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I would like to pose a question for the community contribution. This is an opinion poll. What do Quinsey and Nidle’s messages mean to me? What is the overall opinion or prediction on what we think is going to happen in the next 100 years here on planet earth. I just want an idea of what people are actually getting on these messages because I personally am getting confused.
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July 8, 2010 pm31 5:15 pm
I used to get a lot from them. I actually “believed” there for a while. But now it’s just so much “soon” that I only hope. Well, more hope from Salusa. Nidle is pretty negative sometimes and not so much a future I’d like. But I really don’t believe, at least not really really believe. They’ve been saying “any day now” for way too long. I want to think we will make contact with our friends from “out there”. But I don’t know any more. Like I say, it’s been so much “soon” that it’s lost it’s punch. I will probably quit reading them before long. I’m drifting away.
July 8, 2010 pm31 5:31 pm
Sassy: At this point in time, I don’t get much out of the messages. I now basically go on what I feel internally. Sadly, I think many do not even understand what SaLuSa means by raising one’s own vibration. I think most people are quite happy to sit back and have ascension handed to them on a silver platter…I think they will be quite surprised when this all plays out. Talking about ascension and being actively involved in one’s own ascension are two very different actions indeed. I have followed Nidle for years, and we are given only a bit of information, like a carrot on a stick… This nation (the US) and many others around the world are fast-becoming police states. The US has now come full circle in her lesson in duality. Maybe people losing their rights will be the thing that actually tips the scales…maybe that will be the wake up call…or maybe our Lady Gaia will continue to hopefully awaken the sleeping and trapped in 3D masses. Its anybody’s guess at this point I reckon… I do rather believe that there is a silent minority out there that is holding the light for all. And I always remind myself that a benevolent force watches over Creation.
July 8, 2010 pm31 5:59 pm
I am optimistic for the future and I still believe the messages from SaLuSa. I believe these messages because my inner guidance system responds affirmatively to them. I am hesitant about Sheldon Nidle’s messages, because he talks about more extravagant changes that seem frightening, like a massive evacuation to Inner Earth, and a surface restructuring of the Earth.
It is not only SaLuSa or the messages we find here on this site that refer to upcoming changes. Channels have consistently spoken of big changes happening at this time. Also, native people have traditions about changes. The Hopi talk about the ending of the Fourth World and the beginning of the Fifth World. Mayan shamans say the same. Even Christiany, Islam and maybe even Judaism have some end-time prophecies that (although mixed up with fearful messages) speak of a time of peace and prosperity.
The details are confusing. Are we going to disappear and reappear in new bodies, or develop a light/crystalline body along with the physical body? Are we going to transform slowly or suddenly? Are we all going to transform at once at the stroke of midnight on Dec 21, 2012, or will some of us transition over a period of time? How many will actually ascend?
The overall picture, to me, is the main thing. The overall picture is that a better world awaits us, we are to integrate with galactic family. We are to have guidance. We are to be more connected to one another and feel a real connection to God, not just an idea based on faith. The Earth will be significantly healed and improved. There are to be new technologies that will make travel and communication easy. We are to be much healthier and have longer lifespans.
I’ve only been reading SaLuSa for the last few years. But before that, other channels have been talking about these changes. So in reality, I’ve been looking ahead to these changes for about 15 years, when I first “woke up” and understood myself to be a spiritual being. Given that, it’s frustrating but ultimately should not be that disappointing to wait a bit longer, given that it is an entire epoch of human history that is winding down here.
Gordon
July 8, 2010 pm31 7:21 pm
Kudos Gordon! Ultimately it is up to each of us to find the fifth dimension. SaLuSa amd GFOL can do nothing but keep saying the same thing. I love them, and they’ve changed my life for the better! Oh, it’s true and it’s happening. Keep watching the idiot box – best brainwashing tool on the planet – and you’ll never see it.
Tune into It’s frequency. Only LOVE is real. There can be no fear.
July 8, 2010 pm31 7:25 pm
We are all ascending right now as we take in the amplified Light energies. If we weren’t ascending, we wouldn’t even ask the questions.
July 8, 2010 pm31 11:05 pm
I like two books “ET Contact: Blueprint for a New World” by Gina Lake channelling “Theodore,” and “Earth Changes and 2012″ by Sal Rachele channelling the “Founders.”
From “ET Contact”:
Your world is moving into fourth density and you will need to ascend in order to remain here. That does not mean that third-density Earth will cease to exist. Third-density Earth will not disappear; it will continue in a parallel reality, in many parallel realities in fact. And many who are not yet ready for ascension will return to an Earth in one of those parallel realities. In these worlds, life will continue as if ascension never occurred. Those choosing this experience will learn important lessons about the choices they have made, now and earlier, that are not in alignment with ascension. It will not be easy.
To understand this better, we will say more about parallel realities. When an individual or a planet comes to a crossroads, every possible choice at that crossroads is explored in a parallel reality. Thus, there are many parallel versions of you living parallel variations of your life in which you explore the consequences of each choice you could have selected. One parallel reality is not more real than another, but an individual’s consciousness resides in one reality more than the others, and that reality will be the real one to that person. This does not make any of the other realities less real.
So, when we say that Earth is ascending, we mean that many people on Earth today will experience ascension as their reality. They experience it because they are ready to experience it, meaning that they are willing to believe it is possible, willing to create it, and willing to receive it.
When we say that the Earth is moving in fourth density, we speak to those of you who on some level wish to create this and are willing to become a part of this reality. Those who are not ready or willing to conceive of it as a reality will not experience it. They will continue in their third-density lives on Earth. Therefore, at some point, there will be a splitting off, and that is the momentous occasion that many of you are preparing for and awaiting.
Third-density Earth may or may not survive as a place for humanoid evolution. Much depends on the choices made. In one parallel reality, it could be taken over by negative extraterrestrials. In another, it might destroy itself through nuclear war. In yet another, it might turn the corner and ascend later. There are infinite possibilities and therefore infinite parallel realities connected not only with third-density Earth but also fourth-density Earth. Anything that is possible exists in some parallel reality. This is how the Creator explores all possibilities and learns from them.”
From “Earth Changes and 2012″:
“There are many possible future timelines for your Earth. The “dominant” timeline is the one chosen by the majority of souls, or the one that has the most energy placed within it. As stated earlier, there are three dominant timelines occurring on planet Earth now, corresponding to the third, fourth and fifth density versions of reality. There are other possibilities as well, but only a tiny percentage of human souls will choose a timeline other than these three dominant ones.
You could say the Earth is splitting into three different versions–a third density Earth with a lot of death and destruction, a fourth density Earth with enlightened, self-sufficient spiritual communities, and a fifth density Earth of physically ascended masters living in paradise. While these three timelines exist simultaneously in truth, to the linear mind they will seem like a three-pronged fork in the road of time/space. Most souls will experience only one of these, although with enough awareness you can experience all of them at the same time.”
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“We can certainly look at what you have painted so far and from that, predict fairly accurately what you will paint in the future. Within the variations of free will, we can anticipate what you will most likely do next, based on your current level of awareness. We can say with relative certainty that about three-fourths of you will likely leave this planet and reincarnate on another world, while about one-fourth of you will “inherit” the Earth. A still smaller group of you will move directly into your etheric crystal light body forms.”
July 8, 2010 pm31 11:24 pm
More from the Founders through Sal Rachele:
“The Mechanics of Ascension”
Let us review. What is ascension? ascension is the process of moving from a third, through fourth, to a fifth density consciousness. Your consciousness determines your experience. Your consciousness determines your vibratory state. Your consciousness determines what type of vehicle you will use in order to perceive life.
Where you place your consciousness determines your experience of life. This, your metaphysicians have gotten very clearly. If you focus your attention on fifth density, that will become your dominant vibration.
When you reach fifth density, your vibration will be such that the environmental contaminants of your world no longer influence your body. As you continue to move your consciousness into the more refined steps on the spiral of ascension, you will find that your form becomes more and more subtle, and eventually becomes invisible to third density humans. It will even become invisible to fourth density humans at some point.
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In ascension, your vehicle of perception changes. The primary plane you occupy changes and the energy you radiate changes. There is an etheric world superimposed on your third and fourth density Earth, which is the fifth density light body of Earth. When you go to this fifth density Earth, you must use your fifth density etheric light body as the vehicle for perceiving it. You can go there now within your mind in meditation, but you will not experience the fullness of the etheric Earth until you truly transcend the lower frequencies of being.
Each one of you has within you the ability to live in the fifth dimension in a fifth density body. You can all do that. The very fact that you were attracted to this book indicates that you have ascension as your focus.
What does fifth density look like? Fifth density Earth looks very much like fourth density Earth except that there is an emanation, radiance, and shine to everything. There is no disease. There is no death. There is no aging. You are able to re-create your body to look eternally youthful, if that is what you desire. There is great love between beings in fifth density. There is no more competition or greed. There is no guilt or shame. There is simply a celebration of the diversity of light forms and a cooperation that is unspoken, for the language of light is telepathic.
When you are in your fifth density light body, your primary focus will become how to educate and enlighten others, and what to explore next in this infinite universe.”
July 8, 2010 pm31 11:29 pm
Theodore, through Gina Lake, words of wisdom:
“Most of you feel uncomfortable about believing in ascension because it is a radical idea. However, those of you who do believe it don’t seem to be able to help it! You just know it is true. But it will help you feel more comfortable and safe if you simply live your lives as you would if you did not hold this belief. This helps ensure that your ego or the negative forces don’t use this belief to avoid the responsibilities and growth that are part of your lives now. It is tempting to conclude that you don’t need to get an education or bother with other mundane duties if you are going to ascend. Beware of that kind of thinking. It is dangerous to change your future plans based on the belief that you are going to ascend. You are still the creator of your reality, and you need to create the ascended reality and perform the tasks you came here to do!”
July 9, 2010 pm31 6:02 am
Reading these messages can either be a blessing or a curse. It becomes a curse when you pay attention to the soon™ word they use all the time or when you go in waiting mode thinking that things will change without any involvement on your part.
It can be a blessing when you feel revitalized and more joyful after the reading. I think this should be the main reason to read these channels.
Generally speaking, I don’t like the vibe of Sheldan’s messages but there are a few exceptions.
Also, there is always a part of doubt in me when I read channeled messages. Perhaps Quinsey is only a talented writer who enjoys the ever growing attention and popularity he gets? Maybe Sheldan’s messages objective is to keep all of us into waiting mode in the hope that we miss our opportunities to change the world ourselves? Maybe I’m just being paranoiac?
It’s sad but in our current reality, trust is something hard to give. The channel I have the most respect for is Matthew Ward… but even him (or more probably it was his channeler) did the curious thing of putting a single individual on a pedestal. Since this time my trust in Matthew’s messages has diminished.
Discernment is truly becoming a precious ally as more and more sources claiming to be “of the light” are appearing. My opinion is that the outside world can help us find our way back home… but it is only through our personal journey that we’ll be able to discover the Truth and more importantly to understand, remember and feel the Truth in all the cells of our bodies.
July 9, 2010 pm31 11:52 am
Thanks everybody. I don’t know if I am any less confused but I appreciate your opinions. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see. I guess we just have to go with our gut.
July 9, 2010 pm31 1:51 pm
Have to say that I agree with Gordon #3.
Sometimes the messages through both Mike and Sheldan make total sense to me and resonate strongly – at other times they don’t. SaLuSa seems to come through a lot “stronger”, if I can use that word.
Usually I can’t wait for the next message to come through, despite the fact that they are terribly repetitive – I still find that there is always SOMETHING there that will make sense at the time.
I’m also very very wary of anything called a “channelling” and can usually feel within the first few sentences if this is real, or not. But generally, what I now do with all of them, is to read and accept them purely as INFORMATION… I do not need to like it, or believe it. This is where our discernment comes in – something else they repeatedly tell us to use, when reading any of this information.
Information, in itself, is not “good” or “bad”… it just IS. It’s what we DO with it and how we respond to it that gives it power.
Each of us is different, and we process information in different ways – the trick is not to have any expectation from anything we hear or read. When we are ready, within ourselves as individuals, to HEAR the information, we will “get it” very quickly. If we are not, we will either not hear or understand it.
it’s like the old adage that says
July 10, 2010 pm31 6:15 am
My opinion on the matter is that this will all start on Dec 21 2012 and persist for a long time. Quite honestly, I doubt that two years is enough time to complete the mission, although the supposed effects of 2012 will help immensely. When our missions are completed, we will ascend and come down to earth in the ships to pick up the human race (or the majority of it) while the earth undergoes its transformation. Then, we go back to the new earth. Several thousands of years later, we might get to help the ones that remained in 3d.
July 10, 2010 pm31 9:28 am
the messages have done one thing for me. they have brought me here to this site to meet all you wonderful people. my brother admiral, my sister red robin. my mom laurinda, and all the rest here on gilligans island
July 10, 2010 pm31 2:18 pm
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