the link. Robin, thanks for the Near Death Experience story. I read them both.
December 8, 2008 pm31 10:47 pm
Hi Robin, thanks for the NDE post. Laurinda has been prompting me to share my NDE, so here it is. During the NDE, I experienced the warmth and love of God, emanating from what I perceived to be a ball of light consisting of many souls. I am not proud of what the NDE, too much alcohol and pot. I am also not proud of the events that followed immediately after. I experienced hallucinations for the next 2 hours with religious significance (and I have documented some of these seperately), but I was not fully aware of my behaviour in the real world during my hallucinations, and the people around me thought I was having a schizophrenic episode. My account is not written neatly, it comes straight out of my personal journal, with only a minor bit of editing for public posting. It is important to know my religious history as it affected my NDE. I was raised Roman Catholic, have studied Islam. I was a member of a Protestant/Evangelical/Pentacostal COGIC church during the time of my NDE.
I did a lot of NDE research after I finished writing down my own account, and found that while every NDE is unique, there are common themes that appear in many of them. I had premonitions of impending death and the number 11 during the week prior to the NDE. The hallucinations afterwards had images of balance and equality, such as the yin yang symbol, and the balance scales of justice. Images that implied the existence of life on other worlds, sounds of choirs singing praises to God, the sound of the name of God, I saw Jesus and Mohammed. I experienced the post-life review, experiencing my life over and over very rapidly, until I was shown how to control it and slow it down, even stopping it at any selected moment. I experiencing the happiest (heaven) and worst (hell) moments of my life. I had to “vomit” out the evil, as the body must be pure in God’s presence, it was explained to me, “this is how it is done”. I experienced omnipotence, being part of everything, and nothingness all at once. I felt myself regress backwards to the moment of present body’s creation, becoming a fetus, and down to nothingness. I saw myself holding Jesus’s hand, and he told me that I had to decide whether to hold on, or let go. I was afraid, I did not know which was the correct choice. He wanted me to trust him. I was afraid of dissolving into nothingness. Several days after the NDE, I was able to once, or twice, conjure that feeling of light and love.
Weeks later, I figured out the symbology of the number 11. It is a symbol of equality =. In the end, everything is equal.
My Near Death Experience:
Bill
Age: 36
Date of Event: Saturday, Sept. 18, 2004 9:36 pm PDT
no Out of body experience, no tunnel.
- When I first left, about the moment I said “I’m going to heaven”, I saw a brilliant, but not blinding, all encompassing light.
- Just at the instant before I saw the light, did I say “I’m going to heaven”, in an incredulous but knowing voice? Sort of affirming what I already knew to be true?
blinding white light, simultaneous feeling of nausea, and orgasm.
I have sensation that time, space, distance, and gravity are meaningless here.
I hear voice or have sensation: “Near Death Experience, Vision Quest, they are one and the same”.
I could feel the presence of at least two angels, but could not see them, but I feel their hands on my shoulders and can hear their calm voices saying three phrases repeatedly:
- Do not be afraid
- It’s going to be all right
- everything’s going to be ok
I am amused that they don’t say “Fear not”, as angels are often quoted as saying in the Bible.
I remember hearing this phrase (or something similar) several times “Soon you will understand”.
I can see 4 or 5 dead relatives, who are surrounded by others also. I don’t remember if I spoke to any of them. Then they are gone.
There is someone else there, in front of me.
Life review, very fast, emotionally overwhelming, hard to describe, very happy and very sad all at once.
One voice speaking: “What are you doing here? You’re not supposed to be here yet”.
Me: terrified of dying, begin saying my final I love You to everyone I can think of, followed by begging, screaming, crying, “no, I don’t want to die, I was happy with my how my life was going.
a feeling of great warmth on my face.
the Voice: “You need to go back”, then the voice and it’s presence are suddenly gone.
Me: Instant happiness and tremendous gratitude. feeling of return.
- I remember that even though I was grateful to be returning, it was difficult at first to pull myself away and leave the “voice”. Also, maybe I do remember the last moment before I re-entered my body, I remember looking down at myself from slightly above and behind, as my body was seated in the chair. I also “knew” that my body was going to be in a very messed up condition when I re-entered it.
The first thought I had upon regaining my senses (though distorted – sight, hearing, and awareness of my surroundings – still seated at the table) was “oops, I must have overdone it”. Referring to the fact that I was surprised at how little it had taken to kick me loose from my body.
December 9, 2008 pm31 10:36 am
Phew!! That’s all pretty full-on Eh?
Welcome Back Bill.. glad you checked in.. we need you here!
December 9, 2008 pm31 2:33 pm
Bill I am so grateful that you decided to share your NDE with all of us here! You are indeed a shining soul and I for one am all the better for knowing you. God bless you my friend!
December 9, 2008 pm31 11:11 pm
To Robin and Laurinda, thanks! That was a tough one for me to post, as it was a very personal spiritual experience. I do check this site nearly everyday, even if I don’t always make a post.
Love and Light to you my friends!