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    SaLuSa 14-March-2011

    Dear Ones we must mention the massive earthquake in Japan, that followed an earlier one in New Zealand. When you have countries that are in earthquake zones and actually on the Ring of Fire you are sitting on a powder keg, and there is always a chance that the big one takes place whether through natural or man-made means. At a time when Mother Earth is re-shaping the surface, you can therefore expect some more serious convulsions. In the case of Japan the potential exists for the tectonic plates to pass under each other, and as a result it could disappear into the waves. So we are grateful that the worst scenario did not occur, and have every sympathy and compassion for those dear souls who were affected. It is not our place to interfere, but we are allowed where possible to lessen the effects. Sometimes we are dealing with the needs of Mother Earth, and the cleansing must be completed before Ascension is possible, and as you will have noted the preparations are speeding up. Out of such disasters comes a wonderful opportunity for Mankind to help each other, and a coming together will cement friendly relationships important to the immediate future. It has been mentioned previously that all souls that pass over as a result of trauma, are carefully looked after and treated with much love. They do recover quite quickly and it is helped by them being re-united with their families and friends.

    In general what you are seeing all around the world is the final cleansing that must take place very soon, and you will see the objective in what is happening. At some stage in the not too distant future we will be joining you, and then you can receive every help we can give along with details of what is needed to carry you speedily forward. Until we can all get started things will appear disjointed and at times chaotic, but we can assure you in spite of that a clear and precise plan is in operation. It is just that for the time being we cannot disclose the details of our actions. The governmental changes are clearly most essential to our ability to work with you, and the last cabal must be and will be removed to prevent any further interference with our plans to release you from their control. In fact they have already been seriously weakened, and do not carry the influence or command over events as they did previously. Our allies have infiltrated their set up and successfully prevented an expansion of their activities. As long as they are contained, we can make progress with you and anyone who is aware and alert will notice the direction that we are going in.

    Again we must mention the fear aspect that arises in such times as you are experiencing. We ask you to remain calm and know that it is not true that the end of the world is taking place. In no circumstances will it be destroyed or even seriously impacted by natural or man-made circumstances. Matters of that nature are within our control, and we are here to ensure that the cycle is completed as divinely decreed. Often what is referred to as support for outlandish predictions are old writings that were made in a totally different era to what you are in now. In other words most are no longer relevant to the time you are in now. Since the Millennium you have moved onto another path, that in spite of the current or recent calamities, is one that is less volatile. We would add that as always we are very active in ways not apparent to you, and we do whatever is allowed to ensure matters do not get out of hand. Karma is a factor that we cannot interfere with, but we can respond to your calls for help that are received by us in Love and Light.

    Our desire is to get past the last hurdles that are holding up Disclosure, and that is a vital event that affects so many others. Be assured as slow as the progress is we are getting there, and it is close to happening. Keep your thoughts and prayers coming to us for open contact with you, and in your own way you will be helping speed up that event. We are very pleased with the way your consciousness levels have grown, and your acceptance of us and desire to meet with us is more powerful now than it ever was previously. That tells us that our approach has been exactly right, and over many years we have been able to dispel fears that have been deliberately created to keep us apart. Even now your media plays the fear card, but you are much wiser than before and see through their plans to keep us from meeting. It is time for such a coming together, and you will definitely meet with us your Space family and your ancestors from the Inner Earth. Oh yes, you have a lot to learn about your true history that has been kept from you or distorted, to convey only what the dark Ones see as necessary to keep you in their control.

    You are to throw off your shackles very soon, and taste real freedom as a right that has been previously denied you. Your very way of living will move to a higher level with all of the advantages that modern technology can give you. With it will emerge the real you free from the dictates and oppressive controls that have kept you in slavery to the Illuminati. Their influence will by then have no more power to interfere with your lives, which will become most happy and wonderfully exciting. Keep looking ahead, and do not let the changes put you in fear of the future. All that is happening now is going to be short lived, and out of it you will see the purpose that will set you firmly upon the path to Ascension. Of course many of you have made excellent progress towards it, and are recognising the changes in your levels of consciousness. That will become more evident this year, as there are key points when the energies are going to be uplift you even further.

    I am SaLuSa from Sirius, and tell you that if you can look upon what is happening as a means to an end that is for your benefit, you will quickly overcome any problems that affect you in a personal way. You obviously all have a life plan that is meant to fit in with them, and if you sit quietly and ponder what they are you will almost certainly gain an understanding. After hundreds of lives in so many countries and cultures you can be sure that you are so much wiser than when this cycle first commenced. Now it comes down to clearing whatever karma is still uncleared, and at a time when you are at your strongest to deal with it. Take it as it comes and do not fight it, but approach it with love in your heart for yourself. You are a great soul that has yet to understand your full potential, but very soon you will know without a doubt. Remember that we are with you at all times, in Love and Light.

    Thank you SaLuSa.

    Mike Quinsey.

214 Comments
  1. #1 Matthew
    March 14, 2011 am31 10:47 am

    LeAnn #184 previous,

    Thank you (both) for making the decision to protect this super little forum of ours! Have no doubt you have made the right decision. Sensoring is very different to moderating. I do not agree with sensoring at all but do agree that we should all respect each others opinions and bounce ideas and knowledge off of each other. Heart Heart Heart

    OK, I have been unable to get on the net until today and so have just read the latest from Matthews messages. Matthew makes it clear that the Earthquake in Japan was as a result of foul play from the dark ones.

    Now Salusa has said recently that the dark ones will no longer be allowed to cause too much upset and mayhem and I am sure he said that “they” are permitted to intervene where there may be considerable loss of life which there has been.

    OK the big question is which one of them is telling porky pies? One is clearly wrong. Dead Rose Dead Rose

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  2. #2 Laurinda
    March 14, 2011 am31 11:04 am

    Yes Matthew, I agree, we are entering into the 11th hour, as I have stated previously. A little help for the ground crew in Japan would be in order!!! I say step up or step out!!!! “SOON” just doesn’t cut it anymore!!!

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  3. #3 Kevlar
    March 14, 2011 am31 11:06 am

    no one can know how many lives could have been lost if the glf did not step in. maybe they did, maybe they idint. maybe 100,000 could have lost their lives. but 10,000 + did die, and are in a much better place now, where they understand why they died.

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  4. #4 Admiral2012here
    March 14, 2011 am31 11:07 am

    FUEL RODS LIKELY MELTING AT THIRD JAPANESE REACTOR (w/Vid)

    SOMA, Japan — The uranium fuel rods at a third nuclear reactor at a stricken Japanese power complex are likely to have started melting after water levels dropped precipitously twice on Monday, officials said

    The water drop left the rods no longer covered in cooling water, thus increasing the risk of a radiation leak and the potential for a meltdown at the Unit 2 reactor, Tokyo Electric Power Co. said

    Water levels were restored after the first decrease, but the rods remained exposed late Monday night after the second episode at Unit 2 of the Fukushima Dai-ichi plant

    A senior government official said it now seems that the nuclear fuel rods inside all three functioning reactors at the complex are melting. Units 1 and 3 earlier also saw drops in water levels

    “Although we cannot directly check it, it’s highly likely happening” Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42066534/ns/world_news-asiapacific

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  5. #5 Admiral2012here
    March 14, 2011 am31 11:13 am

    JAPANESE QUAKE DISRUPTS SPACE STATION OPERATIONS

    The deadly 8.9 earthquake that struck Japan Friday ravaged the country’s International Space Station control center in Tsukuba and forced NASA to take over the lab’s Japanese systems, according to an agency spokesperson

    http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n1103/11earthquake/

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  6. #6 Laurinda
    March 14, 2011 am31 11:20 am

    SaLuSa: Neutralizing all the deadly radiation would be a great start, don’t ya think?!

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  7. #7 Laurinda
    March 14, 2011 am31 11:22 am

    Okay, why is my #6 comment being moderated?

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  8. #8 Admiral2012here
    March 14, 2011 am31 11:29 am

    EMMANUEL: MARCH ENERGY FORCAST – THE NEW WORLD EMERGES

    Peace & blessings!

    It is with fullest of hearts that I have the opportunity to connect with you once again and share the miraculous advancements forward we are co-creating together. We have a great deal of things to catch up on, so here we go

    In general, as we choose the path of expansion both personally and globally, we are always given the opportunity to do so in a way that is the most gentle on our physical, emotional, mental, and energetic bodies. Although it might not feel so gentle at times due to the natural resistance our minds might create as they adjusts to the energies of change, with a little conscious effort on our part to be more gentle with ourselves, our ability to move through the current changes becomes much easier

    Many of us who have chosen to embark on a journey of personal and spiritual expansion have come across many readings and messages that have provided us with a great deal of comfort, and some that might have rattled us a bit. (Just as a side note, if a reading or message ever makes us feel disempowered, disconnected, or fearful then it’s safe to say that it is not operating from a place of authenticity and truth.) So, because of the great deal of shifts occurring right now in the world, it’s important to always ask ourselves this simple question when reading or hearing any messages that may come from news outlets or spiritual forums: Is this message coming from a place of fear & separation or is this coming from a space of love & unity? This question makes it much easier to decipher through what readings actually raise our vibration and those that might hinder our expansion process

    NO MORE WAITING

    For a long time, we had only heard about the amazing times that would be manifesting in our lives as a future collective projection. Without a doubt, many of those future projections have now become our full blown present reality! No longer do we have to wait for signs and confirmations that our world is indeed moving into a new age of Oneness, it’s actually happening right before our very own eyes. If we are someone who finds ourselves really attached to readings or teachings that make us feel any different because specific details in those readings have not come into fruition yet, I would invite us to be willing to release those attachments so that we can fully embrace the “present now moment” where the real miraculous transformations are happening daily

    THE SIGNIFICANCE OF EGYPT

    Having grown up in the Middle East and experiencing first hand the density of that region, I have to say that what is transpiring right now in that part of the world is nothing short of miraculous, yet completely expected

    The recent peaceful demonstrations in Egypt facilitated by hundreds of thousands of people that came together as One people (putting all religion & politics aside) where able to overturn a corrupt regime that up until recently had instilled a great fear through violence and control on its people, which gave it great illusionary power. It is by no accident that the beginning of this new forward movement has started in Tunisia and Egypt. These regions energetically have held an extremely highly sacred vibration on our planet for thousands of years

    What the people of Egypt have shown us is that change can happen peacefully. Even when the Egyptian government began to resort to violence, the people of Egypt held their ground through peace. Another important gift they have given to the world is to inspire and motivate their sisters and brothers all over the world to unite together and make their voices heard that fear-based antics, greed, and control are no longer acceptable in our current modern day society

    LET FREEDOM RING – A PRECENDENT FOR THE WORLD

    So, through the courage of the people of Egypt a domino effect is now fully underway in many different Middle Eastern countries and is spreading out all over the world. A clear message has been sent that freedom, love, and unity always prevail no matter how tough the road ahead seems. There is no turning back now and we will continue to witness the physical manifestation of this unity we’ve envisioned for so long in action

    THE DIVINE SOLAR FLARES

    If we haven’t already, we will soon begin to hear more talk in mainstream media outlets of the powerful solar flares entering our atmosphere. Much of it may be delivered in a manner with the intention of creating fear, however the truth is there is absolutely nothing to fear at all. In fact, the solar flares that are continuing to pour into our planet play an important role in our spiritual evolution

    What is the Sun? The sun is energy as everything is energy. This energy resonates at a certain frequency that manifests itself as a bright ball of light. When light enters the energy of matter, it aligns the vibration of that energy matter to match it. So, when the solar waves enter Earth, they align the energy of Earth and everything on Earth to match the vibration of the sun. Of course this happens in increments of what seems like thousands of years in linear time, so that this frequency match manifests gently. During the integration process, the Earth and we go through a cleansing process releasing all the energies that no longer serve our greatest good. Many have been highly aware of this process for years and are now riding on top of this wave as opposed to resisting it

    For the Earth, the solar activity can show up as physical shifting, purging, extraordinary weather patterns, etc… And for us, we experience the same on the physical, emotional, and mental levels. Our weather patterns could show up as tears, moodiness, instantaneous laughter, among some other common emotional reactions. The ultimate gift we are receiving from the current solar cycle is the ultimate awakening of our consciousness. This awakening is what is bringing us all together as “One People” moving us out of the illusionary beliefs of separation that any one gender, race, sexual orientation, and culture is better than the other

    THE WAVE OF UNITY BEGINS

    So, here we are. We have arrived at the very beginning stages of the time we’ve all been anticipating, learning, and reading about for thousands of years. The time when a new conscious way of being and living would emerge. Welcome to the emergence of the new world

    Till next time,

    Miraculously yours, Emmanuel

    http://www.magnifiedmanifesting.com/energy-forecast

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  9. #9 Laurinda
    March 14, 2011 am31 11:34 am

    Admiral: As always, I am sending out my appreciation to you!

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  10. #10 Con
    March 14, 2011 am31 11:56 am

    Laurinda288: when you say: “The Big Brother Dramas are a current reality, the Corporatization of the planet by the Globalist Elite is happening all around us. ”
    I say: you are a fine reminder of the above here.
    Was it worth Jim being banned for you and your gang to come back in triumph after Admiral won the war brilliantly? Only cowards do that! Do us a favour and keep your self-flattery to yourself lady please. If all you have to say here is display your ego, your vanity and encourage it in others, I prefer Jim’s post any day!

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  11. #11 Laurinda
    March 14, 2011 am31 12:05 pm

    Con: FYI, I left the site for an entirely different reason. I usually scrolled down past his comments, as I now will do yours.

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  12. #12 JBiZ
    March 14, 2011 am31 12:07 pm

    The only FACT about the TSUNAMI in JAPAN is that it HAPPENED. Everything else is speculation. There is NO EVIDENCE that supports the Dark Cabal is responsible. As a matter of fact, all I find where the GFL is concerned is a bunch of crossed wires.

    If the Earth is supposed to be changing for cleansing purposes, how is the Dark Cabal responsible for the earthquake/tsunami? And if they are, are THEY really the Dark Cabal?

    It seems to me that if the GFL could scale back our space/Earth weather effects, why would they do so if change is needed before Disclosure? Maybe the GFL is responsible for the quake?

    When seeking the truth, one must remember to keep an open mind. I am not suggesting that we humans are in fact without galactic ‘friends’. I’m simply saying that any IDEA concerning WHO is responsible and HOW they made it happen in regards to the Japanese earthquake/tsunami is simply that… an IDEA.

    Our IDEAS are in conflict. WE ARE NOT. So if we all can just remember that, this forum might move back to a more civil exchange of these IDEAS.

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  13. #13 JBiZ
    March 14, 2011 am31 12:09 pm

    It would appear I missed quite a bit of action this weekend.

    Jim got banned???

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  14. #14 Con
    March 14, 2011 am31 12:14 pm

    JBiZ: “Maybe the GFL is responsible for the quake?”
    Oh man! That was a cheap one!
    Laurinda: Now this: “I usually scrolled down past his comments, as I now will do yours.”?? This is Hilarious ! Oh man!

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  15. #15 Laurinda
    March 14, 2011 am31 12:19 pm

    Con: I was trying to tell you I didn’t argue with Jim. You are now happily injecting the same type of energy here as he did though, but with much more intensity. I won’t argue with you either…You don’t like me, that’s fine with me. There are others you can converse with here. Scroll past my name, it doesn’t matter to me.

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  16. #16 Con
    March 14, 2011 am31 12:22 pm

    JBiZ: Yes, he got banned. He was abusive! but that was no problem before that. the rules just got upgraded. lol
    We get the rescuers when the battle was won instead of jim now! How is the Zeitgeist doing?
    Laurinda11: let me have it again! “I left the site for an entirely different reason”! lol! that is not what you were saying yesterday lady! lol
    Here is the proof that Earth is still shaking: I left the site for an entirely different reason

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  17. #17 Con
    March 14, 2011 am31 12:24 pm

    Or this is what is going on with Earth right now:
    http://aslwww.cr.usgs.gov/Seismic_Data/heli2.shtml

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  18. #18 Con
    March 14, 2011 am31 12:25 pm

    Laurinda15: hard to miss your posts: you are over-posting all the time. It is all about you, is it not?

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  19. #19 Kellia
    March 14, 2011 am31 12:51 pm

    Tepco Fears Fuel Rods Melt, Fights to Stabilize Stricken Reactor
    March 14, 2011, 3:01 PM EDT
    More From Businessweek

    * Japan Battles Nuclear Meltdown as Millions Are Without Power
    * Stricken Japan Reactor Just Passed Probe for Next Decade
    * Japan Reactor Pressure Falls; Nuclear Plant Remains a ‘Concern’
    * Japan Sends 50,000 Rescuers to Quake Area; Death Toll Rises
    * Tokyo Electric Vents Radioactive Gas at Plant After Earthquake

    By Tsuyoshi Inajima, Yuji Okada and Shigeru Sato

    March 15 (Bloomberg) — Tokyo Electric Power Co. said fuel rods may be melting inside a nuclear reactor, heightening the danger of a meltdown as engineers struggle to stabilize the plant damaged by the biggest earthquake in Japan’s history.

    The cooling system failed at the Daiichi No. 2 reactor yesterday, said Tokyo Electric, which runs the Fukushima nuclear plant 220 kilometers (135 miles) north of Tokyo. The fuel rods were exposed for a second time after water levels dropped, the company, known as Tepco, said early today.

    Earlier a hydrogen explosion struck the No. 3 reactor, following a similar blast on March 12 at the No. 1 unit that destroyed the walls of its building. The utility has been flooding the three reactors with water and boric acid to reduce the potential for a large release of radiation following the March 11 earthquake-generated tsunami that smashed into the plant, disabling power supply and backup generators.

    “It’s a situation that is requiring emergency measures to cool the reactors,” Andre-Claude Lacoste, chairman of French nuclear watchdog Autorite de Surete Nucleaire, said in Paris March 14. “If there is a complete meltdown of a core we will have a much more serious accident on our hands.”

    An air flow gauge was accidentally turned off at the No. 2 reactor causing air pressure into the reactor to rise suddenly and blocking the flow of cooling water, Tokyo Electric said in a press conference posted on NHK television’s website early today. Tokyo Electric is now attempting to reopen the valve to release pressure building inside the reactor and inject water to cool the rods, the company said.

    Radiation Concerns

    Japanese officials yesterday evacuated more than 200,000 people and handed out iodine, used to protect the thyroid from radioactivity, as they extended an exclusion zone around the plant to 20 kilometers.

    Radiation levels reached 3,130 microsieverts an hour at the monitoring site near the gate of the plant as of 9:37 p.m. local time, twice the previous record, Tokyo Electric said. That level dropped to 326.2 microsieverts per hour at 10:35 p.m.

    Prevailing winds in the area were heading east into the Pacific, which would carry radiation away, the Associated Press reported, citing Japan’s meteorological agency.

    U.S Navy ships and planes involved in earthquake rescue efforts were moved after radiation was detected on three helicopters.

    “Low level radioactivity” was detected on 17 air crew members when they returned to the USS Ronald Reagan aircraft carrier operating about 100 miles northeast from the plant, Navy spokesman Jeff Davis said in an e-mail.

    Mounting Pressure

    The vessel containing the No. 3 reactor’s radioactive core is intact after yesterday’s blast, Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano told reporters. The likelihood of a large radiation leak is very small, even as radiation levels at the No. 3 reactor are rising, said Edano, the government’s spokesman.

    At least four employees and two contractors were injured in the blast, Tokyo Electric said. The company’s shares slumped 24 percent.

    There are six boiling-water reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi plant, three of which were shut for maintenance before the earthquake.

    Unit No. 1 is a General Electric Co. model that can generate 439 megawatts of power and began commercial operation in 1971, according to the International Atomic Energy Agency. The No. 2 reactor was built by GE Toshiba and the No. 3 by Toshiba Corp.

    Sea Water

    Tokyo Electric said the sea water used to cool the reactors is being retained at the plant. “We will look into what we will do about the water,” spokesman Shogo Fukuda said by phone.

    Flooding the reactors with sea water renders them useless for future power production. The practice is “horrible,” Lacoste of the French nuclear watchdog said. It’s never been the subject of experimentation because reactors normally require water that is as clean as possible so as not to clog up pipes and cooling circuits.

    The disaster at Fukushima isn’t the first quake-related accident for Tokyo Electric.

    A 6.8-magnitude temblor on July 16, 2007, caused a fire and radiation leaks that shut down the Kashiwazaki Kariwa nuclear plant, the world’s biggest. It took almost two years to restart.

    –With assistance from Chisaki Watanabe and Yuriy Humber in Tokyo, Tara Patel in Paris, Akiko Nishimae in New York and Alex Devine in London. Editors: Alex Devine, Jessica Resnick-Ault

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  20. #20 JBiZ
    March 14, 2011 am31 12:55 pm

    Con -

    I didn’t offer the GFL being responsible as a VALID scenario. I simply meant to say, it IS possible. Anything is possible without evidence.

    False evidence has been used as well to verify false claims. IDEAS are funny little things. In an effort to be RIGHT, people will go to some EXTREME lengths.

    Funny thing is, we are ALL right from our OWN perspective. So while its great to have Mike Q. and SaLuSa sharing their IDEA as to what the Earth is going through, there remains no PROOF through EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE.

    Jim got banned for a silly reason. He was antagonized. I read the entire thread. Such a pity. Jim offered a fresh perspective. A cautionary one similar to mine. He is a believer. I am too. I just don’t believe all the BS that passes as evidence and proof.

    Until Full Open Contact, as I’ve said all along, no amount of video footage, sworn testimony, or channeled transmissions will do us any good. All must see in order for all to believe. That is just the way a collective works.

    I see Jim’s points very well. Those who engaged Jim and successfully escalated the situation to a place allowing for the decision to be made for him to be banned should be ashamed. No names will be mentioned.

    Jim is not entirely innocent, but those of you who kept playing the “Holier than Thou” card are more transparent in my mind than you all might find Jim to be. That’s like putting a cigarette out on someone while telling them not to react. In other words, purposefully pushing someone’s buttons in order to piss them off, only to come back and reply with, “Now remember, Light and Love.” SERIOUSLY?!?!?

    Where was the light and love during the antagonizing?

    EPIC FAIL all across the board if you ask me. Win/Lose thinking instead of Win/Win thinking.

    http://www.highintelligence.com

    Con -

    Zeitgeist is great! Had a FANTASTIC event at the New Earth Center on Saturday. I’ll put up the link as soon as the footage is on You Tube.

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  21. #21 Matthew
    March 14, 2011 am31 1:02 pm

    Con,

    Are you Con/Jim?

    Just that you both have a similar attitude.

    In light.

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  22. #22 BlueCube
    March 14, 2011 am31 1:07 pm

    Matt #21 – I was thinkin’ the same thing!

    ~ snick ~

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  23. #23 Con
    March 14, 2011 am31 1:12 pm

    JBiZ: all I am willing to say is that the Earth is shaking for a few weeks. It was bound to happen. A volcano is endangering Japan now too, as if it was not enough. I don’t know who or what cause the Japan quake or the one in 2004. They are both mag. 9. Over 350,000 are missing in Japan. I feel for them man!
    But I fully agree with, Jim was provoked. A few people attacked him and he defended himself. That is all. It seems he was not the only one who was attacked here judging by the previous posts. Funny how people suddenly lose the plot here and go mad. Would it have to do with the cliquish and childish attitude displayed here? All the pet talk. If one does not agree with this attitude one is banned. The other dude must have gone through the same and his posts were delete too.
    Apparently there is a tyrant on this site. Do you know who it is?
    Apparently there is a tyrant on this site. Do you know who it is? What happened to We are One? To love? It is ok, but if someone does not agree with liking private parts, one gets banned. Nice job! Well done! Look into the mirror Breavehearts!
    I better say goodbye to all before I get banned.

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  24. #24 Con
    March 14, 2011 am31 1:21 pm

    EDIT: It is ok, but if someone does not agree with licking posters private parts, one gets banned.

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  25. #25 Admiral2012here
    March 14, 2011 am31 1:24 pm

    …Con >>> I don’t know who or what cause the Japan quake or the one in 2004

    …have ya ever heard of HAARP

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnRPZOUVhJ4

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  26. #26 Admiral2012here
    March 14, 2011 am31 1:30 pm

    …Con >>> EDIT: It is ok, but if someone does not agree with licking posters private parts, one gets banned

    …now that’s SICK dude, seriously!

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  27. #27 Con
    March 14, 2011 am31 1:32 pm

    Thank you Admiral25. I will check it out. I am naive and hope that nobody, no human soul was using that HAARP for harming so many souls. That is just me and keeping faith in the human heart. I heard that HAARP could have been used for those earthquakes. I just hope it is not true. How can anybody prove that it was used here? Assange is out of action. Oh man! Could some folks have used HAARP for this disaster? How is this permitted?

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  28. #28 BlueCube
    March 14, 2011 am31 1:55 pm

    Con 27 – have to agree whole-heartedly with you on this one. I can’t fathom humans creating & using such a ghastly device against fellow humans–simply can’t wrap my head around that concept. It isn’t, well, human.

    When sources imply a catastrophy was ‘manmade’ I want to think that it’s referring to the release of [manmade] negative energy that Gaia is releasing in order to allow herself–& us–to Ascend.

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  29. #29 JBiZ
    March 14, 2011 am31 1:55 pm

    Admiral -

    HAARP cannot be PROVEN to be the cause. It is an IDEA only. Can HAARP truly pull off what the hype suggests? Have you ever seen it in action? Did you build it? Have you used it?

    I think it was the GFL.

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  30. #30 Con
    March 14, 2011 am31 2:04 pm

    Admiral25: sorry about the edit.
    BlueCube: i actually cried today thinking of Japan. I was at a work meeting, and the woman who came to do the main speech is Japanese. At the end of the meeting, we asked her about what is going on there. She got confused, and I just started to shake and cry. She got totally agitated and spoke faster and faster. She started to talk about work again. I should not have done that, but I just had this great sadness within my heart for the country. And Japan meant nothing to me before 3 days ago. I really cannot see how anybody could press that button and make this happen on purpose. But then again, I am known for making mistakes.

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  31. #31 Admiral2012here
    March 14, 2011 am31 2:06 pm

    …JBiZ…you are so closed minded…Haarp is just an IDEA?, sure there is plenty of evidence…do your research. That was a silly remark >>> Did you build it…Seriously dude. Now why do you think the GFL did it…the GF is here to help – not to distruct

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  32. #32 Admiral2012here
    March 14, 2011 am31 2:08 pm
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  33. #33 JBiZ
    March 14, 2011 am31 2:21 pm

    Admiral –

    Of course its not the GFL. They are the good guys. How ridiculous of me. Of course. And where is the overwhelming catalog of evidence to support this?

    THERE ISN’T ANY!

    Like I’ve said time and time again, it doesn’t matter how many videos, testimonies, channeled transmissions, or “I swear to Gods” there is. These are all just IDEAS.

    At least I’m open minded enough to discredit everything.

    When I say I know, I cease to grow.

    You claim you know, ceasing growth. How can I be closed minded when you won’t even consider the GFL to be the Dark Cabal? You don’t have to BELIEVE that, but, to believe something over something else is effectively closed mindedness.

    Why insist on HAARP? There have always been earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, and tsunamis. These weather phenomenon have been occurring since BEFORE HAARP was built. But now, every single weather phenomenon gets blamed on HAARP?!?!

    Come on dude… SERIOUSLY???

    And I’m truly not trying to be a horses rear. Just use your brain man. Without any proof, without any evidence, you do not possess the truth, you possess a possibility. An IDEA. Nothing more.

    I only said the GFL did it because it carries about as much weight as your HAARP claim does. Surely you must see this.

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  34. #34 Admiral2012here
    March 14, 2011 am31 2:25 pm

    …JBiZ, you know why you don’t believe in anything, is because you are in denial. People go into denial out of fear of the Truth, they don’t want to see or believe that the unknown is possible

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  35. #35 Con
    March 14, 2011 am31 2:29 pm

    JBiZ and Admiral: you are both making perfect sense to me. You are making good points. Please stop making this a personal revenge thing. I like to hear your points, just don’t fight please. Not today at least out of respect for what is going on in the world. We want peace and love to happen on Earth, why not begin here and now?

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  36. #36 JBiZ
    March 14, 2011 am31 2:33 pm

    And I will forever argue against any claim if it is made with certainty.

    If asked to produce evidence and I’m pointed to You Tube or Wikipedia, that simply will not cut it.

    Some things are true: Gravity, Planetary Motion, Kepler’s Laws.

    Some things are false: The world is flat, man cannot fly, the Earth is the center of the universe.

    Some things are mysterious, meaning, we cannot objectively observe any evidence to either verify of falsify. Why not let these things exist in this mysterious realm? Why must we humans always seek the truth of an idea in areas we simply cannot understand or perceive?

    Lets say you can channel. I cannot. Your experience does everything to verify your claims, but it is not shared so, it cannot be used to verify with absolute certainty.

    That is just one example. Many more can be produced. All I’m saying is that, bold claims are nothing more than bold claims.

    I agree. The truth is out there and it may very well be true that HAARP caused the earthquake. Isn’t it also possible that Mother Nature just happened, as it has numerous times BEFORE the existence of HAARP?

    And while the GFL appear to be on ‘our side’, isn’t it remotely possible that they are INDEED part of the Dark Cabal? Anything is possible outside of the realm of the Absolutes.

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  37. #37 Laurinda
    March 14, 2011 am31 2:39 pm

    Con: A peaceful person would not have written post #10. You targeted me, and I have never even heard of you until this morning. I think that Japanese lady at your work, is making you stop and think today.

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  38. #38 JBiZ
    March 14, 2011 am31 2:42 pm

    Con -

    No worries. I happen to love and respect Admiral.

    Admiral -

    I do believe in the unknown or ‘mysterious’ realm. I just can’t explain it or prove it to anyone, that is why I let it exist as a mystery. Not true or false. Mystery.

    I know you didn’t outright say it was HAARP. I just feel as though in areas where the truth cannot be ascertained, why even force the issue?

    Again, no Blind Faith here. Sorry for that. But a do feel like I am here to keep some of you from floating too far away with this whole issue. I just don’t want anyone getting on ANY craft until we have a way to know for certain the who, what, when, why, where, and how of it.

    I have heard that our planet Earth is known throughout our galaxy as the Planet of Tears for we are the only planet in all of the Milky Way Galaxy that knows WAR. I’ve also heard that George Lucas channeled Star Wars and that it was a ‘true’ tale in the history of our galaxy. Do I believe any of it??? I’d like to. I truly would. But I simply cannot let it exist as truth in my mind because, its proper place is among the many mysteries I’ve heard along the way.

    Yet mystery is a value for truth since it is true that there is always in existence that which is outside of our perception, individually and collectively.

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  39. #39 Con
    March 14, 2011 am31 2:54 pm

    Laurinda: glad you are still reading my posts. I did not mean to target you today. I am just peed off that people get banned here. That is all. Sorry for my previous words. I just feel like poop because of the whole unresolved Japan nuclear situation. And the devastation and some bunch of kids on facebook today were saying that Japan got what they deserved for Pearl Harbour! Oh, boy! Did they get that wrong! I am confused with Matthew and Salusa not saying the same thing per say. I just wished nothing like this would ever have happened.
    JBiZ: I liked the Star Wars part. I thought of Princess Lea’s planet today: Tatouin. The whole planet got blasted by the dark force. Like the planet Lyra. I am glad you and Jim were sent to keep our feet on the ground.
    Admiral: I am glad you just know.

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  40. #40 Laurinda
    March 14, 2011 am31 3:17 pm

    Con: Your energy is very familiar, even though I have only known you as “Con” since this morning. Oh, and Lea’s planet of origin was Alderaan.

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  41. #41 Con
    March 14, 2011 am31 3:21 pm

    Alderaan: lol! yes! I get them mixed up! Luke was from Tatouin! thanks!

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  42. #42 dreamwalker
    March 14, 2011 am31 3:37 pm

    I dunno, JBiz, not sure if we have any proof that GF is dark cabal. There are two possibilities to this scenario, that there are 2 groups who want sort of the same thing (one ‘light’ and one ‘dark’ ) or one group masquerading as two different groups (ok, and the “mysterious” option).

    The fear reaction is to think back to Tim Burton’s Mars Attacks! movie. All peachy until the jellyheads take over!!!

    The catch-22 is that if this is the reaction you manifest, then if what they say is true then this is what will happen. Wrap your head around THAT! Smile

    I prefer to at least work on the brain training so maybe I can zap the baddies with brain lasers or something. What’s your plan?

    I can verify a few things they say that are beyond the 3d world, and I’ve stated as much, so I can confirm these on a personal level as being true. Your mileage may vary, I guess.

    There are some things you can do to verify these things yourself but these require effort and time. Jim was starting on one path that I know of (becoming a pipe carrier) – if you prefer to read about it, try “Black Elk Speaks”. There are many other paths, and I think you’re taking your own path already regardless of what you believe from the GFL.

    We all agree there needs to be changes, and I think we all believe (or at least hope) that there is a better future.

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  43. #43 Laurinda
    March 14, 2011 am31 3:38 pm

    Con: Didn’t you used to post here, but under another name???

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  44. #44 JBiZ
    March 14, 2011 am31 4:34 pm

    dreamwalker -

    Well put! I appreciate your perspective. I think you are starting to see the the beauty of the true/false/mystery construct or, ternary logic.

    The barking and bickering is necessary for the simple fact that we have emotions. That is why I plead with whomever has the authority, to TRULY be of the LIGHT, FORGIVE Jim, and allow his presence and perspective to be felt by all. Otherwise, we are giving into to that which already exists. Segregation. Division. Separation. We are ONE. Isn’t that the perspective the GFL insist we have in order to receive their cool gadgets?

    THIS IS ABSOLUTELY BONKERS!!!

    The one place that is SCREAMING we are ONE goes and BOOTS a user??? REALLY?!?!?!

    Certainly this MUST raise some questions for those who, like myself, possess a fair amount of common sense.

    And really, how ‘abusive’ can one really be with words over the internet? I’m sure we’ve all seen our fair share of the ‘darker’ exits the information super highway offers…

    If Jim is gone for good, I’ve TRULY lost all hope. The one place that I thought everyone was welcomed… Tisk Tisk.

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  45. #45 Admiral2012here
    March 14, 2011 am31 4:39 pm

    …JBiZ, as far as Jim being booted, what’s done is done, and with a lagitimate reason…LET IT GO!!!

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  46. #46 Reefer
    March 14, 2011 am31 4:50 pm
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  47. #47 spedman
    March 14, 2011 am31 4:52 pm

    ok here’s the deal and this is not a theory it is a fact. our sun goes through the galactic magnetic center every 13,000 years not the center of the galaxy… the plane that exist between top and bottom if you were looking at it sideways.. when this happens our sun, us, and all the other planets go haywire because of crossing this plane. it is zero point gravity and magnetics ….dont believe me take two round magnets and pass one over the side of the other one and watch it weird the hell out or at least make some kind of force movement. this is why we are having so many quakes and volcano’s going off. we are being twisted and pulled because of these forces… our sun, earth, and all the other planets have a huge magnetic field also so when ya think about this all the bobbing around, entering this plane is making all the planets and our sun weird out ..look at some of the photos of the sun showing it warp around. look at i think its j u p i t e r and see the top and bottom are heating up. another example… the oldest datable pyramid type structure found to date is off the coast of japan actually. they carbon dated the coral that is on it and it was dated between 12 to 13 thousand years old so that is around the time it sank into the ocean which also happens to be the last time we crossed galactic center. the reason i use this one as an example is because even though we can carbon date rock we don’t know when they were cut to make the pyramids that are above ground… the reason some say there only a few thousand years old is because they dated the things surrounding them like plates and clothes and whatever. soooo no HAARP no galatics just an event that happens and has happened and will continue to happen until our sun goes nova and and our lovely little planet is a brickette. No

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  48. #48 Laurinda
    March 14, 2011 am31 4:52 pm

    JBiZ: First of all, Jim is probably out there lurking anyhow, who cares? Second, words are used as weapons everyday on a free-will planet. Cruel words can deal a serious blow when said at just the right time. I am sure you weren’t born yesterday, right?!

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  49. #49 Laurinda
    March 14, 2011 am31 4:55 pm

    Sir Spedington: AHHHHHH, like a breath of Spring air—here you are to spread your precious light all over this blessed GM website!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes Yes

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  50. #50 Admiral2012here
    March 14, 2011 am31 5:05 pm

    …hey Reefer, I’ve always found that vid to be interesting

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  51. #51 Admiral2012here
    March 14, 2011 am31 5:05 pm

    …hey Sped, how’s it go’n man

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  52. #52 spedman
    March 14, 2011 am31 5:12 pm

    well yeah after spreadin myself all over 3d land today at the house fixin cars and junk i came here to see what was goin on. i hope i didnt ruffle feathers by what i said in 47 but i agree with some of the points we cant prove it was haarp we cant prove it was the galactics but we can look at shit with a telescope and see movements of where something is, the speed it is traveling away from other objects, and with that see where their going and where their coming from. if there is a spiritual reason for it also well then thats great but… it still on a plain to see level happening as i describe. love and light and all that funky shit lol

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  53. #53 Reefer
    March 14, 2011 am31 5:13 pm

    It does say a lot doesn’t it Admiral? Wink

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  54. #54 Gordon
    March 14, 2011 am31 5:16 pm

    So this is not the first time that SaLuSa and Matthew have a different opinion on the cause of a quake. If you go back, you’ll see the same exact difference regarding the Haiti quake. Matthew says it was the cabal, SaLuSa says it was natural.

    Channeling is not a 100% accurate process. The channeler is not like a radio receiver, he/she is often an imprecise filter. The channeler’s attitudes, beliefs and opinions all can affect the process. There is no way to tell who is correct, and you know, there may even be differences on the other side about what exactly happened and by whom.

    So, it is not the first time and will not be the last time that different channels, or even the same channel, present different information.

    Someone was saying that the moderators of this site made up rules retroactively. That’s not true, they have said on numerous occasions that they won’t allow verbal abuse of other members. And yes, verbal abuse is abuse. Physical abuse may hurt the body, but verbal abuse can wound the psyche. Of course it is a judgment call as to when disagreements have crossed the line, just like everything in life, there is no right answer. I think that in general the moderators of this site exercise restraint more often than not, and really try to give people free reign as much as possible.

    The lesson for lightworkers is NOT always to “get along” with everyone. The lesson for lightworkers is sometimes to set a boundary and enforce it if necessary. This applies to our personal relationships as well as social groups and moderated forums. It is an aspect of “victim” thinking that we must always learn to accept abuse and learn to make peace with our oppressors, forgive them, etc. No, this a dysfunctional pattern, ennabling. What’s called for sometimes is not ennabling, but tough love.

    Being a lightworker is not always about love and light, sometimes it is about being clear, standing in integrity–this is called being the spiritual warrior. It is a huge deal to do this kind of healing in difficult relationships. I imagine many of this site’s readers will relate to this because many of the lightworkers on this site have had difficult, abusive relationships where the resolution was not to learn to make peace with the abuse, but to have enough self-love to disengage from it.

    In the same way, the people of Libya are also showing the world that sometimes force is necessary to combat the dark.

    Laurinda, as always, thanks for your supportive comments the other day. I think of you as one who has walked this path.

    We are all one, but the One splintered into many parts, and those parts are working to reintegrate. Reintegration is a long complicated process, that takes many lifetimes. We are all at various stages on this growth process. We are One and not One at the same time, because we are in a process of growth toward Oneness, and it is very messy sometimes in that process.

    Part of this growth is occasionally being assertive and stopping some of our splinters who are rejecting oneness from blocking those of us who are interested in experiencing our oneness.

    Gordon

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  55. #55 dreamwalker
    March 14, 2011 am31 5:17 pm

    @JBiz, thanks.

    #47 cool Sped that would explain the rising and falling of atlantis/lemuria, which was supposedly around at that time too. Just don’t go buying any real estate there, because it will sink again once we move away from that magnetic force. From the things that I’ve read and seen both of these are 500 feet below sea level, so that’s going to be some pretty strong forces pulling at the planet. Not unfeasible though – we’re riding on a large lava orange with a relatively thin earthy crust on top.

    So you guys owe me a beer if they actually find Atlantis. Grin

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  56. #56 spedman
    March 14, 2011 am31 5:18 pm

    ad man it is going great ty. how are you?

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  57. #57 Admiral2012here
    March 14, 2011 am31 5:19 pm

    …funny Reefer, ya know when I clicked on your vid, I watched it and then arrowed back to the GM site, the vid is still play’n…it got lost out there somewhere in my laptop cyberspace. I can’t find a tab anywhere to shut it off. I’ll probably have to reboot, but listening to the sound effects of the vid is kinda cool…sounds like the whales voices in the ocean…relaxing

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  58. #58 spedman
    March 14, 2011 am31 5:22 pm

    gordon 54… i agree 100% with your talk about the lightworker lessons. Yes Yes Yes

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  59. #59 dreamwalker
    March 14, 2011 am31 5:23 pm

    #54 well put, not to mention the power of positive thinking. This to me is one of the key messages. And regardless of chanelled messages, it’s easy to do. If I could think of anything that would change a society, that would be it.

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  60. #60 spedman
    March 14, 2011 am31 5:25 pm

    LMAO @ dreamwalker…. noooo dont buy that property eeks.

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  61. #61 JBiZ
    March 14, 2011 am31 5:27 pm

    Admiral -

    Am I to understand that if I don’t “LET IT GO!!!” that I too could suffer the same fate?

    You took that rather personal. Are you the “man behind the curtain?”

    I could care less really. Just because I hit the CAPS BUTTON AND START TYPING LIKE THIS…
    doesn’t mean my heart rate gets up and I start acting all pissy. Not saying that you do that, but my point IS, I use all CAPS to emphasize my POINTS and get ATTENTION. It also helps the reader fully grasp what is being communicated.

    Grammar is so important when communicating online. Punctuation, NOT spelling (legitimate) Cool

    CAPS makes the whole exchange 3 dimensional.

    At any rate..

    This is slowly becoming an irrational forum. This is SOOO much more than Jim getting butt hurt yesterday and loosing his temper. The censorship here has more to do with a dismissal of logic and reason if you ask me. Which is fine. But don’t sell this forum as some True beckon of Light and Love when you do the same as the rest of us.

    All I’m saying is Jim got the ol ‘back of the bus’ bit and it aint pretty in the first place, but more atrocious coming from this forum than say, Perez Hilton’s blog.

    I’m here because I choose to be. So was Jim. The Dark Cabal censors and silences. Hmm… Galactic Messages censors and silences…

    Gee, I think I’m seeing a pattern.

    If Galactic Messages represents, on some level, the GFL, then, it stands to LOGIC AND REASON that the GFL is the Dark Cabal.

    To me, its all the same. Dark Cabal, GFL. Free will right? What if the majority DON’T want their help? What if a vast majority KNOW that we humans can do well on our own?

    I could care less because nothing has collectively been proven.

    Instead of wait and pray though, I’m with my fellow Human Beings here on Earth trying to raise our conscious levels regardless. That doesn’t come through wild claims backed up with You Tube videos and Wikipedia definitions. That comes through Logic and Reason. That is the True essence of our Being. The Emotional is just as true on a personal level, but you cannot share that with everyone.

    What do you all think Ascension is? It is the dismissal of the Ego-Emotions through the application of Logic and Reason so that Absolute Truth can be attained. Once Unconditional Love is attained, what do you people think happens? We remove ourselves from the Chaos.

    Absolute Truth is supported by the All in One because it is proven Logically and any Intelligent species would Naturally arrive at the same conclusion. It just stands to Reason.

    So here we are, at the whims of our Ego-Emotions. How else must it be explained?

    Everyone’s emotional response is different. Some people laugh when people fall. Some people cry at Hallmark commercials. Likewise, opinions are different for everyone. The likeness is that we ALL have opinions and emotions. They are not a barometer of Absolute Truth though when it comes to qualifying for every person. Especially in the Earth climate of deceit, lies, propaganda, etc.

    Any Idea can only become true when it is evident to All.

    With that said, what IS evident about this forum is that Forgiveness is NOT an element of Unconditional Love… at least as far as the GFL, Dark Cabal, and Galactic Messages are concerned. So sad…

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  62. #62 CarlFromCanada
    March 14, 2011 am31 5:28 pm

    Hey Quad,

    I am putting the number of days left because that is the only date I have seen Salsa mention. Other than soon. But I’m not putting all my hopes on that. But its still a date we have.

    I could have written what you said except replace engineer with computer programmer 

    I love science! Always have. But Science to me is not perfect. It doesn’t deal with non repeated experiences very well. That’s a good thing. But not when it comes to paranormal stuff. Which is fine.

    I have done many things in my quest.

    Joined a Ghost hunting paranormal group. Had one small experience but the people running it were not exactly the nicest people. They claimed to be enlightened but could not have been farther from that truth. I quit after they treated someone else in the group cruelly. They whole team was gone last time I checked.

    Joined a spiritualist Church. The people running it were amazing! Great people and very open and giving. I wasn’t really into the whole god thing though and gospel singing aint my thing  But I did learn a lot there. The psychics never could really “read” me though. But I did see some amazing readings for other people.

    Meditation. This was my first AHA moment. After a month of trying I started to get some really neat effects. I used to get this feeling of my body swaying back and forth like a weed in a river. VERY COOL! But for some reason that stopped happening?

    I see blue sparks. I have seen many doctors and opticians about it but no answers. I found out that a few people who have tried mediation experience those. I still get them, in fact while writing this got one. But no idea what they are.

    Had what I call contact from my grandmother. I’ll try to keep this brief. About 7 years ago this happened. Had a dream about my dead grandmother. She told me should would contact me in about 2 days using my cell phone. This dream was very real. I woke up and knew I had to write this down. It was about 2am but I knew that if I didn’t write it down I would forget what happened and I know memory is not reliable. SO for the first time in my life(31 at the time) I got out of bed and wrote it down. Now I do NOT get a lot of calls, in fact rarely more than once a week and its usually my gf. I also knew that my grandmother would not be calling me directly but was curious. Two days pass. Its 11:30pm. I have my cell phone with me, you know, just in case. IT freaken rings. I answer. “Hello is Mark there?”. “no I answer wrong number”. What is the significance of that? My Grandmothers last is Marks. Coincidence? Sure. But it happened to me. Its not someone else telling me a story. To me this was personal proof(not evidence) of something out there.

    Crap this is long okay. I have known two people to see UFO’s. One a star moving around at high speeds with changes of direction, and he is an amateur astronomist. Someone I trust saw a classic flying disk very close(40 feet?) when he was young. I know one guy who had a NDE, two people who have seen ghosts. These are not yahoo people. They are professionals who I respect. But our society discourages people to talk about these things. Its socially acceptable to make fun of them. Most people don’t talk about these things until they find out I’m open and won’t dismiss or try to disprove their experiences.

    OK so what the hell does this have to do with GFL? Well I’m willing to take a lot on faith. But not everything. I believe there is something after this life, I think there is something to UFos but I’m not sure what. I’m willing to even accept the GFL is some combinations of both. But ultimately I will expect proof. My mind isn’t wired for blind faith. I don’t think that is a bad thing. This place is big enough for all us of different beliefs as long as we respect each other.

    Blossom Goodchild’s failed prediction brought me into learning about the GFL. I’m sure that’s true for a lot of people. Maybe that was the purpose.

    OK spew over.

    Carl

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  63. #63 Laurinda
    March 14, 2011 am31 5:29 pm

    Gordon #54: Thank you and it is a real pleasure to see you up here this evening, and to read your words of wisdom! Rose

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  64. #64 JBiZ
    March 14, 2011 am31 5:44 pm

    Gordon #54

    Setting boundaries is lazy. The Light knows no boundaries. Light pierces all Darkness. That is the Absolute Truth.

    Perhaps your smaller truth is that YOU have to set boundaries. Me personally, I’ll go into any Darkness for a fellow Human Being. I won’t be lazy and shut anyone out. Think about schizophrenics. Not saying Jim was one but, say you have a boundary set that won’t allow people in who cuss. Well, your smaller truth, your BOUNDARY, effectively segregates those people from your little light. Are they missing much? Maybe. You have some insight.

    But setting boundaries is what got us into this thing in the first place. Remember? The fall… Atlantis was 5th dimensional, now we are back in good ol 3D. Doesn’t anyone see?

    Tough love Gordon? You sound like Dr. Phil.

    I miss Jim already. Everyone build their own wall from others now.

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  65. #65 Laurinda
    March 14, 2011 am31 5:46 pm

    JBiZ: You mention unconditional love, that’s a tall order in today’s world now isn’t it? You also mentioned forgiveness, also easier said than done, but more do-able than the unconditional love. How about respect, that seems like the easiest one of them all, and the most forgotten here, just like out in the greater world.

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  66. #66 Reefer
    March 14, 2011 am31 5:47 pm

    lol Admiral, maybe the vid was meant for you to listen to it Wink

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  67. #67 Reefer
    March 14, 2011 am31 5:50 pm

    It’s normal that you miss Jim JBiZ, you’re starting to sound just like him!

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  68. #68 Admiral2012here
    March 14, 2011 am31 5:50 pm

    …JBiZ >>> I miss Jim already

    …is Jim your savior; can’t you listen to your own inner voice and find your own path without relying on someone else to show you the way

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  69. #69 JBiZ
    March 14, 2011 am31 5:51 pm

    Laurinda –

    Define your terms –>respect<—

    Also, why is it so hard to love unconditionally? Why so hard to forgive? If you know it all to be illusion anyway, what does it really matter?

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  70. #70 JBiZ
    March 14, 2011 am31 5:54 pm

    Admiral -

    I don’t believe in an external savior as you suggest. As mentioned before, my allies are Logic and Reason. Empirical evidence everyone can share.

    I’m not trying to be the brightest star in the galaxy. Thats just silly when we are all the same Light.

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  71. #71 Admiral2012here
    March 14, 2011 am31 5:54 pm

    …JBiZ >>> You took that rather personal. Are you the “man behind the curtain?”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb45tJhzmcI

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  72. #72 JBiZ
    March 14, 2011 am31 5:56 pm

    These threads need to auto refresh… its harder to juggle this many conversations…

    Reefer -

    Good thing someone stands in defense of logic and reason in here. Jim was definitely a rational voice in this ‘ethereal’ moaning prayer to our star family. Would it surprise anyone in here if we answered our own prayers?

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  73. #73 Kellia
    March 14, 2011 am31 5:59 pm

    Breaking News Alert
    The New York Times
    Mon, March 14, 2011 — 8:00 PM ET
    —–

    New Blast Reported at Japanese Nuclear Plant as Workers Struggle to Cool Reactor

    An explosion early Tuesday morning may have damaged the inner
    steel containment vessel of the No. 2 reactor at Japan’s
    Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station, leading to the wide
    release of radioactive materials there and forcing the
    evacuation of emergency workers, the plant’s operator said.

    The blast appeared to be different — and more severe — than
    those that at two other troubled reactor at the same nuclear
    complex because this one, reported to have occurred at 6:14
    a.m., happened in the “pressure suppression room” in the
    cooling area of the reactor, raising the possibility to
    damage to the reactor’s containment vessel.

    Read More:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/15/world/asia/15nuclear.html?emc=na

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  74. #74 Laurinda
    March 14, 2011 am31 6:00 pm

    JBiz: Respect= not bullying others, oh, and #10 is a good example of the lack thereof, oh, and maybe respect is someone who refuses to demean others in any way. Respect is allowing a diversity of opinions to flourish, without putting down others, and acting as if they are stupid just because they do not agree. Hey, here’s a good one for ya: Respect is treating others and receiving others with an open heart. I think some folks have a tough time with forgiveness, because they basically don’t forgive themselves. All an illusion you say? Well maybe when you cross over you see this, but down here in 3D it can feel mighty different sometimes.

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  75. #75 JBiZ
    March 14, 2011 am31 6:05 pm

    Laurinda -

    Letting go of 3D is what is required. I didn’t right the book, but it makes sense when I read it. I don’t remember offending you but you seem to be taking an offensive tone. I could be wrong…

    #10 was harsh btw….

    I don’t recall disrespecting anyone. I hope I’ve tried to show the difference between Light and light, Truth and truth, Self and self…

    If something is lost in translation, I have no boundaries, feel free to ask.

    I will ask, are you lashing out at me?

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  76. #76 Admiral2012here
    March 14, 2011 am31 6:06 pm

    …Kellia, I have faith that the GF are there at the nuclear site, to lesson the damage…they are always help’n us the best way they can

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  77. #77 JBiZ
    March 14, 2011 am31 6:06 pm

    Laurinda –

    Jim was totally provoked yesterday. I read the entire thread. If I must, I’ll reproduce.

    Maybe it is a dead issue… but I really thought this place was different…

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  78. #78 Laurinda
    March 14, 2011 am31 6:09 pm

    LBiZ: Nope, not lashing out, why would I do that when we are discussing respect? You asked for my definition, and I gave it to you.

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  79. #79 CarlFromCanada
    March 14, 2011 am31 6:12 pm

    Jbiz love your messages. But Jim just wasn’t one day. I have seen him be a jerk lots of times. Ya sometimes others are not nice but he did that a lot.

    Besides Admiral is just a user here. He seems to get upset when we debate stuff but we don’t have to do what he says.

    Carl

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  80. #80 CarlFromCanada
    March 14, 2011 am31 6:14 pm

    Oh and I agree with Matthew and Blue Cube. I think con is Jim’s duplicate account. 8)

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  81. #81 Admiral2012here
    March 14, 2011 am31 6:15 pm

    …CFC >>> Besides Admiral is just a user here

    …please explain

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  82. #82 Gordon
    March 14, 2011 am31 6:16 pm

    JBiz, the issue is reality is messy. The real world is, at least for now, a 3D world. And although unconditional love and the Absolute Truth that Light pierces all darkness are great ideas, they are abstractions from an ideal world. Absolute Truth and unconditional love are the properties of God, not the imperfect beings that we currently know ourselves as. Yes, from the God perspective, absolutely, you are correct, the abusers are loved unconditionally.

    The question here is how do we deal with people in the meantime. How do we maintain and defend our space in a world with people at all levels of consciousness and with all different motives. When you’re in a position of responsibility, you have to account for the day-to-day reality, the day-to-day emotional imapacts on real people, the day-to-day vibration that is preserved or lost. As a moderator of a forum, you can’t use these idealistic notions as your guide to making good choices.

    I used to think more like you now talk, and I have to admit, it is hard for me to be on the side of booting someone out of a community. It seems “mean”, negative, to exercise authority. As I’ve gotten older, I have realized that the good does not flourish on neglect. The good is constantly under siege, and little oases have to be created to nurture it. The good needs tending, the garden needs to be weeded and protected from rampant overgrowth.

    It’s just life in 3D, and no, it’s not obvious until you’ve had the life experience that shows that this is the way it is.

    Spedman, thanks for your support and it’s nice to see you here again!

    Gordon

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  83. #83 CarlFromCanada
    March 14, 2011 am31 6:17 pm

    #81 your not an forum moderator.

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  84. #84 JBiZ
    March 14, 2011 am31 6:18 pm

    Carl -

    Thanks man!

    Spedman -

    Loved your explanation from #47. Great insight. My astronomy class bolsters you information.

    Laurinda -

    Just making sure. You have some sass and zest that I may have mistake as a lash… Thinking

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  85. #85 Laurinda
    March 14, 2011 am31 6:20 pm

    JBiz: Well, if its a dead issue why harp on it? You have been stirring the pot all day. Everyone here is free to come and go as they choose.

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  86. #86 Admiral2012here
    March 14, 2011 am31 6:22 pm

    …CFC >>> #81 your not an forum moderator

    …I know that, so how am I a user?

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  87. #87 Laurinda
    March 14, 2011 am31 6:23 pm

    JBiZ: I come from a warrior heritage, and sometimes I just get frustrated with what goes on here.

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  88. #88 CarlFromCanada
    March 14, 2011 am31 6:27 pm

    #86 erm not sure what your asking. Your just a normal user of this forum like the rest of us. I wasn’t trying to insult you.

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  89. #89 Admiral2012here
    March 14, 2011 am31 6:30 pm

    …Stick should be com’n around soon

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7QCbCwmtXc

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  90. #90 spedman
    March 14, 2011 am31 6:34 pm

    wooooooooo weeee thanx jbiz i wrote that and was thinkin.. OMG i hope i got that right. lol i dont know a whole lot about any particular subject but i collect enough bits and pieces to try and make some sense to myself and hopefully to others Smile

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  91. #91 spedman
    March 14, 2011 am31 6:35 pm

    hey ad man break out an old copy of tron and you’ll know what cfc is talkin about Smile

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  92. #92 JBiZ
    March 14, 2011 am31 6:37 pm

    Gordon -

    Our environment must be changed. Life needs must be met for the entire species. This would remedy most, if not all aberrant behavior giving rise to a more equal society. A more sane society.

    I do support a solution by advocating Jacque Fresco’s Future By Design, his ideas of a Resource-Based Economy, and the Venus Project’s direction as a whole. I love it because it is the Human answer to our Human Condition. It is what all of us Humans, in my opinion, should be concerning ourselves with.

    Awakening to our Human Potential does not involve Disclosure or alien technology. It involves a shift in our collective value system. Wars are only fought because there are armies. Armies exist because there are wars. Chicken or egg, chicken or egg…

    The Truth is, both are born from Ideas being in conflict. It’s ok for our Ideas to conflict. Rational beings though, understand that the conflict ends there. Irrational beings, such as our infant species, still react to emotional ‘flight or fight’ stimuli. We have stone age thinking in the technological age. We are yet to be civilized.

    I do think intelligent life is out there and I do think that we are being monitored and it doesn’t surprise me other intelligent life would be concerned with a species who blows themselves up and can also navigate space (however crudely).

    All that aside, I’m more concerned that my fellow man, influenced by a Dark Cabal or not, is so lost in the pursuit of money and power, that the many are left to suffer. I take my message to the many. I take my solution, Jacque Fresco’s solution to the masses. I find strength in numbers when communicating with my Earth brothers and sisters.

    It makes me smile to see the look on their faces when they realize that this Idea can be shared. Achieved is yet to be seen, but for now, we learn to share.

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  93. #93 dreamwalker
    March 14, 2011 am31 6:41 pm

    #62 Carl I really appreciate you posting your experience with your grandmother.

    I had 5 similar experiences with relatives or people I’ve known, two with my grandmother. The first was having tea with her, which I mentioned before. The second was kind of funny – in the dream, I am in her house sleeping in the guest room, and heard the phone ringing next to me. So I’m waking up in the guest room of her house. It’s one of those phones with the rotary dialler, a kind of heavy beige color phone. So I answer the phone, and it’s her voice on the other end. “I’m Baaaaack!” she says (just like in close encounters of the 3rd kind). And the dream ends. I was crapping myself for 3 or 4 days after that! And laughing too, because she had a really offbeat humor, and I knew that could only be her.

    As to the lights, I’ve seen them in 2 other “visit” type dreams. In those dreams, they’re kind of these light-colored glowing orbs which is their spirit. I remember my Grandfather was a white orb, my cousin was an aqua color. Pretty neat. When I was enveloped by them I could “feel” their essence, kind of like when you give someone a hug. Pretty neat eh?

    Those orbs can also be seen in yuwipi ceremonies, even in daylight. It’s a first nation’s ceremony that means literally “wrapped up”. It’s the only other place I’ve seen them.

    The law of conservation of energy has been thrown around as the reason spirits exist. You can’t destroy energy.

    Not sure if that’s what you’re seeing though – meditation does tend to open up other areas of your mind, so maybe it’s something like that.

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  94. #94 Admiral2012here
    March 14, 2011 am31 6:43 pm
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  95. #95 Stick
    March 14, 2011 am31 6:50 pm

    JBiZ: I would also submit that Jim’s final rant simply represents ‘the straw that broke the camels back.’ To say the GM Dudettes gave Jim a lot of rope to express himself is an understatement… the fact that he chose to hang himself with it, was his choice. The suggestion that HE was provoked to a point where he couldn’t contain the disdain and contempt he felt for most here is laughable. -Look, I know you miss the guy, but if you’re going to spend so much time defending him, take the time to read ALL of the writing on the wall. You say you need evidence right? Well most of it’s there… with the exception of the posts that Jim deleted himself because he was too ashamed(?) to let them stand on there own.

    jeff#283 last thread: Powerful words… you should share more often.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzGnX-MbYE4
    ~AscensionCalling247——————- Clock Thunder Yin Yang

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  96. #96 Stick
    March 14, 2011 am31 6:55 pm

    #89: You called it Admiral… too funny Lion

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  97. #97 spedman
    March 14, 2011 am31 6:57 pm

    OK SOOOOOOOOO I’M GONNA USE CAPS ON THIS ONE LOLOL CAUSE I A SILLY ASS LIKE THAT… MU HU HA HA. HOW ABOUT TOMORROW….(UNLESS IT ALREADY IS TOMORROW WHERE YOU LIVE) NO ONE SAY ANYTHING TO ANYONE ABOUT OLD ARGUMENTS OR THE WHY’S AND WHAT FOR’S THEY INCLINE ??????????. ATLEAST FOR A WHOLE DAY LOL WE CAN DO THAT CANT WE??? 24 STINKEENG LITTLE HOURS MANG!!!! HEY YOU CAN EVEN CHEAT AND JUST WAIT AND POST THEM THE NEXT DAY Silly Silly Silly Silly Silly OR EVEN SILLIER IF YOUR GONNA BITCH….YOU HAVE TO DO IT IN OPERA SINGING STYLE. YOU CAN BE THE FAT LADY OR THE GUY WEARIN A VIKINGS HELMET JUST MAKE IT A SONG…. Smile Smile HERE’S AN EXAMPLE…. YOU COULD SING/SAY LIKE…. “THOUUUUUUUUUUU HAS FORSAKEN MY KNO HA LEDDDDGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. I SHALL SMITEITH THEEEEEEEEEEEE FOR SMASHIN MYYYYYYYYYYY EE HA HEEEEGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. OK I’M GOIN BACK TO THE WHITE ROOM FOR A FEW Silly Silly Silly Silly Silly Silly Silly Silly Silly Silly Silly

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  98. #98 Laurinda
    March 14, 2011 am31 7:06 pm

    Stick: Tell it like it REALLY is my brother!!! Keepin’ it real, we can always count on you to do that… Grin As for you Sir Spedington, OMG toooo fuuunnnyyy AS ALWAYS!!! Grin

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  99. #99 Stick
    March 14, 2011 am31 7:06 pm

    So, what is real? You might dig this JBiZ…

    **Does Consciousness Depend on the Brain?** by Chris Carter

    In this materialistic age, dualists are often accused of smuggling outmoded religious beliefs back into science, of introducing superfluous spiritual forces into biology, and of venerating an invisible “ghost in the machine.” However, our utter ignorance concerning the real origins of human consciousness marks such criticism more a matter of taste than of logical thinking. At this stage of mind science, dualism is not irrational, merely somewhat unfashionable. –Physicist Nick Herbert, Elemental Mind.

    In March 1987 Dawn Gillott was admitted to Northampton General Hospital, seriously ill with pneumonia. After being placed in intensive care, the physicians decided to perform a tracheotomy because she could not breathe.

    The next thing I was above myself near the ceiling looking down. One of the nurses was saying in what seemed a frantic voice, ‘Breathe, Dawn, breathe.’ A doctor was pressing my chest, drips were being disconnected, everyone was rushing round. I couldn’t understand the panic, I wasn’t in pain. Then they pushed my body out of the room to the theatre. I followed my body out of the ITU and then left on what I can only describe as a journey of a lifetime.

    I went down what seemed like a cylindrical tunnel with a bright warm inviting light at the end. I seemed to be traveling at quite a speed, but I was happy, no pain, just peace. At the end was a beautiful open field, a wonderful summery smell of flowers. There was a bench seat on the right where my Grandfather sat (he had been dead seven years). I sat next to him. He asked me how I was and the family. I said I was happy and content and all my family were fine.

    He said he was worried about my son; my son needed his mother, he was too young to be left. I told Grampi I didn’t want to go back, I wanted to stay with him. But Grampi insisted I go back for my children’s sake. I then asked him if he would come for me when my time came. He started to answer, ‘Yes, I will be back in four’ — then my whole body seemed to jump. I looked round and saw that I was back in the ITU.

    I honestly believe in what happened, that there is life after death. After my experience I am not afraid of death as I was before my illness.[i]

    ~The near-death experience described above is not rare. Hundreds of similar cases — involving people reporting that while seriously ill or injured they left their bodies, observed the surrounding scene, entered a tunnel, emerged in another world where they meet deceased friends or relatives before returning to their bodies — have been documented in several different countries. The case above is not even a particularly impressive one. At first glance, such cases seem to indicate that under life-threatening circumstances the conscious part of us is capable of detaching from our physical bodies, and may travel to another world. The overwhelming majority of those who have had such experiences are convinced of the existence of an afterlife.

    However, there are those that disagree, and who argue that such experiences simply cannot be what they at first seem to be. The strongest arguments against the existence of an afterlife are those that deny the possibility of consciousness existing apart from the biological brain.

    The Greek atomists were the first to define the soul in terms of material atoms. Epicurus (342-270 BC) defined the soul as “a body of fine particles …most resembling breath with an admixture of heat.” He stressed the complete dependence of soul on body, so that when the body loses breath and heat, the soul is dispersed and extinguished. The Roman poet Lucretius (99-55 BC) took up the arguments of Epicurus, and continued the atomist tradition of describing the mind as composed of extremely fine particles. Lucretius wrote one of the earliest and most cogent treatises advancing the arguments that the relation between mind and body is so close that the mind depends upon the body and therefore cannot exist without it. First, he argued that the mind matures and ages with the growth and decay of the body; second, that wine and disease of the body can affect the mind; third, the mind is disturbed when the body is stunned by a blow; and finally, if the soul is immortal, why does it have no memories of its previous existence? Similar arguments, to the effect that the mind is a function of the brain, were taken up with greater force nineteen centuries later, in the work of men such as Thomas Huxley.

    More recently, Corliss Lamont, former president of the American Humanist Association, has written one of the most extensive statements of the materialist positions in his book The Illusion of Immortality, the title of which speaks for itself. He tells us in the preface that he started out as a believer in a future life, but does not give us the reasons why he held the belief against which he reacted so strongly.

    Lamont rightly contends that the fundamental issue is the relationship of personality to body, and divides the various positions into two broad categories: monism, which asserts that body and personality are bound together and cannot exist apart; and dualism, which asserts that body and personality are separable entities which may exist apart. Lamont is convinced that the facts of modern science weigh heavily in favor of monism, and offers the following as scientific evidence that the mind depends upon the body:

    -in the evolutionary process the versatility of living forms increases with the development and complexity of their nervous systems

    -the mind matures and ages with the growth and decay of the body
    alcohol, caffeine, and other drugs can affect the mind.

    -destruction of brain tissue by disease, or by a severe blow to the head, can impair normal mental activity; the functions of seeing, hearing and speech are correlated with specific areas of the brain.

    -thinking and memory depend upon the cortex of the brain, and so “it is difficult beyond measure to understand how they could survive after the dissolution, decay or destruction of the living brain in which they had their original locus.”[ii]

    These considerations lead Lamont to the conclusion that the connection between mind and body “is so exceedingly intimate that it becomes inconceivable how one could function without the other … man is a unified whole of mind-body or personality-body so closely and completely integrated that dividing him up into two separate and more or less independent parts becomes impermissible and unintelligible.”[iii]

    Lamont briefly considers the findings of psychical research, but contends that they do not alter the picture, because of the possibility of other interpretations, such as fraud and telepathy.[1]

    In summary, the various arguments against the possibility of survival are: the effects of age, disease, and drugs on the mind; the effect of brain damage on mental activity, and specifically, the fact that lesions of certain regions of the brain eliminates or impairs particular capacities; and the idea that memories are stored in the brain and therefore cannot survive the destruction of the brain. The inference drawn from these observations is that the correlation of mental and physical processes is so close that it is inconceivable how the mind could exist apart from the brain. Except for the appeals of the modern writers to the terminology of neuroscience, the arguments advanced in favor of the dependence of the mental on the physical are essentially the same as those advanced by Lucretius.

    *The Issues at Stake

    There are really two separate issues here: one is the logical possibility of survival, and the other is the empirical possibility. The arguments of the epiphenomenalists, the identity theorists, and the behaviorists are logically inconsistent with the idea of survival: if consciousness is merely a useless by-product of brain activity, or is identical with brain activity, or does not really exist except as observed behavior, then obviously what we call consciousness cannot survive the destruction of the brain. However, as we have seen earlier, there seems to be compelling reasons for rejecting the first of these theories, and it is questionable if the latter two theories are at all consistent with observation and introspection — or for that matter, are anything more than just silly.

    If however, we are willing to admit the existence of consciousness and not only as a useless by-product, then the post-mortem existence of consciousness is at least a logical possibility — that is, there is no self-contradiction in the assertion that consciousness may exist in the absence of a brain. Then the question becomes whether or not survival is an empirical possibility – that is, whether or not the idea of survival is compatible with the facts and laws of nature as currently understood.

    *Implicit Assumption Behind the Empirical Arguments Against the Possibility of Survival

    All the arguments mentioned above that are opposed to the empirical possibility of survival are based upon a certain assumption of the relationship between mind and body that usually goes unstated. For instance, one of the arguments mentioned earlier starts with the observation that a severe blow to the head can cause the cessation of consciousness; from this it is concluded that consciousness is produced by a properly functioning brain, and so cannot exist in its absence.

    However, this conclusion is not based on the evidence alone. There is an implicit, unstated assumption behind this argument, and it is often unconsciously employed. The hidden premise behind this argument can be illustrated with the analogy of listening to music on a radio, smashing the radio’s receiver, and thereby concluding that the radio was producing the music. The implicit assumption made in all the arguments discussed above was that the relationship between brain activity and consciousness was always one of cause to effect, and never that of effect to cause. But this assumption is not known to be true, and it is not the only conceivable one consistent with the observed facts mentioned earlier. Just as consistent with the observed facts is the idea that the brain’s function is that of an intermediary between mind and body — or in other words, that the brain’s function is that of a two-way receiver-transmitter — sometimes from body to mind, and sometimes from mind to body.

    The idea that the brain functions as an intermediary between mind and body is an ancient one. Hippocrates described the brain as “the messenger to consciousness” and as “the interpreter for consciousness.” But, like the materialist theory, this ancient argument also has its modern proponents — most notably Schiller, Bergson, and James.

    Ferdinand Schiller was an Oxford philosopher in 1891 when a book titled Riddles of the Sphinx appeared which, according to the cover, was written by a “Troglodyte” (cave-dweller). This troglodyte turned out to be Schiller, who in his book attacked the prevailing materialism of the late nineteenth without revealing his name in order to avoid “the barren honours of a useless martyrdom.” Schiller likened himself to the man in Plato’s Republic who has glimpsed the truth but finds that his fellow cave-dwellers simply do not believe his accounts, and so consider him ridiculous.

    In his book Schiller proposes that “matter is admirably calculated machinery for regulating, limiting and restraining the consciousness which it encases.” He argues that the simpler physical structure of “lower beings” depresses their consciousness to a lower point, and that the higher organizational complexity of man allows a higher level of consciousness. In other words,

    Matter is not what produces consciousness but what limits it and confines its intensity within certain limits … This explanation admits the connection of Matter and Consciousness, but contends that the course of interpretation must proceed in the contrary direction. Thus it will fit the facts which Materialism rejected as ‘supernatural’ and thereby attains to an explanation which is ultimately tenable instead of one which is ultimately absurd. And it is an explanation the possibility of which no evidence in favour of Materialism can possibly affect.[iv]

    As for the effects of brain injury, Schiller argues that an equally good explanation is to say that the manifestation of consciousness has been prevented by the injury, rather than extinguished by it. With regard to memory, he thinks that it is forgetfulness rather than memory that is in need of a physical explanation: pointing out the total recall experienced under hypnosis and “the extraordinary memories of the drowning and dying generally”, he argues that we never really forget anything, but rather are prevented from recalling it by the limitations of the brain.

    The French philosopher Henri Bergson held similar ideas to those of Schiller, although it is unclear if he ever read Riddles of the Sphinx. Bergson attempted to reconcile physical determinism with the apparent freedom of human behavior by proposing a theory of evolution whereby matter is crossed by creative consciousness: matter and consciousness interact, with both being elemental components of the universe, neither reducible to the other.

    According to Bergson the brain canalizes and limits the mind, restricting its focus of attention and excluding factors irrelevant for the organism’s survival and propagation. He assumed that memories have an extra-cerebral location, but that most are normally screened out for practical purposes, and in support of this, refers to near-death experiences in which the subjects’ entire life histories flashed before their eyes. The brain is therefore both “the organ of attention to life” and an obstacle to wider awareness. He speculates that if the brain is a limiting obstacle, filtering out forms of consciousness not necessary for the organism’s biological needs, then freedom from the body may well result in a more extended form of consciousness, which continues along its path of creative evolution.

    In 1898 the American psychologist and philosopher William James delivered the Ingersoll Lecture. At the start of the lecture he first remarks that “Every one knows that arrests of brain development occasion imbecility, that blows on the head abolish memory or consciousness, and that brain-stimulants and poisons change the quality of our ideas.” He then makes the point that modern physiologists “have only shown this generally admitted fact of a dependence to be detailed and minute” in that “the various special forms of thinking are functions of special portions of the brain.”

    James then explores the various possibilities for the exact type of functional dependence between the brain and consciousness. It is normally thought of as productive, in the sense that steam is produced as a function of the kettle. But this is not the only form of function that we find in nature: we also have at least two other forms of functional dependence: the permissive function, as found in the trigger of a crossbow; and the transmissive function, as of a lens or a prism. The lens or prism do not produce the light but merely transmit it in a different form. As James writes,

    Similarly, the keys of an organ have only a transmissive function. They open successively the various pipes and let the wind in the air-chest escape in various ways. The voices of the various pipes are constituted by the columns of air trembling as they emerge. But the air is not engendered in the organ. The organ proper, as distinguished from its air-chest, is only an apparatus for letting portions of it loose upon the world in these peculiarly limited shapes.

    My thesis now is this, that, when we think of the law that thought is a function of the brain, we are not required to think of productive function only; we are entitled also to consider permissive or transmissive function. And this, the ordinary psychophysiologist leaves out of his account.

    James then raises an objection to the transmissive theory of the body-mind relationship: yes, the transmission hypothesis may be a logical possibility, but isn’t it just unbridled speculation? Isn’t the production hypothesis simpler? Is it not more rigorously scientific to take the relationship between brain and mind to be one of production, not transmission?

    But as James points out, from the standpoint of strictly empirical science, these objections carry no weight whatsoever. Strictly speaking, the most we can ever observe is concomitant variation between states of the brain and states of mind — when brain activity changes in a certain way, then consciousness changes also. The hypothesis of production, or of transmission, is something that we add to the observations of concomitant variation in order to account for it. A scientist never observes states of the brain producing states of consciousness. Indeed, it is not even clear what we could possibly mean by observing such production.

    And as for the objection that the transmission hypothesis is somehow fantastic, exactly the same objection can be raised against the production theory. In the case of the production of steam by a kettle we have an easily understood model — of alterations of molecular motion — because the components that change are physically homogenous with each other. But part of the reason the mind-body relationship has seemed so puzzling for so long is because mental and physical events seem so completely unlike each other. This radical difference in their natures makes it exceedingly difficult to conceptualize the relationship between the two in terms of anything of which we are familiar. It is partly for this reason that even though it has been more than a century since James delivered his lecture, in all that time neither psychology nor physiology has been able to produce any intelligible model of how biochemical processes could possibly be transformed into conscious experience.

    It has been pointed out many times that there is no logical requirement that only “like can cause like” — or in other words, that only things of a similar nature can affect each other. But this consideration has not removed the mystery from the mind-body relationship. As James wrote, the production of consciousness by the brain, if it does in fact occur, is “as far as our understanding goes, as great a miracle as if we said, thought is ‘spontaneously generated,’ or ‘created out of nothing.’”

    The theory of production is therefore not a jot more simple or credible in itself than any other conceivable theory. It is only a little more popular. All that one need do, therefore, if the ordinary materialist should challenge one to explain how the brain can be an organ for limiting and determining to a certain form a consciousness elsewhere produced, is to ask him in turn to explain how it can be an organ for producing consciousness out of whole cloth. For polemic purposes, the two theories are thus exactly on a par.

    In short, James elaborated lines of reasoning laid out earlier by Schiller, and argued that the dependence of consciousness on the brain for the manner of its manifestation in the material world does not imply that consciousness depends upon the brain for its existence. At the end of his book The Varieties of Religious Experience he admits to being impressed by the research of Myers and other members of the Society for Psychical Research, and concludes that the issue of survival is a case for the testimony of the facts to settle.

    James wrote these works around the turn of the nineteenth century, but since then these arguments have been endorsed and developed by several more recent philosophers, neurologists, and psychologists, such as philosophers Curt Ducasse and David Lund, neurologist Gary Schwartz, and psychologist Cyril Burt. The latter elegantly summarized the position set forth earlier by Schiller, Bergson, and James:

    The brain is not an organ that generates consciousness, but rather an instrument evolved to transmit and limit the processes of consciousness and of conscious attention so as to restrict them to those aspects of the material environment which at any moment are crucial for the terrestrial success of the individual. In that case such phenomena as telepathy and clairvoyance would be merely instances in which some of the limitations were removed.[v]

    The argument in its essence is that the transmission and production hypotheses are equally compatible with the facts materialism tries to explain — such as the effects of senility, drugs, and brain damage on consciousness — but that the hypothesis of transmission has the advantage of providing a framework for understanding other phenomena that must remain utterly inexplicable by the hypothesis of materialism.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgBViHeiSKM
    ~TheDesertOfTheReal999——————- TV Thunder Star

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  100. #100 dreamwalker
    March 14, 2011 am31 7:12 pm

    Hey guys, this Mona Lisa thing has been puzzling me for some time:

    http://www.viewzone.com/monalisa.html

    6 fingers – systems of 12. 12 planets, etc. Ring any bells?

    I’ve seen a lot of arguments for and against this thing. If it’s true, there’s your proof. There’s also some more vids on youtube of the mission.

    If it’s false it’s an awfully elaborate hoax. The attention to detail would be, well, motion-picture expensive, if you think about it. If not more. And for what gain, exactly?

    I dunno, there’s something that rings true to me about it. Anyone want to burst my bubble on this one?

    I guess unless someone can produce a body it will simply remain a mystery. Smile

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  101. #101 dreamwalker
    March 14, 2011 am31 7:15 pm

    #97 rofl GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SPEDDDDDDMANNNNNN!!!!!!!

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  102. #102 Stick
    March 14, 2011 am31 7:15 pm

    Wow, #99 was a long one… makes me think of Brother Drago Lion

    Sped: Your humor was truly missed Silly

    Laurinda: Definitely tryin to ‘keep it real’… it can just be difficult sometimes while still stuck in the ‘Illusion’ Wink

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  103. #103 Kellia
    March 14, 2011 am31 7:30 pm

    News Updates from Citizens For Legitimate Government
    14 Mar 2011
    http://www.legitgov.org
    All links are here:
    http://www.legitgov.org/#breaking_news

    Urgent breaking: Radiation Is Leaking At Ibaraki –Radiation leaking due to core problem at Fukushima Unit 2 Nuclear Reactor 15 Mar 2011 [This story will be updated.]

    Breaking: Explosion at Fukushima Unit 2 Nuclear Reactor: Government –’Most ominous news’ –75 Kilometers have been evacuated. Evacuation zones to be expanded. (Fox News) Japanese government confirms the explosion. Sirens heard in Tokyo, an early warning sign of tremors, not related to the nuclear issue. [This story will be updated.]

    Japan Reports: Explosion At Third Reactor –Govt trying to prevent meltdowns in three nuclear reactors 14 Mar 2011 A fresh explosion was heard on Tuesday at a quake-stricken Japanese nuclear power plant, the country’s nuclear safety agency said. Authorities at the Fukushima Daiichi complex, damaged in Friday’s 9.0 magnitude earthquake and tsunami, are trying to prevent meltdowns in three of the plant’s nuclear reactors. Two previous explosions ripped through unit 1 and 3 reactor buildings, but these had not damaged the nuclear vessels, authorities have said. There was no immediate word on any damage from this third blast, which is now believed to have occurred in the remaining reactor, unit 2.

    Plutonium threat at Japan reactor, expert warns –The Fukushima facility began using MOX fuel last September, becoming the third plant in Japan to do so. 14 Mar 2011 The fuel used in the Japanese nuclear reactor where an explosion occurred today is more volatile and toxic than the fuel used in the other reactors there, a Japanese nuclear expert warned. At a press conference in Tokyo, Masashi Goto, who worked for Toshiba as a reactor researcher and designer, said the mixed oxide (MOX) fuel used in unit 3 of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant contains plutonium, which is much more toxic than the fuel used in the other reactors. MOX fuel is a mixture of uranium and plutonium reprocessed from spent uranium, and is sometimes involved in the disposal of weapons-grade plutonium.

    Admiral-you have more faith than I. The news gets worse with every report and all I hear from GFL is soon, very soon, and we have to follow your protocols. Whose protocols? The Illuminati’s?

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  104. #104 Kellia
    March 14, 2011 am31 7:33 pm

    Obama Stands By Nuclear Power
    March 14, 2011 by legitgov
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    Obama Stands By Nuclear Power 14 Mar 2011 Obama administration officials Monday brushed aside calls for a freeze on new U.S. nuclear power development, and sought to reassure the public the nation’s nuclear facilities are safe and the threat of harmful radiation reaching U.S. soil from Japan is minimal. Meanwhile, the U.S. was sending more technical experts to Japan to get more information about the damaged nuclear reactors there as Japanese crews scrambled to prevent meltdowns at the facilities. [Remember the Exelon fiasco for which most members of the left gave him a pass? Corporate-owned Obusha is *still* giving billions to his nuclear industry overlords even nuclear catastrophe won't stop him from funding construction of the plants! *Primary Obusha in 2012* - since we can't impeach, apparently! --LRP]

    This guy’s a Lightworker? Yeah, and I’m the Queen of England!

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  105. #105 JBiZ
    March 14, 2011 am31 7:45 pm

    Stick -

    Great post! I did enjoy. I think I’ll run that debate through OS-012:

    http://www.highintelligence.com

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  106. #106 Admiral2012here
    March 14, 2011 am31 7:45 pm

    …after all that Kellia, I’m still not scared for some reason…I’m just go’n with the flow of the Divine Plan and Living in the “Now” and enjoy’n each moment the best I can

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  107. #107 conscious
    March 14, 2011 am31 7:55 pm

    97 OK sped, in that case here’s an opera which comes to mind after reading all Wink LOL

    opera doc

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHivHuPFBq

    …also

    Abraham Lincoln
    Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?

    Droomzacht.

    Heart

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  108. #108 Admiral2012here
    March 14, 2011 am31 7:57 pm

    …guess Gunner played hooky today. I know that there was some rivers cresting from melting ice affecting North NJ area…didn’t hear Bayoune…did I spell that right?

    …anyway, wait’n on the DOGHOUSEWHAT!!!! Updates

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjqZ0aIAgFM

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  109. #109 spedman
    March 14, 2011 am31 8:02 pm

    awww the link didnt work right for me conscious Frown

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  110. #110 conscious
    March 14, 2011 am31 8:05 pm
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  111. #111 Admiral2012here
    March 14, 2011 am31 8:10 pm

    …lol Sped and conscious Grin

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  112. #112 spedman
    March 14, 2011 am31 8:11 pm

    awwwwww i could give you a big ol hug right now. one of my favs SmileSmileSmileSmile thank you dear conscious Hug Left Hug Right

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  113. #113 dreamwalker
    March 14, 2011 am31 8:17 pm

    #110 lol conscious that’s an average day in the office for me. Smile

    I’ve always thought there was something disturbingly alluring about bugs bunny in that particular cartoon. esp. the eyelashes.

    Brings me back though – good times in front of the tube on saturday mornings Smile

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  114. #114 Kellia
    March 14, 2011 am31 8:21 pm

    Japan Faces Prospect of Nuclear Catastrophe as Workers Leave Plant
    By HIROKO TABUCHI, KEITH BRADSHER and MATTHEW L. WALD
    Published: March 14, 2011

    ¶ This article is by Hiroko Tabuchi, Keith Bradsher and Matthew L. Wald.

    ¶ TOKYO — Japan faced the likelihood of a catastrophic nuclear accident Tuesday morning, as an explosion at the most crippled of three reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station damaged its crucial steel containment structure, emergency workers were withdrawn from the plant, and much larger emissions of radioactive materials appeared imminent, according to official statements and industry executives informed about the developments.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/15/world/asia/15nuclear.html?_r=1&emc=na

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  115. #115 conscious
    March 14, 2011 am31 8:36 pm

    You know what, wether the Japanese tsunami was manmade or not, one thing struck me. The news interviewed a dutch student residing in Tokyo moments after the earthquick happened.Now she was very clear about one thing and thats the deeply ingrained way of the Japanese being emotionless. She said she really just wanted a hug after it all happened and nobody gave her, nor each other a hug. So is this disaster a predesigned plan to evoke emotions these peeps have been forced to abandon for so long, is this the last chance for everyone to jump on board and free their inner blockages before 2012? When I look at the Middle-East its another form/wave of collective emotions that’s revolutionizing their world for the first time, ironically a folk that’s the opposite of the Japanese when it comes to showing emotions. Either way the 2011 energies are certainly grinding upwards for all to evolve.

    Sending love and compassion to all.

    Heart Heart Heart

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  116. #116 conscious
    March 14, 2011 am31 8:39 pm

    Dreamwalker/Sped A big nostalgic “SIGH” for those good old childhood cartoons.lolol Kiss Kiss Kiss

    Heart

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  117. #117 Stick
    March 15, 2011 am31 12:39 am

    **The Revolution Has Begun – Be Part Of It** from David Icke

    This film contains the themes I have been banging on about for more than two decades. I don’t agree with every statistical detail and personally I would not trust Paul R Ehrlich to tell me the time in a room full of clocks.

    But most of the themes are spot on, with the addition that protest alone is not enough. We need informed, streetwise protest, based on an understanding of how the ‘game’ is played and to what end, and, more than anything, we need peaceful, yet unshakeably determined, mass non-cooperation with the ‘old world’ of control and enslavement.

    Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvoRat-Tl_Q

    ~Sweet Dreamz GM Massive——————– Hug Left Bunny Hug Right

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  118. #118 QuadHealer
    March 15, 2011 am31 3:23 am

    @CarlFromCanada(#62)

    Very interesting story – you have experienced plenty either first hand or through trusted friends to believe that there is more to this world than meets the eye! Please forgive my previous posts – I did not know you already had so many experiences. I just thought you wanted some proof of there being something outside this world.

    You are absolutely correct that this has little to do with the GFL, and I don’t think that many people are wired to blind faith – this is perhaps a naive opinion given all the deeply religions groups that seem to be operating on blind faith, but I do think we all need some proof, or at least something we think of as an evidence combined with logic to lead us to our truths.

    I’m sure that many religious people that experience a higher being or a miracle will take that as an indication that their beliefs are correct. However, if the same events was seen by another person of a different religion also would lead to a confirmation of their beliefs, then the event has not proven either beliefs, and we have to be careful what conclusions we draw. Partial confirmation can only be a partial confirmation, not a full one, but it is sometimes mistaken for that.

    We all have had experiences that influences us, e.g. if I have seen and felt auras I would find their existence logical, whereas other would not – both being “right” given their experiences.

    I only have the word of a few mediums I trust that talk about GFL, but there are many groups “out there”, and yes it could very well be a total fabrication, as anything in this world. As soon as one realized that this world is an illusion anything is possible, since our reality is manipulated from the outside, but I speculate at the level of manipulation needed to perpetuate any given reality. Somethings are just too unlikely to be a manipulation given the needed scale of manipulation, but we cannot really know for sure.

    If a source will tells some truths, that does naturally not make it all true – just like misinformation operates with some truths mixed in with utter lies. So far I have not had any reason to disbelieve Mathews messages, and they fit very nicely into what I myself have experienced and find logical.

    However, whether or not GFL exists doesn’t actually make that much of a difference to me right now. It is all just an abstract concept at the moment, and I don’t expect to be “saved” by some external force, but for me it is not a big leap of faith to believe that there are organizations in dimensions above this one that work for the light. In fact I would find that logical – others will not.

    I also believe that there are beings that thrive on chaos, destruction and despair out there, which is why I would never trust an Ouji Board – you never know who you are talking with, and chances are they will gain your trust by telling you something only a few could know, followed by who will die next week just to scare you. Of course I firmly believe that we are eternal beings, so that isn’t really much of a threat to me, but I’m sure they could figure something out to scare me. Even if I’m wrong and we are not eternal beings, then I will never be the wiser, but that would mean an astonishing level of manipulation, which leads me to conclude that it is far more likely that we indeed are eternal than not (NDE, OBE, ghosts, contacts with dead, channelings, and clairvoyants would all have to be influenced to perpetuate this story if it is a lie).

    People want change, and the politicians that seem most likely to deliver change always wins the election, but they never deliver, and people are waking up to that fact and that will bring on real change.

    Hmm, I seem to have wandered off track again Smile Anyway, thank you very much for your interesting post – I love hearing about peoples experiences.

    The blue color you mentioned in your meditations may be energy you are seeing, but I’ll ask one of my gifted friends when she returns from holiday in about 3 weeks – she is most insightful. Some of my spare time healing clients have reported seeing colors during a healing session too. If we are two different healers on one person some have even reported seeing different colors dependent on who is there. I only see my own eyelids during healing/meditation, but I do find it fascinating!

    In Peace

    P.S. I actually also make my living writing software mostly on PCs, but I used to program mobile phone hardware. I currently work for Intel in their new mobile communications department in Denmark. I am obliged to mention that my personal views are not that of Intel, but I doubt anyone would think that – I’m am professional at work and as “loony” as possible in my spare time Smile

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  119. #119 QuadHealer
    March 15, 2011 am31 3:23 am

    @dreamwalker (#100)

    Now don’t get me wrong: I do believe there are anomalous objects on the Moon, and I do believe that we went to the Moon and saw more than we bargained for, but I’ll stop going off a tangent here as that is a large subject also covered e.g. in David Ickes book “Human Race Get Off Your Knees: The Lion Sleeps No More”. Of course just because someone writes a book about something does not make it true, but that is the beauty of David Icke – he does not forces his views on others – merely presents his research and leaves it to people to investigate themselves.

    There are enough people on this Earth telling us what to think and do. Suffice to say: Yes, I believe that there are aliens on the Moon and there are many structures there that have been censored by NASA, as well as crafts that would otherwise “confuse” the general public.

    However, that movie is so fake I don’t even know where to start. They put the annoying NASA audio beeps (or Quindar Tones as the are more correctly called) constantly over the audio, which clearly shows they have no idea what the real purpose of those tones are – it is due to the communication system where they would push-to-talk, and there is a beep when they press it and a shorter one when they release.

    Now why would someone recording this constantly press that button in and out, especially when there is no one talking, and more importantly why record the audio via ground control transmission when you have the camera right there?

    The behavior of the guy with the camera on the other side of the table is strange to say the least, I’m not sure if he is trying to act like he is weightless or not, but it is not convincing and only looks comical, and what on Earth (pun intended) is he doing with that camera in the beginning?

    I’m not sure where they got the idea to emulate extreme lens problems (the color cast at the edges like the classical “purple fringe” lens problem), but if the lens had problems it would not be a variable of the camera motion. It could be a strange video codec error, but then we should see this error in all the footage, and we don’t.

    And the fake transmission “fall outs” – come on – why pretend this is being transmitted when clearly it is not, and the fall outs themselves look highly suspicious with multicolored perfectly horizontal lines, and with timing that highlights the drama – just when we get a glimpse of the interesting stuff: fall out for suspense effect.

    The clay doll (or what ever they used) looks more fake than anything from a low-budget Dr.Who episode in the 1980′s ever could (I love Dr.Who and anything Sci-Fi by the way).

    Whatever they are selling – I’m not buying. But just because this movie is fake, does not prove or disproves that there are things that “should not be there” on the Moon – it just makes the subject seem ridicules for most people, as I suspect was the original intention anyway.

    I would take David Ickes book over this fabrication any day. He presents a much more credible story, and actually presents a more extraordinary story than this one.

    In Peace

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  120. #120 Kellia
    March 15, 2011 am31 6:20 am

    Japan quake upgraded to 9.0 magnitude 15 Mar 2011 US experts on Monday upgraded the strength of the earthquake which rocked Japan last week from a magnitude of 8.9 to 9.0, making it the fourth largest in the world since 1900. The US Geological Survey (USGS) said Japanese seismologists have also independently updated their estimate of the earthquake which struck offshore in northern Japan on Friday unleashing a devastating tsunami.

    Japan’s Stricken Nuclear Power Plant Rocked by Two Blasts, Fire 15 Mar 2011 Tokyo Electric Power Co.’s stricken nuclear power plant was today rocked by two further explosions and a fire as workers struggled to avert the risk of a meltdown. A hydrogen blast hit the Fukushima Dai-Ichi plant’s No. 4 reactor, where Tokyo Electric earlier reported a blaze, Japan’s Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said at a briefing. Four of the complex’s six reactors have been damaged by explosions. Prime Minister Naoto Kan appealed for calm as he said the danger of further radiation leaks was rising at the crippled nuclear facility, 135 miles (220 kilometers) north of Tokyo.

    Millions of Quake Victims Face Freezing Temperatures as Snow Is Forecast 14 Mar 2011 Rain and snow are forecast for areas of northern Japan ravaged by a record earthquake on March 11 as rescue workers struggle to reach thousands of people and others huddle in emergency shelters. In tsunami-ravaged Miyagi prefecture, where officials say the death toll may reach 10,000, there is a 70 percent chance of rain this evening in the capital of Sendai, according to the Japan Meteorological Agency. The precipitation is expected to turn to snow tomorrow morning as the temperature drops to 1 degree Celsius (33.8 degrees Fahrenheit) and below freezing in other areas.

    America on radiation alert: Japan faces world’s worst nuclear accident since Chernobyl as experts warn fallout may reach U.S. –California ‘monitoring situation closely’ amid dramatic escalation of disaster –Japan’s nuclear crisis now appears worse than the Three Mile Island nuclear accident in 1979 –Radioactive wind could reach Tokyo within hours – and radiation levels are already rising in city –Nuclear Regulatory Commission admits it is ‘quite possible’ radiation could reach the U.S. –’Worst-case scenario’ could see 30,000ft winds sending nuclear cloud across Pacific – possibly hitting by Tuesday night 15 Mar 2011 Fears that America could be hit by the nuclear fallout from the Japan earthquake have dramatically increased as workers prepared to abandon a reactor crippled by the earthquake and tsunami last night in the face of what is set to become the world’s second worst nuclear disaster – topped only by Chernobyl. Damage at the number two reactor at the crippled Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power complex is worse than thought, the Japanese government admitted tonight, sparking fears for human health both in Japan and the U.S. The Nuclear Regulatory Commission has admitted it is ‘quite possible’ the fallout could reach America.

    All links are here:
    http://www.legitgov.org/#breaking_news

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  121. #121 dreamwalker
    March 15, 2011 am31 6:27 am

    #118 – Quad, 100% agree with you.

    #119 – thanks for your insight, I’m a huge fan of sci fi too, and even if it is fake I appreciate the effort they made to create the story. Smile

    Did you manage to catch the Agartha trilogy I posted a while back? Another great read for sci fi fans. There is uncontested physical evidence to back that particular story up, and it’s a pretty far-out story.

    It’s actually the parts of it that seem fake that make it more real to me. It looks like clay because there is a thin film (cellophane? fixative?) covering the skin. In one of the other films on youtube one of the guys is poking the skin of the “doll” with his hand. Either this is designed as a misdirection (i.e., look I’m poking it therefore it is real) or it’s the guy really not knowing what it is (why would you poke it if you knew it was a doll?).

    The spinning camera thing is interesting. You wouldn’t do that with a camera on earth because you know you’d drop it. Some kind of elaborate misdirection again maybe? Or some guy playing with a camera in lower than earth G because he know he won’t drop it?

    There are other films out there of better quality. That particular one is pretty bad. Maybe someone (i.e. some governmental body whose initials are CIA Grin ) messed with it after the fact?

    Like I said, we’ll never know without a body. Fun stuff Grin

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  122. #122 dreamwalker
    March 15, 2011 am31 6:30 am

    Democracy Now! this morning talks about the reactors in Japan, interview discusses how 25% of US reactors are of the same type as those that have failed in Japan. They talked about how the containment chamber used in these reactors is of a design approved in the early 70′s, and the group who approved them stated later that they shouldn’t have because the design is faulty.

    http://democracynow.org

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  123. #123 JBiZ
    March 15, 2011 am31 7:13 am

    Stick – #117

    You should check out the Zeitgeist Movement, the Venus Project, and Jacque Fresco’s Resource-Based Economy concept.

    In Austin this past Saturday, the Zeitgeist Movement: Texas Chapter brought awareness to our state by teaming up with the New Earth Center in an effort to raise the consciousness of our community through educated activism.

    You are ABSOLUTELY right. Protests are not enough. Educational Activism is necessary. Zeitgeist members in Texas are currently putting together a lecture circuit with topics such as Money-Market Economics Vs Resource-Based Economics, The Global Value System Disorder, and Common Life Ground.

    Other efforts involve A Course On Civil Discourse, The Transparent Collective, and several interactive programs aimed at awareness and education.

    We have over 500,000 GLOBAL members. I know you’ve seen my rants in here before.

    I know that each of us has our own understanding of what is currently taking place on our planet. I have my Ideas, but I really have no proof.

    The beautiful thing is that I’ve found people in the movement who don’t really care about WHAT is going on, but HOW we can fix it.

    Anyway, I felt the same way about 3 years ago and thought I’d share…

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  124. #124 JBiZ
    March 15, 2011 am31 7:26 am

    Dreamwalker -

    You always here this early?

    All -

    Sorry about yesterday all…
    I felt like a had a point to prove and I’ve been told in the past I can be an ass in an argument.

    I did not realize that Jim had historically been known for abusive outbursts. This was corroborated by several of you who have probably been around a bit longer than I have (at least in this forum).

    Jim’s perspective, when he was able to calmly deliver it and not be antagonized, was sound and well thought out.

    I’ve had time to sleep on it though, and I always back the underdog so, I have finally moved through this.

    And perhaps its for the best. Maybe I can offer a less abusive logical perspective in this forum. At the end of the day, I really DO care about you all and I feel that you all care about me. None of us has the answer on our own, but collectively we may be able to put this damn puzzle together.

    <——extends olive branch———<<<

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  125. #125 Gunner
    March 15, 2011 am31 7:56 am

    Good morning everyone. And yes Admiral I did play hookey yesterday. I almost did iti today also but I gotta save those days. Bayonne was not affected at all by the floods.Now if Bayonne ever got hit with a tsunami, it would probably be totally sunken into the ocean. Bayonne is a penninsula and also not very far from the ocean.
    Man, I hope you are having a good old time on break with the kids. Enjoy every moment as you know how fast time is zooming by.
    Great to hear from Laurinda and the Spedman after an absence.
    BTW John from the last post `112. There will be times on this site where it feels like you are talking to yourself or will not get a response to something you commented on. Dont sweat it as I get that some times also. I dont know why but it is nothing personal and I really enjoy your comments.
    manta, I could not see the earth video but connectiong with Gaia on a daily basis is awesome. I do it first thing in the morning. I could feel her energy.
    Admiral 189, I love that john Edwards guy. He is the real deal. I got a couple of his books. He understands all the critics but he does not mind. He was once asked, if he is so phsychic, why dont he just win the big lottery. His response was if I could I would.
    LL 242, I see it is Oolong time. I just love that tea and I work with the Taiwanese people so there is always a fresh supply around here somewhere. I think that shit got some speed in it because it makes me so hyper.
    Jim, Just wanted to say I have not seen you post here lately. Whats up!!!!!! Only kidding jim and all the beswt to you and your journey in life. I was actually getting bored with the same predicable comments and you did seem to lash out on some more than others. in the words of the great Rodney King, “cant we all just get along”
    Well didnot do too much at the doghouse this weekend. Chris was over and I was drinki9ng the vodka. Then later we smoke and OMG this shit is potent and it makes you almost feel as if you are tripping pout. dana came by friday night and she looked so goofy as she was drunk. She then sparked us up and we were all semi-tripping.

    BTW her cat came home on saturday and will be alright. I still wonder where she got the rat poison from. I am starting to think, maybe homeless rich put some in the basement. I have been having ben the mouse running around for months and now AI am starting to see more so they would also have to be in the basement and they prbalbly crawl on Richies head at night. I almost steeped on his head yesterday as I was trying to do some wash and he was blocking the washing machine. so I went over him and got some wash in but on the jump back over I hit a bone. Woops sorry rich. He kept saying in his polish accent no problema no problema.
    One thing I dont get. It seems every natural catastrophy lately is being blamed on HARRP> Now we also know lady Gaia has to shake off and cleanse thousands of years of negative energies and poolution. My first though is that is exactly what is happening. I have not read matthews message yet but some of these events have got to be Gaias way of clensing.
    Well I am going to sneak out for a break, check in later.

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  126. #126 Gunner
    March 15, 2011 am31 8:04 am

    An Angels Message for the World
    from Messages from Ann & The Angels!

    Dear Friends,

    As we witness the devastation in Japan, know that spirit is behind all things, and that what looks like cruelty upon your earth is indeed a tidal wave of love flooding your planet and the heart’s of humanity. Work in your own hearts dear ones to allow a tidal wave of emotions to engulf you. Allow all that is within you that is not stable, real, and authentic to be wiped away, and in this fashion you will ride the energetic waves that are washing upon your planet. See where you feel like “melting down” and add love to the situation and in this fashion, you help avoid a greater melt down on the planet as well.

    We do not see disasters as tragedies dear ones. We see instead a great influx of souls returning home, amidst amazing celebration. When you lose souls, we find them. When people transition en masse as they did in your recent earthquake and tidal wave, we assure you there are grand celebrations in heaven as these souls meet up with family, friends, loved ones and guides. There is no sadness on our side dear ones, and yet we understand the sadness upon the earth and we are there to comfort you. When such events happen you cannot help but feel love and compassion for your fellow man. So many of you wonder what you can do. Take time in quiet and ask God what your role is here. Some of you will be tasked with sharing money and or resources. It will feel like a joy to give. Some of you will be called into prayer. Still others will be told to wait – there will be things later for you to do. Some of you will be called to live inspiring and happy lives or to simply ma intain a vibration of peace upon your earth. God knows what every single soul on the planet needs to give in order to grow, and God knows who is in need as well. Trust in your hearts dear ones for when God gives you direction your giving or your stillness, will be a joy.

    We love you so very much and as your earth and humanity goes through rebirthing once again, we remind you all to keep sight of the bigger picture. From each disaster arises new love, new levels of human cooperation, new respect for the oneness within your hearts, for within each human heart, you all want the same.

    God bless you, we love you so very much,
    – The angels.

    From Ann:

    I have been feeling something about to give on the earth for the last few weeks very strongly. I felt a burst of energy right before the volcano and Wednesday I had to go to http://www.spaceweather.com to see what our sun was doing because I felt “swirly” all day. Ends up we had a huge solar flare. I even commented to a friend that it felt like something was going to pop. The tension in my body was insane this week, and suddenly it dissipated. Sometimes I forget to intend not to feel the earth. Of course, I am watching this disaster with intense compassion, but I also feel the incredible joy of those returning home when I tune in. Living in both worlds is such a dichotomy at times.

    I randomly flipped on the television at lunch in time to catch a clip of Obama’s speech about the disaster. I was not interested in political speeches, but rather about seeing how the people of Japan were doing, and I was about to change channels , when I heard these words:

    “When you see what’s happening in Japan, you are reminded that for all our differences in culture or language or religion, that ultimately, humanity is one.”

    I cried. We are starting to get it here upon the earth. That is truth. We are one family. And as horrifying as the pictures continue to be, if that sentiment is what arises from all of this then we are indeed learning.

    Today try to treat others as you would like to be treated. Allow whatever flood of emotion has been arising in you to simply pass through you. Try not to overanalyze your own “debris” that has been washed up as of late. Just let it flow and let it go. And by all means let us pray and send love to all those who have lost their loved ones, and let us avoid our own meltdowns so as to help avoid an even greater disaster with those nuclear plants. Our prayers are powerful together and I believe always in focusing upon the reality we’d rather create.

    God bless you all – Have a great day and let your joy and your love be a beacon to a world in need.

    Love,
    Ann

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  127. #127 Gunner
    March 15, 2011 am31 8:12 am

    On saturday night I had 6 ships in my dreams. they were just flying overhead and for some reason I had a laser pointer. I would then shine it on their ships just to say hello to them. Man I am telling you, these days I find it more difficult to say if I was dreaming something or it really happened. i mean there must have been 5 different things that came to me in dreams but when I woke up I was wondering if I had viewed this on tv or was it in my dream.
    I guess I am losing my head.
    One more thing on the Jim issue. It is one thing to disagree with someone and another to disagree and attack people verbally. I mean calling people outright idiots and stupid because we dont agree with him is nuts.His favorite target seemed to be the Admiral and anyone who knows the Admiral from this site knows the Admiral never attacked anyone in this manner whether he agreed with them or not. I always felt he enjoyed getting on people and that was a way for him to subconsciously steal others energies and that is why I would recommend to people to just ignore him and dont give him your energies. The celestine prophecy books explain this stealing of energies very deep. You cant blame anyone for this as we all dig our own graves.

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  128. #128 Gunner
    March 15, 2011 am31 8:13 am

    Ashley, my last comment is number 127. I will play that tonight on the pick 3 for ya. show me the money.

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  129. #129 dreamwalker
    March 15, 2011 am31 8:20 am

    @JBiz – I’m east coast, apparently the time stamp doesn’t take that into account.

    I tend to agree with you – when in doubt, DO SOMETHING. Any direction is better than no direction. And it sounds like the directions you mentioned are worth pursuing. Smile

    @gunner – thanks for the reminder of the celestine prophecy, I incorporated these ideas into my life and completely forgot the origin!

    You are not losing your mind – it’s totally cool they want to play.

    My understanding is that most of the UFOs we can see right now are actually ours – built in the US or other country of origin, and piloted by our people. You won’t be able to see “theirs” unless they want you to see them. Your dream could be saying that they do in fact want you to see them.

    I’m having a hard time grasping the idea that their UFOs have sentience. I don’t think “we” have that technology yet.

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  130. #130 Gunner
    March 15, 2011 am31 8:48 am

    I hear ya dreamwalker. They often come to me in my dreams. Once when I was at home on a friday night in my backyard, i could feel the presence of many ships. no visuals but i knew they were all over the skies. So, in my mind I said it would be nice to see you but i asked they dont de-cloak as if I could see them then maybe our military could also see them and try to harm them. Then that friday night, I had one of my greatest dreams of seeing their ships. I dreamed of seeing this round ship with lithgs on the bottom that were spinning. The ship was very close to me then all of a sudden it did some manueuvers and actually changed shap. Then it zoomed back at me in its original shape. I was then laying on the grass and this ship passed overhead of me by only 20 feet. As it did pass over it sent me an bolt of energy that felt so positive and loving. I know that was their thanks to me for caring for their safety. I was so humbles and appreciative that they would do that for little old me. And yes , I know my last line saying i am surprised they would come to me is like me also laying I am not worthy. I always thought of myself in that light of not being worthy but through these last couple of years I have totally changed my thoughts on me not being worthy. I am worthy and so are all of you. Almost lunch time and I dont know what i want. Ill probably end up getting pizza although me and chris had it sunday night and I also had it last night. man it seems i never get tired of pizza.,

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  131. #131 Gunner
    March 15, 2011 am31 8:51 am

    DW_ I have read some messages where the galactics did say their ships were ctually live sentiment beings. I also dont fully understand this. It is like their ships are an extension of themselves. man, all of our minds are goin g to be totally blown when we get all the truths.I cant wait to go to the libary of portgolios in Agartha and we will get to experience our true history in a holographic like theatre. i think the first place in history I will visit is the first years of ethro tull touring live.

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  132. #132 Admiral2012here
    March 15, 2011 am31 8:58 am

    INSTA-POLL: US NUCLEAR POLICY

    Given the recent explosions at some of Japan’s nuclear power plants after the tsunami should America…

    VOTE HERE

    http://www.coasttocoastam.com/poll/view/50863

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  133. #133 Gunner
    March 15, 2011 am31 8:59 am

    DW 129 i didnot think i was losing my mind because of the dream. I actually loved that dream and it was so vivid. I know it was from the galactics and i appreciated that so much.
    i meant that lately i dont know if what i dreamed actually tool place in my awaken stance. I mean most of it I do but there are just some parts I have to question. I guess all these dimension al shifts going down.wow what a ride and another reason I am not upset with SOON i am sitting back, observing and injoying the ride. I really feel i am so lucky to be a part of the shift and to actually see the shift happening in my day to day life with my self and others. What a wild ride this is.

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  134. #134 Admiral2012here
    March 15, 2011 am31 9:06 am

    …good morn’n everyone; hope everyone is bright and cheery today. Yeah, Gunner, I knew you played hookey again. Having longer weekends can be addicting. Spring Break with the boys is go’n to fly by, so we are enjoy’n every minute of it. Man, it’s Tuesday already…almost noon here and we’re just wake’n up and I haven’t made breakfast yet. Jacob, my youngest is still asleep. I’ll be mak’n breakfast taco’s w/bacon and cheese

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  135. #135 Admiral2012here
    March 15, 2011 am31 9:12 am

    WHAT DO WE BELIEVE IS POSSIBLE?

    A recent study from Birmingham Science City quizzed people on their understanding of current technological levels. And their discovery was astounding. Many of those surveyed believed a number of magical technologies, such as time machines either existed or would exist in the near future while others, such as invisibility had not yet been developed. But where do we stand technologically, and how does this understanding compare to previous generations?

    http://www.unexplainable.net/Technology/What-Do-We-Believe-is-Possible.shtml

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  136. #136 Admiral2012here
    March 15, 2011 am31 9:26 am

    BECKOW – CALL FOR HELP TO OUR GALACTIC SPACE BRETHREN

    The Planetary Activation Organization is taking this initiative, which you may wish to join in on
    ____________

    The PAO team (Sheldan Nidle’s Site) takes the current natural disaster and the nuclear accident as an occasion to ask the visitors of our PAO website to join in a regular meditation within the next few days for a powerful manifestation of a healing solution for the area around Japan and for the whole Earth. The time for action has come

    http://stevebeckow.com/2011/03/call-galactic-space-brethren/

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  137. #137 Admiral2012here
    March 15, 2011 am31 9:30 am

    BECKOW – MORE CHANNELS ADD THEIR VOICES: JAPANESE EARTHQUAKE WAS MANMADE

    Interestingly I’m receiving support from mediums writing and saying the people who hold that the Japanese earthquake was natural are “wrong.” Another writes to call it “an assisted tragedy” I don’t feel I have their permission to name them, so I won’t. (If I get their permission, I’ll revise this article)

    But here is a third medium, Takeli MMagdalen of Sydney, Australia, channeling 7th-dimensional Uriate and Ileate, who has given me permission to publish her channeling, in which the Japanese earthquake is also called a manmade tragedy. Notice that she, like Matthew, says that the radiation resulting, is being lessened by Light forces

    Here is the heart of her message which agrees with that given by Matthew Ward:

    http://stevebeckow.com/2011/03/channels-add-voices-japanese-earthquake-manmade/

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  138. #138 Maffy
    March 15, 2011 am31 9:33 am
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  139. #139 Gunner
    March 15, 2011 am31 10:07 am

    Admiral, how can you???? How can you forget the spam in those tacos!!!!

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  140. #140 dreamwalker
    March 15, 2011 am31 10:19 am

    Regarding disclosure I can see why they would want to wait for just the right moment. It’s the moment where they can catch the cabal with their pants down, so to speak, and rally the most amount of people here on earth to their cause.

    I can also see that the US is in a really delicate position because it is both of the light and of the dark. Disclosure will bite the hand that feeds it, because one of the conditions of receiving favor has been to serve the needs of the cabal. It sounds like it is a relationship very similar to the pusher/drug addict. The addict wants to quit, and has every intention of quitting, but can’t.

    The only person who can break the cycle is the addict. It also sounds like the US Gov’t has both a dark and a light side to it – there are some who are embedded with the dark, some embedded with the light, and others who have suspicions but really don’t have a clue.

    Anyone know of a crib sheet that takes a stab at this? It’d be nice for those of us following along at home! I understand this is sort of irrelevant to the Task At Hand.

    Dangit, I wish Coast to Coast wasn’t on so late Frown

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  141. #141 JBiZ
    March 15, 2011 am31 10:20 am

    Admiral -

    Cold Hard Facts (CHFs) please. In order for us to agree that this is indeed true, that this Idea holds merit, we need the smoking gun, Wiki Leaks cables, something to that effect.

    Hitting a bong and taking some deep breaths and typing at one’s computer simply does not qualify as empirical evidence. I don’t care how many people are doing it.

    I’m not saying that all mediums are full of bologna. I am saying (even Gordon agreed) that one’s personal inhibitions, biases, and opinions can impact the channeled message.

    With that said, it’s no wonder all mediums don’t agree. Sure, they can be similar, and even have an impact on the others.

    A network of people with similar experiences forms and they all collectively agree that their very personal experience is collectively valid and true. Until each and every person can have the experience though,(in the case of channeling or telepathy, I believe we all have the capacity) the experience itself cannot be used as a reference point where the those that cannot channel are concerned.

    The thing we are missing now, since evidence from the camp of mediums seems to be aligning, is Wiki Leaks cables or something to that effect. Once both camps are able to substantiate this claim, it moves closer to a true idea.

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  142. #142 Admiral2012here
    March 15, 2011 am31 11:03 am

    …hey JBiZ, this is where we all should go to have some fun

    JAMES GILLILAND’s ECETI RANCH – POWER UP!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ3aCVNyJ-Y

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  143. #143 Steffie
    March 15, 2011 am31 11:07 am

    WOW!!! things happen fast on this forum!!! Grin
    Welcome back to those who went on sabbatical – good to see you back in the mix! Heart Rose Heart

    Such an amazing thing happened today… I have the radio on, next to me, but it’s quite a low volume and I don’t really hear it much, but I have a friend who hosts the afternoon drive show, so it’s kinda habit. Anyway, he goes on at 3pm. About 2.40 something was irritating me – there was the same voice, repeating the same phrase, over and over, but with a break of total silence about a minute long in between…

    So I turned it up to hear him – an American male voice, sounding rather like a motivational speaker – he said something like: “Nike tell you to Just Do It, but they don’t tell you HOW to do it…” then silence for a minute before it was repeated.

    I called my friend to ask if they realised their station had been hijacked and was completely off-air – he said they knew and the technicians were trying to figure out what was going on… BUT… they DID NOT HEAR THE VOICE I HEARD!!

    Then, around 5 to 3, just before he was due to go on, the “voice” said something like “How do you know they are not terrestrials…” …. WTF??!!!

    So I phoned him again, hoping the “voice” would be there and he could hear it from my phone (it wasn’t!!), but he said they were still trying to figure out what was going on, but they could still NOT HEAR THE “VOICE”!!!!!!!!!!!

    At 3pm, on the dot, he went onair, and it was back to perfect transmission……………….??!!!

    and, yes, it DID say “terrestrial” NOT “extra-terrestrial”…

    you know, when a station goes off air, there is a kind of white noise, like interference, well there was NOTHING, NADA, ZIP… it was dead silence… until the “voice” spoke again…..???????????

    Anyone have any bright ideas??

    Confused Question Confused Question Confused

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  144. #144 Steffie
    March 15, 2011 am31 11:08 am

    Thanks Addy for #136 and 137 Heart

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  145. #145 bateleur
    March 15, 2011 am31 11:19 am

    Steffie, was this 567 Cape talk?
    I think you were hearing cosmic messages that somehow went on air or some pieces of conversation from private recreational radio operators?!

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  146. #146 Gunner
    March 15, 2011 am31 11:22 am

    Hi Steffie nice to see you post. I had that happen on radio stations in the past and it seemed most of the times I was picking up a cell phone transmission.
    BTW< maybe the mainstream media is waking up or being given permission to start the disclosure project. I was watching sci-fy channel and you would not believ what they were talking about. Agartha. I have never seen a tv show covering inner earth and I was happy but also sad because I only caught the last 10 minutes of the show. At the end some felt Hitler took refuge there but i dont believe this to be true at all. they exist in the 5th dimension so there is no way Hitler could survive there or be welcone at all there. I know he did send many exhibitions to the north pole but so did the US, Russia, China and other countries. They all failed to gain access to the inner cities.
    On these UFO shows they need to have narrators that know what the hell they are talking about. One UFO show showed some lady medium talking to the galactics and the narrator made such a joke about it as if she was some sort of looney. I am never not amazed at how dim peoples thought can be. I knew of the et presence somewhere within me and I didnot need anyone to tell me of the evidence. It was like knowledge I always had.

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  147. #147 Gordon
    March 15, 2011 am31 11:24 am

    @Steffie 143, well like bateleur I would say it’s what they used to call pirate radio, someone with an illegal transmitter. If it was mounted on a van or other vehicle, then the signal could have been moving, and once it dropped out of range, the normal signal returned.

    But if you can rule that out, then it must not be terrestrial. Smile

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  148. #148 Admiral2012here
    March 15, 2011 am31 11:25 am

    …wow, Steffie, that radio frequency interference was very strange. If you find out more, please share

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  149. #149 Gunner
    March 15, 2011 am31 11:26 am
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  150. #150 Gordon
    March 15, 2011 am31 11:29 am

    JBiz, well you raised some valid points on kicking people out and that’s probably why the moderators, who we affectionately call the Galactic Dudettes, took so long to take that drastic step.

    Your project sounds very interesting, best wishes with it!

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  151. #151 Admiral2012here
    March 15, 2011 am31 11:37 am

    …ya know Gunner, with Japan’s Nuclear disaster, I feel Nuclear Power will be put out of service and replaced with cleaner energy. We are in the times of change. I guess it takes disasters for people to wake up and make that change

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  152. #152 Admiral2012here
    March 15, 2011 am31 11:43 am

    …lol Gunner, when I pulled out the can of Spam, my boys decided they weren’t hungry anymore

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  153. #153 Steffie
    March 15, 2011 am31 12:01 pm

    No, Bateleur, it was East Coast Radio Laugh

    And, no, I don’t think it was pirate or CB radio, or anything else like that – I know what those sound like. The weirdest thing was the absolute, total silence in between. And the fact that the same thing must have been repeated a gazillion times. Also very odd that the technicians could not hear a sound on their wavelengths…….???

    Thanks for the interest, guys – will definitely keep you posted if anything comes of this… it was VERRRRY strange!

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  154. #154 Gunner
    March 15, 2011 am31 12:52 pm

    Yeah, I just thought it was strange that Obama would go for this and expecially if he knows what is going down. I dont worry about the future of energy because I know we will get that good old crystal light free energy that does no harm to our enviroment.
    Youre kids are very wise to stay away from that spam. They must be awoken to the evils of the spam.

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  155. #155 Reefer
    March 15, 2011 am31 12:59 pm

    Interesting, watch the very beginning of this vid, what Alex Collier says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn2aKu42mAo&feature=feedu

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  156. #156 dreamwalker
    March 15, 2011 am31 1:06 pm

    #146 ya gunner I read the nazis were looking for Agartha too. Hitler tasked a whole division to looking for it, in fact. If you read the Robert Byrd logbook the Agarthans say “auf wedershoen”. Weird, huh?

    The description of the Agarthans is that they are giants (around 7.5′ tall) with Aryan features. But I think there is no worry of a nazi threat since the Agarthan technology lets them lead a peaceful existence. Agarthans are the good guys as far as I know. So if the Nazis did find their way there, their politics and way of thinking have been neutralized by now.

    Area 51 is supposedly one of the transit stations leading to Agartha (as related by col. billie faye woodard). Other tunnels are located at a few other bases (Edwards AFB, I think), Mammoth Caves in the US, Mt. Shasta, somewhere in northern BC (not sure where – it’s called cannibal valley, I think), and Tibet (i.e. the myth of Shangri-La). The Bermuda Triangle also leads there, and there are entrances on both poles. And it is possible to go there physically, it’s just in a different dimension.

    I find it highly unlikely that the nazis managed to get through to Agartha – the “higher frequency” that Salusa talks about is apparently also required to pass through the barriers leading to Agartha. I would expect most nazis given their world outlook would be S.O.L. Grin

    It brings other elements of the media into perspective. Like, for example, the King Kong movie. Or Peter Pan.

    If you guys want me to post my Agartha links again I’ll be happy to. Well-documented (and highly vetted) proof of this network of tunnels exists in the Tayos Caves. The book is called “gold of the gods”.

    It doesn’t get any more Indiana Jones than this, folks! Grin

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  157. #157 Gunner
    March 15, 2011 am31 1:23 pm

    Yes dreamwalker, please post those Argarthian links. yes I did read of Admiral byrds transmission and also thought it strange at the time of the german sounding language. I also believ them to be inb the 5th dimension and not accessable to 3 dimensional beings. They are also going to be a big part in this ascension process. I am pretty sure one of my dreams of years ago, that i was in the land of Telos. The beings were bigger than normal and this one guy had such strong and loving features and when you looked at him, a sense of calmness and a feeling that everything is going to be alright, came over me.
    Admiral , have you “Made a plan” to go anywhere with the kids this week? I am seeing waterpark and all you’s sliding down the slides having a good old time. I know one of the worlds best rated waterpark is somewhere in Texas but not sure of the exact one.
    Well time to get going to the DOGHOUSE!!!!WHAT!!!!!
    I cant wait to kick back tonight. I just got about an hour of housework when I get home and then out of my way and give me the remote. Have a great night everyone.

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  158. #158 Gunner
    March 15, 2011 am31 1:25 pm

    One more thing DW- I have mostly read of channellings coming from Telos but I have not seen many out of the rest of Agartha. Adama did send me a couple of signs though that I just knew inside was in fact from him. What a loving soul he is and i will someday go snorkeling with him. All are invited, YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  159. #159 dreamwalker
    March 15, 2011 am31 1:40 pm

    Agartha “Trilogy”

    http://www.ourhollowearth.com/SGContents.htm

    http://www.reversespins.com/byrd.html

    http://www.conspiration.cc/science/hollow_earth_col_billie_faye_woodard.html

    Most of the above, and some additional accounts here:
    http://www.ourhollowearth.com/ourhollo/index.html

    I noticed u209 was a german submarine that reportedly made it through.

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  160. #160 spedman
    March 15, 2011 am31 2:12 pm
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  161. #161 Admiral2012here
    March 15, 2011 am31 2:20 pm

    …Great Vid Sped! Big Smile

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  162. #162 spedman
    March 15, 2011 am31 2:25 pm

    that was interesting reefer ty for the link Yes

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  163. #163 spedman
    March 15, 2011 am31 2:26 pm

    thanx ad man just doin my part in tryin to spread the word

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  164. #164 Laurinda
    March 15, 2011 am31 3:25 pm

    JBiZ #124: I just wanted to acknowledge your olive branch gesture. Very nice indeed. Point well taken. Namaste.

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  165. #165 Laurinda
    March 15, 2011 am31 3:28 pm

    Braveheart Clan: I just got home from school, spent it in K-Gtn. and 2nd grade today. I wanted to comment on how wonderful it was to read most of the comments—as this site feels like it did “way back when”—a wonderful place to come home to. Blessings to all! Yes

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  166. #166 John
    March 15, 2011 am31 3:47 pm

    Steffie…. #153

    For there to be dead silence, there must be a carrier frequency being picked up by the radio. The carrier frequency is the frequency that you tune into. AM and FM both use this method.

    It is totally possible for you to have received a carrier from a nearby pirate and the station, some distance away, not. It depends on the transmitting power of the pirate. Some pirate stations will only be picked up at very close distances (close in radio is a few hundred yards).

    I have a feeling that you received transmissions from a nearby pirate transmitter with a power level sufficient to block the broadcast transmitter and “take over” your receiver. Not really a stretch, I used to do it myself.

    Those little FM transmitters for MP3 players can do this, but they are REALLY limited in power and would have to be very close to the receiver. The larger the transmitter, the farther it could be and still cause the effect you describe in either AM or FM.

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  167. #167 Stick
    March 15, 2011 am31 4:20 pm

    Steffie: Hope your trip went well, always good to see you posting. “Things happen fast on this forum” indeed. -I suppose it was inevitable. When more fuel is continually added to the fire, it’s eventually gonna blow Bomb

    The Radio incident is ‘VERRRRY strange.’ Stay tuned… and let us know if you recieve any new transmissions Listening to Music

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  168. #168 Admiral2012here
    March 15, 2011 am31 4:43 pm

    SHELDAN’s NEW MESSAGE

    Selamat Gajun! We come again to discuss with you a number of things that are happening on your world and to your reality. Presently, your world is moving through a period of ever-accelerating change. This operation to alter your reality is reaching a stage where Gaia requires acknowledgement of the fact that your days as primary residents of her surface are strictly numbered. We are watching as Mother Earth starts to increase the amount of strength she is channeling into her various seismic and volcanic events. We are being told that it is imperative for you to begin to see that the many diverse events taking place are related to one another. The collapse of Mother Earth’s ecosystems as well as the sudden changes in climate reflect your own need to change, for example, by moving to end the UFO cover-up and by cooperating with the many elements we are putting both around your world and below the surface of your world. We are ready to use these elements to bring you in due time to Inner Earth and to assist in your move from limited to full consciousness.
    First contact has become more than simply a reunion between you and your space family: Heaven has expanded this mission to include the actual transition of your society to a galactic one. This has placed us in a role that we would rarely undertake on our own; namely, to ensure the grand transformation of your present reality into something quite different. We are pleased that Heaven has chosen us for such a significant task. However, the amount of multileveled strategies needed to pull this off are not so easily embraced. At first we stumbled as we learned how best to work within the strange circumstances presented to us. Your realm is ruled by interlocking directorates, which to one degree or another despise each other. They operate in a milieu governed by chaos, which was often helped along by their former overlords, the Anunnaki, although this aspect of their tenure has been absent since the mid-1990s. This resulted in a sort of halfway détente, which led to the formation of a new head directorate. This body is the one we are working on to allow a great change of direction away from its heinous plans.

    This diverse dark cabal is working hard to defeat our Earth allies and us. We have learned by extensive experience that the only way to approach these ones is by the use of force. We have rendered their secret bases partially inoperable and disrupted their various operations, yet these obstructionist activities continue unabated. We encourage our Earth allies to deny them access to the financial resources they need to maintain their influence over several of your major governments. In addition, we have given our liaisons and diplomats the authority to detain certain individuals within this cabal, in order to reemphasize to them our goals at first hand, and to restate what we require of them. These tactics are finally beginning to make them realize that we do not intend to back off from our various demands. These demands include signing a basic agreement allowing for the new transitional governments to come to power. We have stepped up the number of flyovers of many key secret-government bases to show we are ready to unleash our technology, and the dark, not wishing to incur further ruin of their infrastructure, finally seems more ready to accede to our demands.

    An aspect of this operation is to target certain individuals. Each member of the central directorate has particular pet projects that we are using our technology to mess up. We make a point of ‘removing’ these individuals from the midst of their highest security detail to demonstrate that they have no defense against our technical superiority. Then we proceed to remind them that their former masters, the Anunnaki, had advised them in the mid-1990s to stand down and cooperate with the Light. Our intent is, further, to emphasize to them the advantages of this move: Heaven has a divine plan, which includes not only the ultimate goal of full consciousness, but also the more immediate restoration of each person’s unalienable sovereignty, freedom, and prosperity. First contact is becoming a holy grail, and carrying it out, a most divine task! Our determination is enabling us, in the Light of Heaven’s decrees, to accomplish first contact and free you from the clutches of this dark cabal. Our Earth allies have likewise fully committed themselves to this noble cause.

    We have stated all of this before, in one way or another. The difference this time lies in how we are now able to move forward. Heaven has freed us to do a number of things that we had been pushing for over the past 11 months. We need to use more emphatic forms of coercion to make it clear that the dark needs to go and go now. This key permission includes starving them of funds and closing the legal gaps that permit the dark to move stealthily around your globe. Our Earth allies are doing this, and so the dark is becoming more limited in its ability to dispense its dark magic. Deprived of funds and still desperately looking for ways to undermine us, the dark is discovering that its ongoing holding-action is rapidly becoming more and more futile. Their surrender is no longer merely inevitable; it is now a matter of when. Our liaisons are daily negotiating with components of this cabal the terms of this surrender.

    This process of preparing the way for our Earth allies is a prerequisite for disclosure. We know the present major governments are not going to put disclosure at the top of their list any time soon. We continue to be a nuisance they do not intend to acknowledge publicly, because doing so ends in one fell swoop the reality they daily fight to maintain. We watch in disbelief as these regimes persist in lying about what is going on all around them and how they intend to correct these ever-growing problems. This deception is largely due to the fact that the cabal tells these regimes what to say, leaving the major political and economic figures very little room for maneuver. Each such person is forced by settings beyond his or her control to act as their handlers so decree. Naturally, our Earth allies intend to put an end to this dreary scenario at the first opportunity.

    First contact remains the crucial final act returning you to full consciousness. We have watched carefully as Gaia sends out her warnings. The major area for these warnings is of course the Pacific Ring of Fire. Here, two things are underway: the seabed in general is rising, and this is further affected by the gradual locking together of the Pacific and neighboring plates. This constant ‘drift and lock’ motion is causing the large earthquakes that have rocked the islands of this region over the past half-decade. Our scientists feel that this ongoing series of tectonic corrections is to be the cause of even larger earthquakes. In the same vein, volcanic activity is in effect a type of earthly stress reliever, and this does not bode well for the many volcanoes that encircle this region. We are monitoring them all.

    Mother Earth wants the present reality transformed. We are working hard to get the new governments into power, and we expect these new governments to officially disclose our presence and our mission to you very soon after gaining control. We wish to hasten first contact and are working on new scenarios to permit this. The timeframe left to these governments to put their programs into operation is shrinking as Gaia escalates her changes. We intend to report on this more thoroughly in a coming update. You need to know just how much the belligerent delaying-actions of the dark are reducing the preparation time for your return to full consciousness. We are adjusting, and expect our new scenario to go off without a hitch!

    Today, we reviewed what is happening. Mother Earth is moving ahead vigorously with her warnings to Earth’s humanity. This warning is simple: the Earth’s surface is no longer to be your home! Accept your heritage of full consciousness and return with your space family to the wonder that is Agartha (Inner Earth)! Know, dear Ones, that the countless Supply and never-ending Prosperity of Heaven are indeed Yours! So Be It! Selamat Gajun! Selamat Ja! (Sirian for Be One! and Be in Joy!)

    http://www.paoweb.com/sn031511.htm

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  169. #169 Stick
    March 15, 2011 am31 4:44 pm

    Someone mentioned cartoons earlier… and they definitely bring back some powerful memories. It can be real fun to revisit them with a discerning eye. The agenda of the Dark Cabal has no bounds, and while still relying on extreme subliminal messages to influence the masses, much of their rhetoric is front and center. When viewed through the eyes of experience, it’s hard to believe most of these themes are directed at children. But that’s exactly what’s happening… here’s just a small example:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYbU7CvDzMo

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saKL0r5IrBU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK__ZXFgSAQ

    ~ApotheosisNow444———————– Announce Announce Announce

    ————————Skeleton K I L L U M I N A T I Skeleton—————-

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  170. #170 dreamwalker
    March 15, 2011 am31 5:01 pm

    HOLY SMOKES- they’ve been listening in! (Good timing Gunner!)

    Guess you guys better read up on your new home Smile

    Quote:

    This warning is simple: the Earth’s surface is no longer to be your home! Accept your heritage of full consciousness and return with your space family to the wonder that is Agartha (Inner Earth)!

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  171. #171 Admiral2012here
    March 15, 2011 am31 5:06 pm

    …Stick, yeah, look’n back at the cartoons is very interesting. I like look’n back at the cartoons as I can now see the dark cabal’s subliminal messages in them. Amazing!

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  172. #172 Admiral2012here
    March 15, 2011 am31 5:09 pm

    …lol DW, yep…listen’n in…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxZZ6qDmX6Y

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  173. #173 Stick
    March 15, 2011 am31 5:13 pm

    JBiZ: I remember enjoying the first Zeitgeist film… need to make some Clock to see the other two. What you’ve shared about the ‘Zeitgeist Movement’ certainly sounds intriguing, although it’s quite unlikely it will directly intersect with my path. As for indirectly, it seems it already has… and I’m quite happy to embrace it as another essential component of the grass roots movements that will tip the scales toward Humanities encounter with inevitability. Real change will come from the bottom up, not the top down. I’ll also check out info on ‘the Venus Project’, and ‘Jacque Fresco’s Resource-Based Economy concept,’ as I don’t believe I’ve encountered them before. Thanks for the tip.

    Yin Yang Terence McKenna: Shamanic Approaches To The UFO:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qopOxFoHfN8

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViBx-w19_qA

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoDFPh8sh7o

    ~ZionMainframe1111

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  174. #174 John
    March 15, 2011 am31 5:27 pm

    When I read the latest from the Sirians, what crossed my mind is that some of the limits placed on first contact have been eliminated. There is now the possibility of a scenario of

    “Well there ya go, this is what you built and you are welcome to it… We and our friends are going to the park… Once your world has collapsed around your ears, we’ll come back and clean up. Have fun…”.

    Let em have what they have built, just get us outta here till the dust settles. I’m totally ready to head off and see some new sights. Not sure if they are ready for me though.

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  175. #175 Admiral2012here
    March 15, 2011 am31 5:41 pm

    …yeah, I feel like the GF gets a little aggitated with us down here causing so much chaos and kill’n ourselves…well, except us few who want a beautiful peaceful world. However, the GF won’t let us down…exciting times ahead

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  176. #176 Kellia
    March 15, 2011 am31 5:46 pm

    Breaking: New Fire at Reactor 4 of Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Plant in Japan 15 Mar 2011 Another fire broke out at the No. 4 reactor of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant on Wednesday, according to reports, citing Tokyo Electric Power Co., or Tepco. The latest fire follows three explosions and one fire at the nuclear complex since last Friday, when a massive earthquake and tsunami hit the country. A fire on Tuesday at the No. 4 reactor was reportedly the cause of a spike in radiation levels around the plant

    Panicked residents start to flee Tokyo as radiation levels rise after THIRD blast at stricken nuclear power plant –Radiation leaking directly into the air from stricken Fukushima nuclear plant –Power station has now suffered three reactor explosions and one fire –One reactor core ‘exposed to the atmosphere’ through crack in containment wall –Radiation levels up to ten times higher than normal in Tokyo 15 Mar 2011 Scores of terrified residents began to flee Tokyo today as a nuclear power plant destroyed by the tsunami threatened to send a cloud of radioactive dust across Japan. The Fukushima Dai-ichi plant suffered a third reactor explosion last night, another reactor on the site caught fire – and officials today announced the wall of one reactor was cracked. Radiation levels have soared across the country as radioactive material spewed directly into the atmosphere while emergency crews fought to avoid a catastrophic meltdown. Levels of radiation were ten times higher than normal in the capital today, as experts warned that people in Japan could face an increased cancer risk even if the crisis does not deteriorate.

    U.S. Navy Detects Radiation 200 Miles From Japan Nuclear Plant 15 Mar 2011 The U.S. Navy said Tuesday that very low levels of airborne radiation were detected at Yokosuka and Atsugi bases, about 200 miles to the north of the Fukushima nuclear power plant. Fox News has confirmed that a small number of U.S. service members have been exposed to radiation Tuesday and are being treated with potassium iodide pills.

    Japanese authorities impose no-fly zone above blast-hit nuclear plant 15 Mar 2011 The Japanese Transport Ministry declared a no-fly zone within the range of 30 km from the blast-hit Fukushima 1 Nuclear Power Plant, the Kyodo news agency said on Tuesday. The ban does not include planes and helicopters involved in rescue efforts and delivering aid to quake-hit areas.

    Powerful quake hits Shizuoka 15 Mar 2011 A powerful earthquake with a preliminary magnitude of 6.0 jolted central Japan on Tuesday night. The Japan Meteorological Agency says the quake with an intensity of 6 plus on the Japanese seismic scale zero to 7 hit at 10:31 PM. The focus of the quake is in the eastern part of Shizuoka Prefecture and is estimated to be at a depth of 10 kilometers.

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  177. #177 Admiral2012here
    March 15, 2011 am31 6:15 pm

    MATTHEW – JAPAN’s EARTHQUAKE (Recap)

    1. With loving greetings from all souls at this station, this is Matthew. The earthquake off the coast of Japan, strategically positioned to cause the tsunami, was not Mother Nature’s doing. Her only involvement was the unavoidable initial movements of land and water after Illuminati scientists triggered the quake. Our space family was able to thwart their goal to level cities, flood the island and kill most of its inhabitants; however, harnessing the full force of the ocean is beyond the capability of their technology. Mother Nature isn’t causing the suspicious number of aftershocks, either, and it should be obvious to your seismologists and geologists that something is horribly awry.

    2. The peak members of the Illuminati know that their economic empire is shattered, and before the last shreds of their once impenetrable global network are completely gone, they are trying to generate a mass of negativity through creating chaos, destruction and high death toll wherever they can. For all the devastation in the ocean’s path and the damaged nuclear power facility, compared to the Illuminati’s intent to utterly destroy Japan, it was a shallow win for them. There was minimal damage in Tokyo; the quake, aftershocks and tsunami released a large amount of negativity on the planet; off-planet technology is lessening the effects of radiation from the power station; and other civilizations are beaming intense light, adding to the outpouring of prayers for the Japanese people, whose resilience and resourcefulness and the assistance of other countries will restore that nation.

    http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=131&z=2

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  178. #178 dreamwalker
    March 15, 2011 am31 7:14 pm

    Ok, I get the irony of posting Sa tu rn here, but here it is anyways!

    You guys will have to insert the name of the planet in the link, unfortunately Frown

    http://gizmodo.com/#!5782085/this-breathtaking-saturn-fly+by-video-is-exactly-what-everyones-soul-needs-right-now

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  179. #179 spedman
    March 15, 2011 am31 7:17 pm

    linky no worky dreamwalker Frown oh wait yes it does lolol scuse my ignance

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  180. #180 Admiral2012here
    March 15, 2011 am31 7:18 pm

    …meanwhile, back at the ranch…

    KID BODYSLAMS BULLY, BECOMES INSTANT WEB HERO

    The same brief clip has been uploaded over and over on the Web: A scrawny bully sucker punches a larger chunkier boy multiple times, as other kids look on, some taunting. Then suddenly, with the speed and agility of an alligator, the victim responds, flipping the kid and bodyslamming him. Bully neutralized. Cue the Facebook hero worship

    http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/03/15/6275007-kid-bodyslams-bully-becomes-instant-web-hero?gt1=43001

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  181. #181 dreamwalker
    March 15, 2011 am31 7:19 pm

    #172 ya I saw that mindbending BBC vid. What a great job they did of that. So many different levels of truth there Smile

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  182. #182 dreamwalker
    March 15, 2011 am31 7:22 pm

    Sorry spedman Sa tu rn is a bad word here.

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  183. #183 spedman
    March 15, 2011 am31 7:23 pm

    ty dreamwalker that was beautiful

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  184. #184 dreamwalker
    March 15, 2011 am31 7:26 pm

    Reefer #155 good find. Listening on the radio this evening the Japanese government is being called out for downplaying the seriousness of the problem.

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  185. #185 Admiral2012here
    March 15, 2011 am31 7:32 pm

    …I was curious about those potassium iodide pills they are handing out for radiation treatment. Really didn’t find any sites that caution you on them, or maybe I didn’t dig deep enough, but I did see they are sell’n like hot cakes

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  186. #186 Admiral2012here
    March 15, 2011 am31 7:41 pm

    …hey DW, get your Avatar on >>> http://en.gravatar.com/

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  187. #187 dreamwalker
    March 15, 2011 am31 7:57 pm

    @gunner – sorry I stated earlier that Mt Shasta was an entrance to Agartha. It’s not – Mt Shasta is an entrance to Telos, but it’s unusable by us as far as I know.

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  188. #188 dreamwalker
    March 15, 2011 am31 8:01 pm

    Frikin LASER BEAMS

    http://stevebeckow.com/2011/03/weathercontrol-installation-nevada/

    Don’t put your pets there, man!!!!!

    That’s a pretty impressive installation, whatever it is.

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  189. #189 Admiral2012here
    March 15, 2011 am31 8:25 pm

    …DW…kinda reminds me of this

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jV6Dhza2G0

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  190. #190 Admiral2012here
    March 15, 2011 am31 8:33 pm

    BIGGG TESLA COIL OF OKLAHOMA

    15 FOOT TALL TESLA COIL WITH MAX. SPARKS OF 26 FEET. RUNS UP TO 55,000 WATTS IN NEWCASTLE OKLAHOMA

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY-AS13fl30&feature=related

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  191. #191 dreamwalker
    March 15, 2011 am31 8:40 pm

    Grandmother Earth, from where we have come and to where we shall return, show us the path to grow with you, that we may become one
    Grandfather Raven, help us laugh at ourselves so that we may learn from ourselves, and lead us out of darkness
    Grandmother Bear, bring us your energy and strength, that we may help each other in these times of need
    Grandfather Buffalo, bring us the bounty to help others and sustain us during these difficult times
    Grandfather Wolf, teach us to be the love and light that we will become
    Great Spirit, creator of all things, we ask for your protection and assistance, especially to the people in Japan. Allow all entities of the light to offer their assistance here on earth, and enable them to protect my people from physical and spiritual harm.

    All my relations

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  192. #192 dreamwalker
    March 15, 2011 am31 8:42 pm

    @Ads now we just have figure out how to staple them to the sharks hehe

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh7bYNAHXxw

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  193. #193 Admiral2012here
    March 15, 2011 am31 8:49 pm
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  194. #194 Gordon
    March 15, 2011 am31 11:14 pm

    Don’t bother with the potassium iodide unless you are in or near Japan. The idea is to bolster the body’s amount of nonradioactive iodine to protect the thyroid from taking up radioactive iodine-131, but that isotope of iodine won’t be able to survive long enough to reach very far. Iodine-131 is too short lived to make it very far. It has a half-life of only 9 days. People in affected areas of Japan should avoid milk products from exposed cows for the next few months.

    The bigger threat is cesium-137 and strontium-90. However, it may not be possible to avoid them as they can be inhaled in the dust. Strontium-90 collects in the bone, and cesium-137 affects the whole body.

    http://www.epa.gov/radiation/radionuclides/iodine.html
    http://www.epa.gov/radiation/radionuclides/cesium.html
    http://www.epa.gov/radiation/radionuclides/strontium.html

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  195. #195 spedman
    March 16, 2011 am31 4:10 am

    SaLuSa, March 16, 2011

    As problems upon Earth proceed to become more threatening, bear in mind that whereas the dark Ones can use force to achieve their objectives, the Light works in a more subtle way. Because it is co-ordinated across the world when it does cause action to take place, it is usually most powerful and cannot be stopped by any conventional methods. In fact it is the most powerful force in the Universe. Therefore regardless of the opposition against it, it will achieve its purpose. Presently it is increasing in its power levels, and will continue to do so all of the way to Ascension. Try not to be overwhelmed by the disasters that are happening, and know that there will be a positive outcome that will lift you up to a higher level. Much of what has happened was foreseen, but as it relates to karma – sometimes on a group level, it must be allowed to work through. From our point of view all will proceed as planned, and the Universe will finally ascend.

    A lot can happen in a short time, and as you progress through this year events are going to become quite hectic. The people are beginning to take charge of their own future, and will not stand for the old ways to be reinstated. They realize that what were supposed to be democratic governments in many countries around the world, were more totalitarian and not answerable to them. In fact in many of them voting was a sham, and dictatorships existed that served themselves by denying the people their entitlement. In waking up to what has been taking place, they have stopped the dark Ones in their tracks and opened opportunities for a regime change. Not only that, when they take place they will be changes complete with a new policy, that will address the wrongs of many hundreds of years. These new energies for change will strengthen the resolve of those dear souls who have stepped forward to challenge the old set-up. Their endeavors are supported by us, and we guide them so as to achieve the victory that will fully open the path to Ascension.

    As ever time continues to speed up, and that is a sure sign that you are well on the way to the great upliftment of 2012. Life goes on for every soul regardless of what they believe will actually happen once that date is reached. In part you create your own future, but the fact remains that the final act will be Ascension. There is no necessity for great catastrophes or disasters, or masses of people dying as a result of them simply to reach that point in time. The only link between the two is the need to cleanse the Earth so that she is ready to ascend with you. So the remaining months will be filled with all manner of different happenings, which will gradually become more acceptable and beneficial to everyone. By then we will certainly have been officially accepted as visitors to your planet. In actuality we already have your acceptance, and the numbers of people turning to us are increasing each day.

    The course is set for your release from the Illuminati, and they strike out in their last desperate attempts to delay or prevent Ascension. Their days are numbered, and little time remains for them to continue in opposition to us. It will be with absolute delight that we finally remove the dark Ones from positions of power, and bring in Beings of Light that have been waiting such as opportunity to replace them. These are our allies that have already done so much to create a structure that aids our plan for your release. Also many, many of you have especially incarnated at this time to be part of the final days upon the old Earth. Each you have something to offer that will be called upon when the time is right. There will be so much activity going on, you may be sure that even at a local community level, you will have plenty to occupy you.

    Our appearance on your television channels will enable us to reach out to people to dispel any doubts that they may have about our intentions. We will go to great lengths to explain why we are here, and the plan to take you up to the end time. We serve you through the Galactic Federation, and Ascension is not the end of our presence with you, as we shall become your fellow travelers through the Galaxies if you should so choose. You will be able to visit the home of civilizations that dwell in the higher dimensions, and will be accepted as one of them. To say the least, you will be somewhat different to what you are now as you have yet to rise up to the higher levels of vibration. When you have done so, and work from your higher consciousness you will truly have become Galactic Beings. That is your present goal, and our help will be given to ensure you achieve it. These are all matters that we will need to introduce to you, and clearly it will be much easier when we are openly with you.

    We will have a common bond with those of you that do ascend, because you are cognizant with the understanding of the Source, and that it is All That Is. Respect, Love and Gratitude are our offerings to the Creator and we know that many of you share those sentiments. The truth of such matters is also important for you to know, and they will be covered in due course of time. A belief in God will carry you forward, until we can enlighten you although we must say that many inspired teachers are already on Earth. Following religion as such is not our way, as all knowledge can be found within. You have it now, but find it difficult to touch that level of your consciousness. For the time being trust your intuitive powers and follow their promptings.

    I am SaLuSa from Sirius, and watch the ever-changing levels of mass consciousness on your world. With each disaster a loving glow arises from Earth, showing how much love and compassion is being felt for those who are the victims of them. It is bringing people together who see the need to take back their power, so as to create a new world that is based upon caring and love for each other. It is truly remarkable how far you have come in such a very short time. It was expected to be so, but until the time arrived there was no certainty as to exactly what you would achieve. However, Ascension is the Creator’s directive, and no one but the Creator can change what has been decreed. Knowing this it must have a positive affect on you, as you need have no concerns or worries about the end time. We of the Galactic Federation are geared up to move anywhere at a minutes notice, and well rehearsed in all aspects of our assistance for you.

    Thank you SaLuSa,

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  196. #196 spedman
    March 16, 2011 am31 4:17 am

    Good afternoon my friends. It seems so long since we chatted, but in the big scheme of things … not really. A lot has taken place on our planet in that time. I have pondered upon these events and what would be appropriate to discuss with you , and I have come to the conclusion that I shall just see how the conversation flows. In my eyes, in my heart, I know that you know what is best for us to hear at any given time so I shall leave it in your capable hands if I may?

    We are thankful for your consideration. In times such as these upon your planet … there are possibilities that can occur and as to whether or not they do …. can not be controlled by us and nor indeed would we desire to do so. However may we state , that unless there is to be a peaceful outcome to all that your Earth is having to endure in these present circumstances … we feel that we have no choice but to intervene at a juncture that we see fitting. There are rules and regulations that must be abided by throughout the Universe. This Universe that we all frequent . There is of course free choice … free will … and yet there are boundaries that simply cannot be crossed. When they are … how would we address this … the Creator sees to it that such matters are dealt with in a manner that is fair and just.

    So are you saying that certain boundaries have been crossed?

    We are. That which is known upon your planet, so much of which you consider to be borderline is far from the legitimacy of our call.

    In my naivety, I do not really understand that last statement. Could you break it down for me please?

    We have been able to express to you over our communications the reasonings behind many of our actions or ‘lack of actions’. We choose, because of our sovereignty, to specify only subjects which we feel will enhance the vibrational frequency of those dwelling upon your planet, and we feel that in this fashion we are carrying out our dutiful and necessary commitments to your race as a whole. In saying this , we are also aware that there are matters that many feel the need to be addressed and we have chosen to ‘steer clear of’ due to the vibrational pull of any given matter and we choose to keep the vibration of our contact with you above a certain frequency. For when matters are discussed that are of a hugely negative frequency , it is natural for the entire level to be brought down to the vibration to which any given matter resides within. Are you following us?

    Yes. I have grown to understand this . I accept and appreciate it. So, what do you mean by ‘the legitimacy of our call’?

    We are explaining to you that certain incidents have arisen over these last weeks that do not serve and although we are of the nature not to interfere with the race of human kind and to ‘oversee’ how they evolve, there are limitations as to what we feel can be ‘gotten away with’. Because of these incredible times that we are all experiencing we have to make sure that the Divine plan is to remain on track, and it can not be that certain powerful forces who believe themselves to be rulers of the world can interfere beyond a certain point and send this Divine course … off course.

    OK … here I have to bring up something that obviously you know I have been thinking about. I have read that the latest disaster in Japan was not caused by Mother Nature .. and that it was created by the dark forces … I have also read to the contrary that it is to do with the poles shifting. To be honest , you ask us to listen to our hearts and get our Truthful answer from there, but the answer isn’t being given to me. At least at this point, not in a way that I understand. I am simply confused as to what is the Truth about all this. My heart/head ‘wants’ the Truth to be that it is the poles shifting. That’s’ a more pleasant Truth if you like. Yet there seems to be much evidence that an organization who controls the weather etc has set this off. Is this in fact what your conversation is leaning toward? I am not convinced one way or the other and I was quite apprehensive to begin this channell with you because of this very matter. Yet it does seem that you are saying that the dark forces were at work here …

    We are merely stressing the importance of staying in your Light and your Truth no matter what or who may have caused such cataclysmic events.

    Not wishing to be rude … but can you not just give a simple yes or no?

    Is that what you would Truly wish ?

    Yes.

    Then to honour your inquiry we would say NO.

    Which leaves me totally confused! What exactly then are you referring to in your earlier statements ? And also … are you saying that the Japan earthquake was to do with the magnetic pole shift?

    Throughout that which you refer to as history much has been discussed regarding these days that you are actually now living in. There have been mysteries unsolved … there have been great debates on what is and what is not to take place … and yet, here you all are , with the greatest of respect … awakening every morning in your world and continuing on with another day. That day is made up of moments and one can only BE in the moment of now. Right now in this moment you are writing this chat between us. It is happening NOW for you and for us … yet it will be a different moment of NOW when others get to read this conversation. Just because it is a different moment of now does not mean that anything has changed … and yet many NOW moments between this moment of writing and that moment of reading will have passed.

    Your point being? I am getting so lost in all this , but I’ll press on …

    Our point being … that within each given moment one experiences something … anything … depending on the place within their journey that they are in … how they choose to ‘interpret’ that given moment … be it something they have heard , something they have physically encountered … will determine how they live in their next moment of now. It can be a drastic turn of events that is to befall one , or the most beautiful next phase of their pathway , entirely depending on how they bring their heart into alignment with any given moment.

    So … what has all this got to do with the Truth of the earthquake and what you were talking about re the legitimacy of your call. Talk about going around and about the houses. You KNOW … you can FEEL , I am not frustrated , I am just wondering where you/we are traveling with all of this?

    We understand your need to find your answers. When we chat with you on a more ‘linear scale’ … we will be able to give you many ah ha moments. For now we have to leave you agog as you would say.

    Sorry chaps, but that’s not really on … not from my point of view. If there are matters that have crossed the line, and have to be dealt with and you say that it is not regarding man interfering with the recent earthquake … then at least give us some idea of what you are talking about, otherwise what is the point of even mentioning it? Do you see where I am coming from? In my eyes I would feel unsatisfied leaving it like that . Actually , I think I need to just take a break here and read back on what we have put down today , I feel I need to realign this whole conversation.

    OK , I read it … took a break … did some chores and thought it over. I ‘tuned in’ again , and as always I ask White Cloud to be my gatekeeper. I asked him to show me something to help as clearly I am struggling a little today. He showed me a black board full to the brim of equations and such like and then all of it being erased and written up was 1+1 =2 . So I took this to mean ‘lets go back to the basics’.

    OK chaps … at the beginning of this communication it seems that you were talking about boundaries being overstepped and there are those who want to rule the world and have simply crossed the borderline. You then quite categorically state that it was not this same ‘govern’ that had created the earthquake and its following tsunami. This is where I got confused. Rather than go over it all again , can you put today’s conversation with you into perspective for me ?

    We are aware that we have alerted you to something that your mind became lost within. We would never wish to upset or confuse and yet perhaps there are times when we realize that there is a greater barrier between your world and ours and that we undermine your position and perhaps too … we get a little carried away with what we presume is known. For indeed there is much known by us that as yet is unheard of … or even created as a thought in your earthly domain.

    And I have to admit too, to being apprehensive as I said before I began … as to how this would go … considering all that has taken place. So I shouldn’t think I have helped much regarding letting you say your piece … try as I might.

    I had one of those ‘ Just stick with the acting Bloss ‘ moments … This position I find myself in with you can bring out ones vulnerability and isn’t always plain sailing! Above all , you know I TRUST you. As you say this ‘barrier’ between worlds is probably far greater than those of us in the earthly vibration realize.

    Would you care for us to continue a little more?

    As long as it flows well and we don’t go round and round the mulberry bush. I have had enough of that for one session! I will clear my thoughts and just let you say what ever it is you feel is most valuable at this juncture.

    We do not desire that you imagine us to ‘pussyfoot’ around on any given matter. Yet we choose to be very particular regarding that which we feel is appropriate to be presented to you at any given time. We, as you may well be aware of , have knowledge to a degree that is way beyond your comprehension due to your location within the universe and the form that you are residing in. This is not to say that ‘elsewhere’ or other aspects of yourself ‘ know differently.’

    There is much on your world that is designed to propagate fear. Therefore, we feel it greatly beneficial to counteract that action by concentrating on that which is of purest Divine thoughts of Love. We understand your position. We fully appreciate the need for you and those of Earth to receive answers from us regarding serious disruptions upon your Earth plane … and yet with all respect … we still feel we have the upper hand in recognizing the bigger picture. The ‘need to know’ policy that is adhered to by we … The Federation of Light … is in place for a specific purpose. If certain knowledge was to be delivered to your inquisitive minds before its time, pandemonium would be let lose … and much of the effort on all of our parts to keep this transformation under control … would simply get out of hand. We must consider the safety of the whole as opposed to the wanting to KNOW NOW … when it simply isn’t within the plan to KNOW NOW.

    This too, we feel … can answer your confusion that is spoken of this day. It is not correct to delve more deeply into the matter and yet you asked us to speak freely on what we felt appropriate to speak of. May we say too dearest Blossom … that due to what YOU ‘think’ we may be addressing … this is where the confusion can set in. Naturally your train of thought may wander down a particular track and it may not be the track that we are wandering down … at all. This unfortunately can cause the ‘disruption’ between our communication and yet we accept that these dilemma’s may sometimes occur and cannot always be avoided.

    Yes, how easy it would be if you could just call my mobile … or send me a fax and I’d print it out for you. Yet I often consider how far we have come as friends and communicators over the years. There was no teacher for me to explain ‘how to communicate with ET’s ‘ we just had to TRUST each other and it is only now and then , like today when things go a little off track. I am not an A student yet , but I am willing to keep on going … because I feel that you have taught us so very much … and because of these teachings and many of this nature … we are changing our world. We are so very grateful … and no matter what occurs I will continue our treasured friendship. Funny, I feel it’s time to close and yet I don’t really feel we have said anything of note for ‘your fans’ to assimilate.

    You would be surprised.

    Thing is … I know I shall post this , as I post all communications with you. Yet I have to say … I don’t feel it is one of the more ‘revelationary ‘ get together’s. Maybe I expected too much because of what has been going on .

    Maybe you underestimate that which has been said.

    Maybe I need a cup of coffee!

    Remain heartstrong. What is to come will lift your feelings and bring with it your vibrational upliftment also. These times are known to bring much melancholy and yet there is to be the contrast to let you KNOW that all is well. All is indeed very well.

    Okidokey . Many thanks to you … through it all. In Love and Light also. I DO LOVE YOU, you know!

    Our feelings feel this Love … in the same way that your feelings feel ours.

    Website: Blossom Goodchild

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  197. #197 spedman
    March 16, 2011 am31 4:32 am

    ya know after reading blossom i think i’m more confused than she is Question Question Question Question Question Question Question Question

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  198. #198 dreamwalker
    March 16, 2011 am31 6:15 am

    @Ads on the tesla coil tangent these ones from Russia are really beautiful:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Td–HItuoI&feature=related

    What purpose does an open-air tesla coil serve other than the coolness factor? Honestly I think they should have have one of these babies at every carnival!

    @gunner thanks for sharing your experience regarding the UFO dream. What an awesome experience. It’s hard for me to grasp but I think they have the ability to create reality from thought. Salusa and GF have mentioned this in the past. So to us it seems like a dream, but it is also real. This is what he means, I think, and as we make our transition, for some of us (as it has with you) these things will become more and more real.

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  199. #199 Laurinda
    March 16, 2011 am31 6:34 am

    Sped #197: I stopped finding any encouragement on Blossom’s site a long time ago. Her latest message is as “dodgey” as ever. Her guides serve only to confuse her more and more, but I do love that sweet lady all the same!

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  200. #200 JBiZ
    March 16, 2011 am31 6:35 am

    Morning Folks!

    I have one serious issue with transmissions that corroborate.

    Not every medium channels on the same day.

    Of COURSE this finite network of self-proclaimed mediums has an opportunity to read the messages of their peers. And as >GORDON< mentioned previously, a medium’s message can be influenced by their own lives, biases, prejudices, likes, dislikes, opinions, ideas… you get my point.

    So before we get all up in arms about similar messages, lets remember the factors that may have influenced the similarities.

    Now. Something I saw this weekend that I cannot explain…

    Anyone seen the Tether Incident?

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  201. #201 Robin.
    March 16, 2011 am31 6:56 am

    Hi Folks!

    Phew!

    So I go away for a week working on a (BEAUTIFUL) Festival in the country with no Internet.. and all shit gets loosed on our Japanese neighbours!

    ‘Fu*k us him a’ what? Dickhead? Sorry I couldn’t help laughing when I first saw that!

    We sent heaps and masses of Love & Light to the zone from Maitreya Festival and had 10 Japanese Decor crew working with us.. all their families are OK.

    What’s the gossip? What have I been missing here?

    Hieee Laurinda, FANCY seeing you here! Smile
    Malpy back yet too or is she still sulking?

    I’m getting my Geiger Counter out of storage tomorrow anyway.. just to monitor background levels. I used it in London after Chernobyl and watched levels rise by about 20%.

    Heaps of Love & Light to you all..

    Smile Smile Smile

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  202. #202 Laurinda
    March 16, 2011 am31 7:16 am

    Welcome back Robin!!!!!!!!!!!!! In Love

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  203. #203 dreamwalker
    March 16, 2011 am31 7:28 am

    #197 Spedman, I’m not sure how they could have been any more clear to be honest.

    What they are explaining is similar to our very own Jim episode, but on a different level. During that, some of us decided to engage and were dragged into the fray. Others chose to ignore it, at the risk of seeming either supportive or detached from the issues. Others chose to focus on the positive, which can be hard to do when there is much in the way of negative.

    So what they are saying is that they prefer to focus on the positive aspects of our lives – there is no point in placing blame on any one thing as it would be a way for them to be dragged into the fray. This is simply not how they work. This negative/positive barrier is something that prevents them from addressing the question directly.

    I think she is having a hard time getting creative with her questions. There is a way to get the answer she wants, I think – she’s just not asking the question in the right way.

    I run into this on a daily basis developing IT applications. Someone says “I want this to do x”. But usually before I can give them an answer, I have to redefine their question in a way that will let me give them a satisfactory answer.

    For the most part it sounds like they are not able to intervene in the question part of the process, so she needs to figure out how to ask the right question on her own.

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  204. #204 dreamwalker
    March 16, 2011 am31 7:42 am

    #197 Another way of looking at it is that we humans tend to get dragged into lynching parties fairly easily *cough* Sarah Palin *cough* and they don’t want to incite a riot.

    Y’all just get yer pitchforks and torches and meet me down by the old well in half an hour…

    Man, we really have come a long way in such a short amount of time, haven’t we? If this were 1960 Alabama that would be considered polite dinner conversation.

    Shock

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  205. #205 Robin.
    March 16, 2011 am31 7:45 am

    Same to you Laurinda!!!!!! Smile

    Still doesn’t answer my question though!

    In Light!

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  206. #206 dreamwalker
    March 16, 2011 am31 7:52 am

    #204 see that? Instant divisiveness!

    It just dawned on me that we have an advantage over them. We are currently able to operate freely at both frequencies, they are not. This gives us much more flexibility and adaptability in the current NOW moment, because we can freely move from one to the other.

    This is not to say that they don’t have free will, it’s just that they are constrained by a frequency barrier, and there is very little middle ground.

    There is much power in this for us because a lower frequency action can in some cases bring about a future higher frequency action, if you know what you’re doing. They do not have this advantage.

    The downside of this is that we have to deal with both frequencies. We can focus on just one, but we still have to deal with the other. That is our nature.

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  207. #207 Robin.
    March 16, 2011 am31 8:22 am

    Right.. so Jimmy-boy got the boot.

    I fail to see why it took SO bloody long quite honestly! Still.. better late than never! Smile

    See how ONE person can spread SO much negativity SO quickly!

    Matthew from earlier.. Yes, I agree and I’m usually pretty quick to jump straight onto these types here, but without ‘backup’ it then becomes a futile public struggle that I would prefer to then simply ‘ignore’.. but the insideous undercurrents continue to subtly (or not quite so subtly) pervade none the less!

    Love & Light to Ya Jim.. you’ll find your Heart in the end mate!

    Smile Smile Smile

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  208. #208 JBiZ
    March 16, 2011 am31 8:49 am

    I’m so confused. So the inner Earth Agarthans want us to join them underground while the extraterrestrial camps are claiming to have technology that will keep surface life safe.

    Which is it? Is it both?

    If multiple species are engaged in the drama that is Earth, we may have options.

    The funny thing is, these supposed Galactic allies make no mention of each other in these transmission. Doesn’t that seem odd?

    I’ve never read a transmission from the Agarthans (inner Earth) that confirms the existence of extraterrestrial allies.

    If they are both offering solutions to Humanity and they both have some crazy ass technology, wouldn’t they know of each other?

    Would it not help stifle the confusion if they were to acknowledge one another?

    This is my problem with mediums. It would appear that each medium subscribes to a certain theme. Each independent theme is enormously detailed and rich with history, however, where is the acknowledgment of one another in the current catalog of transmissions?

    Please, if anyone has significant evidence showing that the inner Earth Agarthans indeed have extraterrestrial allies, I would love this info. I am pretty sure that none exists though since most mediums make money off of there transmissions and they would have to be “right” in order to continue to generate that income.

    In other words, Sheldon and Mike are in competition for business. They both suggest that their are Earth allies, but no mention of who.

    Have we even stopped and asked ourselves how they can consider themselves our allies?

    We have ZERO evidence of ANY of their assistance.

    Disabling a secret base which none of us knew anything about is hardly evidence. I could just as easily tell you that I was up late last night disabling secret bases. Come on now!

    Anyway, maybe a few of us should start devouring the Wiki Leaks cables. I’m down, but it is a lot of info. I will not take on this task alone.

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  209. #209 Robin.
    March 16, 2011 am31 9:14 am

    Beckow reckons Nidle is dodgy.
    NOT going to Inner Earth etc.
    I stirred the pot (NOT deliberately, of course!) on his 2012 Forum recently by posting Nidle’s update there.. and got jumped upon by moderators armed with scapels!

    Any misinformation always contains just enough Truth to resonate at some level before then being loaded up with a greater padding of UNtruth..
    personally I like the idea of an Inner Earth, but I certainly don’t wish to be ‘kidnapped’ to there against my wishes!

    In Light!

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  210. #210 Admiral2012here
    March 16, 2011 am31 9:15 am

    MATTHEW – HOLLOW EARTH INHABITANTS (Recap)

    S: OK, thank you. A few people are questioning the existence of a “hollow Earth” with inhabitants.

    32. MATTHEW: The planet never was “solid,” but not always since its formation have souls lived beneath the surface. Some souls who perished physically in Lemurian, Atlantean and prior civilizations chose to return to an Earth lifetime and formed a homeland safe from later residents who it was known would come with cellular patterning with the dark influence that eventually would cause wars, brutality and other ungodly acts. So for millennia these spiritually evolved souls have flourished in their beautiful sanctuary in Earth’s interior, always aware of happenings on the surface and sending love energy to the souls in the midst of those lifetimes. Like your extraterrestrial family who have been helping you on and above the planet, the souls in the interior will introduce themselves when it is safe to do so. You will experience the reality of what we have been telling you: From The Beginning, you have been loved, assisted, cared for and honored

    http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=52

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  211. #211 dreamwalker
    March 16, 2011 am31 9:16 am

    JBIZ – All valid points.

    These guys are currently living in different dimensions, so they can’t communicate with each other. They are all aware of what is going on here on earth, though.

    I think if we were smart we could set up a relay between the different parties here on earth between different mediums. It would be a little chaotic for the mediums but it could be done. It could even give “them” an edge to better coordinate their process.

    So I could see a telosian medium, an agarthan medium, and a Sirian medium (er, GFL) all sitting down with a coordinator and a planner. The coordinator manages the talking stick so only 1 communication happens at a time. The planner collects the questions and poses questions where needed.

    The mediums simply serve as the communicator and need to “step out of the way” so their role is simply to ask a question and relay an answer.

    This could even be one of the tests they mention – could we pull together in such a way? If we can’t I think it would be an answer to many of your questions – the mediums are unwilling to cooperate because everything is a fabrication.

    Are there any Agartha mediums? My understanding is that the Agarthans are currently keeping a fairly low profile. The only thing I’ve read are the stories of people going there.

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  212. #212 dreamwalker
    March 16, 2011 am31 9:21 am

    Talking about blasts from the past, anyone remember this show?

    Land of the Lost
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNhu-aESVqc

    It’s even got deros reptillians! I used to watch this show all the time as a kid.

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  213. #213 Admiral2012here
    March 16, 2011 am31 10:00 am

    …Salusa’s new message is up, see ya over there

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  214. #214 Gordon
    March 16, 2011 am31 12:11 pm

    dreamwalker, I used to sit paralyzed in fear at the Sleastaks (the reptilians in Land of the Lost)… Land of the Lost was incredibly cool. Now talk about earthquakes. Land of the Lost had dinosaurs fighting each other while huge cracks opened up in the Earth beneath them, and volcanoes spewed in the background!

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