Message from SaLuSa for 14-October-2009 by Mike Quinsey
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SaLuSa 14-October-2009
Perhaps somewhat sooner than you might have anticipated, the first meaningful contact is soon to be announced. The news is already spreading like wildfire, and it is going to be a moment when history will be made. You have reached a new stage in this cycle that will see you move even further ahead, and all the promise of a new age will begin to unfold before your eyes. Does it not seem appropriate that at a time when you will be preparing to celebrate Christmas and the New Year, you will have another reason that will bring joy to so many of you. Between now and the end of the year the first official announcement of our existence will go ahead, and none other than President Obama will sit at that table. Over a period of time we had been anticipating a more open contact, but in keeping up with your likely re-action it has been decided to take a formal approach.
The message that you are to receive, whether direct or through President Obama will set the stage for a series of announcements. These will reveal the facts about us and our long relationship with you, and put aside the false and distorted stories. You should have reached this point many years ago, but a deliberate plan to conceal the truth has caused much confusion. In the last cycle during the Atlantean and Lemurian times we regularly visited their civilisations. It is quite normal to do so when a civilisation reaches a certain level of understanding, and is ready to receive us. In your case it is imperative that we start working together as soon as possible, as there is much to do to ensure the plan for Ascension is carried forward. You must know by now the nature of the preparations for it, and we shall be able to help you speed up the process. The year 2012 will remain a crucial point in your evolution, and from thereon it will continue in the higher dimensions.
Allowing this information out so early is to give those hearing of this news sufficient time to consider what it means to them. It will certainly change the outlook on many matters, not least of all the procuring of world peace which has unceasingly been sought in your prayers and thoughts. It is a signal to face in a different direction that leads you ever onwards towards the Light. There will have to be a great change of attitude amongst your leaders, as our part in your future becomes made known to Humankind. We come not as some marauding aliens that have set their sights on taking over your Earth, but more as your servants upon the orders of the Creator. The plan is in place and it will complete this cycle with Ascension.It is your great opportunity to ascend and leave duality because of your dedication, to uplifting yourselves into the higher dimensions of Light.
After patiently waiting for the signs of change they are now about to come to fruition, and there will be absolutely no going back to the old ways. Naturally the dark forces will make life as difficult as possible for those charged with bringing the disclosures to you. However, one thing we will not allow is interference to the degree that it stops the revelations coming out. It is your time now to show what you can do to support the Light, and those Lightworkers who are at the helm of what is to be broadcast. Send out your love to protect them, and see them enveloped in the Golden White Light.
You can expect some negative reactions to what is coming, but again there is time to deal with them before they can cast a shadow over the event. The final proof of our existence will be undeniable, and put paid to the scaremongers and their false stories about us. We will soon be able to assure you all that we come as your benevolent friends, and that we along with you are one galactic family. Why would we otherwise spend so much time progressing your evolution, and keep our distance so as not to frighten people. It would have been easy enough for us to make a peaceful colonisation of your planet, as you could not have prevented it if we had wished to do so. Our mission is as always stated, one to bring you to First Contact and prepare you and the Earth for Ascension. With that comes the fulfilment of all promises to restore your freedom and rights currently denied you. Also, to bring you into a new technological age where all your needs are supplied. Finally and perhaps the most important, is to guide you through the higher dimensions until you reach full consciousness.
The ripples of excitement already move amongst you, and any apprehension will soon be overcome. Nevertheless, please allow time for developments because as fast as we can move towards our open landings, there is much to do to create the conditions we require to go ahead. Everything has to start somewhere, and the announcements about us will clear the way for greater co-operation between us, as we have all of the benefits lined up for you. Although we have previously made contacts with your past Presidents, this will be the first time that our offers to help you have been accepted. Bear in mind that we have a policy of non-interference, and have no desire to influence your freewill beyond carrying out the Will of the Creator.
We shall progressively come more into your lives as the months roll by, and we see co-operation between countries coming at an unprecedented level. However, first there must be changes that result in the more spiritually inspired souls finding their way into government. We cannot entrust our projects to dubious characters, or those who have proven to be corrupt. So you see Dear Ones, you must make allowances for the groundwork to be completed before you expect too much from us. It is all there under our safekeeping and no one person or group will be able to prevent the completion of our tasks. Our security is way beyond your comprehension, but we still need to set the scene so that all proceeds according to plan.
I am SaLuSa from Sirius, just one of millions of individuals who are members of the Galactic Federation. Along with our technology that surpasses anything you have at present, we shall speed along at an astonishing rate. It is the sheer numbers of personnel and craft that are available, that will seemingly perform miracles. We send you endless Light and Love to lift you up.
Thank you SaLuSa.
Mike Quinsey.
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October 14, 2009 am31 2:25 am
hm so the next try to reveal your existance should be done by this year … let´s focus on this one, maybe it is just for once working out!
salusa you said in jan/feb that our society will collapse until the end of this year … i didn´t forget and i´m still hoping that it´s gona happen
anyway, sooner or later our currency system will break down … if you take a look at japan … and this will be a very giant leap for mankind, without help from extraterrs
DISCLOSURE!!!
LIGHT!!
WISDOM!!
LOVE!!
October 14, 2009 am31 2:48 am
I’m totally confused right now…I thought first contact would only happen after ascension.
Nonetheless I’m excited.
October 14, 2009 am31 3:16 am
@philfromB:
One of the points was to help us with ascension, so having “first” contact after ascension would be a bit too late, but yes you will meet other 5th dimensional beings once you ascend (if you choose to this time round, but there is no hurry – you can wait for the next 26,000 year cycle to end if you wish
Please bear in mind that they are *not* saying that first contact will be now, but rather that it will be publicly know that they exist:
>>“Between now and the end of the year the first official announcement of our existence will go ahead”
In Light & Peace
October 14, 2009 am31 3:19 am
Now we have a definitive timeframe: between now and Christmas. That’s essentially two months!
Yahoo!!!
Peace, Love, and Light!
October 14, 2009 am31 3:21 am
As I was leaving a response to SaLuSa’s Oct 12th message, it seems a new message came up for the 14th. I have to admit the new message seems more clear. At last, a definitive timeline SaLuSa. Thank you -I wrote:
” You are now stepping up to a new level, and will enjoy a life of happiness and joy free from the stress and worries you now experience. Everything you need to be comfortable and safe, and able to enjoy your freedom will come to everyone. The provisions to enable all of these commitments to be met will be handled by us. Indeed, we are ready now and your future is assured.”
Will come to everyone? Will be handled by us? We are ready now? -There is something about SaLuSA’s messages that are sounding too Messianic. For some time now her (I’ve always taken SaLuSa to be female) words have been leaving me cold. Even suspicious. -If you are indeed “ready now”, then show us some respect as co-creators of this reality and initiate first contact. I for one do feel “ready with an open mind”, but your unwillingness to have open, face to face communication with us is becoming tiresome. Come on! 25,000 children a day die of starvation on this planet. More than half the people on this planet live on a couple of dollars a day. Enough of the empty promises! If you want us to continue to place are trust in you, then have a modicum of faith in us! Let’s stand arm-n-arm and face the shift of the Gaian Matrix together. No need to go through our corrupt Governments, or Channels for that matter. Come directly to our people! We are as ready as we are going to be. The only question left is, are you?
“The changes that are coming are known in detail to us, and they will sweep away the dross and remnants of a period that will be best forgotten.”-Really? If these changes are known to you in detail, then why leave us out of the mix? Enough already! From the depths of my soul I do long for open contact with our Galactic neighbors, but as of now, “The Galactic Federation” is raising far more questions than answers. And as far as I can tell, the only place to manifest true change is in THE NOW. Not yesterday, not tomorrow, but right here, right now. Enough of your words. Show me your feet. It’s time for action!
Inlakesh (I am another you, you are another me)
October 14, 2009 am31 3:47 am
@quadhealer
lol-no, I think I’m gonna take my chances this time around.
October 14, 2009 am31 3:51 am
@Stick: Be at ease. I, too, feel like a horse at the starting gate of the Greatest Race Ever, yet I must wait until the starting gun is fired. Difficult position it is for which patience is called.
All things happen in divine time. I have learned that lesson. I don’t necessarily like it, however, the wisdom in the timing of certain things doesn’t escape me.
We have all been experiencing this sort of stuff for millenia. What difference will a few bits more of time make?
The difference is in the numbers of people who will awaken more willingly than not.
One cannot “rush” that which one cannot understand – we simply do not have the perspective needed to call for the “immediate” implementation of “these” plans as you would like.
Too often the Human Race has rushed (look at our “consumerism” if you need an example) and not fully understood the consequences.
If your impatience is to be catered, would you be willing to suffer the consequences of mistiming?
Peace, Love, and Light!
P.S. While atrocious, the deaths, poverty, etc., are all by Soul Contract agreement. I don’t like that someone must go through all that, however, that decision was not mine to make. There was obviously a need for such agreements, or they wouldn’t have to happen. All we can do is work toward a day when such a commitment isn’t necessary any longer.
October 14, 2009 am31 4:59 am
OMG! Should I put Christmas lights on my roof that spell out “LAND HERE”? haha…kidding.
Good morning ALL,
I just got back from my sister’s wedding in Savannah GA (totally amazing and unique city) and this is the first message I have read. It was awesome to have this as my return message. Wow…should be interesting!
Much LOVE
October 14, 2009 am31 6:15 am
“25,000 children a day die of starvation on this planet. ”
stick?
What are they doing? Growing them and betting on which ones make it to the other round without food?
What kind of people do that?
Be serious humanity. Gain some self-control first. You are not the only people on earth. Humanity will not extinct if you don’t spend all your energy making children and doing only that. What will the children do for you if you have not solved the mystery of who you are first in this universe. Of what this life is about.
What kind of madness is this?
October 14, 2009 am31 6:58 am
It tis time for music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZiEbfewefU
October 14, 2009 am31 9:32 am
I predict that nothing will happen.
Maybe when my prediction comes true, you can all blindly follow my messages, too…
October 14, 2009 am31 11:47 am
WooHoo! it’s about time! I am so excited and it sounds like everyone else it too! We won’t have 1st contact this year but at least we’ll have the announcement! Now all my friends won’t think I’m crazy anymore…lol
October 14, 2009 am31 11:48 am
You are so wrong!
October 14, 2009 am31 12:01 pm
The only thing I never liked is when et’s ask our government for permission. Our government does not represent the people and has not for so many years. However i see the wisdom in this kind of announcement. There are the majority of the people that believe our government and depend on the govt. for info regarding their safety. When obama makes the announcment i am sure a lot of fear ridden people will more openly accept that they really are benevolent et’s.I hope befor the holidays as this would be great when family are together to discuss and make plans for our new world.
October 14, 2009 am31 1:10 pm
What do you all make of this?! Why is there so much political talk within these messages lately!? If the planet is as bad as the letter below implies, then what are we (they) waiting for?! Why do we have to wait for NESARA to be announced?! In the letter below it says that it would only take 15 minutes to evacuate the planet…so why wait for some political postering and re-arranging?! This, I don’t understand, nor trust!
Thanks!
*****************
From: T
To: Patrick Bellringer
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 2:27 AM
Subject: CAN WE ALTER/SOFTEN COMING EARTH CHANGES?
That’s a good question. It is also often asked! So you are not alone in needing to know this.
I’ve been told that we were warned in the 50′s to get our act together; stop nukes, destroying rain forest, polluting the waters, air and land, killing the animals and all out ceasing of war. Many things were on the list. I believe Ashtar Command gave the warning, numerous times.
It’s rather obvious that people here did not heed said warnings, and in fact, things got steadily worse. They can see some are trying, but not enough people responded. So they were able to change what would happen to them, but not the planet as a whole. Some have learned!!!
But the point of no return was 1986, and still we are at war, polluting, raping the planet and the negativity on the planet is at an all time high, thanks to Obama, Bush, Bush, and Clinton. The upward swing we started has gone sadly downward.
Things here have never been this bad, in the history of the planet, they tell me.
So… right now, it would be too little, too late. The point of no return was reached years ago. So we are most definitely well into overtime and hanging on by our toenails!!! The foretold poleshift will happen, and we are right on the verge now. I’m stunned the planet hasn’t shifted already. She has been given permission to do her thing. All that is left is the evacuation process. And for the record, it takes only 15 minutes to evacuate the whole planet. Once they flip the switch, it is done.
There are millions of ships out there (looking like stars!) ready to go to work. I understand they are on red/red alert because of the incident with the moon. People live on our moon, are you aware of that? Yes, I’ve met some!
Anyhow, hang in there. With any luck, and a lot of determination, NESARA will get announced, and we will be gone.
October 14, 2009 am31 2:27 pm
@WakeyWakey: This message seems fishy. I haven’t seen anything else anywhere else that speaks to this. As far as I know, there will be no mass evacuations as they are no longer necessary, etc. What is the source of T’s information? Sorry, but this seems completely false to me.
October 14, 2009 am31 2:31 pm
It is interesting that this message was posted on Oct 14th, exactly one year after the predicted mass sighting. We should also remember that Mike Quincey and the Galactic Federation confirmed that an event would indeed happen on the 14th. Now I suppose that’s water under the bridge, so let’s focus on the present prediction. I feel it is important to note that there are other whistle-blowers (check Project Camelot) that have said that Obama will announce the presence of extra-terrestrials before the years end. That’s not to say it doesn’t make sense that an event of this magnitude wouldn’t come from several sources, I guess we’ll just have to wait and see. I really hope Quincey is not just latching on to someone else’s ideas, the way he seemed to do with Blossom Goodchild. -I also agree, despite my ultimately positive feelings about Obama, that there is something seriously suspect about this announcement coming through the Government. Who knows. We’ll have to see how it feels. Either way this is going to be an interesting ride. Believe it.
Inlakesh~
October 14, 2009 am31 6:20 pm
SaLuSa you are one hell of a poet and a speechwriter. I do not want to wait to meet you, but I can and I will. The opening sentence you wrote here made me expect sometime this month, particularly when you said the news was already spreading like wildfire. However you clarified by saying the announcements would take place by the end of the year. Month after month your messages instill so much hope and expectation, only to reveal more hope and expectation. You galactics must have perfected language or something. I can only hope that the results of first contact will be so mind-blowing as to make up for all of the injustice of the third dimension and more.
October 14, 2009 am31 9:03 pm
LET THE TRUTH COME OUT….? WHEN YOU KNOW WHO EACH PERSON IS, ON MOTHER EARTH, THEN WARS STOPS, HATERED STOPS,RELIGION COMES TOGETHER AS ONE.!!!!!! WE MUST KNOW FIRST, OUR PAST, AND WHO WE REALLY ARE, BEFORE WE TAKE THE NEXT STEP, ON OUR EVOLUTION PATH…. JUST KNOW, THAT EACH AND EVERY-ONE OF US, ARE TRUE GODS, READY TO TAKE THE NEXT STEP-UP, ON THE PROGRESS, OF OUR PATH AND CONSCIOUSNES…WE ARE ONE , IN HEART AND MIND….WE ARE THE MASTERS GOING HOME…..LOVE & LIGHT..CHEERS TO ALL.
October 14, 2009 am31 9:55 pm
BEFORE END OF THIS YEAR? ARE YOU SURE?NOT GAME THIS TIME RIGHT?BEFORE END OF 2009?IS IT RIGHT?NOT 2019 RIGHT?2009…..!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 14, 2009 am31 10:23 pm
I am so bored with this shit, it’s like when they finally
show up it be like “Oh no it’s those lame ass clowns from
space” so what and big deal bla bla bla———ki ya
October 14, 2009 am31 10:40 pm
only 15 min to evacuate 7 billion people?
wow,that’s a record!
I dont believe that Obama is the most useful candidate for first contact,for a variety of reasons
Americans are hated in the world,they are believed to be violent and warlike,they claimed to be the sole superpower,thus alying yourself with them will trigger a negative reaction towards you,etc
Romania is much more suited,we have a Pleiadian embassy here since the 70s
October 14, 2009 am31 11:14 pm
i have been waiting on this since last years big dissapointment it took me months before i started reading the messages again i can tell you now if this does’nt happen i will never read another one. mr quinsey you better be right this time. it’s not fair to give us all this hope just to let us down we depend on you.
October 14, 2009 am31 11:14 pm
There is soooooo much hot air and self-righteousness on this forum…
I want to vomit.
Everybody likes to think they are good.
October 14, 2009 am31 11:20 pm
To: the sped man
When this Mike Quinsey prediction fails, click on the following link. If you are honest with yourself, you will NOT be disappointed (like you are with this alien stuff):
http://www.olrl.org/prophecy/goodsuccess.shtml -
October 15, 2009 am31 1:36 am
WELL WELL WELL, OH WELL.
October 15, 2009 am31 1:43 am
From what I have gathered, This world is being run by a
crime family and everyone knows most of their names, they
are the wolves in sheeps clothing and doing all and
everything they possibly can to deterr deliveries,
anouncements and the like. They would cut your throat in
your sleep if they thought it would serve their purpose and
that is no exageration. I wish you all some level of peace.
I really apologize for the sad state of affairs that we all
must contend with at this time. It is quite sad.
October 15, 2009 am31 1:59 am
Quite sad indeed !
October 15, 2009 am31 2:01 am
We WILL overcome!!
There was never a doubt!!
October 15, 2009 am31 2:19 am
all of you better quit reading quinsey bs when nothing happens this december… even if he makes 100 messages explaining his excuse… like the dark cabal found out or something retarded… if nothing happens, that’s it.
October 15, 2009 am31 2:54 am
@ duck
What a lot of QUACK!!
Doubt your doubts!!
Face your fears!!
We are eternal!!
Death is part of the process!!
Namaste’
October 15, 2009 am31 5:28 am
THANK-YOU LUKESKI FOR THAT COMMENT.!…..WE ARE ALL HERE, TO SUPPORT EACH-ANOTHER,,,WE MUST TRUST EACH OTHER, AND LET THE INNER SELF SHINE….THINGS WILL TURN OUT WONDERFUL…..YOU KNOW WHY,,BECAUSE WE ARE ALL BEAUTIFUL-SOULS….IT,S LIKE A GAME ,YOU PLAY..YOU NEED EACH-OTHER TO WIN THE GAME….eg, (football,basketball,volleyball.ETC ONCE YOU HAVE WON THE GAME,YOU FEEL PART OF SOMETHING-BIG.!!! DOOOO YOU KNOW , WHAT PART THAT IS OF YOU. YOU ARE THE UNIVERSE, AND EVERYTHING THAT IS AND WILL….YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AROUND.? SO THE PROOF THAT YOU NEED,,,IS,IT,S YOU,, THAT ITS WAITING FORRRRRR!!!!! LOVE &LIGHT, CHEERS
October 15, 2009 am31 6:40 am
The reason for so much political talk in these channeled messages is clear: Sheldon Nidle has a masters degree in Government from an accredited US academic institution. I don’t know about you, but my alert flags go up right there. Putting that aside, I do like to give the benefit of doubt, but Sheldon could settle the whole thing immediately if he were to show us his implants. He has stated clearly, that he has been given them by the extraterrestrials. I’ll settle for a copy of the image. Sounds like this alone would shed proof positive and allow us to continue to flock to his suggestions. Am I asking for too much?
October 15, 2009 am31 7:53 am
@duane: But this message is from Mike Quinsey?
October 15, 2009 am31 7:55 am
wow, i came here this morning, read the latest messages and now don’t know quite what to make of it! what is the truth?! without spins and agendas (hidden and seen); lives depend on the truth!
so,
what is it?!
how do we find it?
when we do, how do we trust it?
what measuring stick do we use to discern it?
if it is inside ourselves, how do we unlease it?
if our minds are being manipulated by modified food, chemicals in the air and water, and other anomolies, then how, pray tell, do we cut through all the bs to find the truth?
WHERE IS IT? WHEN IS ALL THIS GOING TO GET BETTER? WHY IS NOW NOT A WORD THE GALACTICS USE>
NOW…NOW….NOW….NOW…NOW…
October 15, 2009 am31 7:58 am
to bob why do you conspiracy freaks bother coming on here and saying this won’t happen all you guys do is spread fear and talk about govt conspiracies like anyone cares stop talking about conspiracies and do something about it you guys act like your on some great crusade to help everyone out by telling them how corrupt everything is if you are so concerend grab your gun and you do the rising up yourself it’s funny that your so quick to tell everyone that this is bs but then you want everyone to beleive you and the bs your spreading atleast the people who want this to happen have hope while you guys have already given up.
October 15, 2009 am31 8:01 am
and yeah i have my doubts theres nothing wrong with being cautious but without hope for a better tomorrow then theres no point in anything.
October 15, 2009 am31 8:33 am
It is not a dilema if its true or not. If there is eny dilema it s because SaLusa tell us the same thing than David Wilcock says in coast to coast radio show. UFO disclosure will hapend for shure it s a fact and “SaLusa” is this advantage.
October 15, 2009 am31 9:20 am
Jesus said,
” I come to give peace, but not as the world gives it.”
Maybe all of the people here who are talking about being confused can think on that for a moment.
October 15, 2009 am31 9:23 am
The “alien messages” read very much like the publications of late 19th century science fiction magazines.
If you read them, and then read these messages, you would see where Mike Quinsey gets his influence from.
Maybe it would show you how goofy this stuff really is.
October 15, 2009 am31 9:27 am
@QuadHealer –
I’m not sure if you noticed, but Mike Quinsey and Sheldon Nidle are in the same company, ie: Copyright © 2009 GalacticMessages.com. They are part of the same agenda. Two peas in a pod. Click and Klack. Wallace and Grommit. Obama and Zbigniew Brzezinski.
October 15, 2009 am31 9:28 am
You try to interpret the times and the world through the eyes of what these people tell you to believe.
Here is my challenge to you all:
Stop reading these messages for a while (and anything like it) for about a month. Live in reality for a few weeks, and then come back here and read his “latest” message.
If you can do that, you will see how asinine it is.
He rehashes the same old crap, over, and over, and over, and over…
Read the messages from one year, or two, or three years ago, and compare them to more recent ones.
You will notice that there is always this sense of urgency in his messages.
If that alone does not show you how ridiculous this all is, then I have a bridge in New York City to sell you…
October 15, 2009 am31 9:41 am
@BOB
I wholeheartedly concur.
This is CIA MK-Ultra mind-controlled rubbish to fool the people and create negative energy through confusion and fear.
October 15, 2009 am31 10:38 am
@duane:
>>”I’m not sure if you noticed, but Mike Quinsey and Sheldon Nidle are in the same company, ie: Copyright © 2009 GalacticMessages.com. They are part of the same agenda.”
I was merely trying to understand how you connected the two. I see, so if multiple sources are published at the same place that makes them part of the same agenda. So if I quote 20 sources on my website that makes them all part of the same agenda. That is indeed a very interesting view.
>>” CIA MK-Ultra mind-controlled rubbish”
So Mike Quinsey and Sheldon Nidle are part of the MK-ultra mind control? Nobody is forcing you to read this *and* make ridiculing comments.
I find it amazing that people will spend time reading and even commenting multiple times on forums that have opinions so incredibly far from their own beliefs.
It would be like me going on a Scientology forum and trying to tell them how wrong they all are. What would the point be in that? I could not possibly accomplice anything, except show how intolerant and/or arrogant I am myself.
October 15, 2009 am31 10:46 am
Good morning All,
Things are going to get wacky now and it’s easy to lose the connection to your higher self. I believe that the folks who regularly post here have been doing their homework, right? Don’t let discordant energies draw you in…stay focused and connected with the higher part of yourself.
Remember We Are All One…everyone is entitled to their opinion. Love everyone as yourself. At the very least, remember what your mother told you, if you can’t say anything nice than don’t say anything
We have much work to do and it probably won’t be very easy. Stay strong!
Peace and Much Love
October 15, 2009 am31 10:47 am
@Quad: Haven’t you yet learned the utter ridiculousness in responding to the trolls?
They are here for two reasons: 1) to attempt to diparage this site and its messages; 2) because, deep down, they do resonate with these messages and that part of them that does is attempting to get through the dross. Quite the inner conflict and how interesting.
However, responding to them simply goads them on. Not a good thing. Those of us who know, know, and that’s all that really matters.
The closer the messages are to providing a greater reality, the worse the trolls will become.
October 15, 2009 am31 10:51 am
@Jon M.
>>”Haven’t you yet learned the utter ridiculousness in responding to the trolls?”
Forgive me – I am smiling as I write – you are indeed correct my friend!
In Light & Peace
October 15, 2009 am31 11:05 am
If you can answer this one question
(with something other than a cop-out or circular reasoning or ad hominem arguments against me),
I will leave this site:
WHEN the predictions fail to pass, and the year 2012 comes and goes with nothing coming to pass, and by January 1, 2013 the world is the same as it is today, what will your excuse be?
Remember:
no cop-out answer
no circular reasoning
no ad hominem arguments against me
October 15, 2009 am31 11:07 am
@Bob: And what will your excuse be when it does?
October 15, 2009 am31 11:10 am
Cop-out would be something like:
“They moved it to a later date.”
Circular reasoning would be:
“They are real messages because other channelers say so.”
Ad Hominen attacks would be:
You are mean, therefore you are wrong.”
October 15, 2009 am31 11:21 am
Whether these messages come to pass or not, Life isn’t about predictions, or even the future.
Life is about The Moment. Whether you want to believe that or not, that is the Ultimate Truth. It is about The Experience, The Now. Not The Then, nor even The Future. Just Now. This breath, the space between breaths. That’s it. Simple.
So, why not enjoy it? Is there some benefit to be a Naysayer, be Negative, put others down, say “you’re wrong,” “no, it is done this way, not that way,” etc.?
In the end, does it Really Matter that any message, whether these or even Biblical, come to pass?
Peace, Love, and Light!
October 15, 2009 am31 11:35 am
@BOB:
Well, if Jon M. feels it is okay to answer you, then I am also going to
I do not think there will be any change in 2012 personally (and this is verified by credible mediums…I am about to post audio recordings on my site from a lecture I attended yesterday that also confirms this), but even if some of the sources that are posted here say otherwise does that make everything that they say a lie – no of course not!
So if a friend has ever told you anything but the whole truth, then that friend is all of a sudden lying to you all the time – no of course not!
>>“I will leave this site: WHEN the predictions fail to pass, and the year 2012 comes and goes with nothing coming to pass”
We are in no hurry to see anyone leave – great to hear that you will be reading posts for 3 more years! If the world is fundamentally unchanged by 2011 then I am not going be as patient as you are! But that does not mean that everything said here is a lie.
In Light & Peace
October 15, 2009 am31 4:37 pm
Hi everyone!!!!!!
These are vey good news, can´t wait.
Send you all much LOVE and LIGHT, be brave and keep always much hope in your heart.
Cheers to all from Brazil!!!
October 15, 2009 am31 5:25 pm
@QuadHealer
Did you actually write “credible healer”?
Jeez, talk about oxymoron!!!
October 15, 2009 am31 5:26 pm
You people are freaking lunatics!
October 15, 2009 am31 6:00 pm
All you brave souls here defending your right of free believe, your hearts are positively shining bright,be proud of yourselves.
http://www.gracewatcher.org/ashtarcommand.html
October 15, 2009 am31 6:36 pm
11 October 2009
Dear Ones,
You have done your homework. Most of you know what you want and how to ask for it. We have watched several of you manifest great and wonderful things, including houses, jobs, health and partners.
Ask and you shall receive. Well, ask and you shall receive at least some of the time. Many of you are perplexed as to why you aren’t able to manifest what you need and want. You have done the work – you have decided what it is you want. You have blessed what you already have as well. This is an important step, to be grateful.
And you have “turned” your wish over to the forces that be. And now you are in the waiting mode. Isn’t it strange that since you were small, there has always been a great deal of value put on giving? Giving to others, sharing, and helping others has been driven into your consciousness.
But who has told you about receiving? If you continue to give and give and give, you are pushing away the very thing that you wish for, to receive. If you have too much energy going out, it naturally stops the flow from coming in.
Here’s a good image to have in mind. Suppose you go to the grocery store and you buy many things, however, this store does not provide bags to put your purchases in. So you look at the mound of stuff you’ve bought and you want and maybe even need it all, yet you have forgotten to bring your bags or basket to put everything in. Finally, you leave the store taking a few things that you can carry.
Life is like that. In order to take out what you have ordered, you need to have your bags and baskets ready; you need to be prepared to “take”, to “accept” life’s gifts. Have you been shopping? Do you have your baskets ready?
Receiving is sacred because without those who receive there would not be the opportunity for anyone to give. Open yourselves to receive. Receiving is every bit as sacred as giving, just as catching a ball is as necessary as throwing one. The Universe continues to aim good things right at you. Many of you, just look and watch the “ball” sail by. Why not equip yourself with a good catching mitt?
“Look, Universe, I have my basket. I have my catcher’s mitt on. I’m ready and willing to receive. So go ahead and toss the good stuff my way.”
The Universe smiles down upon those that are open and ready to receive its gifts.
The greatest gift you can give anyone is your openness to receive that which they wish to give. So the next time you are walking down the street, wondering when you will meet the love of your life, use the sacred art of receiving technique:
“I am open to receive. I imagine energy and all good coming towards me.”
This is the sacred art of receiving! Once you know what you need or want, it will be given to you when you are open.
And part two of the sacred art of receiving is simple: you receive and you bless that which has come your way and you ask for more of the same. So, for instance, if you need money to pay your bills and you receive $10 from someone, bless that amount, and ask for more of the same.
“I bless this money that has come to me and I am open to receive more. I imagine money and abundance coming to me.”
Receive. Bless. Open to more abundance.
Receive. Bless. Open to more abundance.
Receive. Bless. Open to more abundance.
The only limits are those you put on yourself.
It is only logical that the flow going out from (giving) needs and must be balanced with the flow coming in (receiving).
Receiving and giving are the same. So please, start to put “receiving” first if you have been concentrating a bit too much on giving, giving, giving.
Open to receive. This is a most sacred act. It is not easy. Many of you say you want something, you want your situation to change for the better, but just when something is coming your way, you decide you don’t deserve it and you push the very thing you want away.
So the dance goes like this: With one hand you open to receive. With the other you push away your own desires.
Yes, I want a new job. No, I don’t want it today. Yes, I want a new relationship. No, I don’t want to end the current one even though it isn’t working. Yes, I want my health back. No, I don’t want to stop smoking two packs a day, drinking, and eating fast food. Well, it goes on and on.
Do you want what you want? Or are you simply kidding yourself? If you don’t want something, then stop saying you do. If you aren’t open to receive, then stop asking. Check out your thoughts and what you say. At least bring everything into harmony. “I don’t want better health. I want to keep smoking.” “I don’t want to work. I don’t want a job today or any day for that matter.” “I don’t want a new relationship. I’m happy in the bad one I’m in.”
Be honest. If you are closed, so be it! But if you really, really desire change, then get your baskets ready. Remember the sacred art of receiving:
“I am open to receive.”
“All good comes to me.”
Expect the Universe to fulfill your needs and desires. There’s enough for everyone. And when your wishes are fulfilled, give thanks and ask again.
1. I am open to receive. (And when you receive.)
2. I am grateful for what I have received. (And then you ask again.)
3. I am open to receive.
And so it goes. Get ready to receive. Receiving is a sacred art. If you receive something from someone, thank them profusely. If someone brings you a little pastry, thank the person and appreciate the gesture. It doesn’t matter the cost of the item received, every gift is a gift from God. That little cake you just received is pure love being offered to you.
The All Good you receive is pure love. Who would not be grateful for love received, no matter what the form!
Open to love.
We are with you.
(Message received by P.L)
October 15, 2009 am31 6:39 pm
Something is really wrong with that, I sense it.
October 15, 2009 am31 6:40 pm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7156280801412866390#docid=7139344001701781279
October 15, 2009 am31 6:46 pm
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Lyrae, You are definitely a sick puppy, like anyone needs you to needle their lives and tell them what they need, that would be concluded as rotten behavior and you have no business with your nose up in IT !
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October 15, 2009 am31 6:52 pm
Maybe you should learn to tell a good joke cuz that is what you are !
October 15, 2009 am31 6:53 pm
Dear gretchen,
Its nothing more than an uplifting message, read it again, you need it.
October 15, 2009 am31 7:17 pm
Here are some public lectures I have recently attended that people may find interesting:
http://scifi.dk/talk.php?la=en
All lectures are recorded as mp3, and you may listen to them online, or download the files.
The lecture yesterday was by Gregory “Ashid” Possman. Gregory is a trance channel and channeled Archangel Raphael, Cassandra, and Archangel Michael on that evening.
Cassandra talked about how it is to be an angle helping people.
Michael talked about how important it is not to take things so seriously, and touched upon a great number of topics and made some predictions – very interesting talk.
You may skip the first 5 min that comments on something that Gregory “Ashid” Possman mentioned earlier, about where he primarily gets his information (in the bathroom) – it was intended to wake people up, and make us laugh.
The direct link to perhaps the most interesting talks are here:
http://scifi.dk/talk/T1/T3_2_cassandra.mp3
http://scifi.dk/talk/T1/T3_3_michael.mp3
Enjoy!
October 15, 2009 am31 7:18 pm
Here are some public lectures I have recently attended that people may find interesting:
http://scifi.dk/talk.php?la=en
All lectures are recorded as mp3, and you may listen to them online, or download the files.
The lecture yesterday was by Gregory “Ashid” Possman. Gregory is a trance channel and channeled Archangel Raphael, Cassandra, and Archangel Michael on that evening.
Cassandra talked about how it is to be an angle helping people.
Michael talked about how important it is not to take things so seriously, and touched upon a great number of topics and made some predictions – very interesting talk.
You may skip the first 5 min that comments on something that Gregory “Ashid” Possman mentioned earlier, about where he primarily gets his information (in the bathroom) – it was intended to wake people up, and make us laugh.
Enjoy!
October 15, 2009 am31 7:22 pm
No I don’t !
October 15, 2009 am31 7:25 pm
You are just a self-righteous dweeb that thinks they have the power to rule over other peoples lives !
October 15, 2009 am31 8:09 pm
@Lyrae: Thank you for your post – I enjoyed reading it.
October 15, 2009 am31 8:58 pm
Gretchen blah blah read stuff blah blah because I’m a self-righteous dweeb who appears to have power over your life.
October 15, 2009 am31 9:01 pm
YOU’RE ALL HYPOCRITES ON TOP OF IT!
October 15, 2009 am31 9:02 pm
I can see you are just dieing for attention.
Is that the best you can do, oh look I found your binky, all better now !
October 15, 2009 am31 9:13 pm
@Jon M:
Hmm, having skimmed what I wrote earlier I realized that what I wrote to you could be conceived in a condescending manner, and I just wanted to make sure that it did not come across that way.
I find your posts well thought out and wise, unlike what I sometimes blurt out.
In Light & Peace
October 15, 2009 am31 9:53 pm
I’ve attended Sheldon Nidle’s webinar tonight. He has provided amazing analytical and spiritual information. Also he said that it’s not going to be Obama to make an announcement.It will be one of the European governments.
It seems Sheldon and Mike are not from the same ‘company’.
Message on ‘Obama’s’ ET disclosure was, at the first hand, delivered by the Project Camelot a couple month ago, the projected timeframe of disclosure – October, 2009.
October 15, 2009 am31 10:15 pm
@alpha: Very interesting. That actually also makes a bit more sense, but one never knows until it happens.
It really does not matter who discloses it – as long as it is made public by some official and the mass media reports on it without ridiculing the source.
I’ve been waiting all my life for this! Let’s see what happens – I certainly am exited!
In Light & Peace
October 15, 2009 am31 11:15 pm
http://www.galacticfriends.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4124&Itemid=92
October 16, 2009 am31 12:29 am
Where does the strength come from to see the race to it’s end? From within.- We stand on the precipice of changes that transcend the limitations of our thinking and language. I can feel it. Like a splinter in my mind, driving me mad. As we continue to walk the razors edge, somewhere between insanity and enlightenment, between duality and unity-consciousness, it’s hard not to feel cautious. We were born to do this, but remember, we have to be more focused and conscious than ever before. The magnitude of a Government announcement on this level, or First Contact for that matter, require our active participation, not passive observation and blind faith. -For you cynics, doubters and shit talkers. So be it. But remember, those who are laughing now, will be crying later. Let’s just hope they’ll be tears of joy. -In the end no matter what we “believe”, the Eschaton approaches. If you don’t believe me, look within. Manifest destiny!
~Inlakesh
October 16, 2009 am31 12:58 am
………Good One………
October 16, 2009 am31 7:11 am
@Quad: I didn’t take it that way; and, I do not think myself “wise.”