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Message from SaLuSa for 17-July-2009 by Mike Quinsey

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    The media appear to concentrate on much that is upsetting and not of the higher vibrations. The continual focus on lack and chaos seems unending, but we tell you it is at the guidance of the Illuminati who wish to keep you in a state of fear. This is something we ask you to avoid, by looking at what the future promises and think only of that which will replace the old Earth. Ironically, by emphasising the negativity, the dark ones are revealing to you all that needs to be transformed, and Lightworkers understand the necessity for using their Light to do so. Immediate results are not necessarily to be expected, so allow for changes to occur when the right time arrives. Leave it to the higher Beings to respond to your desires and sure enough they will be answered.

    If you are one who has yet to understand what is happening, but are of good heart and intentions know that you too can visualise a future of peace and happiness. Your input will be as valuable as anyone else’s, as you are all unique and have a hand in the future. Clearly you cannot all do the same, and after all there are those who when they came to Earth, were already more evolved. Many great Beings not only work with you from the higher dimensions, but are also amongst you having entered through the normal birth channels. They are often known by their saintly appearance and immense patience, and caring that extends to all beings. Their wisdom will be of a high order and understanding that covers all aspects of life. Watch out for them, because they will guide you onto a path of upliftment.

    Each of you have a life plan as your experiences are not to be wasted upon pointless activities. There are always going to be milestones in your life that signal a change of direction. Some would be regarded as pleasing, while others may be unpleasant but either way they are for your spiritual evolution. Accept that it is so, and you will be better able to deal with life’s ups and downs. It will also overcome the temptation to act against others who appear to be against you. Forgiveness is a great attribute that comes from being able to ”Love All As Yourself”. Compassion is also a sign of a mature and advanced soul. These are the levels that you should be aiming for, but do not falter if you make mistakes. It is through them that your greatest lessons are learnt. Learn also from others, as you do not necessarily have to go through everything yourself. Consider a family situation that involves many people, and how they come out of it together. Sometimes it is their sole/soul purpose for doing so, and often it is to clear karma that has involved them all in previous lives.

    However far you advance along the spiritual path, you will never stop learning. Yet once you rise up from the lower levels, your advancement will become progressively easier. Then you will openly meet with the Masters and gain from their experience, and you may stay with them for a period of time until it is in your interests to move on. Always the higher Beings put out a helping hand to lift up those who follow in their footsteps. At times you will experience the benefit of becoming part of a group consciousness, by being at one yet also retaining your individuality. Can you imagine the wonderful experience of having such resonance with many souls who have a like energy? You may have had friendships where you felt as though you were with your soul mate. Two souls working in harmony and knowing each other’s thoughts, and that is how it feels to be in the presence of many souls that are on the same vibration.

    Dear Ones, the future is bright and will be filled with Light, and never again will you called upon to venture into the lower levels except it be by your choice. These levels will disappear from your solar system, as there will no place left for them following Ascension. The souls entrapped in them will be moved to another system, to continue on their evolutionary path. No one is lost forever, and since there is no time his or her awakening can come in its own good time. From this you will realise that it removes one distortion of the facts, that there is no such thing as everlasting damnation. God loves all souls as they are an immutable part of God, destined to return to the Godhead as eventually all souls will. However, that will not concern you, unless you elect to work with the Angelic Kingdom in helping save such souls.

    Light continues to pour upon Earth from many levels, and you as individuals are drawing it into your bodies. This is gently bringing about changes within it, and is benefiting you in general and in particular your health. Eventually your vibrations will be sufficiently high enough to totally avoid illness and any other malady. The processes of change within you will lift your vibrations up, and even aging will become slowed down. It is to some extent a state of mind, as you expect to age and therefore you do so. Think differently now and imagine having a mature and healthy body, because that is what you are progressing to even as you approach Ascension. Your power of thought can perform miracles, but you have to believe in your own ability to do so.

    Your desire to see an end to the power of the dark ones will be satisfied. Their power bases are crumbling, and will collapse quite rapidly as disunity occurs amongst their ranks. The game is up, as you might say and they know it to be so, but defeat is not something they like to admit to themselves. We may have to take some forceful action to speed matters on, and we see opportunities to do so. It will be co-ordinated with our allies who are set to move our plan forward. More we cannot say just now, except for you to keep aware of what is happening at the highest levels on Earth. Our strength is in having our support where it can bring about the best results for us. The next few months should be significant if you can read the signs.

    I am SaLuSa from Sirius, and can tell you that the thoughtform for change grows ever stronger, and its energy will soon deliver a major change for all to see. Events are closing in on those who defy the Light, and their rejection of it can no longer hold it back. Be prepared for some interesting news before long, and be sure it is the start of a new phase in our plan. As is often said, keep your eyes on activity in the skies where we are waiting, as it is time for action. Meanwhile we add our love to the great energies arriving on Earth.

    Thank you SaLuSa

    Mike Quinsey.

50 Comments
  1. #1 jacob
    July 17, 2009 pm31 6:21 pm

    i dozed off a while ago and in part of my dream my dad was driving down a highway 1car in front of us i looked through the window and saw a awe inspiring ship the size of the cloud it was behind its shape was a mixture of different styles put in one it looked funky then 2other ships came down close to us they looked like pelicans from halo 3 but i guess thats how my mind saw them or was easier to present them in that fashion it was a lucid dream.

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  2. #2 jacob
    July 17, 2009 pm31 6:22 pm

    any comments on my above dream?

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  3. #3 Ship
    July 17, 2009 pm31 6:51 pm

    First contact needs to hurry up before Mike Quinsey bores us to death.

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  4. #4 jacob
    July 17, 2009 pm31 7:18 pm

    omg im so pissed off because of what the illuminati did at a elementry school they staged a war of the worlds show and have a teacher be abducted before 7year olds eyes then they dont tell the parents grrr its just a way for them to make it seem like its bad when the gfol lands and plants fear into them.brooklin rage!!!

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  5. #5 jacob
    July 17, 2009 pm31 7:19 pm

    oh ps half the the kids shit their pants and were tramatized they couldnt speak wouldnt eat grrr

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  6. #6 Peace frog
    July 17, 2009 pm31 8:31 pm

    nice dude what else was in your dream?

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  7. #7 jacob
    July 17, 2009 pm31 8:36 pm

    to peace frog well i cant remember but there is one dream i will always remember do you want to hear it?

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  8. #8 Lucian Ilea
    July 17, 2009 pm31 10:32 pm

    Please tell me,what has happened with the Moon station?
    Was it destroyed in the battle?
    Is it around Earth right now?
    The star destroyers -what about them?
    For the past 5-6 nights I have failed to see the Moon
    although I’m awake all nights
    She is like a girlfriend to me,the Moon
    I had avision last night:
    I saw the Sun turn purple and exploding
    Sun parts fled and missed Earth ,but pnly darkness remained
    I also saw that the Moon exploded

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  9. #9 jacob
    July 17, 2009 pm31 10:46 pm

    the moon still there i can see it but its just behind very dense clouds happens once in a while

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  10. #10 jacob
    July 17, 2009 pm31 10:47 pm

    oh i saw the moon yesterday by the way

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  11. #11 light2012
    July 17, 2009 pm31 10:47 pm

    moon still there.And seems be there forever as like illimunati

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  12. #12 Ship
    July 18, 2009 pm31 12:21 am

    Lucian you are so awesome! Love everything you say and that picture is the best! Did you say you were a God of 52nd dimension? Can I visit it sometime?

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  13. #13 flurgx
    July 18, 2009 pm31 1:40 am

    well in the next few days it will be hard to see the moon because of the solar eclipse on 22nd july over asia
    but i miss niburu on the night sky, nobody saw it Frown
    i´m looking forward to the significants of the next month … maybe we can SEE some progress

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  14. #14 Robin.
    July 18, 2009 pm31 6:14 am

    “..keep your eyes on activity in the skies where we are waiting, as it is time for action..”

    OK.. at last it’s ‘action-time’!

    Actually, maybe if all Lucian can see is exploding Suns & Moons, it’d be better if he looked the other way?

    In Light.

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  15. #15 DRAGO
    July 18, 2009 pm31 7:57 am

    THANK-YOU ONCE AGAIN, BROTHER, MIKE QUINSEY, DEAR SALUSA, COMING FROM THE GALACTIC FAMILY..THESE UP-DATES, ARE A GREAT-HELP, HERE IN AUSTRALIA>? LOT’S PEOPLE ARE NOW SEEING THE VEIL LIFT.!! THE INFORMATION, ALLOWS US, TO PUT THE JIG-SAW PUZZLE TOGETHER MORE EASILY.? CAN’T WAIT TO MEET , ONCE AGAIN, OUR TRUE FAMILY…WELL-DONE THE GALACTIC LIGHT OF LOVE…CHEERS

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  16. #16 Lindiana
    July 18, 2009 pm31 8:06 am

    To Drago: What is happening there that has lifted the veil?

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  17. #17 Robin.
    July 18, 2009 pm31 12:23 pm

    From Aus: “Nothing that isn’t also happening everywhere else!”

    In Light.

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  18. #18 Clearon
    July 18, 2009 pm31 5:21 pm

    …I agree this is like so completely stale it smells….if the whole thing is just a hoax -do- try to come up with some better material….it all seems like a really bad joke….at the cost of everyone…..not a very nice thing to be doing………unless your an idiot……..

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  19. #19 jacob
    July 18, 2009 pm31 7:49 pm

    ok now im losing my patience nothings getting better and its only getting worse i want proof things are getting better or major proof the gfol exsists i beleive it does but you never know(theres a video showing hundredges of ships but i want a vid of one close up)

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  20. #20 kamalayka
    July 18, 2009 pm31 11:59 pm

    Today I saw an alien. He was angrily masturbating to George Bush…

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  21. #21 Smithe
    July 19, 2009 pm31 12:04 am

    To Jacob or anyone else:
    I saw a big craft around 5:20 am. That’s right morning, I see more and more ships. I am a smith, and work at night, hammer away on my anvil. I toke a break early one morning and saw it move through. I didn’t get a bad vibe, when I used my eye in my head. This event toke place 1 month ago, on a clear night, and flow about 150-200 ft above tree tops. As I hammer out the Light in dark places. How will you come to see them at night.

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  22. #22 Fergie
    July 19, 2009 pm31 4:33 am

    Good morning All,

    I just read this Matthew Speaks message and it was very interesting. I am posting it below…

    *take note how towards the end he references channels who have been manipulated by the dark to describe events like mass evacuation from the earth’s surface and taking refuge in underground cities. He denies these events will take place…

    What are your thoughts?

    Have a great Sunday…much LOVEWink
    _________

    July 18, 2009

    With loving greetings from all souls at this station, this is Matthew. For one fleeting moment in the universal tapestry of eternity, hearts around the world unite in sympathy and compassion for the family of Michael Jackson in mourning the passing of that beautiful soul whose lifetime exemplified unconditional love. That moment is much more than unified sorrow and remembrance of Michael’s internationally acclaimed talents and thrilling performances-his death inspired love to blaze in the peoples of Earth, and in that, his primary life mission was supremely successful. The love energy still being generated is raising the vibrations throughout the planet. For some individuals, it was a moment of getting past, even forgiving acts they believed he committed some years ago. At the time he was acquitted of those charges, I responded to readers’ doubts about the trial’s outcome: It was a fair and just verdict because Michael was innocent, the accusations against him were false. I also said that all parties involved agreed prior to birth to play their respective roles, but the intensity of stress Michael endured greatly exceeded what he had agreed to experience for the benefit of his accusers’ soul growth. It was sad for us to witness how severely his heartbreaking ordeal affected his well being and ultimately caused him to transition into spirit life earlier than his contract called for. To all who feel a loss, please be heartened by knowing that Michael was greeted in Nirvana by a throng of well-wishers and given personalized intensive care to quickly strengthen his etheric body-as an aspect of his physical body, it also suffered the ravages of debilitation. (The referenced message is June 21, 2005)

    Michael is one of the most prominent souls who recently chose to make transition, but millions who are known only to families and friends also have been choosing to leave Earth lifetimes, and many millions more will do so before the Golden Age is fully established. While some will have completed their soul contracts, others will amend their contracts so they can move out of the heavy negativity in their surroundings and, from the spirit world, help to reduce its effects on the planet by adding their light from above. So please do not feel these “lives are cut short,” but rather, know that they joyfully returned to spirit life and feel gratitude for their love-filled service to Earth and all her life forms.

    At the other end of the spectrum from the outpouring of love for Michael Jackson is what the makers of swine flu virus are up to. Once again these dark ones are crying “Pandemic!” They failed to create that situation with SARS, avian flu and the first go-round of swine flu, and even their secondary purpose, to cause worldwide panic, did not materialize. That utter futility along with their growing desperation motivated them to put swine flu back on center stage with the addition of mandatory inoculations, a factor not present in their doubly-failed previous attempts.

    It is heartening to see widespread rebellion against inoculating the populace for a mild form of flu, but at this point we cannot determine if that will derail the vaccination program because the energy of resistance is about equal to the energy of greed and diabolical intentions of pharmaceutical companies’ top management. Yes, indeed they are Illuminati, and they still wield strong influence in clinical medicine, medical research and drug approval bodies-in short, they have been creating diseases by one means or another and manipulating health care systems and medications around your world. But, just as in the previous flu situations, the technology of our universal family has neutralized the swine flu virus-laden vaccines and will continue to do so as long as the makers persist in their scheme. And please have no worries about programmed microchips being implanted via inoculations-if that is attempted, the programming will be erased by that same technology.

    Evidence of this new flu effort and other Illuminati activities to drastically reduce the population is being amassed and eventually will completely eliminate that dark group’s long control through fear, ignorance and economic slavery. When the monumental level of corruption and deception in your world is exposed, even mainstream media will not be able to silence the revelations. National and international icons will be “dethroned”; dishonest and tyrannical government leaders will be replaced by ones who are benevolent and wise; where war mentality exists, it will give way to peaceful negotiation and poverty will give way to fair allocation of the world’s resources.

    But please be patient! What is happening is not a revolution, it is spiritual evolution-that is the way of the light! It is the way of lightworkers and light warriors, whose armor and weapon against the darkness is the power of love. Love is the same energy as light, simply expressed differently, and it is the most powerful energy in the cosmos. This is why so often messengers of the light have urged you to send light-love to the dark ones. As parts of the Oneness of All, they are your soul-level brothers and sisters who are experiencing the painful absence of love essence in their lives. That absence underlies their negative motives and actions that have provided conditions necessary for the multitudes to complete third density’s karmic lessons. Knowing this universal truth engenders feelings of compassion and gratitude and the beaming of love to those who lack it.

    Now then, there is the appearance that the global economic upheaval will be resolved within the very same system that caused it. This is an Illuminati contrivance to prevent your knowing that their system, which has been rotten to the core from its inception, has crumbled and only the façade remains. Conversion to a new economic foundation and operation is an enormous undertaking, and it cannot be publicly heralded that this is occurring as that would cause panic throughout the business world. The lighted souls who are leading the way know that panic would fuel the dark ones, who are clinging on for dear life; it is essential that these new leaders take judicious steps quietly to avoid creating a fear-filled populace.

    Fear is at the root of the “dire predictions” once again circulating and of concern to many, and we can only repeat what we have said in previous messages. Some channeled messages purportedly from light sources actually are from dark entities that have beguiled their receivers into sending out false information that will cause fear as well as confusion because it conflicts with other channeled messages. Since numerous specific timeframes for earthquakes and tsunamis with the force to kill billions have come and gone and those predicted events did not occur, you can see why it is not logical or sensible to feel fearful about something you may never experience.

    It is true that Earth must release more negativity and her natural means is geophysical events, so those will continue until the need no longer exists; however, the advanced technology of our universal family nearby the planet will continue to reduce the destructive power of manmade or naturally-occurring quakes, storms and volcanic eruptions. While we cannot tell you that no lives will be lost and no damage will result, with absolute certainty we say that reports about spacecraft carrying out mass evacuation of the peoples are false-it will not be necessary! Another example of false information is that survivors of massive planetary destruction will have to live underground because the surface will be uninhabitable for a very long time. How totally contrary to the reality: Earth’s health is being restored and her once pristine beauty will be as well, and far more rapidly than you can imagine!

    Once again we urge you to be discerning about all information and trust your intuition, the messages from your soul wherein all universal knowledge and truth abide!

    My message today is unusually brief with respect to my mother’s need to tend other responsibilities as my Earth family deals with Bob’s health challenges.

    All lighted souls in spirit and physical worlds are assisting you in myriad ways during these last stages of Earth’s steady ascension into her Golden Age. We embrace you lovingly as we accompany you along your journey.

    LOVE and PEACE

    Suzanne Ward http://www.matthewbooks.com

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  23. #23 jacob
    July 19, 2009 pm31 5:10 am

    ok now im really confused are we supposed to go underground or not?

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  24. #24 jacob
    July 19, 2009 pm31 5:15 am

    smithe do you happen to have a camera to record these sitings?

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  25. #25 Robin.
    July 19, 2009 pm31 7:27 am

    “..that survivors of massive planetary destruction will have to live underground because the surface will be uninhabitable for a very long time..” (is not true): Matthew.

    “..Earth’s surface, too, is to undergo a vast reconfiguration in synchrony with your transformation. Her new biosphere is to resemble that of Inner Earth so that, for the first time since the Lemurian catastrophe, inner and surface Earth can be linked, as they are designed to be. Naturally, while this is happening you need to be elsewhere: in the safe haven of Inner Earth..”: Sheldon Nidle.

    So is there a difference here?

    Matthew vs. Sheldon?

    Tricky….

    In Light.

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  26. #26 jacob
    July 19, 2009 pm31 8:03 am

    well this my thoughts polar shift+new reality=crazy shit happening

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  27. #27 QuadHealer
    July 19, 2009 pm31 10:27 am

    @Fergie & Robin
    Matthew’s messages have always felt right to me, and I can certainly see the difference between the messages of Sheldon and Matthew.

    Matthew is saying that there will be no time when Earth will be uninhabitable and there will be no need for mass evacuations (although he is not denying that there will be some damage as Earth transforms).

    In Peace

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  28. #28 Marigen
    July 19, 2009 pm31 12:13 pm

    Hi!

    Please go to http://www.projectcamelot.org and listen to an interview with Dr. Bill Deagle, recorded on this saturday July 18. Very interesting, I would like to see your comments on it.

    Don´t know why, but my intuition doesn´t tune with Matthew, can´t explain it, sorry…but it is a very strong feeling.
    In LOVE and LIGHT

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  29. #29 QuadHealer
    July 19, 2009 pm31 1:01 pm

    @Marigen (#28)
    The problem with misinformation is that is it typically 99% truth and 1% poison, and discovering the poison is the difficult part.

    Can you say what specific parts of Matthew’ messages you do not find credible? I realize that he has written a lot, but what part of what you have read does not seem credible to you? Or is it just a feeling you get – that you cannot pin point?

    I’m only asking because it would be interesting if you could pin point some “poison”.

    In Peace

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  30. #30 Robin.
    July 19, 2009 pm31 2:50 pm

    ‘Quad..’#27. I know.. and yet Sheldon Nidle implies that for our own safety we are better off sheltering in Inner Earth for the duration of the ‘changes’.. whilst at the same time getting a bit of shut-eye in a personalised Light-chamber!

    Something feels at odds here..

    I wonder whether there is a plan (not necessarily a ‘negative’ one) to play with the Time-line continuum around Earth.. or the entire Solar System indeed?

    According to a Linear timescale as we understand one, it would have to take hundreds, or possibly thousands of years, for a planetary Eco-system to retore itself to ‘pristine condition’. Yet we are being told that this will (at least to our ‘perception’) appear to occur almost intantaneously.

    Is this because at a 2012 (or pre-2012) ‘Zero-point’ either:
    a). Linear Time collapses and allows an otherwise unpercieved 5D ‘New Earth’ as such, to materialise?
    OR is it because:
    b). We will actually be put into a kind of Light-chamber ‘suspended animation’ whereby it only APPEARS to have happened instantly?

    That’s why it’s ‘tricky’!

    In Light.

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  31. #31 Marigen
    July 19, 2009 pm31 3:08 pm

    I sincerily would like to point you QuadHealer why I feel that, by I can´t. The only thing I can tell you is that when I read some chanellings, what I read just enter in my mind, soul and body and I get this very “warm feelings” but sometimes I read something and I get other feelings, like chills and other…
    I do everyday a lot of research in internet, belive me I read a lot. I don´t think of “poisons” but I think the message is not right, whatever reason that I don´t know.

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  32. #32 QuadHealer
    July 19, 2009 pm31 3:25 pm

    @Marigen with regards to Dr. Bill Deagle (#28)

    He seems to thrive on and focus only on doom and gloom. I highly doubt that we are all doomed with pandemic viruses, food shortages, violent tectonic activity, climate shifts, solar mass ejections, years of power loss rendering us in Stone Age conditions, destruction of all live in the oceans due to pollution, medical martial law or comet strikes.

    Sure vaccinations are dangerous, and I wouldn’t recommend them for anyone.

    What I don’t like about spewing all kinds of possible catastrophes is that people may go into fear, and actually start co-creating these scenarios.

    In Peace

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  33. #33 QuadHealer
    July 19, 2009 pm31 3:34 pm

    @Marigen (#31): Thank you. I appreciate your input. So you feel that Dr. Bill Deagle’s message is true whereas Mathews is “wrong”. Interesting – I feel it is other way round. Oh, well – let’s see what exciting future is ahead!

    In Peace

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  34. #34 QuadHealer
    July 19, 2009 pm31 3:45 pm

    @Robin (#30):
    If we are going to 5D I would think that it is possible to manifest whatever we want much easier and quicker than here (if not instantaneous)…so of those two choices I would pick (a).

    There are also mediums like Rose Sangregorio that claim that the 2012 events have already happened and nothing special will happen 2012/2013 (except our continual evolvement). I don’t know what will happen, but I know for sure that I’m really excited about the future.

    In Peace

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  35. #35 Roboh2012
    July 19, 2009 pm31 8:51 pm

    I came to this site tonight after some absence after I read the latest Matthew message, and remembered what we had all just read from Sheldon Nidle’s last message. I was hoping the topic would come up here, and as usual the members of this site were on top of the subject.

    There is a MAJOR conflict in messages here. I have always enjoyed Nidle’s messages, as they seem to be filled with more than just feel-good-we-are-all-loved tripe. But I also enjoy the messages of Matthew and find them to be believable. He is also supported by Cosmic Awareness, another channeled source I believe.

    So what to believe here? This is not easily reconciled, and cannot be dismissed as a minor “interpretation” difference. I noted one comment on this site under the Nidle message from a regular asking “why bother with the new monetary system and environmental cleanup when everything will be taken down to the studs anyway?” (Not exact quote, from memory, sorry!) I agree with the sentiment, and it was a question that had occurred to me in the past. It makes sense – what’s the point of trying to fix ANYTHING at this point if EVERYTHING is going to be destroyed and rebuilt from scratch??

    So are we to entertain the idea that Nidle has been compromised? If so, for how long? What, if anything, can we believe from him? Or, should we believe that Matthew has been compromised? Both of them CANNOT be right on this, it is too major a difference.

    Now, the Phoenix Journals also support the idea of huge physical changes requiring evacuation. This was “written” some time ago, and we know that many things have changed since then, even major events. Kryon supports this position as well, saying the 1987 Harmonic Convergence (and other subsequent events) cause a change in the overall plans for the planet (i.e. Armageddon won’t happen on this plane). But Esu “Jesus” Emmanual himself is aligned with the Journals…

    So at this point, I am TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY CONFUSED!! Sources I have trusted in the past are giving contradicting information in a major way. SOMEBODY has to be WRONG! HOW CAN WE TELL WHAT IS TRUTH ANYMORE?

    (Hi Robin! Peace and Love to you, my good friend!!)

    Love and Light

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  36. #36 Former Assassin
    July 19, 2009 pm31 10:19 pm

    Your dream struck a chord in my memory. I too vaguely recall a funky looking ship as you say. All I can recall from that dream is being on it and talking to someone on the ship (can’t recall the face). After finding myself on the ground looking up at the ship I remember thinking “Why would anyone make a ship that looked like that?!” I also recall it having an arrow like protrusion sticking out the side and pointing forward.

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  37. #37 jacob
    July 19, 2009 pm31 11:05 pm

    i feel the gfol need to take action fast everyone who is trying to wake the people up is being killed its only getting worse then while thats happening were confused amongst ourselves and the gfol says everythings fine just kick back relax but everythings not fine if a higher power is going to tell me this i want proof the facts the comparables you can never be too sure and mistakes now adays can cost you your life im so fucking pissed how were going i cant stand seeing my own people die because of satan worshipers by the way if the fremasons do win theyll just be killed by satan or the tears their so evil without hearts please make it stop its a living hell.

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  38. #38 light2012
    July 20, 2009 pm31 12:49 am

    dear roboh2012

    if Matthew said true we are in big trouble.if god do not transfer to 80-85 % of today population to another planet.New age never come to this world.

    kryon never said about percents.But said it will be big number peoples leave from earth.Not will be previous arks but it will be heavy.

    But michael said earth changes will take hundreds thousand peoples per earthquake or hurricane or tsunami and said it will continue long years.that means they will take billions to out.

    And it will have to be like that

    so the Matthew 100% liar or try to keep peoples far from panic.

    But another all channels as like ramtha talk about same big lost of life.

    Another question why you try to keep these 80% evil humans this world?Are you happy with them.Maybe you happy but mother earth not happy with them.

    If you ask me I prefer to share world with reptilain darconians instead of humans.Yes draconians torture me everyday but thay are better tham many earth humans.

    really also evil better than many earth humans.

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  39. #39 jacob
    July 20, 2009 pm31 12:59 am

    gfol might just be a distraction…..

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  40. #40 Former Assassin
    July 20, 2009 pm31 1:40 am

    Not convinced that Matthew is accurate. I read in his previous post that “the highly evolved soul that Obama is does not need our defense”. There is NOTHING enlightened or evolved about that man. He has no active role in organizing or deciding anything for the Illuminazi nor is he ignorant of their doings and schemes. He is nothing more than an order taker pawn whose eloquence is thwarted when the teleprompter gives out! He is a MASON and a direct descendant of the 13 Illumanazi bloodlines and NOT TO BE TRUSTED! For anyone to make this man out to be a paragon of change and a protagonist against the dark agenda CANNOT BE TRUSTED! That is a fact. Now, granted I too was taken a bit by the message however, it wasn’t the so called dire predictions that got to me. It was the LIGHTCHAMBER! That seemed to be the thing that threw me off. After some centering and meditation I felt a peace about it and discovered that these light chambers were used extensively in Atlantis and Lemurian times for healing (something I think we all could use a little of). As for the “dire predictions” here’s what I’ve discerned. The earth changing surface events likely won’t take place for a couple more years at least (possibly closer to 2012). Should this be so we would still have a few more years in which this insufferable monetary system would keep its stranglehold on society. I see the removal of this tyrannous system as a significant boon to consciousness as a whole. I believe that a move this potent would be the final nail in the coffin of the dark order. How could they recover from this? Our going into the 5th dimensional Agartha to take refuge will spare ALL of humanity the much need ejection of negativity the planet has accumulated on its surface. If you read Mathew’s channeling some will DEFINIATELY be lost. Who exactly? It’s pretty vague. So, if all would be saved to see earth transformed, where’s the disaster or fear to be found in that? We all live in the same universe and trust is something we are going to have learn to integrate back into our fractured collective consciousness. These channels here I believe to be on the mark.

    It’s been said here that we should “look to the skies where we wait”. They are DEFINIATELY waiting! The striking and highly unnatural geometry in the clouds and chemtrails above me give away, with stunning detail, the shape and overall outline and contour of these inter-dimensionally cloaked craft. No sooner after I placed a deeply heartfelt request for any benevolence to clean up the skies of the chemtrails THEY WERE ACTIVELY REMOVING THEM! Responded quite quickly actually. Soon after this I witnessed something grand. After a meditation I looked up and saw a perfect wide outline of a HEXAGON shaped cloud materialize before my eyes. My inner knowing told me it was an engine and that I’d see one more to the left. There it was. It also told me to look off to the right and there would be more. There were two more hexagons there about the same distance apart as the ones over my head! It is my belief that they were letting me know they were here. I mention this because I’m a newly awakened soul and my awakening has been highly accelerated and profound! My synchronicities are what led me to these channeling’s in the first place. They resonate with me down to core of my being like nothing else. Like you say it’s not just a feel good message.

    I was, at first, skeptical of Sheldon Nidle when I realized he was working with Sirius B energies, which I’ve discovered through Alex Colliers Andromedan contacts, were of a regressive nature. Also, as we all know, he’s not a normal channel. He has implants. Granted, he did submit willingly to the procedure. It just didn’t seem right until I discovered through another synchronicity that the previous conflicts between Sirius A and Sirius B as well as the ancient battle between the Zetas and the Pleadians had ended. So it occurred to me that since Sirius B had been regressive for so long that they probably didn’t even know how to properly channel to us given their likely gross lack of spiritual practice. They do however have incredible technology to aid them in the interim. Besides, the content of the messages was like nothing I had encountered. My soul told me there was REAL info being disseminated here. It hasn’t lied to me yet, that is of course unless I want to be deceived. Obviously not! I trust my Creator to honor a heartfelt request for benevolent guidance unveiling the ACTUAL truth. I have not been disappointed.

    I hope these words help. I speak only for myself when I say I have found my Tao. My inner knowing isn’t one of overconfident understanding rather one of serene coalescence.

    The next solar flare is soon to hit. Let us all intend with the utmost of intensity and focus that our victory over the darkness to so complete as to get them to actively expose THEMSELVES!!! This is 100% possible. I truly believe that this will be the unfolding their demise. Remember, these channeling’s are only a forward projection of OUR collective energies. They’re progress reports and updates. We must hold the thought form for change and progress now like never before! I believe the goal is well within sight if we don’t lose ours!

    Namaste!

    Live in your excitement!

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  41. #41 jacob
    July 20, 2009 pm31 1:54 am

    i feel i want to evolve in the chambers but not now i dont feel right meditating in a place like where i live or evolving yet it would put to much pressure on me but i will definitly ascend when vacuation starts besides i need something keeping me busy for 14months lol ps i feel mathew is putting his opponions into facts.

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  42. #42 QuadHealer
    July 20, 2009 pm31 3:08 am

    @Light2012 (#38)

    Reality is in constant change, and in these times things are changing very rapidly. Any older channelings that may have been spot on when they were written (meaning they convey the most likely outcome at the time), are unlikely to apply now. It is therefore not possible to compare old channelings with new ones (there will be differences). The Armageddon type scenarios may at some time have been needed, but it is no longer.

    I do not understand how you can say that if Matthew is telling the truth, then we are in big trouble. This can only be the case if you pick and choose in what he is saying and hold it up against something else.

    His messages are uplifting all while not avoiding to talk about the darkness. He talks about vaccinations damage, chemtrails, suppression of news, manipulations of money and other grim things that have been put in place to keep us down.

    Naturally he does not want to put people in a panic state, which is why he stresses the reason for these events (or that it will be changed). I do not think he is holding anything back to avoid panic. But naturally I cannot say that his channelings are 100% true – I can only say what I feel they are.

    >>”If you ask me I prefer to share world with reptilain darconians instead of humans.Yes draconians torture me everyday but they are better than many earth humans.”

    Are you developing Stockholm syndrome? So you would rather be tortured than spend time with humans? You must really have bad experiences with humans. You cannot say that a certain race is better or worse than another. People are being pushed and pressured, and some are overpowered by their fears and lower vibrations, but does that really make them “evil”.

    I was at a 45min sitting with a medium Saturday, and I must say that things I thought were random in my life all had a very specific purpose. This only strengthens my belief that there is a reason for everything, and everything serves a purpose (although randomness does occur).

    In Peace

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  43. #43 jacob
    July 20, 2009 pm31 3:21 am

    i still think the 14month chamber process will be put a go by the gfol where else are going to put 7billion humans during a polor shift?lol

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  44. #44 Robin.
    July 20, 2009 pm31 4:05 am

    ‘Roboh2012′.. Welcome back!
    Hi all!
    Indeed ‘Ted’ seems to have cranked up a similar thread over @ the ‘Ascended Masters’ site!

    Difficult one..

    SaLuSa recently advised us to look for similarities between channellers to give us an indication of the ‘Truth’. Perhaps it is now a matter of seeing which way this particular coin lands, by thus observing future messages?

    I sense that Matthew’s message was aimed largely at the ‘Pro-Armageddon’ crew.. he makes it quite clear that there are to be NO major destructions and therefore no ‘Evacuations’.. but this begs the question ‘What constitutes an Evacuation?’

    To my mind this implies ‘Mass relocation and removal from the Planet’.

    As we know, Bellringer & the Phoenix Journals are now ‘old hat’ but still harping on about evacuation!
    Perhaps Matthew’s words are designed to assist in changing the consciousness of that ‘Bible Belt’ crew?

    Nidle however, implies that we are due for a ‘reunion’ with and indeed long awaited assistance from, our Inner Earth brothers and sisters.. does entering ‘their’ realm by invitation constitute and ‘Evacuation’? Probably not!

    There may be a difference worth noting here.

    At the same time Nidle openly admits to carrying an ‘implant’ to amplify and attune his otherwise weak natural Telepathic abilities. Does this then leave him susceptible to ‘compromise’? Possibly yes! At the same time it (the implant) is supposed to cut out his own personal ‘input/interpretation’ into the messages.

    I still sense that Obama walks a thin line but is driven by a Soul urge to transform the Governance Systems of the Planet. I suspect that there is one ALLmighty battle going on behind the scenes between a now throttled Illuminati, desperate to bring fear and destruction and an Obama led camp, prepared to entrap the Cabal in it’s own mesh of lies and deceit. To succeed Obama HAS to ‘play their game’ to an extend deep enough, to both avoid assassination AND bring to Light the New!

    An animal in it’s death throes is at it’s most dangerous!

    I seriously think that two factors have surprised the GF. One: That ‘We’ have elevated ourselves toward the Light to the remarkable extent that we have and Two: That the Illuminati have hung on to their game for as long as they have!

    We are determined beings whichever way you look at us! Let us use that strength positively.

    By their own admission the GF have NEVER overseen such an in-depth and complex ‘Ascension Program’ anywhere, as is being enacted here.. THEY are also learning SO much from the ‘diverse’ ways of the Earth Human!

    This implies that the potential situation for us and the actions to be taken by the GF has had to change continuously over the last 20 years.. and is continuing to do so, AS we speak!

    Overlay this with the full respect that Universal Law demands for our Freewill here and with the constant ‘updating’ of new Divine Decrees to fit this everchanging scenario and it becomes easier to see why there is still some confusion!

    We ARE doing well, but at the same time there are MANY who are still ‘asleep’.. we are just beginning to see the first glimpses of a Quantum Universe. Comparatively, The GF must have a clear grasp of this immense ‘New’ facet. Perhaps as recently as one year ago, the prospective use of ‘Light Chambers’ was not even considered ‘relevant’ to our ‘case’?

    Perhaps new and recent Divine Decrees to ‘Get on with it’ are now rendering this course of action necessary?

    It is the MISuse of Money and Technology (which is what destroyed Atlantis) that needs to be rectified.. they are otherwise wonderful mediums of Energy Exchange and Universal Growth IF used correctly. It seems that the GF and any true Galactic Society have ‘outgrown’ the use of Money, as we eventually will, but however still rely upon Advanced Technologies to transport themselves around the Universe and if necessary, to assist US!

    I feel we should be careful with the ‘Everything is gonna be wiped clean.. so there is no point in doing anything’ scenario. The ‘wiping clean’ can ONLY happen once we are ready for it! It IS up to us to learn to change our own reality and prepare adequately for it. As infant Co-creators, this at first HAS to be done in incremental baby-steps, or we just wouldn’t be able to ‘handle’ it!

    SO.. rectifying the long held control of World Finances (by the Illuminati) IS one of the first items on the list. It is clear to me that a vast percentage of the world’s population are still suffering unecessarily from a ‘Poverty Consciousness’ condition, deliberately installed Aeons ago, to PREVENT our successful Spiritual Ascension. This must be rectified before we can move on.. en masse!

    ‘Former Assassin’.. (great post btw!).. this “insufferable monetary system” is on it’s frigging ARSE!! It HAS already fallen over.. just look at it! There is only a desperate veneer of cohesiveness remaining.. I suspect it is under cover of this veneer that the New System is now very, very close to being installed.

    When you remember that to the dark ‘Money is Power’ then you can easily see WHY they are so keen NOT to see it crumble.. why they would rather squirt ‘swine-flu’ at us and try to enact WWIII than ‘give up’.. they do not know HOW to give up because they do not know HOW to LOVE! I think it may be their ‘resillience’ to Love that was originally somewhat mis-calculated and under-estimated by the GF!

    There are two power-eclipses coming up today/tomorrow and Aug 5th.

    (I just recieved this:
    “..there are opportunities for huge change coming up soon. We are about to experience the longest, most powerful solar eclipse of the 21st Century on July 21, 7:35 p.m. Pacific time, at the final degree of Cancer. Eclipses represent a profound shift in direction.. Freedom is imminent at this eclipse.. a death knell for the old ways. If you’re clinging to old emotional, familial or societal patterns, it’s time to let them go..”).

    Also a Global ‘Fire the Grid II’ meditation on July 28th. May I suggest that we take our part in these events as consciously as possible and use them to strengthen and establish our OWN dominant ‘Unified Field’ effect here.. if we first ASK for assistance, THEN it can (by Universal Law) actually be given!

    We are potentially highly adaptable beings and could surely handle the installation of a new Globally Secure Mineral-based Finacial System, the appearance in our skies of GF Ships, a conscious dedication to Universal Peace AND a turbo-charging of our DNA/RNA sets, all within the short space of a couple of years, withOUT freaking out!

    As has been stated to us many times here, the trick is to remain centered, remain calm and to remain focussed upon how WE wish our future to be! It is probably immaterial which ‘route’ to that successful future is actually followed.. be it with or without the assistance of off-world technology!

    I like this:

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    A DREAM OF AN ‘INDIGO CHILD’. 12 yrs old at writing.

    “All my friends and lots of other people that I don’t know were in a big
    field, having a party. Then I could see the whole World, as if from space,
    and at each pole was a huge white light, with lines going from each pole
    round the Earth. Then I was back in the field again, and me and my friends
    were getting ready for something, and we were finding seats in the
    trees above the river. Then we looked at the lights to either side of us,
    and they were getting bigger and closer.

    The white light was moving, and enveloping the world as it moved,
    transforming everything into light. When it came into contact with
    People, all their sadness and confusion disappeared, like it dissolved
    and they were pure light beings again.

    It felt like I was being told that this was (going to be) happening, and (that) I would not have to wait very long.

    It was a good dream.

    Love Lindsay.”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    This represents a picture of what I feel is quite likely a ’2012 scenario’! It seems that THEN, when we AND the planet are ready, the Big Switch gets thrown to the ‘ON’ position and that there is the potential, as a direct result of a once in 26,000 year Solar/Central Galactic alignment, for an instant ‘morph’ to a 5D-reality situation here. The further we can ‘evolve’ prior to that point, the further we can subsequently be ‘catapulted’ into our own Lighted Futures!

    If our Planet and our DNA/consciousness are NOT in harmony with this ‘rebirth’ then there is just no way that we can actually physically experience it!
    It’d be like trying to watch a movie, when the screen and the projector haven’t even been built yet!

    SO.. let’s build it.. and project upon it with all the help we require & ASK for!

    In Light.

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  45. #45 jacob
    July 20, 2009 pm31 5:47 am

    it doesnt hurt to have help i can see the wake up messages spreading across youtube i love it^^

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  46. #46 Fergie
    July 20, 2009 pm31 5:57 am

    Good morning ALL! Very good conversation and I think we have stumbled upon this contradiction in the messages for a reason.
    Robin, I think that you mentioned a while back that at some point we would move beyond the messages? Well, maybe the confusion is a fundamental step in that direction…I don’t know. Personally, the surface destruction scenario doesn’t resonate within me. I am certainly not worried about it and in fact I feel that the earth is getting more beautiful with each passing day. Sure we have really messed it up and there is a great deal of the environment to repair but I think it’s getting better!! Not worse…so why do we need to destroy it? It seems completely illogical to me?

    BTW: nice to hear from you Roboh2012. Don’t be a stranger your input is greatly appreciated.

    I came across this video and I thought it may be of interest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGA9ZUEa3ZY

    These guys are great and they make me want to go out and do the same thing…I bet you more and more people will be doing this. Have a great Monday…much LOVE Wink

    EVERYTHING IS OK.

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  47. #47 jacob
    July 20, 2009 pm31 6:19 am

    fergie what do you mean destroy?the gfol said in a post awhile back they will scrap our old cities and replace with nature and little or no structures will be nedded.

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  48. #48 Robin.
    July 20, 2009 pm31 6:51 am

    Hi Fergie.. thanks for the reminder! True.. maybe once we have risen above being TOLD what is or isn’t going to happen we will have succeeded in being ‘in charge’ of what does or does not ACTUALLY happen!

    The spiritual difference between being adolescent teenagers and responsible Adults perhaps?

    I don’t see it as “a need to destroy it” (the Planet), so much as an essential Metamorphosis that the Planet herself needs to go through in order to shed the negative pupae of the past and don her shining new ‘Butterfly’ garments of the future!

    There may be some shaking and quaking and loss of life as a result, but nothing that wasn’t previously written into individual Soul Contracts and nothing resembling the ferocity that would have otherwise been necessary had we not succeeded in turning to the Light as successfully as we have!

    Great Vid. I suppose if you preached ‘Everything is NOT OK’ they’d leave you alone!

    In Light.

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  49. #49 Robin.
    July 20, 2009 pm31 11:40 am

    PS. Fergie.. This just in from Archangel Michael:

    “..”Beloved masters of Light, it is time for you to take stock, or an inventory of sorts, to allow you to chart your progress, to examine any new concepts that may not serve your highest purpose or enhance your spiritual well being. Many of you have become too dependent on the knowledge, rituals, methodology or teachings of others. Answer these questions from your heart/soul center, if you will: Do you trust another’s channeled information as higher wisdom than your own; do you authenticate or validate all outside information within your own heart/soul center? Do you constantly seek a new method, a new herb, a new elixir or gadget to accelerate your light frequencies or jump-start your spiritual awareness without your participation–a magic solution, in other words?”

    Hhmm.. maybe time for some of us to wean ourselves gently OFF the security blanket of comforting channelled info and time to begin relying instead upon our OWN intuitions, beliefs and wishes?

    Spot on!

    In Light.

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  50. #50 light2012
    July 20, 2009 pm31 9:50 pm

    dear quadhealer

    I just believe my heart and my feelings.Not any channeling.

    If you happy continue with humans(earth humans but they are not human .They are worst than evil.But Another humanoids live another planets I can accept them as human.

    But earth humans(they are evil)not real human.How real human like to torture animals or humans.How real peoples remove the skins of animals alive or boil them alive as we see china and some ather countries(at least they are total 3 billion)and another 3 billion just do not do that reason of laws.Max there are 1 billion real human in this world

    if you want a list bad behaviors of humans I need hundreds of pages to write them.But if you ask good behaviors of human 1 page is too much.

    So if you happy continue with these evils.If god said these humans enough level to ascend that is not my god.

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