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Message from SaLuSa for 27 May 2011

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    SaLuSa 27-May-2011

    Your progress continues to delight us, and our interest is in your collective levels of consciousness. How they have grown in a relatively short time compared to last century. It is this success that has placed you firmly upon the path to Ascension. It means that you have overcome the intent of the dark Ones to prevent your onward progress. Now you have realised that the power lies in your own hands, and it has largely removed the fear factor that was so essential to the dark Ones success. Their control over you is ebbing away, and there is no longer any way that they will regain it. That is an absolute promise from us to you, and very soon there will be actions that shall back it up. Needless to say, the last half of this year will be a great turning point in your lives.

    Suddenly worldly matters are indicating a positive move towards peaceful settlements of old differences and wars of recent times. That is how the new energies bring out the Light in those involved in such issues, and it is getting progressively harder for those who would rather perpetuate the old ways. It will go further when the governmental changes can proceed, and then you will see real action combined with our coming. Because we are meticulous in our planning, what to you may seem impossible tasks to complete in such a short time to Ascension will present no problem to us. You asked for help and we are here to answer that call, and we have been divinely authorised to contact you. Our coming together was always planned and is a natural step upwards, as your consciousness grows and rapidly rises towards our level. We were One in the past, and it is your destiny and right to join us to renew your journey through the higher dimensions.

    Sadly but nevertheless by their own choice, there are numbers of souls who are insufficiently awakened at this time to even grasp the significance of the coming times. However, they will be cared for and given great love and care to settle them into a new environment. It will not be far removed from this present one, so that they can continue to incarnate into familiar surroundings. Then due to the cyclic nature of life, there will yet again come another opportunity to ascend. If your heart and love are with these souls, then you can serve them as we have served you for many thousands of years. The last time we walked on Earth with you in a peaceful period, was in Atlantean times long before its downfall. High states of spirituality were reached and many of you were there to experience it, and now you are at a similar stage but this time you will ascend.

    The Universe also rejoices at your success, as it will complete the picture so that every part of it can ascend. Believe us Dear Ones, that your future is followed very closely, as the experiment you have been involved in has resulted in wonderful advances in your evolution. Each one of you has been where many others would not wish to go, and endured tough and often wretched lives to experience duality. You did however know what a wonderful opportunity it presented to become a mentor to other souls, who might desire to tread the same path. Service to others becomes a natural ambition once you reach the higher dimensions.

    Having been earthbound for so long you have acquired a strong affinity with Mother Earth, which is why so many of you chosen to stay with her. It will be a grand experience to ascend together, and wonderful to see Mother Earth once again in all her splendour. If for example you decide to join us, then your life will be largely spent on board our great Motherships. In fact some are so large that they can easily replicate the surface of any planet. So it is like home-to-home and complete with other forms of life such as animals. They are no longer wild and have completely lost their primitive instinct for survival, as they live in perfect peace happiness. Such peace is a feature on all of our craft, and life is as satisfying as it could be anywhere else. The comradeship and partnership also includes families, and they have all that they could need for a happy and contented life.

    The Earth has been referred to as a prison planet and indeed that is what it became. However, it was Man who allowed the insidious tentacles of the dark Ones to gradually bring you into a state of control, so much so that you relinquished your power to them. Fortunately you woke up just in time to take back your power to decide your own future. In the space of just forty years you have brought so much to Earth it has re-created the grid around it, and it is soon due a great input of energy that will draw the new Earth nearer to manifestation. You are certainly not alone when it comes to preparing everything in readiness for Ascension, as there are legions of souls helping that are even from other Universes. It will be a memorable occasion when it occurs and many wish to be present to witness it.

    Tucked away in your homes it might seem that all of our talk is but a dream, but you will physically experience Ascension albeit your bodies will have been suitably prepared by that time. As so many of you have already found, the new energies are powerful and are affecting you in a number of different ways. That is your assurance that things are happening as we advise you, and we expect even more of you to begin to experience greater levels of consciousness. You will find a peace settling upon you that enables you to keep calm whatever the circumstances, a sure sign that you are making good progress. It will be like your experience of time speeding up, and be quite substantial as you edge your way towards becoming a Galactic Being.

    There are many wonders awaiting you, and the guarantee of world peace will set you all at ease. Then you can get together to appreciate the differences between you all that make you unique. With the understanding that you are All One the racial tensions and disputes will disappear, and religion such as you know it will reform to be based upon the new truths that will be revealed. The One God will be accepted for all followers, and at a stroke remove what has proved to be the root of many problems and wars over the centuries.

    I am SaLuSa from Sirius, and guide you to the truth that must surface and be acknowledged if you are to unite.

    Thank you SaLuSa,

    Mike Quinsey.

93 Comments
  1. #1 Azzeylay
    May 27, 2011 pm31 2:26 pm

    Ok, first up at bat! Wow, haven’t been able to do this in a long time; feels greeeeeaaatttt! Have a terrific weekend to everyone!!!

    Cool

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  2. #2 Azzeylay
    May 27, 2011 pm31 2:27 pm

    And, of course, thanks to Mike and Salusa and the entire GM staff for all you do!

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  3. #3 Azzeylay
    May 27, 2011 pm31 2:32 pm

    For your consideration!

    ***
    AN URGET MESSAGE FROM THE ‘ANCIENT ONES’ TO THE NATIVE AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT PLANET EARTH

    An Urgent Message from the “Ancient Ones ” to the Native American People about what Planet Earth is going through right now and what they can do to assist HER at this time .

    Very beautiful !!! A ver heartfelt message ….

    Enjoy the blessings ♥ !!!

    Infinite gratitude to the Music “Rhythm of the Heart ” by AH NEE MAH

    MORE IMPORTANT videos and info about Planet Earth and her final shifting and important events that are coming :

    ♥ The Final Shifting of Planet Earth and Humanity: A new relationship with Earth

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGJQO8KUNnQ&feature=watch_response

    ♥ Ascended Master’s world message regarding the current events taking place on Planet Earth

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeSDHrYfvOk&feature=channel_video_title

    ♥ A Spectacle of Light is coming to the Earth for 3 days

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2CXbKYKZuE&feature=relmfu

    ♥ “An Important and Urgent Message for Help to assist Mother Earth from the Ascended Masters ”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fze7FsEzuQY&feature=relmfu

    VIEW VIDEO

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuIWp_TV5bs&feature=player_embedded

    May 27, 2011

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  4. #4 Azzeylay
    May 27, 2011 pm31 2:36 pm

    Before I post anymore ‘news’, would someone give me a read on this Sorcha Faal?! There is an interesting story just now circulating regarding the G8 Summitt and the agenda of shutting down the internet with a program called Project IP; but, it is posted on her website. Want clarification before posting, thanks!

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  5. #5 LauraTyco
    May 27, 2011 pm31 2:39 pm
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  6. #6 LauraTyco
    May 27, 2011 pm31 2:41 pm

    A message from Peace in Space

    A MESSAGE FROM PeaceinSpace.com

    We are raising money for The Outer Space Security and Development Treaty of 2011 World Tour and Documentary that will establish and document a framework and procedures to assure that space will be a neutral realm from which all classes of weapons are banned and from which no hostile action shall be taken toward anyone on Earth or towards any beings from the surrounding Cosmos.

    This Treaty invites Nation State leaders to become Signatories to this Treaty and invites Parties, including Nation States, Indigenous Nations, and Cosmic Cultures to commit to plan and assist in the implementation of procedures that will verify the space above all our heads will be free of weapons forever. The Film Project will document the Treaty signing and messages from the world leaders of our planet!

    This Treaty will put a lid on the war industry and mindset while allowing it to be transformed. It recognizes that information gained and shared from cooperative space research, development, and exploration will no longer be used to enhance wars, but now will be applied directly to solving urgent planetary problems, providing unlimited benefits and opportunities, including jobs and new training programs and better ways of life to all humankind in areas of health, education, stimulated economies, mutual security, energy, and the environment! This Treaty acknowledges the truth that we are not alone in the universes, that there are Cosmic Cultures that will be important allies for our security and development, and our national and international policies must reflect this reality, which includes the truth that that none of the Cosmic Cultures are hostile.

    The money collected will go towards funding travel and coordination efforts of the core Space Treaty Team that consists of project founder Dr. Carol Rosin, and Project Consultants Hillary Raimo and Councillor Tamsin Williams, who will travel to obtain the signatures of at least 9 presidents in this effort to ban space-based weapons and, for the first time EVER in any treaty, to officially acknowledge the existence of extraterrestrial cultures. The money collected will also help pay for an experienced film crew that will capture history in the making for posterity. With your donation you become a co-producer (with screen credit) of one of the most important documentaries ever made. We are looking for you if you’re ready to help raise the frequency of our planet and help Earth to take its rightful place in a peaceful cosmic community.

    Supporters can also help by emailing your “Dear President” letter to us at spacetreaty@gmail.com (sample letter you can use is on the http://www.peaceinspace.com website). We will include your letter in the packages of information for world leaders. And, you can distribute copies of this Treaty to media and network it around the world as part of a grassroots Call to Action to get this Treaty signed into law that bans ALL space-based weapons forever and acknowledges the peaceful existence of Cosmic Cultures. Please go to our website http://www.peaceinspace.com (you can download the Treaty) to learn more about how to help. Together, we can and will get this Treaty signed into world law! Together we will take this vitally important steps towards ending wars! Together we will experience all the truths the Cosmic Cultures bring. Together we WILL make history! Please Help Us Today

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  7. #7 Azzeylay
    May 27, 2011 pm31 2:45 pm

    Ok, Malpy, watched it! Freaky, but, I don’t know! Has anyone gotten a translation yet?! Also, have you been watching any tv here in the USA?! Stephen Speilberg is introducing a fear induced television series about another alien invasion. Ridiculous! What do you think of the above video….lot’s of UFO sightings in Peru. Also, check out this site my oldest son tunes into….www.Thetruthbehindthescenes.wordpress.com. Intersting stuff there!
    Cya

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  8. #8 LauraTyco
    May 27, 2011 pm31 2:55 pm

    Thanks Azzey! I will check out his site girlie!!
    It is hard to tell, I am no expert. No idea what they are saying. Looks pretty fake to me, or some kind of projection by the cabal to induce fear already, in preparation for the fake invasion everybody is talking about. I think SaLuSa spoke of it on wed. himself.
    On the other hand it could be real, it could be the decloaking that makes it look funny? or the fact that they jump through dimensions.
    gut feeling tells me it is not the real deal though. Just wondering what are people thinking. What is your son thinking?

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  9. #9 sassy123456
    May 27, 2011 pm31 3:09 pm

    4# Azzey- Could you imagine if they shut down the internet? That would just about blow everyones mind. What if they shut off all cell phones too? Could you imagine? OMG.
    I guess if that happened I will see you good people when we ascend!

    Malps- I don’t know, looked kind of fake but who knows.Maybe some back engineered thing.

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  10. #10 LauraTyco
    May 27, 2011 pm31 3:14 pm

    Wow!! He covers lots of things!! SUPER!!
    Here is my blog: http://2012indyinfo.wordpress.com/
    and also: http://exofriends.blogspot.com/
    and also: http://reapirthepast.blogspot.com/

    I think your son and I think very alike. I will add his link to my blog if ok? Question

    Thank Sassy! I will let you know if a definite position comes up later on Smile
    Talk tomorrow Smile

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  11. #11 Kellia
    May 27, 2011 pm31 3:48 pm

    The Honeybee #115 from Weds.

    My response is on Weds post. You did not offend me.

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  12. #12 Admiral2012here
    May 27, 2011 pm31 3:49 pm

    …Malpy 5, I have a feel’n that’s a Cabal Ship preparing for the Fake Alien Invasion

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  13. #13 Admiral2012here
    May 27, 2011 pm31 3:51 pm

    …this goes with Malps #6

    DR. CAROL ROSIN “A CALL FOR ACTION” ON THE TREATY

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KECtbiTcPU

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  14. #14 conscious
    May 27, 2011 pm31 6:08 pm

    153last thread Kellia, I feel for you, seems like you have constructed some serious lessons of pathology into your blueprint. You know pathology is derived from the greek word pathos meaning “feeling suffering”. You say you are tired of suffering, so please let it go, if you cannot get yourself towards positive thinking or any new age blah blah, then at least try to have feelings of suffering or victimization freed from your inner being.
    Wishing you all the best and hoping you will be ready to receive soon. Try to focus on the life you really DO want and keep that focus SHARP. Smile Yin Yang Rainbow

    Sadly we all still need that cursed money to survive.

    Aloe Blacc – I Need A Dollar – Official Video HQ

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR6oYX1D-0w&feature=related

    5Malp, It looks like a hologram to me, but wether it is hologram or not, I am sure millions will believe pragmatically, yep it’s gonna be a bumpy ride! Alien Cyclops

    Sassy I guess people will be in a bigger state of panic when phone and internet connections are shut down than they would be when aliens land in their backyards. lol

    Azzelay, I love your gravatar pic, its so angelic! Angel

    Heart Heart Heart

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  15. #15 BlueCube
    May 27, 2011 pm31 7:12 pm

    Yeah, I don’t know about the Peruvian UFO vid…I want to believe it’s real, but the craft here looks far too threatening & is acting in a sneaky, subversive way: hopping from 1 cloud to the next as if playing spy-at-the-airport.

    When They come, I think some gov’t will have already announced them & given the populace time to adjust their paradigm. Plus, when They come I like to think they’re gonna dust off the best & brightest of the motherships, & not show up in the equivalent of the Millenium Falcon (which was sorta what this one reminded me of). It’s cool, though, that the Peruvians have it on their news; even if proven a hoax the visual beomes part of the mass consciousness.

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  16. #16 dreamwalker
    May 27, 2011 pm31 8:25 pm

    Laura, i found what you were looking for.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Urantia_Book

    Heart

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  17. #17 dreamwalker
    May 27, 2011 pm31 9:21 pm

    @ kellia, what you said was very insightful. The problem is that you are doing everything right, it’s just that it’s taking the rest of us so darn long to catch up.

    I have so much respect and appreciation for what you are doing.

    I wish i could just tell you to cut it out so you’ll have a better life, but I know you won’t listen!

    Sheesh… Braveheart is an understatement!

    A step that you didn’t mention is embracing the dark. What would that look like to you?

    I think I understand what Selphia was saying. Holy crap!

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  18. #18 Longtime Lurker
    May 27, 2011 pm31 9:21 pm

    #5 It is interesting, but it doesn’t feel real. It has the feel of the 9/11 videos. It also doesn’t look right, CGI was my first reaction. Video is to grainy to tell for sure. Looks a little to much like the Independence Day ships.

    Just my buck and a quarter.

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  19. #19 dreamwalker
    May 27, 2011 pm31 9:31 pm

    #5 lauramalps that looks like a very well done photoshop job to me. Project blue beam, probably. Not a hologram just photoshop.

    You can see by the trails behind it. This is the “heal” tool.

    Someone spent a lot of time editing this frame by frame. That worries me even more.

    i.e. Who has the resources to do this?

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  20. #20 CetaceousOne
    May 27, 2011 pm31 10:09 pm

    I think this is the best message in quite a while…!

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  21. #21 spedman
    May 27, 2011 pm31 11:35 pm

    sorry yall ….that wasn’t cgi in #5…. that was my hub cap off my old chariot racer. it’s been in my family for generations now and well i was desperate for some drugs one day….. sooooooo i traded it to some Peruvians for some high quality coke. i would recognize it anywhere. Silly Silly Silly Silly Silly Silly Silly Silly Silly Silly Silly Razz Razz Razz Wink Wink Wink ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL

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  22. #22 Stick
    May 28, 2011 pm31 12:53 am

    ———— LOVE, LIGHT & RESPECT GM MASSIVE! EVERYTIME!!! Lion———–

    **Your compassion for the suffering of others is one of the most
    powerful forces moving you towards your awakening** by John Smallman

    As you live expectantly, in the knowledge that your awakening into full consciousness is divinely decreed and guaranteed, you will experience days when your energy is low, and lack of motivation seems to have left you aimless. When this occurs know that your energy is being put to good use in the spiritual realms, and despite the enormous assistance you are receiving from them, it is, nevertheless, very draining for your bodies; and as you experience very little feedback it can be quite depressing.

    On days when you feel like this be kind to yourselves and forgive yourselves for any judgmental thoughts you may have about your seeming inadequacies. This is just a very demanding phase that will pass, so do not berate yourselves, but take a break and give yourselves a treat. If you will refrain from self-judgment and accept yourselves just as you are (and as God always does) you will feel much better, although your ego may well try to discourage you from doing so. A feeling of discouragement is a frequent egoic ruse.

    The Light of your energy, combined with the divine energies, is having quite a remarkable effect all across the world, as inhuman behavior by the agents of governments, government organizations, and large corporations are being called to account. The largely unquestioned authoritarian arrogance with which they have operated for so long is coming to an end, due to the increasing awareness people in many fields of endeavor are showing as they release into the public domain details of the damage this lack of oversight has allowed to happen.

    Your awareness of and compassion for the suffering of others, that has grown enormously over the last half dozen decades, is one of the most powerful forces moving you towards your awakening. It enables you to start understanding that you are all one. However, while you remain convinced of the individual separateness of each human being, another’s suffering can have no real meaning for you. You may, at an intellectual level, think suffering regrettable but you have no heartfelt sense of the other’s pain.

    This lack of sensitivity has made it easy to ride roughshod over others’ feelings while forcefully pursuing egoic personal agendas. This lack of sensitivity, which was an essential tool while you sought to support and maintain the illusion while you considered yourselves independent beings, is dissipating rapidly due to the decision the majority of you have made to cease your insane egoic behavior and, instead, make a determined effort to treat everyone with loving kindness and respect. Your guides and angels are intensifying their assistance to you as they see these wonderful changes in attitude occurring all over the world.

    You are now most firmly established on your path Home, and though there continue to be upsets and disturbances, you will not be side tracked because your will to return Home is aligned with and strengthened by the divine Will. Nothing can intervene to prevent you from reaching your most holy destination because your arrival there has been divinely assured. When you experience any doubts or anxieties about this just focus your attention on the inevitability of your Father delivering on His promise, and know that these doubts and anxieties are without foundation and will fade away as you remove your attention from them. -With so very much love, Saul.

    http://youtu.be/NkYssnrr8y4
    ~Can’tStopJahWorks777———————- Star Yin Yang Star

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  23. #23 Stick
    May 28, 2011 pm31 1:21 am

    **The Galactic Federation through Wanderer of the Skies**
    May 28, 2011

    Greetings from the Federation: We wish to speak directly about a number of “soft” Disclosure releases occurring from your world specifically about video images of various ET species. We cannot speak for all of them, but there are some which are truly images of other species. We believe this is the next level of disclosure planned by your governments as they see a necessity for you to become comfortable with these images. It is part of the planned exposure to our presence on your world. While some of us look like you, some are very different in appearance, and this “conditioning” must occur for you to reach a level of comfort in how we appear to you.

    Indeed, we have discussed in our own councils sending you our own images to this effect. Of course, no true consensus has been reached although we are of the position that such would benefit you greatly in this respect. With Disclosure nearer than ever, it may still come to pass.

    Most believe that they will be able to accept our appearance once they see our various forms, but even the most prepared among you may still recoil upon the appearance of some species to you. This conditioning, then, is a necessary step in the process and one you can accept as a sign that Disclosure is near. We believe these images will continue to “appear” in your media without word of their origin into the future as you become more acquainted with our various forms.

    You have been genetically engineered from long ago towards a tendency to xenophobia. It is part of your biological makeup and something we have taken into account in the Disclosure process. While we encourage your willingness to see us for who we really are, we recognize that you will have a biological urge to “recoil,” as it were, towards certain of our species. Do not look down upon each other for this reaction. Rather, see it for what it is. Know that when we come, we will act with the utmost in diplomacy for your feelings and preconceptions.

    We are getting closer now and it is time to prepare accordingly. See these signs around you for what they are. Your level of excitement is directly related to the truth you feel in your heart. Use that as your ultimate filter to guide you in these matters. Be joyous for what is coming.

    Be at peace Peace

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  24. #24 Stick
    May 28, 2011 pm31 1:52 am

    **Ashtar: Self-Compassion**
    May 28 2011 Channeler: Selene Aswell

    Dear Peoples of the Surface of the Earth: I, Ashtar Sheran of the Galactic Federation of Light, have such love for YOU! I have such love for your beautiful Earth, for your delight in living, and for your current expression of what it means to be a human.

    I want to remind you that there are other people, living within the Earth, who are currently expressing other ways of being human. They are living differently than how you live. It’s no more perfect than how you are, because they are no more expressions of the Divine than you are.

    Please take the time to be compassionate with yourselves. You are perfect as you are! You are perfect just because you are! Yes, we are encouraging you to shift the way you interact with each other, with the Earth, with us, and with All That Is… but that is because we believe these changes will bring you greater joy. These changes will bring All That Is greater joy.

    But please understand, if you can, that you have done no wrong. There is no punishment. There is no need to chastise yourselves, to seek to be other than what you are. What you are is perfect. If you seek a better life, greater happiness, or a more True experience of love, than please, do make the changes you feel necessary. We are grateful to help. But change because it is what you desire for yourselves and your children, not because someone else says you must.

    The changes we demonstrate come from pure desire for greater love. That is all.

    Treat yourselves with compassion as a flower knows it deserves sunlight, inherently. This could be the only change you make and you would still ascend, pop like popcorn into the 5th Dimension. If you don’t know how to feel compassion for yourself, if you are too hurt, too angry, too depressed, too stuck to give yourselves compassion, then ask for help. We will show you how. We will demonstrate compassion in our every interaction with you. We will unveil compassion in your hearts. We will help you peel back the layers of yourselves to reveal your core– You Are Compassion, expressed.

    As my friends Mother Mary and Quan Yin like to remind us, Compassion is Love in Action.

    I do love you my friends,
    Ashtar Sheran
    of the Galactic Federation of Light

    http://youtu.be/wJChuPvdrHs
    ~OneLoveRevolution888————————– Moon Heart Moon

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  25. #25 conscious
    May 28, 2011 pm31 4:05 am

    19dreamwalker,Project bluebeam IS holographic projection.

    “Bluebeam involves a gigantic “space show” wherein three-dimensional laser projections will be beamed all over the planet. These will take the shape of whatever deity is most predominant, and will speak in all languages. At the end of the light show, the gods will all merge into one god, the Antichrist. Apparently people will think this is their god, rather than the more natural twenty-first century assumption that it is a particularly opaque Coca Cola advertisement.

    The light show can supposedly be seen in occasional tests, which manifest as unidentified flying objects. Some of the True Believers in the project cite existing display technology such as 3D projection mapping as foreshadowing the great light show in the sky.”

    21Sped LOLOL!

    Heart

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  26. #26 the honeybee
    May 28, 2011 pm31 5:35 am

    That video feels like CGI to me too, mainly because it looks like a space ship people would build (full of screws, rivets and bolts), not the glowy type bioships I feel they really use. If you click on comments below it, it takes you to youtube where there is a translation in the comments.

    LauraTyco, thanks for answering my question last thread about your cat, that is amazing and I can’t wait until the day I can do that.

    Kellia: I had a feeling you were going to say you had been there and done that, and I certainly understand how all of your experiences could lead you to where you are feeling today. I too never liked the system, and have had my share of abusive bosses who illegally refuse to pay overtime when I worked a 54 hour week, and landlords who illegally steal hundreds of dollars not returning deposits. I wish I knew what it would take to get us there, a revolution and anger or what. It happened in the middle east, maybe it’ll happen here yet.

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  27. #27 LauraTyco
    May 28, 2011 pm31 6:37 am

    Thanks to all for input in the “spaceship” I fully agree!

    Heart Ads: thank you for Dr. Rosin’s video! I love her!!

    Heart let us know when you can hear you feline! Smile

    Heart Sped: Nice car you must have!! lol I put a link to your music, but i don’t like the photo. Send me a google image of a pic you like me to put up.

    Heart Azzey: added a link too for your son’s blog! Really nicely done! Thanks Smile

    Heart Dreamwalker: nice info on Urantia and project Bluebook! Yes

    Heart Laurinda: Hope your heart is doing well today dear sister!! Heart

    Busy day! talk tonight or later!

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  28. #28 Laurinda
    May 28, 2011 pm31 6:46 am

    #25: “Compassion is love in action” ah, beautiful words to live by!!! Now THAT would be a lovely bumper sticker and a great reminder for folks!!! Heart Rose Heart

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  29. #29 Willow
    May 28, 2011 pm31 7:59 am

    Good Grief..last night on National Geo. they showed a program called When Aliens Attack. all about what might
    happen if Alien ships show up and how in the end we will win after about ten years and those who our young women have to have as many babies as possible. We will send men tied to Helium balloons up the their ship with atomic bombs strapped to their bodies. They are going to float through
    the bottom door (which yeah they are going to leave open) and blow themselves and the ship up. lol. Then same night on a chanel they call The Green Channel, They explained that everyone who thinks they have had some sort of contact with little grey men are crazy and delusional. Didn’t quite figure out which I am. But thanks goodness The Government Has A Plan! lololololol

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  30. #30 Laurinda
    May 28, 2011 pm31 8:11 am

    National Geo—WHO FUNDS THEM????

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  31. #31 Steffie
    May 28, 2011 pm31 8:49 am

    This is a very beautiful poem, which may resonate with some of you. The call of Africa is well known and, for those of us born on this continent, regardless of skin colour or heritage, it is a powerful thing. Africa does not let her people go…

    White skin and an African Soul
    Author unknown

    Within my soul, within my mind,
    There lies a place I cannot find.
    Home of my heart. Land of my birth.

    Smoke-coloured stone
    and flame-coloured earth
    Electric skies. Shivering heat.
    Blood red clay beneath my feet.
    At night when finally alone,
    I close my eyes and I am home.
    I kneel and touch the blood warm sand
    And feel the pulse beneath my hand
    Of an ancient life too old to name,
    In an ancient land too wild to tame.

    How can I show you what I feel?
    How can I make this essence real?
    I search for words in dumb frustration
    To try and form some explanation,
    But how can heart and soul be caught
    In one-dimensional written thought?

    If love and longing are a “fire”
    And man “consumed” by his desire,
    Then this love is no simple flame
    That mortal thought can hold or tame.
    As deep within the earth’s own core
    The love of home burns evermore.
    But what is home? I hear them say,
    This never was yours anyway.
    You have no birthright to this place,
    Descendant from another race.
    An immigrant? A pioneer?
    You are no longer welcome here.

    Whoever said that love made sense?
    I “love” is an “imperfect” tense.
    To love in vain has been man’s fate
    From history to present date.
    I have no grounds for dispensation,
    I know I have no home or nation.
    For just one moment in the night
    I am complete, my soul takes flight.
    For just one moment… Then it’s gone
    And I am once again undone.
    Never complete. Never whole.
    White skin and an African soul.

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  32. #32 LauraTyco
    May 28, 2011 pm31 11:23 am

    Well, turns out the Peruvian thing is a hoax. I got an email from an online Spanish magazine translated by a friends saying it was a Hoax.

    As to National Geographic, my boyfriend has seen another episode of the same series last night and said that Michio Kaku said on that program that aliens would very likely attack us. and that we should be prepared. I had to talk to him, and he was totally panicked, he does not even usually believes in extra-terrestrials being able to visit us. Well he was so afraid after that terrible show that it took me one hour and read SaLuSa messages for him to calm him down Cool Big Frown

    Thanks God SaLuSa gave a warning about the fake alien attack on wednesday message. I feel there will be more and more of this coming our way.

    I hope we can work out a counter attack plan, it is not going to be pretty when the actual fake invasion happens. So much dis-information, fear, doubts in humans’ minds.
    Heart Heart Heart

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  33. #33 LauraTyco
    May 28, 2011 pm31 11:29 am

    An Episode in the Soul’s Journey

    By John Van Mater, Jr.

    A sapling in the garden was given a lot of nurturing. It grew well and soon was nearly four feet high. Then one day during a gale huge branches from a nearby tree fell on it, snapping the little trunk at its base. It appeared to have died. What a terrible consequence after such care! Yet, next spring the young tree sent up new and vigorous shoots — after all had seemed lost. It grew and again reached, even surpassed, its former height and fullness. What strength and vitality and will must have resided unseen in those roots for it to regenerate itself!
    A year later another storm broke off additional branches from the young tree’s unfortunate neighbor, sending them crashing down. Again the situation seemed hopeless, for the sapling’s trunk lay pushed nearly flat, and on one side its branches were cleaved off. Upon examining it, however, I discovered that the trunk was not broken, only bent, and when I had cut away the heavy limbs oppressing it, it began to spring up straight once more. It was as if a new little tree had been reborn from its former self, tougher and more resilient as a result of these adverse experiences. Though seemingly ruthless and cruel, nature had tested its very essence, or soul, and then allowed it to continue to grow into a fine tree.
    If this be true of trees, what of ourselves?
    *****
    A tragedy occurred to an acquaintance. He was in a motorcycle accident that left him paralyzed from the neck down, on a respirator for an indefinite period, but fully conscious. We are impelled to ask, why should it have ever happened? Yet in the hospital such events are not exceptional; the intensive care units are filled with similar cases. Of course it hits you harder when you know someone in such a plight. In many cases such accidents result from negligence, or abuse of drugs, alcohol, or some other traceable cause. But often, too, there is no apparent reason, just a horrible, senseless accident.
    I find great comfort in a recognition of the immortal aspect of man, in a philosophy that takes account of his spiritual nature, the true Self; also, that all of us are part of the universal harmony and that nothing is fortuitous or blind. Such a philosophy brings to an incident like this a larger and deeper significance, not to mention the promise of a compassionate resolution.
    To recognize that the universe is a living entity with its divine essence in all things, helps me to consider its working to be just and wise, enabling the human soul, through spiritual influences, to outgrow its limitations. Everyone must work out his own karma, most of which would have been generated in the course of many other lives in addition to this one. We are all interconnected, so that each of us is not only responsible for his own character but how it affects others.
    It becomes evident that innumerable courses are followed and habits formed as a result of expressing or bringing forth both the finest attributes of soul and the selfish side with its failings. We must certainly have a mixture of the two as a product of this duality. Would it not stand to reason that if one abused himself and slipped under the influence of the lesser side, disregarding conscience or any of the nobler impulses, harm would result both to himself and others? Also, the more ingrained these thought habits become, the stronger the effects.
    What of the new causes that result from such choices, particularly when one knows something of what is right and wrong? Might not these causes — set in motion by misdirected use of will and mind emerge with compelling force in the field of action, if not in the same life, then in a subsequent one? At the same time the spirit-self is seeking every opportunity to urge the soul back into balance, so that later on the individual may recover and change for the better.
    It can only be an advantage for the one undergoing the trauma and suffering to awaken and come closer to his spirit and thus gain strength from his own inner resources. This is just one possibility that might result. The greatest tragedy is the unexamined life, lived unaware, filled with selfish thought and desire, where little in the way of spiritual growth can be achieved. In the eyes of nature this would be worse than an event which leaves the body useless, or cuts the life short, yet enables the soul to work out or dissolve certain holds of the lesser self, thus removing an impediment to progress. In this way one can certainly reap greater rewards in the next or some future life.
    Even if the body is broken down with little or no chance of recovery, as long as the soul remains unconquered and full of inner resolve there is always hope and new opportunity. Whenever we reach into the heart of ourselves to become more altruistic in thought and act, and love of all dominates our motive, we weaken the hold of matter and become more inwardly alive, more human. It is of great importance to view the whole person, particularly the enduring qualities within, and not be misled by outer appearances. Though perhaps obscured for a time through a tragic episode in the soul’s journey, the deathless Self endures.
    (From Sunrise magazine, April/May 1985. Copyright © 1985 by Theosophical University Press.)

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  34. #34 LauraTyco
    May 28, 2011 pm31 11:33 am

    May 27, 2011
    Avoiding Negative Vibrations
    Taking on the Energy of Others
    In order to protect ourselves from taking on any negative energy from other people or situations; we can learn to shield.

    There are times when you may find that being around certain individuals or groups of people leaves you with feelings of discomfort. It may be that spending time with a particular friend feels draining or that dealing with a specific coworker exhausts you. Being around toxic or angry people is also draining. And you may even find that being surrounded by a crowd of people lowers your energy levels rather than perks you up.

    This is not that unusual. Each of us radiates energy and is capable of being influenced by the energy of other people. It is important to learn how to shield yourself, so you don’t unknowingly take on someone else’s energy. While some people know how to instinctively protect themselves from being adversely affected by energy, most of us need to discover and practice the technique that works best.

    There are a number of ways to avoid being affected by people’s energy. Shielding is one preventative technique you can use. Center yourself and envision being enveloped in a cocoon of loving and protective light. This protective layer should allow you to consciously regulate the energy around you. The intent to shield oneself is all you need for this technique to work.

    You can even create a trigger word to assist you in quickly creating a shield. Say this word each time you create a new shield, until the word and the shield become automatically associated in your mind. If you run into a person whose energy you find draining, you may want to cleanse your own energy field after your encounter. Sage, cold showers, singing, mineral water baths, spending time in nature, and a simple break to recharge are all ways to accomplish this.

    While it is important to know how to shield yourself from energy, there are those energies that you may not want to shut out. The energy of laughter from a newborn baby, the feeling of joy radiating from someone in love, and the frequency of calm emanating from an enlightened teacher are just some of the energies coming from others that you may want to have around you.

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  35. #35 LauraTyco
    May 28, 2011 pm31 11:42 am

    Inelia Benz: The Global Elite – What Can YOU Do?

    The Global Elite – What can YOU do?
    Inelia Benz, Ascension 101, September 2011

    http://ascension101.com/ascension-information/31-september-2010.html

    The Global Elite, also known as the Illuminati, or nowadays as the Bilderbergs, are simply a group of people who realized what the true nature of our Universe was, eliminated every one else who knew this information, and used the information to harness the power (chi, ability to do) of the uninformed masses.

    (picture of Mapuche Native American woman being arrested in the South of Chile at a peaceful demonstration.)

    Their methodology is very mechanical in nature. They use sacred geometry, power points on the Earth, as well as mind control via the media and chemicals. Plus a continuing elimination of those individuals as well as native people and cultures who hold the sacred knowledge of creation.

    Their bread and butter is FEAR.

    Their knowledge has been passed down from generation to generation both by families as well as infiltrated groups, such as the Freemasons.

    They, in turn, are controlled by Darkness. Darkness came into this universe several thousand years ago from another universe which is Dark configured.

    The difference between a Dark universe and a Light universe (which this one is), is basically that the main “emotional/creative” energy in a Dark universe is FEAR and the basic “emotional/creative” energy in a Light universe is LOVE.

    There is plenty of documented and experiential evidence to support the above paragraph. To begin with, most cultures in the world will have an “origin” story where the Earth was a paradise devoid of suffering, fear and death, and then “fell” due to something that humans did. With regard to experiential evidence, ask anyone who has experienced Enlightenment or Oneness and he or she will tell you that it felt like BLISS, LOVE, ECSTASY. These higher states of consciousness are a merging with the Essence of this Universe… and guess what… no FEAR or SUFFERING in sight!

    The Elite are presently working very hard at cultivating FEAR among the masses. They do this by staging, or broadcasting, natural or man made disasters, wars and pestilence around the world at regular intervals. FEAR keeps people ASLEEP. Someone who is ASLEEP has no FREE WILL. They are enslaved. FREE WILL is one of the fundamental laws of this universe. The Elite have broken that law by taking away the FREE WILL of billions of living beings in this planet.

    They also use music and media to harness the focus of the young toward sex, drugs, violence and rock and roll.

    They are also creating a FEAR OF LACK by making us believe that “oil and water are running out” and by polluting key areas of the world and broadcasting a belief that the entire world is polluted and overpopulated, when in fact, most of the world is clean, unpolluted, unpopulated and untouched by man. The CO2 pollution control is a SCAM to control the fuel sources of the world.

    So, now that you know a few of the things these people are doing, what can you do?

    Firstly, you can create a FEAR FREE ZONE around you. This means a conscious effort to process fear as soon as it pops into your body/mind/aura.

    Click here for the fear processing exercise I use myself.

    Also calling for your guides/angels to create a sanctuary of LOVE vibration in your home and workplace.

    Focus on a topic that is close to your heart, could be anything that creates Fear or Despair in the world and send it unconditional love, or beautiful liquid light. If the situation creates a strong negative emotion in you, then process it within yourself first, then do the outer work.

    When you see pictures of the Global Elite, you can google Bilderberg members in the news or media, or the internet, focus on them and tell them, “your time is up, all your darkness leaves this universe now”, with love and compassion.

    RETAKE power points in your area. Visit groves, parks, rocks, cathedrals, and known energy points in your area, and simply call upon the Divine Mother to retake that point. Call upon angles and fifth-dimensional light beings to guard it and keep it free, clean and secure. Your intent is all that is needed to do this. It does not matter whether you believe in the Divine Mother with that particular name, or in Angels or other dimensional beings. What matters is your intent to retake the point of energy back for the Earth and Humanity.

    Please email and distribute this article to as many people as you can. You can also re-post it and link to: http://www.ascension101.com

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  36. #36 Admiral2012here
    May 28, 2011 pm31 12:04 pm

    …a “Message” from the Galactic Federation (May 22)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL3l74M4V4Q

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  37. #37 Kellia
    May 28, 2011 pm31 12:48 pm

    Dreamwalker # 17

    “A step that you didn’t mention is embracing the dark. What would that look like to you?”

    How would you define embracing the dark?

    “I wish i could just tell you to cut it out so you’ll have a better life, but I know you won’t listen!”

    Cut what out and how?

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  38. #38 Kellia
    May 28, 2011 pm31 12:59 pm

    Laura Tyco #35

    The Illuminati are able to exploit the one great vulnerability we all share — the needs of the human body. Even the most ascetic persons need some level of food, clothing, shelter and occasional health care. By building a system where your access to the resources that can fulfill these needs is rationed and controlled by money, the Illuminati can create fear by denying people access to money (via jobs and credit) with which they can buy what fulfills their needs. In other words, the Illuminati put us in fear for our survival and thereby get what they want.

    We could end this by abolishing the concepts of money and working “for a living”, leaving people free to survive and work as and when they choose for what they or their community want and need. But the idea of having to pay your way is so ingrained in us, both through religious and secular ideas that most people are either scandalized by the idea of free goods, or think it is just a Utopian dream.

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  39. #39 dreamwalker
    May 28, 2011 pm31 3:15 pm

    @Kellia – I’ve been thinking about Selphia’s message to you a lot. Why would she tell you things that obviously go “against the grain?” Now that I’m more familiar with her “style” I feel she did this on purpose. She does this to say “hey, there’s something here you need to look at.”

    I applaud what you’re doing, but maybe it’s worth looking at the feelings you have for the things you oppose. Is it an appreciation for how they could be different, or is it hatred for everything they stand for?

    Please don’t take this as an attack on your values – I respect your contributions here a lot. I’m just trying to understand that wacky message better!

    If you feel you’ve already made your peace with this, forget I said anything. Smile

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  40. #40 dreamwalker
    May 28, 2011 pm31 4:29 pm

    Being Alone: Why Mastery Involves Times of Solitude

    A message from Metatron channeled by Tyberonn
    Monday, 11 April, 2011 (posted 13 April, 2011)

    http://spiritlibrary.com/earth-keeper/earth-keeper-chronicles/being-alone-why-mastery-involves-times-of-solitude

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  41. #41 LauraTyco
    May 28, 2011 pm31 4:49 pm

    written: 18 July 2002
    Last Revised: 31 December 2005

    “Worshipper of the Sun”
    It seems to me quite a common view of Amenhotep, later Pharaoh Akhenaten, that he was a “worshipper of the sun.” The notion seems to have arisen because he performed a worship of the Sun in the morning. But surely he was not a simple sun worshipper. Surely something much deeper was intended by his words and deeds, something that may have escaped us.

    National Geographic quotes him as saying:

    Oh living Aten, who initiates life…. Oh, sole god, without another beside him! You create the Earth according to your wish…. You are in my heart, and there is none who knows you except your son. (1)

    It is said that he spoke these words as the Sun rose. But was he a worshipper of the outer, physical Sun or the inner, spiritual Sun, that is ultimately God?

    Oh living Aten, who initiates life.

    Who initiated life? Ultimately, God the Father did. Do not the Upanishads, which predate Akhenaten, say that “the whole universe came forth from [God] and moves in [God]“? (2)

    Oh, sole god, without another beside him!

    Who is the sole god, without another beside him? The Heavenly Father is One without a second, is He not? Is there any difference between what Akhenaten said and what Isaiah said? “I am God, and there is none else.” (3) Or Sri Shankara: “[God] alone is real. There is none but He.” (4) Surely what Akhenaten is saying is that only God exists; there are not two, but only One. “Hear, Oh Israel, the Lord thy God. The Lord is One.”

    You create the Earth according to your wish.

    Did He not create the Earth (and the heavens) according to His wish? Observes Solomon: “The Lord … hath founded the earth.” (5) Says Shankara: “[God] is the cause of the evolution of the universe, its preservation and its dissolution.” (6)

    You are in my heart.

    Does He not reside in the heart of each being as the Immortal Self? Sri Krishna declares: “The Lord lives in the heart of every creature.” (7) Or the Upanishads: “The Supreme Person, … the Innermost Self, dwells forever in the heart of all beings.”(8)

    There is none who knows you except your son.

    Where is the difference between saying that “there is none who knows you except your son” and saying, with Jesus, “no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son.” (9) This same Son, this Christ, this Pearl of great price and treasure buried in a field — is not this the immortal Self, the Son of God?

    Akhetaten….

    When Akhenaten says, “I shall make [the royal city of] Akhetaten for the Aten, my father, in this place,” is he referring to his earthly father or to his Heavenly Father, whom he revered?

    The rising of the Sun….
    I do not believe that Akhenaten worshipped the physical star we call the “Sun.” However, if you look at the Sun, it exactly resembles, I am told, the sight of the Self in enlightenment. It is the most obvious symbol for the experience of enlightenment of all symbols that I can think of. It itself is no appropriate thing to worship; it is a metaphor for the Self, the Prince of Peace, the Atman.

    Other sages who worshipped the “sun”
    Here are other examples of enlightened sages using the sun as a teaching device, as, in my opinion, Akhenaten did. They also are not “sun worshippers.”

    When we hear Sri Ramakrishna, let us recall that he was talking to a circle of very precocious spiritual aspirants, unlike Akhenaten who was probably talking to people around him who understood little of what he was saying. Probably unlike Akhenaten, Sri Ramakrishna was an avatar, who descended with what he called his “merry band” of special souls.

    Paramahansa Ramakrishna

    As long as you live inside the house of maya, as long as there exists the cloud of maya, you do not see the effect of the Sun of Knowledge. Come outside the house of maya, … and then the Sun of Knowledge will destroy ignorance. (11)

    Bodhidharma

    In the body of mortals is the indestructible buddha-nature. Like the sun, its light fills endless space. But once veiled by the dark clouds of the five shades [the five shades refers to the five bodily coverings of a mortal], it’s like a light inside a jar, hidden from view. (10)

    Sri Krishna

    When the light of the Atman
    Drives out our darkness
    That light shines forth from us,
    A sun in splendour,
    The revealed Brahman. (12)

    The Upanishads

    As the sun, revealer of all objects to the seer, is not harmed by the sinful eye, nor by the impurities of the objects it gazes on, so the one Self, dwelling in all, is not touched by the evils of the world. For he transcends all. (13)

    Yung-chia Ta-shih

    The Inner Light … knows no boundaries,
    Yet it is ever here, within us,
    Ever retaining its serenity and fulness. (14)

    There is a unity among the sayings of these enlightened sages. Are they not all describing, in different words, the same one Reality, a Reality known perhaps to Akhenaten?

    I suggest that the inner Sun, the Buddha-nature, Brahman, the Supreme Self is what Akhenaten knew, just as Bodhidharma knew it, Pseudo-Dionysius, Plotinus, Apollonius of Tyana, St. Augustine, St. John of the Cross, etc. It is hidden from most men; it is seen in the experience of enlightenment.

    Enlightenment and the Trinity of Levels
    Akhenaten’s statements in his poem to the Sun are those we might hear from any enlightened sage we may investigate. Yes, of course, only he could communicate with the Aten. Only an enlightened individual can “know” God. Another name for “enlightenment” is “God-realization.” Those who are enlightened KNOW God.

    I define enlightenment as an event in which we perceive, in a sudden discontinuity of knowledge, a spiritual reality beyond this material dimension. It could be a glimpse of one of three realities, which Christians call the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, and Hindus Brahman, Atman, and Shakti.

    Rearranging this order and using generic terms, it could be a glimpse of the Child of God (the Son, the Atman), God the Mother (Holy Spirit, Shakti), or God the Father (the Father, Brahman). These three levels have been called the Transcendent (Father), the Phenomenal (Mother), and the Transcendent in the Phenomenal (Child). (15) Enlightenment could also be of a level of Reality beyond these three.

    Enlightenment opens up communication with what Hindus call (interestingly, given Akhenaten’s use of the term Aten) the Atman, which Jesus called the Prince of peace, the Pearl of great price, the treasure buried in the field (of the body), the mustard seed, and the leaven that leavened the whole loaf.

    Having seen the Light of the Christ or Atman, we put aside all desires for anything else than to fully experience it and find that meditating on it (or pursuing some other spiritual practice) makes that discrete point of brilliant light (the Child) turn into a light that suffuses all creation (the Mother) and thence to a light that utterly transcends creation (the Father). We have found the treasure buried in the field. We have sold all that we owned and have bought field and treasure.

    Does any enlightened master, apart from Jesus, support this conjecture that knowing the Christ or inner sun leads to knowledge of the Father or transcendent sun? Here is medieval mystic Jan Ruusbroec on the subject:

    In the abyss of this darkness in which the loving spirit has died to itself, God’s revelation and eternal life have their origin, for in this darkness an incomprehensible light is born and shines forth; this is the Son of God, in whom a person becomes able to see and to contemplate eternal life.It is Christ, the light of truth, who says, “See,” and it is through him that we are able to see,for he is the light of the Father, without which there is no light in heaven or on earth. (16) [Emphasis added.]

    Zoroaster called the inner sun “Fire the Son of God.” (17) Look at the misunderstanding which surrounds him. A scholar as wise as Sir Leonard Wooley can say, misunderstanding Zoroaster’s description as many Egyptians probably did Akhenaten’s, that Zoroaster worshipped “embodied fire.” (18) “Fire the Son of God” is not different from the inner sun that Akhenaten may have seen.

    Here are other examples of the use of a fire metaphor to describe the inner sun, Christ, or Atman. Biblical prophets called it a “firebrand plucked from the burning” (19) and “the fire … ever … burning upon the altar” [of the heart]. (20) Modern masters have called it the “divine spark buried deep in every soul.” (21) Krishnamurti called it “the Star.” His description of his enlightenment is very compelling. Perhaps it may have happened to Akhenaten the same way.
    I sat crosslegged in the meditation posture. When I had sat thus for some time, I felt myself going out of my body. I saw myself [with the inner eye] sitting down with the delicate tender leaves of the tree over me. I was facing the east. In front of me was my body and over my head I saw the Star, bright and clear. … There was such profound calmness both in the air and within myself, the calmness of the bottom of a deep and unfathomable lake. Like the lake, I felt my physical body, with its mind and emotions, could be ruffled on the surface but nothing, nay nothing, could disturb the calmness of my soul. … I was supremely happy, for I had seen. Nothing could ever be the same. I have drunk at the clear and pure waters at the source of the fountain of life and my thirst was appeased. Never more could I be thirsty, never more could I be in utter darkness; I have seen the Light. I have touched compassion which heals all sorrow and suffering…. Love in all its glory has intoxicated my heart; my heart can never be closed. I have drunk at the fountain of Joy and eternal Beauty. I am God-intoxicated. (22)

    It is this “incomprehensible light” which Akhenaten attempts to make known to Egyptians who do not know it. This light of the sun, seen in the first experience of enlightenment, opens up and becomes a transcendent light, in a further, more tranformative experience of the Father. The Son proves to be the truth, the way, and the life – the doorway to the Father, with which it is one.

    I have said that all enlightened sages know the same thing. Let me end with a quote from Sri Yukteswar Giri, on the unity of religions.
    There is an essential unity in all religions; … there is no difference in the truths inculcated by the various faiths; … there is but one method by which the world, external and internal, has evolved; and … there is but one Goal admitted by all scriptures. (23)

    Summary
    To summarize, I submit that Pharoah Akhenaten was an enlightened man, who had knowledge of the Heavenly Father through mystical insight, as did all the world’s saints and sages. He had this experience, as they all did, when the Inner sun of the Self arose, not on the earthly horizon, but on the inner horizon of the heart. That first mystical vision led him eventually to Aten, the Father. The religion that he initiated, which was overthrown after his death, was the worship of the same Heavenly Father that all mystics and masters through eternity have reverenced.

    Seeing him in this way eliminates the difficulties inherent in casting him as a mere worshipper of the Sun and restores to him his true accomplishment: he fulfilled the purpose of life — to realize God. That his contemporaries did not give him his due is unfortunate. But, with the benefit of thousands of years of spiritual learning, we have the opportunity to set that unfortunate circumstance straight and give Akhenaten his true place in history, along with such other enlightened mystics as Solomon, Socrates, Jesus, and Buddha.

    http://stevebeckow.com/spiritual-essays/akhenaten-worshipper-sun-surely/

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  42. #42 LauraTyco
    May 28, 2011 pm31 4:52 pm

    Kellia: well put, as always dear ~ Heart

    Dreamwalker: Love Metatron ~ Heart

    Ads: I loove that message you put up today ~ Heart

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  43. #43 Kellia
    May 28, 2011 pm31 6:41 pm

    Dreamwalker #39

    It is both. I believe there is a place in this world for anger and hate, channelled correctly they are motivators for some people and actions. Duality is the name of the game on this planetand so there is a place for those so called negative emotions. Think all people who fought Hitler did so all out of love and light? I think a lot of people hated him and the things he did.

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  44. #44 dreamwalker
    May 28, 2011 pm31 7:28 pm

    #43 There you are! Khali Ma Shakti De!

    Well said. But a lot of people thought they loved Hitler too. Why? Because they saw the Jewish people as their overlords, and him as their liberator.

    “Freedom”

    When you use fear, anger, and hate it means your enemy is controlling you. So you have already lost any fight you may undertake.

    To love your enemy is to see the fight in a way that will defeat him without bloodshed. This might involve trickery so he sees your point of view.

    This might involve becoming him for a time, to see what he sees.

    This might involve overcoming him through popular opinion, so he is the only man left standing with those convictions.

    It involves courage, cunning, and creativity, all characteristics you have in spades.

    Khali ma shakti de Yin Yang

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  45. #45 dreamwalker
    May 28, 2011 pm31 7:32 pm

    #41 Laura that was awesome!

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  46. #46 dreamwalker
    May 28, 2011 pm31 7:46 pm

    @Kellia, you see the problem is that here we are again. When you wanted to borrow money in Europe, back then, you went to “The Jew”. And interest was low, and yet the upper classes still borrowed their way into heavy debt to maintain their lifestyle. To maintain appearances.

    And here we are again, It has come full circle. Different players, but the rules are the same. This time, it is everyone but the upper classes who borrow to maintain their lifestyle. And then they become slaves. And they feel alone, not realizing it is indeed a large army of souls in the same situation. Divide and conquer.

    And as you know it is not the dynamic of maintaining appearances so much as maintaining necessities. Maintaining a lifestyle in order to survive. All for them, none for you. How did they do this? Fear of socialism. As long as you fear the thing that can liberate you, you are lost.

    This is just one example.

    Khali ma shakti de.

    All My Relations Thunder Heart Sun

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  47. #47 Stick
    May 28, 2011 pm31 8:17 pm

    Alrighty then…

    **OUR GLORIOUS SHIFT IN TIME**
    Channeler: Crystalai May 28 2011

    The most glorious time that has ever been known on heaven and earth will happen within the next six months. One day very soon you will see nothing but a great plane of light from horizon to horizon. There will be no darkness on this plane for 12 days and nights. The stars and the sun will seem to become invisible. There will be a light in the sky that is greater than all of the suns and stars. The principle of light that will come will light the void. The war of light will be fought using the light bands- the frequencies of thought. That light from the Consciousness of YAWEE, who manifests the pure light of Freedom and the light from the Consciousness of ID, who manifests the pure light of Peace will combine with all of the light that is manifest from our starry brothers who are here to love and protect us. The war of light will remove Jehova – the Consciousness who manifests Fear, Control, War and Judgement- from our plane forever.

    We will be caught up in awe of Utopia. We will gaze into the heavens and see the blazes of light. Many will think that our sun has burnt out because it won’t be seen. What we will be seeing are the great ships of the Thirteen Great White Brotherhood. The ships will be made of the light of their Frequency Bands of Consciousness. These will be their Merkaba Bodies of Light and Sound as large as the Universe. Their light comes from Thought through the Mind of God within them.

    We will glare into the heavens in idiodic wonderment at the light that surrounds us for days. We will be protected and loved and the last war to remove Jehova from our Solar System will be won by YAWEE and Id.

    And we will have gone into a NEW TIME. That is how we will be saved. We will slide seamlessly into a NEW TIME. That doesn’t mean we will go anywhere. All times exist in the Now. Our Consciousness will shift into a higher dimension where our Souls will turn from their Involution to their Evolution. We will have a Rainbow Bridge formed from our Soul- in our Fourth Chakra area- that connects us into our Fifth Dimensional Mind. The all knowing Soul, the imagination of the thymus gland, the immortality of the heartbeat will all become manifest realities. Our vision will shift to allow us to see in Infra Red as our digital cameras do.

    This will be the NEW TIME when we will contemplate UTOPIA – the Divine of Man in the marvels of thought and light. It will be the beginning of the new time when Tyrants no longer rule the Earth.

    That event will happen sometime in October or November of this year.

    The events in the sky will be what is needed to cause the consciousness of our governments to become more afraid of that which is outside of our selves than of that which is inside of our selves. This will cause all governments to unify and stand together. The minds will begin to shift into a new way of balance and harmony.

    In 2012 most nations will have already shifted into the reality of using energy created by the sun, water and air. The problems of nuclear energy will be removed before the Solar Flares in December of 2012.

    By the first month in 2013 our consciousness will have fully shifted into the 12 DNA template of Christ Consciousness. From that time on, all we have to do is learn how to use the Mind of God within us to Co-Create our new realities. We will begin to learn instant manifestation. We will learn how to manifest into all dimensional realities. By 2040, this planet Earth will be returned to her Divine Reality that she knew as TERRA.

    http://youtu.be/1-YJA3UJRaQ
    ~AscensionTime2011————————- Star Sun Star

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  48. #48 babajij
    May 28, 2011 pm31 8:55 pm

    …service 2 Others… Sun Sun Sun Sun Sun Sun Sun Sun Sun Sun Sun Sun

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  49. #49 Kellia
    May 29, 2011 pm31 12:08 am

    Dreamwalker

    I am not afraid of socialism. In fact I advocate something that is beyond socialism because socialism also uses money. But I am stuck in a society that does fear socialism. And if you ask them to define it they will tell you something very much different from what socialism really is, because they have been programmed that way. They think socialism means that everybody will have to be the same, but in someway that they don’t personally want.

    But this brings up another question. How does the individual, or the minority group, express its free will contra to the will of the majority without using physical, emotional or economic violence when all around them is pressure to think and do otherwise than their will?

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  50. #50 Stick
    May 29, 2011 pm31 1:20 am

    *The fact that the end is coming into view is exhilarating*
    05/29/2011 by John Smallman

    As you are well aware, there is a considerable amount of turmoil occurring on Planet Earth at present, and many of you are becoming very distressed about it. It is leading up to the moment of your awakening, to which the vast majority of you on the planet are – at a deep level below your dream-time limited-awareness – looking forward with glee. You have spent a long time on your homeward journey, and the fact that the end is coming into view is exhilarating. Yet because this wonderful knowledge is so deeply buried, the turmoil all around you is most unsettling because it seems so real. As I said recently, make a point of seeking out the good news – there is a lot of it out there – and share it with friends and loved ones. It will raise your spirits because it will be reminding you of the divine master-plan whose present stage is shortly to bear fruit, as you awaken.

    You have all been working tirelessly for eons to reach this point of momentous change, and your joy and amazement when it comes to pass will be phenomenal. If it were possible to give you even a brief glimpse of what you are to experience when you awaken, then all your doubts and anxieties would evaporate. A few of you have had brief “peak experiences” and others have had “near-death experiences,” which have shown very clearly that you are dearly loved and that there is nothing to fear because life does not cease when you lay down your earthly bodies; it expands to offer limitless opportunities for your constant delight. And because of those uplifting glimpses of Reality, and the consequent ability to understand, to a certain extent, the meaning of their earthly lives, they are able to accept life precisely as it unfolds for them, knowing without any doubt whatever that they are always exactly where they intended to be for the lessons they need and wish to learn. Others are drawn to the peaceful and loving energy these ones share and extend, enjoying the sense of complete acceptance they offer.

    Still others have read about peak and near-death experiences, and have been inspired and uplifted by what they read as they resonate strongly with what is described. There is so much information available in books, movies, and on the web, that those seeking evidence that there is a far, far better form of existence beyond the illusory reality should have no difficulty in accessing it. In fact, many are doing just that, and the intent to find that information naturally brings it to them, almost serendipitously, as books in a book shop catch their attention, or as books, movies, or web sites are mentioned to them by someone they just happened to talk to in a chance encounter. Once you start seeking with intent you are effectively asking for guidance and direction, and so it will be lovingly given to you, frequently without any awareness on your part occurring until, perhaps, as you read a book or investigate a web site, you wonder to yourself, “What brought me here?”

    So, as you wait expectantly for this great event, remind yourselves, whenever you find yourselves in a state of doubt or anxiety, that all is following the divine plan perfectly, and recall your own experiences which, until you once again allowed doubt to exert undue influence on you, gave you the peace and the confidence to know that you are each beloved children of God, forever safe in His divine Embrace. ~With so very much love, Saul.

    http://youtu.be/qvA_bF_9tLk
    ~InTheLight555———————– Yin Yang Peace Star

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  51. #51 Steffie
    May 29, 2011 pm31 5:28 am

    Strange… Kellia, on the subject of money, these have just come through in my email. Food for thought? Heart

    “What is [the role of money] in the search for meaning? Is our relationship to it one of the chief factors that keeps us in our prison, or could it also be a tool for breaking out, for awakening to a life filled with intensity of purpose?” — Jacob Needleman

    “Money is not required to buy one necessity of the soul.” — Henry David Thoreau

    “View money and things not as something you create to fill a lack, but as tools to help you more fully express yourself and realize your potential.” — Sanaya Roman and Duane Packer

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  52. #52 LauraTyco
    May 29, 2011 pm31 5:54 am

    Good morning all!
    Dunno has this been posted here before:
    World Revolution Not Seen on TV- Rallies Around the World- Please Repost

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS91BaRaqZw&feature=player_embedded

    In any case, it is well worth a rewatch!! Heart Heart Heart

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  53. #53 jeff
    May 29, 2011 pm31 6:09 am

    Stick!!! loved #47 & 50……Thank you for your positive!!!

    Irie

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  54. #54 Laurinda
    May 29, 2011 pm31 6:38 am

    Good morning Braveheart Clan! I would just like to remind you that money is energy—its all how you hold it in your consciousness—and use it in a 3D world—its just another tool—-money in and of itself,(like gold or silver) is NOT evil. In fact, I think money is one of your greatest and most powerful “teachers” here. It is the activator for the earthly lesson of “lack” and poverty consciousness. Many souls grapple with this lesson. It is through great suffering that many finally break free of this intense lesson, and find abundance in new ways. They also learn to see their greatness not in how much they possess in a bank account and earthly possessions. Oh yes, money is a great soul tester indeed! Thunder Rainbow

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  55. #55 Bill
    May 29, 2011 pm31 6:41 am

    Here is a (long) link to a very well written article on Yahoo about how the political/corporate elite takes advantage of America’s love for it soldiers to wage their never-ending so called “War on Terror”.

    How America Screws Its Soldiers

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailybeast/20110529/ts_dailybeast/14378_memorialdayhowamericascrewsitssoldiers;_ylt=AqazSCx0uvWWxWfCROumpJdH2ocA;_ylu=X3oDMTRic2lkYzlhBGFzc2V0A2RhaWx5YmVhc3QvMjAxMTA1MjkvMTQzNzhfbWVtb3JpYWxkYXlob3dhbWVyaWNhc2NyZXdzaXRzc29sZGllcnMEY2NvZGUDZ21wdG9wMjAwcG9vbARjcG9zAzcEcG9zAzcEc2VjA3luX3RvcF9zdG9yaWVzBHNsawNob3dhbWVyaWNhc2M-

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  56. #56 the honeybee
    May 29, 2011 pm31 7:02 am

    Morning everyone!

    Steffie: You asked about this video in the last thread: My Mum Talks to Aliens
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvJ2ztwC3gY

    I don’t know if you meant you couldn’t watch it at all or if you were at work or something and just couldn’t watch it then – but anyway, it was good, and also kind of sad (in the part where Mary Rodwell was giving a talk about ETs and getting laughed at by the usual “denial and ridicule” of arrogant people). The DNA part was from a person she talked to who woke up with ETs in his bedroom, he found hairs embedded in his skin and had them checked for dna and got back the blurb you posted. He also took a polygraph and passed it. It was a good show.

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  57. #57 Bill
    May 29, 2011 pm31 7:03 am

    One comment I have about the link that I just posted. Soldiers coming home from Vietnam being spat upon by protesters was NOT an urban legend, as the author claims. My own company commander in boot camp told us how he was spit on when he came home.

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  58. #58 Laurinda
    May 29, 2011 pm31 7:18 am

    Well Bill took my posting on money much differently than I intended it for all of you—SOOOO, I want you to all know that it was NOT my intent to preach about money to any of you, and NO, I do NOT know any of your financial situations. I wrote from living both sides of the coin so to speak—having money and mostly NOT having money. Yes, I also learned what its like to be on public assistance and pay for my food with food stamps—and feel like a total and worthless piece of shit loser…I had a wicked full-blown case of poverty conscioussness that I have been fortunate to finally shake off of my energy field. So my apologies to any of you out there that I may have offended in ANY way….

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  59. #59 LauraTyco
    May 29, 2011 pm31 8:26 am

    Col. Billie Faye Woodard: Traveler to the Inner Earth
    2011 MAY 17
    by Steve Beckow
    On Dec. 31, 2010, SaLuSa said: “You will hear more about those souls that reside in the Inner Earth, that you know as the Agarthans. Before the demise of Lemuria they were the ones that left their land, and continued their evolution by moving to the Inner Earth. They are at a stage where they have moved into a higher level of consciousness, and will be part of open contact when it is safe to do so. They have much to offer and will assist in your final preparations for Ascension.”

    To acquaint us more with the Agarthans from the Inner Earth, here is a series, posted daily, on Agartha.

    Thanks to Julie R.

    Traveler to the Inner Earth
    http://www.thenewearth.org/InnerEarth.html

    Col. Billie Faye Woodard, http://www.thenewearth.org/InnerEarth.html

    Below is an incredible first-hand account from a US Air Force Colonel about the inside of our Planet [courtesy abovetopsecret.com/onelight.com.]

    This information was gathered and written down with permission, from a recording taken on the phone January 10, 2002 (Greg Gavin/Onelight.com):

    My name is Colonel Billie Faye Woodard of the United States Air Force.

    Arrival and Indoctrination

    I was first stationed at Area 51, Nevada, Jan.28, 1971 through 1982. In that period of service I visited the Hollow Interior of the Earth six times, 800 miles deep. Upon my arrival to Area 51 I was indoctrinated to the existence of tunnels beneath Area 51, and soon after I met several of the Underground Shuttle Operators that have a stature of 13 to 14 feet in height. These tunnels, that transverse the world, are built by a species of beings who have existed here before we, a very long time.

    Immediately on my arrival to Area 51, I was made aware of the tunnels and all the workings of the facility itself. They told me that the first 15 levels of the Area 51 facility were man made; that Levels 16-27 were already there. Nobody from our government made them. We were just facilitating them.

    My father had been stationed at Roswell. As part of my induction into the military he requested that I be stationed along with him at the Pentagon. There they said “We have a new duty station for you which will be Area 51 facility, Nevada”, Commonly referred to as S-4. When I went into the Pentagon I was a Second Lieutenant.

    When I came to the Pentagon they gave me the field commission as First Lieutenant. After 3 weeks of being there they handed me my full Colonel rank, saying “you have to be a full Colonel to be stationed at this next facility”. There were 150,000 personnel in this facility, approx. 85% military personnel and 15% civilian. Following my arrival I was taken underground and did not see the light of day for 11.5 years.
    The Tunnels and Shuttles

    The Walls of the Tunnels are very smooth. If you were to pull a hollow tube through a ball of clay you can get an idea of how smooth. The walls have what is likened to a marble finish, which are made of a metal substance, impenetrable; the surface of the walls cannot be penetrated even by a diamond drill nor will a laser penetrate the surface.

    Remember there was a time when we used to see troop movements from point A to B on the Earth’s surface, continually. It was not that long ago. Now, you rarely see this. Now they use tunnels to move all these troops at long distances. The tunnels are wide enough to drive two, 18 foot wheelers side by side.

    Stemming from Area 51, one shuttle goes out to the Pacific Ocean – 350 miles due west of Monterey – where there is a pyramid; another shuttle goes to the Cheyenne Mountain facility

    The length of a large shuttle machine is approx 1/4 mile long. Interior inhabitants make use of these machines – a huge vessel for moving large numbers of people/beings/whatever quickly. The smaller shuttle is 50-60 feet in length, this was the kind I was in. The speed of the shuttles is faster than the speed of sound, they can travel from Area 51 to the main interior of the Earth in less than 10 Earth minutes. In 5-6 minutes you are there.

    The material used to make the shuttles is the same substance that made up the skin of the spacecraft at Roswell. The shuttles run on electromagnetic power using the Earth’s grid line. The operators who I mentioned earlier who are of a stature of 13-14 ft. in height, look like us in their appearance but much more highly evolved, and speak through telepathy. The men have beards or not, and the women’s skin is flawless, indeed having a perfect clear complexion. Their expression for Humans is one of concern for Us – as they see where we Humans are headed. There are seven civilizations residing in the Inner Earth – which are governed by the principles of harmony. They understand and they speak all languages of the earth. Their understanding of medical knowledge is phenomenal.

    My Personal History

    At the age of 12, while walking through a field of corn with another friend I had a paranormal experience. I was taken into a UFO vehicle and transported into the Inner Earth. Here, I lived for 6 months among the Hollow Earth residents.

    You may imagine the wonder of my parents especially of my Father who was in the Military Service, at that time when I disappeared, then to mysteriously return in 6 months. It was due to this experience that I believe my Father made certain that I was engaged under his wing at the Pentagon and later directed to serve at Area 51.

    I am not the biological offspring of my Father, but an adopted child as was my Sister. My Sister was killed by what is referred to as the “Secret Government”. I was able to combat their negativity with my mind, which is stronger, and survived their attacks.

    It is my knowledge through my Guide Zora, an Inner Earth scientist who is 150,000 years old, that my Sister and myself are originally from the Inner Earth, that our true parents live in the Inner Earth. When our Father took us in as adopted children we did not speak a language known to any surface culture.

    I have an unknown blood type. I have never had a disease of any kind. My blood has been medically examined and destroys all viral infection when combined with other blood samples in a lab setting.

    Hollow Earth Vortexes

    The Hollow Earth residents have the ability to split the ocean floor and create a vortex, as is shown with the Bermuda Triangle. There are 7 different levels in these vortexes, and equipment and beings are brought in and placed corresponding to these different levels.

    The vortexes act as doorways for entrance or exit to the hollow interior of the Earth. There is more than one triangle area off of Florida, one at Lake Erie, and another off the coast of Mexico, one off of Japan; as well as other geographic locations of the Earth. These are called “Quiet Zones”. These doorways allow creatures from the interior to come out and in such as the Sasquatch, LochNess…etc.

    All planets are hollow as is the Sun, which is really a planet. There are civilizations in the Sun which have colonies in the Earth’ subterranean regions.

    Seeking Entry

    In order to locate an entrance to the Inner Earth, where ever you are underground, all that you need is your compass. The compass will spin as if you are standing at the North Pole at the tunnel entrance to the Inner Earth.

    When I left the Military Service, I no longer had a means of going into the Hollow Earth. It was necessary that I seek another way. I, and a party of interested seekers, rented a plane which took us to the very rim of the North Pole.

    The People of the Interior

    The people of the interior were very free with showing me around, very articulate in showing you what is exactly going on – they do not hold anything back. They always ask permission when working with Nature, they ask the plants for permission before consuming them or cutting them down, they ask the Mother Earth before they build on it, and do so build with the lay of the land which best suits their environment, a practice similar to the American Indians; therefore seeking to preserve a harmonious state at all times; wanting to be one with Nature at all times; they are more spiritually advanced than surface dwellers and greatly respect Mother Earth.

    The atmosphere is crystal clear, as a rule there are at times clouds, but nothing like rain clouds. The temperature is a constant 73 degrees.

    The people in the interior speak directly with the animals, and the animals speak directly to the people of the interior.

    There is no need for hoarding, for everything is free, no need to create in abundance as everything is ample. A process of bartering is more common than trade in money.

    This is basically a utopian culture with no depression leading into violence. No parties seeking to make war and gain dominance over each other. There are none richer nor poorer.

    There are aero-ships (we term on the surface as flying saucers) in which a part of themselves, a part of their personality goes into the creation of the aero-ship through the process of thought, due to their very powerful minds. This makes the aero-ships perfect in design and execution in motion. Only a few persons of the surface have these similar abilities to create, due to the repression of these abilities in childhood by religion, education, and family fears. The people of the interior are allowed to enter the space of their imagination, if you will, and there they create. Disease will not enter their bodies – for it is not allowed.

    As surface Humanity enters into the coming 4th dimensional phase, the Inner Earth people will come forward and more deeply work with us on the surface. People on the surface are presently so involved with the sense of “me” that they can not live together harmoniously.

    People of the surface who seek to reach the Inner Earth inhabitants through meditation, will receive it. Children who are being born now are becoming more capable of using the wholeness of their brain, which is in common practice in the Interior.

    One of the first things they showed us in the interior was their capability of interplanetary travel and time travel. The basis of time travel is likened to bending space, which comes through the power of meditation and by the acceptance of being an unlimited being. If you train your mind at a subconscious level that you are an unlimited being all things are possible.

    On the surface, capabilities to experience this infinite power are more easily awakened at such Portals as Mt. Shasta which serves as a Space Time Portal directly to the Inner Earth. Once in the surroundings of Mt. Shasta you are drawn into the “harmonious state”. In my experiences at Mt. Shasta the Telosians in their civilisation underground in that area are projecting an aura of great harmony in a lovely atmosphere.

    Area 51

    Of all I saw at Area 51, 95% remains hidden from the public. Going into Area 51 is like going into another world, where they are terribly afraid that other countries and other parties are going to get “this” information. Their thoughts being “if we admit that the Earth is hollow, with a central intelligence in it, this is going to cause discord and fear”. This fear process is generated by the private companies who seek to control and advance their own needs and personal agendas through Area 51.

    I left the Air Force due to their domineering ways by those who sought to act like control freaks, who were stagnating my ability to think and act in a creative manner. In accepting their Orders not to talk about such information, they take it for granted that one will automatically obey.

    Because of my outgoing desire to share information and inform the public at large my Service Pension and all my benefits and rights such as the use of the Commissary, dental and medical, were taken away.

    I was in the military for 13.5 years, from basic to the Pentagon and then to Area 51. The genetic engineering that is taking place at Area 51 is with our younger generation. The “milk carton children” whose photos were commonly seen in the markets in the past, were abducted and taken to Area 51.

    Level 16 of Area 51 is the genetic engineering level, where they are using our children for experimentation in longevity and powers of the mind. The major force behind this is what is termed as the “Secret Government”. There are civilians of the Secret Government which are in control in several areas of Area 51.

    There is a network of tunnels underground that go all the way to Europe, South America – the several continents. And there is an intermingling of this great network of tunnels throughout the globe, of which many governments use. God bless you and be with you,

    Colonel Bill Faye Woodard

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  60. #60 LauraTyco
    May 29, 2011 pm31 8:27 am

    Loved that article Bill, will put it on my blog! Yes

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  61. #61 Laurinda
    May 29, 2011 pm31 9:03 am

    Yup—the underground bases in the U.S. and the underground high speed train/shuttle system— linking all over the United States and the entire world are paid for by—you guessed it— the lowly taxpayers… through IMMENSE Black Ops budgets. Richard Sauder, Ph.D. is the leading expert on this subject. He is very interesting when interviewed. His book “Underground Bases and Tunnels” is a real eye-opener too. My favorite photos are the gigantic rock boring machines that drill and turn the walls into glass—and there, plain as day on the side of the this machine are the words “United States Air Force”. I believe these machines are manufactured in Germany…Hey America, you will never enjoy your hard-earned tax dollars at work on THESE projects! US Flag

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  62. #62 Laurinda
    May 29, 2011 pm31 9:15 am

    Interesting interview Laura, and thank you for posting it here. It makes me wonder though..if this man is even still with us, as the sinister Secret Government would see him as a traitor to their cause…

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  63. #63 LauraTyco
    May 29, 2011 pm31 9:36 am

    Hey Laurinda:

    I know from my life planning that there is something wonderful going on in the Inside of the Earth and of Mars. It has to do with deep caves, water and life and it can save our lives if things go mad on he surface. This is what i was given before being born to this life. I only had a clue of what all this meant when I joined GM last year thanks to Gunner posting the Admiral Byrne’s journal. And thanks to all the talks about the Secret Government project 2 do with what you talk about in your post 61. I will check that man’s name too Smile Thank you for that!!

    It looks like Billie Faye is still alive. I just read quickly through this:

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Colonel Billie Faye Woodard

    Biography
    Interviewed and Written
    by
    Rodney M. Cluff
    2008

    Retired Colonel Billie Faye Woodard and twin sister, Zuria were born in our hollow earth, and delivered to outer earth on September 18, 1951.

    They were born with exceptional abilities. Billie can remember their parents talking to them as babies. Soon after their birth, their hollow earth parents told them they would not be living with them any longer. They were taken to Wichita Falls, Texas and put in a litter barrel garbage container in a park where a passing park attendant and a police officer heard them crying. They were retrieved and put in an orphanage and about 5 years later were adopted by a US Air Force Colonel Woodard, his wife and two sons. Billie’s adoptive parents were both of American Indian descent, the mother an Apache, and adoptive father, a Cherokee. Billie’s adoptive mother died this year and was cremated in a sacred Apache burial ritual which Billie was able to attend. The adoptive father is still living, but not doing too well in health.

    At the age of five, Billie remembers talking to his sister when they were at a restaurant with their adopted parents and a nearby man exclaimed with great surprise to their parents, “Do you know what your children are saying over there, in their communication? Do you know that your children are talking to each other in an extinct language? I am a professor of ancient languages at the University of Texas (at Austin) and your children are speaking to each other in the extinct Lemurian language!”

    Among the unusual characteristics Billie and his sister had was that they were born with both male and female organs. They were, in fact, hermaphrodites, but with the years Billie has become more masculine. Today Billie speaks in a deep masculine voice, and has become quite strong. Regrettably, Billie admits that the step father was a pedophile that molested Billie at a very young age on a regular basis, and invited one of the brothers to molest also, until Billie told some of his classmates at school at the age of 10. The step father would put sleeping pills in his wife’s drink at meal time so she would go to sleep while he went up into Billie’s attic room to molest Billie, where Billie was kept locked up most of the time. When the step-father heard that the word had gotten out at school, he immediately stopped molesting Billie and took Billie to the US Air Force base hospital and had Billie’s vagina sealed and the ovaries and uterus removed. With the female organs removed, Billie became only male. The step father then made Billie dress in male clothing. For this molestation, the step-father spent some time in jail and later the Air Force removed Billie from that family and was placed with another Indian family near Apache Junction, Arizona.

    Billie’s sister was separated from them at the age of six. It happened when they were both taken to a base where they were given all kinds of tests on their exceptional abilities. At one point, Billie decided no more tests were bearable, and so with just mind control, Billie created havoc with the test readings. Soon after this, Billie’s adoptive father sold Billie’s sister to another Air Force Sergeant for $1 million dollars.

    The military told them that the sister later had died in the tests that they had given her, but they later learned that she hadn’t died, but was taken to an underground base for more testing, and soon after was taken to our hollow earth by a hollow earth flying saucer that rescued her from her military captors.

    Soon after the adopted father had gotten out of jail, Billie was coming home from a Scout activity with a friend, and as they neared their home in the countryside, Billie wanted to take a short cut through a corn field, but the friend insisted on continuing on the road for fear of walking through the cornstalks. After passing through the corn field, Billie was coming close to home when a man in uniform shouted into his mobile phone, “We have found Billie! Call off the search!”

    Billie wondered what was going on. The parents wanted to know where Billie had been for the past six months, and Billie replied, “What do you mean? I just came home from Scouts with my friend.” The friend that lived next door had rushed over at the commotion and remarked, “But that was six months ago!”

    So the step-father took Billie in to the military base, and an hypnotic session was run to help recall what had happened in the missing time.

    With the help of the hypnotic regression, Billie recalled what had happened that late summer evening when coming home with the friend from the Scout activity. As Billie had walked through the corn field, Billie had noticed a bright star that seemed to get brighter and brighter until a round metallic shape was visible. When it got closer, Billie could see that it was about 150 feet in diameter and looked like a flying saucer space craft. A strange, but soothing, soft angelic music was coming from it and a pleasant voice asked, “Billie, would you like to take a journey with us on our ship?” Billie replied that that would be fun, and immediately began floating up in the air towards the ship and was taken aboard.

    The flying saucer occupants were very friendly, but very large in stature. There were several crew members, but a man and a woman were attending to Billie. The woman was about 10 feet tall and the man about 13 feet tall. Billie remarked to them that they were very tall and large people. They said that Billie was a very perceptive person and asked how Billie was doing in geography at school. Billie let them know that straight “A’s” were received in school, and even recognized the places they were flying over. As they would fly over each state’s capital on the way north, Billie recognized and named off the different state flags. As they reached Canada, where Billie had been to Calgary at one time during the Calgary Rodeo Stampede with a step-brother, Billie recognized the city.

    The flying saucer then flew up over the Arctic and Billie was asked about what was seen and where they were. Billie said there was ice and snow but didn’t know where they were. They told Billie they were flying over northern Canada and soon they were out over the Arctic Ocean covered with ice floes. The craft then flew through a big hole in the Arctic Ocean into the interior of the earth where they could see an interior sun shining and many cities on the interior surface of the planet. There Billie lived with them for six months. While there, Billie met many people that had disappeared from the surface of the earth, such as pilots lost in the Bermuda triangle. They were now large in stature. After living in the earth for a time as result of the less gravity there, Billie says this allows people living there to grow larger in stature. There, Billie also met his sister again, who told Billie that in six months time Billie would be sent back to the surface world. After the six months stay in the Hollow Earth, Billie was returned to Texas and was left in the corn field with no recollection of the trip.

    The Air Force later removed Billie from the Woodard family at age 13 and he was adopted by the Henderson family, but with no change of name, at which time they lived near Apache Junction, Arizona. Henderson worked for the military but was not a military man. At that time, Billie attended the Apache Reservation school by school bus and graduated from High School on the Apache Reservation in their advanced gifted program at an early age.

    After Billie graduated from High School, and after waiting a couple of years, the new step father signed an approval for Billie to join the Air Force. So after Basic Training of 8 weeks, and then advanced training for 6 weeks, Billie signed an agreement to be stationed in Hawaii, but instead was taken to the Pentagon and told that the next assignment was a top secret facility in the Nevada desert known as Area 51, and that the current rank of Lieutenant was not sufficient for that assignment and so he was advanced to field commission of Colonel.

    On the way to Area 51, they boarded a four engine prop plane at Nellis Air Force Base near Las Vegas, Nevada. It was morning when they boarded the airplane and Billie noticed that all the windows were blackened out so they couldn’t see out. A short time later they landed and got out of the airplane at Area 51. To Billie, it looked like night time. Billie remarked as to why it was so dark and why they could see no stars. Billie was told they were inside a mountain. They boarded a staff car and soon started down a 45 degree angle incline which was somewhat alarming. Soon the car reached another level and Billie was told to get out and go into a building, and take off all clothes. Soon a pink mist filled the room in some kind of decontamination routine.

    With a new set of clothes on, they took the vehicle down another steep incline to another level far beneath the previous level and were told to go into another building where a blue mist this time filled the room for another type of decontamination. Billie was given a new uniform that had a triangle logo with the numbers 51 on it. Outside the patch was another circle with the words, “Black Project” and on the bottom of the circle the words, “Top Secret.”

    They then got into an elevator and went down to another level. The elevator descended so rapidly that they were almost weightless. It soon slowed down and stopped and when the elevator doors opened, they were looking at a nice little underground town with people walking here and there. It is located on the 10th level. It looked as bright as daylight just like a little town on the surface world, except they couldn’t see very far. There was a sun-like orb in the sky and above that was pitch black. Billie’s living quarters were on this 10th level.

    Billie was then taken to an assigned office on the 6th level in Archives and relieved the previous on-duty officer, who remarked that he was happy to be leaving. Billie asked him, “Why?”, but he just shrugged and said that he had had enough. He said, “You’ll find out soon enough why I just want to get out of here and why am glad to be leaving.” Billie sat down at the desk and looked through the files and folders on the desk. The files and folders were classified documentation the military has gathered over the years on Our Hollow Earth. Among the documents, Billie was able to study a 35 page document on Admiral Richard E. Byrd’s journeys to Our Hollow Earth through both the north and south polar openings. Billie distinctly remembers reading the exact coordinates of the north polar opening that leads into Our Hollow Earth. A day later a higher ranking officer came and said, “Your presence is requested on a lower level. You were asked for by name.”

    Billie was then taken to still another lower level that opened into a tunnel where a shuttle train waited. The new attendants who greeted Billie were very tall, one was male and the other was female. They seemed to be giants compared to Billie’s own height of 5′ 11″. They were similar to those that had taken Billie on the flying saucer at age 12. They greeted Billie pleasantly in English and invited Billie to step aboard the shuttle train and was asked to strap in. When Billie asked where they would be going, they said, “Telos,” a sacred Lemurian city beneath Mt. Shasta, California where Billie met their great High Priest leader, Adama and his wife, Raia and was given a tour of their underground city.

    For the next 11 and half years, Billie journeyed three times to our hollow earth in shuttle craft through the underground tunnels, and subsequently also to many other underground cities located in the earth’s crust. Two trips to our hollow earth in the shuttle craft were on official business between our military and the inner earth peoples. The third trip was not on official business, but it was a special trip Billie made to advise the hollow earth peoples that it was futile to try to influence our military to become peaceful. At that time, Billie requested permission to stay in the hollow earth, but they wouldn’t grant permission. They told Billie they had a mission for Billie to carry out on the surface world. That mission is to let outer earth peoples know of the existence of Our Hollow Earth. Also that the hollow earth peoples want to be known, and that they are a peaceful people. The more that outer peoples know about the hollow earth and the peaceful people that live there, then the more successful they hope they will be in being accepted by outer earthlings when the hollow earth peoples do decide to emerge openly to the people of the earth’s outer surface.

    Billie says Agharta is a cavern city and that there are two Shambhala’s — one in a cavern city, and another in the hollow interior. Billie’s mission was to interact with the hollow earth peoples and report everything learned to superiors in the Air Force. Billie took many pictures and meticulously documented everything seen and heard, and was debriefed completely after each trip.

    From what Billie learned, the hollow earth people had been interested in trying to convince our military to stop their aggressive behavior as well as their atomic testing which was poisoning the atmosphere on and in the earth which could harm people in the interior and on the outer surface of the planet. Finally, Billie convinced the hollow earth people that it was useless to try to get the military and our government to change their aggressive behavior. It was a waste of time he told them. Billie suggested to the hollow earth people that they begin interfacing and contacting the civilian population of the outer earth instead, if they wanted to see a true change on the earth.

    Billie’s contacts agreed and said they would start making more civilian contact in the future. They have since told Billie that after the present North Polar Inner Earth expedition, that outer earth peoples will start to see more contacts in the near future.

    Billie says that in other journeys within the tunnel systems they visited many cavern cities and many inner earth cities. Billie says that there are tunnels made by the Rand Corporation boring machines, which are not as well made as the hollow earth people’s tunnels. There are tunnels made by the hollow earth people, and tunnels made by cavern cities of other races that live underground, and there are still other ancient tunnels made by the ancient civilizations of Atlantis that was located in the Atlantic Ocean, and Lemuria, which was a Pacific continent called Mu that is now submerged.

    Of those tunnels made by surface governments, tunnels join all the capital cities of the world where government leaders can find asylum in case of war or natural disaster. There are many such complexes that exist under all the major cities of the United States, for the same purpose, but which the governments have prepared only for the survival of the government, not the civilian population, in preparation for the close passage of a planet-sized comet that will cause very high winds, earthquakes and tsunamis.

    After visiting Telos, the Lemurian city beneath Mt. Shasta, Billie was taken back to Area 51. Later Billie was taken in a tunnel shuttle to the hollow earth.

    Billie says that the shell of the earth is from 800 to 850 miles thick, and that the center of gravity is about halfway between the outer and inner surfaces of the earth’s shell, and that the inner surface gravity is a little less than one-third the outer surface gravity which allows for the larger stature of the hollow earth people, or any surface people that go to the hollow earth and stay there for a length of time.

    Billie said that the hollow earth has an inner sun that gives photosynthesis light that provides life to the hollow earth peoples, animals and giant plant life, and that the hollow earth country is a most beautiful and harmonious, peaceful place, that even the animals are friendly and able to communicate with humans telepathically and are not aggressive. There are NO meat-eating animals in the hollow earth, but all eat vegetation instead. The inner atmosphere, Billie says, is so healthy that no disease can exist there, and if a diseased person coming from the surface would go there, they would be cured just by breathing the air. Before Billie was taken to the hollow earth at age 12, Billie had minor childhood sicknesses like colds, and tonsillitis, but when taken to the hollow earth, Billie’s immune system was fortified to a more healthful state. Since then, Billie’s health has deteriorated somewhat due to living on the surface again because of the pollution here, but knows that once he returns home to the hollow earth, his immune system will return to a completely healthy state.

    When Billie arrived at the hollow earth inner surface, they emerged from the shuttle station at the hollow earth capitol City of Eden, the main city of the hollow earth. It is built around and within the original Garden of Eden on the highest mountain plateau of the inner continent and estimates it is located under the State of Arkansas or close to. Billie says that the world inside our earth has one continent and one ocean, but that there is more land inside the earth than on the exterior surface.

    Billie agrees completely with the Olaf Jansen story, who were Norwegian fishermen that sailed through the North Polar Opening north east of Franz Josef Land, in 1829 — that the hollow earth is exactly as Olaf described in his book, The Smoky God — because Billie has been there and seen what it is like.

    At Eden, Billie was taken before the King of the World, who is also the Great High Priest Over All the Land, to a beautiful pyramid type palace where the King sat on his great marble throne. Billie accompanied by Air Force Colonel McCloud, (and on another subsequent visit with a Colonel Stevenson) were interviewed by the King of the Inner World and asked many questions regarding our outer world, our government and the United States military and what they were up to. Upon returning to Area 51, Billie was completed debriefed and minutely documented all that was learned in Our Hollow Earth.

    Billie recounted a time during the military years when he was ordered to fly a US military saucer at Area 51, known as the Sports Craft, the same craft Bob Lazar saw at Area 51. An alien co-pilot instructed Billie on how to fly the craft and accompanied Billie on test flights taken out at night. Billie had been told when assigned to Area 51, that he would not see the light of day while serving there. They flew up over Las Vegas, and other cities and played tag with military jets that were scrabbled to chase their flying saucer and they were able to fly circles around the jets. Billie said the craft was flown by placing the hands on indentations on the control panel that were shaped like hands. Immediately upon placing the hands, Billie had complete control of the craft with just thought commands. If Billie wanted to go in any direction, he just had to think to go in that direction and the craft responded immediately. The craft could make right angle turns at very high speeds, and fly any pattern — all with no g-force effects. This craft was of our making under the direction of the extraterrestrial, which our military has been building for some time. Billie said they had about 67 saucers built by our military black projects housed at that time at Area 51.

    Billie also recounted how the many missing children that have been displaced (as seen on milk cartons) every year throughout the United States are taken to Area 51 where the military black projects are transforming them into programmed biological entities so that they look like hybrid aliens. Their plan is to use the flying saucers they are building and the hybrid entities they are genetically engineering from our children to stage an alien invasion from space to get the whole world to submit to a one world government in defense of the aliens that they have created. When shown this, Billie became so disgusted with the military black projects that he decided not to have anything more to do with this project, and decided to get out of the military.

    After Billie’s military career was over, Billie was discharged from the Air Force at the Sewart Air Force base, now Smyrna Airport, Tennessee, debriefed at their deprogramming underground facility, and upon orders of superiors, Billie’s military files were sealed with NO access by ANYONE. Billie has tried many times to get a record of his military service, but is told those records are sealed, that no-one can see them. Billie was told by military superiors not to speak or talk to anyone of any assignments in the military. However, Billie told them, “I no longer work for you so I will do as I please.” For that, Billie’s military pension was withdrawn and today lives in Pahrump, Nevada on Social Security disability.

    Over the years Billie married and fathered three children who are now grown. The first two children were boys born to the first wife, an Army military policewoman, stationed at Area 51. They were 5 years together. Later that wife went to work for the FBI and so was able to verify Billie’s military records. Billie has been married three times, but is now divorced. The second wife Billie married after being discharged from the military. She was a Cherokee Indian, daughter of the Chief and they were married on the Cherokee Reservation. Billie had a daughter by this wife. The last marriage was in Seattle to a UFO MUFON investigator and lasted from 1990-1996.

    In August 1986, Billie went to live in Alaska looking for a way to go to the hollow earth to go back home. There, Billie enticed several people in an attempt to reach the hollow earth by hiring a bush pilot to fly as an expedition team through the north polar opening. Billie arranged through a flight service out of Fairbanks, Alaska to take them in their decommissioned Navy Albatross seaplane, which is a twin engine seaplane with a boat bottom. It was the same type of seaplane that the Coast Guard uses frequently today — as seen on the Fantasy Island TV program. Billie requested the pilot to take them to certain coordinates in the Arctic to 87.7 N Lat., 142.2 E Lon that Billie had learned from Admiral Byrd’s file at Area 51.

    The pilot was concerned about how they would land out there on the ice, but Billie assured him that there would be open Arctic Ocean when they got to those coordinates. The pilot agreed to fly them to those coordinates, land them on the water and drop them off, and that he would be back for them at a certain time in the future three weeks hence. They took some inflatable power boats that they would use to continue their journey from that point on through the polar opening.

    Unfortunately, before they took off from Point Barrow, Alaska, one of the expedition members who was a New York Times correspondent, made a phone call to his home office who Billy believes then alerted the military of their flight north.

    When they arrived near enough to the polar opening and could see the light beams of the inner sun shining up from the ocean ahead, the pilot was surprised and very afraid and wondered what was going on since they could see the outer sun shining behind them also. Billie assured him that there was nothing to fear, that they were looking at the core of the earth shining out through a polar opening in the earth. But before they could drop down to land in the water and depart in their inflatable boats, they were intercepted by two jet fighters from the Alert Air Force Base, on the northern shore of Ellesmere Island, Canada.

    The airplane radio crackled and a voice came through, which stated, “This is Lt. Colonel Travis of the US Air Force Alert Base intercepting team ordering you to turn your aircraft around IMMEDIATELY and be escorted back to Eielson Air Force Base, Alaska, OR YOU WILL BE TERMINATED! You have 5 minutes to comply.”

    Reluctantly, they started to make their turn around. At the same time, looking through the front view of the aircraft, they suddenly saw three glowing disks appear — flying saucers — ahead of them.

    The radio crackled again, and another voice came over the radio saying, “Billie, we are here to welcome you to our domain, as you have attempted to enter. We are sorry. You will not make it this time. However, your next journey WILL succeed! Auf Wiedersehen!”

    And then the three flying saucers suddenly just blinked out.

    Rather than disobey orders and get terminated, they decided to turn the aircraft around and do as the US Air force pilot suggested. They retraced their path back to Alaska, where they were instructed to land at Eielson Air Force Base, just southeast of Fairbanks, Alaska. There they were put under bright lights and interrogated and drilled by several agents of the FBI and the National Security Agency. They wanted to make sure they were not terrorists or affiliated with any foreign government. But after they realized they were harmless, they were released and given a stern warning not to tell anyone of what they saw on this trip, and if they were to try that trip again there would be no warning the next time and they would be terminated.

    Billie says that many, if not most people in Alaska, have gone there with the hopes of going to Our Hollow Earth. Among the interesting persons Billie met in Alaska was a retired Air Force Col. Jackson of Talkeetna, Alaska that told Billie that in many of his flights into the Arctic out of Eielson Air Force base, near Fairbanks, Alaska, he saw the North Polar Opening and observed many flying saucers going in and coming out of it like bees out of a hive. Billie also tells of another contact he made in Talkeetna who had a ham radio and they tried many times to glance a radio beam off a hollow earth satellite that looks like a giant rock that is suspended over the North Polar Opening, down into the hollow earth to see if they could make contact with the hollow earth peoples that way. Billie says that one evening after his friend had gone to bed that he was able to finally make radio contact with the hollow earth people with this ham radio set.

    Billie says that when his twin sister, Zuria was taken to an underground think tank around the age of 10, by force to test her abilities, she discovered that they were wanting to dissect her body to see if they could figure out why she had such amazing capabilities and characteristics. She then put out a mental telepathy call to the hollow earth for assistance and they came in one of their flying saucers. On a rare occasion that she was allowed to come to the surface, the flying saucer blinked into visibility, and she was beamed up before her captors could grab her — and she was taken home to the hollow earth. She is waiting there for Billie to return.

    Billie is also anxious to return home to Our Hollow Earth soon.

    http://www.ourhollowearth.com/ColBillieFayeWoodard.htm

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  64. #64 LauraTyco
    May 29, 2011 pm31 10:03 am

    Advice to an Old Guy…

    An old guy (not in the best of shape) was working out in the gym when he spotted a hottie. He asked the trainer that was nearby, “What machine in here should I use to impress that babe over there?”

    The trainer looked him up and down and said, “I would try the ATM in the lobby”.

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  65. #65 spedman
    May 29, 2011 pm31 10:06 am

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs4emKd_fG4 sure yall have heard of this guy he was involved in the underground bases.

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  66. #66 Kellia
    May 29, 2011 pm31 10:43 am

    Steffie # 51

    From my web site:

    Money is a system of power. The more our lives depend on money, the greater our subservience to those who control the creation and allocation of money. — David Korten

    ‎”It is easier to control those who are struggling for survival than…those who are striving for improvement.” — Dennis Kaiser

    “America touts itself as the land of the free, but the number one freedom you and I have is the freedom to enter into a subservient role in the workplace…The only way you can avoid bosses and jobs is if you don’t care about making a living, which leads to the second freedom: the freedom to starve.” — Tom Morello — Rage Against the Machine

    Lord Cutler Beckett: No doubt you’ve discovered that loyalty is no longer the currency of the realm, as your father believes.
    Elizabeth Swan: Then what is?
    Lord Cutler Beckett: I’m afraid currency is the currency of the realm.

    –Pirates of the Caribbean 2: Dead Man’s Chest.

    Only when the last tree has died, the last river poisoned and the last fish caught will we realize that we cannot eat money.
    –19th Century Cree Indian

    As for the Republicans — how can one regard seriously a frightened, greedy, nostalgic huddle of tradesmen and lucky idlers who shut their eyes to history and science, steel their emotions against decent human sympathy, cling to sordid and provincial ideals exalting sheer acquisitiveness and condoning artificial hardship for the non-materially-shrewd, dwell smugly and sentimentally in a distorted dream-cosmos of outmoded phrases and principles and attitudes based on the bygone agricultural-handicraft world, and revel in (consciously or unconsciously) mendacious assumptions (such as the notion that real liberty is synonymous with the single detail of unrestricted economic license or that a rational planning of resource-distribution would contravene some vague and mystical ‘American heritage’…) utterly contrary to fact and without the slightest foundation in human experience? Intellectually, the Republican idea deserves the tolerance and respect one gives to the dead.
    — HP Lovecraft, 1936

    “To the illumined man or woman, a clod of dirt, a stone, and gold are the same.” –Bhagavad Gita

    “My view is that Washington and the regulators are there to serve the banks.” –Rep. Spencer Bachus (R-AL)

    “Our problems stem from our acceptance of this rotten, filthy system.”
    –Dorothy Day

    “What is a cynic? A man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.” – Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere’s Fan, 1892.

    David Korten’s quote is the most important of these. My saying The End Of Money is merely shorthand. I am really saying we must abolish monetary systems where by the few can control the many by rationing access to money, and making people feel like they themselves are to blame if they don’t have it. But we run on an economic system that glorifies scarcity by giving it the most money and denigrates abundance (“You get what you pay for” ).

    You can see the failure of the system to provide for people even when everything is done above board. McDonald’s held a National Hiring Day recently. They had planned on hiring 50,000 people and ended up hiring 62,000. But over 1 million people applied. Their roughly 6 % hiring made them more exclusive than the admissions departments of Harvard, Yale and Stanford. They only need so many people, right?

    What happens to the 94% of applicants who couldn’t even get a job at McDonalds?

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  67. #67 dreamwalker
    May 29, 2011 pm31 10:58 am

    @kellia – How do we do this without violence?

    -we’re doing it now!
    - wikileaks?
    - ask them to stop?

    I am enjoying this train of thought!

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  68. #68 spedman
    May 29, 2011 pm31 11:12 am

    http://www.cosmic-conspiracies.com/alienabduction.html what do you think??? was this and abduction?

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  69. #69 dreamwalker
    May 29, 2011 pm31 11:19 am

    #67 “ask them to stop” – i.e.

    When you _____________, it effects me this way ___________

    In the future, I would like you to _______________

    Not sure how this translates to your situation…

    “Hey there Mr. CEO! When you pollute our waterways, it harms my children. In the future, I would like you to clean up your output.”

    ??? Sorry I’m not very good at this… Smile

    “Hey there Mr. CEO! When you make buckets of money, there’s none for us! In the future I’d like you to ask our politicians to support more social programs!”

    Hmmm…

    The trick is it has to be something immediately achievable and quantifiable. I guess the above is kinda what Michael Moore is already doing…

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  70. #70 Kellia
    May 29, 2011 pm31 11:25 am

    I think my biggest spiritual problem with money for myself may come from some notion that to write about it or report journalistically about the fact that economic systems don’t serve the majority of the world’s people, I have to live that fact.

    I know that is not really necessary and in fact in journalism it is frowned upon to be part of the story (although it does happen on occasion).

    I also have the problem of needing to sell my ideas and many people look askance at paying to advance the idea of abolishing monetary systems. I tried a Kickstarter.com project requesting $20,000 donations for a book and documentary and it failed miserably.

    But the following shows how screwed up the world is.

    My fiance had his own project, to make an everyday production of his comic based on World of Warcraft for a year and during that year to switch it from the proprietary WOW models to his own drawings. He had already been doing the comic weekly and had an average of 2,000 unique views a week. Over 12 Million people play the game worldwide/ He asked for $10,000. That failed miserably too. He got about $180 in pledges including my pledge of $100.

    A very successful project? A guy who was a competitive lockpick (yeah, lockpicking is a sport!) who asked for $6,000 to build prototypes of his own design for lockpicking tools, got over $80,000!

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  71. #71 bateleur
    May 29, 2011 pm31 11:30 am

    Kellia, have you tried the exercise that I posted here a few days ago – I had similar problems. I later found out, that I had a negative program running in the background, that kept me from becoming what I wanted.

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  72. #72 Kellia
    May 29, 2011 pm31 11:38 am

    Dreamwalker # 69

    We elected a congress and a President to stop war and look at what he has done.

    Yes, Frederick Douglass was right when he said power concedes nothing without a demand, but that is just the beginning. A demand is just words that can be ignored and
    are being ignored everyday as you can see in the newspaper or on the Internet.

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  73. #73 babajij
    May 29, 2011 pm31 12:32 pm

    …the Moon celestial Sun ride begins Star

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  74. #74 Bill
    May 29, 2011 pm31 3:01 pm

    Interesting…I go to log in to Yahoo email, and there is a picture with houses in the lower left corner, and a UFO in the upper right corner. The UFO is shining down a beam of light.

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  75. #75 Admiral2012here
    May 29, 2011 pm31 5:57 pm

    …hmm? Bill, maybe Yahoo is planting a subliminal message of UFO’s…got to get the UFO thought into peeps minds Question

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  76. #76 Kellia
    May 29, 2011 pm31 5:57 pm

    Why the Basic Income Guarantee (BIG) is not a solution to poverty

    By Kéllia Ramares

    A German citizen left a comment on The End Of Money Facebook page. “What about the idea that is been actively discussed in Germany, about the “grundeinkommen” – basic income guarantee? This will change all.”

    Actually, it would not change the worst features of all monetary systems, if it could be passed at all.

    Because we have monetary systems, people go about making money, through employment (selling your time and labor), entrepreneurship (owning and running a business) and investment (supporting someone else’s entrepreneurship with your money, or sometimes other materials, without active participation in the business). Even criminal enterprises are created and run through these means, which are not mutually exclusive. E,g, you can labor in a business that you own, while accepting investments in that business.

    The desire to make money is expressed in capitalist terms as the profit motive. Profit (or loss) is most basically described as the difference between the cost of producing a good or service and its price in the marketplace. This definition of profit implicitly contains the idea that you want to sell your goods and services for more than they cost to make. (The income on which the seller lives is a cost of doing business, not profit.)

    Getting more in return for the item than it cost to make can be accomplished in two ways, again not mutually exclusive. You can offer your item for as much as the market will bear, and you can lower your costs as much as possible.

    The seller generally has greater flexibility in controlling costs than in raising prices, especially if he faces a lot of competition in marketplace. But labor, especially labor that does not carry a high or rare skill set, is a more flexible cost than machinery, land and other material supplies. So we see today the widespread wage and benefit cuts, outsourcing, layoffs, union busting tactics, automation, and the increasing dependence on unpaid internships and other sources of volunteerism in for-profit as well as non-profit ventures, as ways of controlling labor costs.”

    Ironically, a basic income guarantee will depress wages as corporations figure that they can lower wages by the amount of guarantee that the taxpayer (not the corporations) will foot. Even if they are forbidden by law to lower wages on existing employees because of a BIG, they would probably not be legally blocked from lowering wages of future employees. In the United States at least, we are familiar with two-tier wage and benefit systems, an all too common labor union concession whereby the union agrees to new hires being paid less and forced to wait longer to vest benefits than the current staff.

    A basic income guarantee would not change this behavior of further reducing worker’s circumstances. It will merely turn into a partial cost shifting mechanism for business and a moral fig leaf for corporatist politicians to claim they are doing something for the workers.

    The BIG is also an inefficient tool because it would not be means tested in an attempt to escape the political ire of opponents who view it as “social engineering”, “wealth redistribution” “killing of work incentive” and other such garbage for which other basic income programs are criticized, at least in the United States” So the wealthy would be getting the BIG as well as the poor, even though they do not need it!

    Labor management, i.e. control, has always been one of the bosses’ great concerns, even when all is profitable. As David Korten wrote in Yes! Magazine, “Money is a system of power. The more our lives depend on money, the greater our subservience to those who control the creation and allocation of money.” Or as it is more popularly phrased, The Golden Rule is “Them that has the gold makes the rules.”

    Money as power is at the heart of what is wrong with any monetary system, capitalist or socialist. When Alan Greenspan was chairman of the Federal Reserve, he said that mortgages and credit cards were great tools of labor management because workers living from paycheck to paycheck could not afford to strike or otherwise complain about working conditions. Their interest rates would go up for missing or being late with a credit card payment. They would lose their home if they missed their mortgage payments.

    Though in theory, a worker could flee an exploitative job without fear for survival under a basic income guarantee, the BIG would be whatever the government administering it would think is a BASIC income. The power relationship that is expressed by the monetary system would still be in place. So maybe you could still eat, but you would have to settle for Agribiz corporate swill instead of organic fruits and veggies. Maybe even a modest-sized house would no longer be affordable and you would have to move to a small apartment, if you can get it. What would be the credit scoring ramifications of existing on a BIG? Nowadays, in the United States at least, employers and landlords are fairly obsessed with credit ratings. The credit scoring system is not transparent and it is often difficult for a consumer to correct erroneous information on a report. Maybe you could no longer save for retirement or your children’s post-secondary education. You would only have a basic existence if you depended on a BIG for any appreciable length of time. And that is the way even the proponents of BIG would want it, to make it politically palatable.

    Thus, BIG has the same moral problem I find with monetary systems in general: It forces human beings to subsist by the sufferance of others when in fact we are equally all the creatures of God or accident, whatever you believe about that, and thus, no one should have the power to dictate the conditions under which another will live.

    Getting another job to improve your circumstances in this setting would depend on the same factors we see in the economy today – outsourcing, lay-offs, increased “precariousness” of labor, a largely European term for that growing sector of the labor market that is re part-time, seasonal or otherwise temporary, and unbenefitted. Globalization has encouraged business to look all around the world for the cheapest and most docile workforces. BIG will not eliminate this.

    The one thing the BIG might do is to quell the discontent of the masses just enough to keep them from investigating alternatives to monetary systems. When things get hot enough, long enough, for a large enough group of people, a revolution will occur, or the politicians will find a way to suppress the popular will, by force, bribe, or minor concessions made to look like great change by the corporate media. I think BIG is the latter.

    We are better off scuttling monetary systems altogether than to rearrange deck chairs on our “Titanic” economies with programs such as basic income guarantees. Our goal should be thriving cohesive communities, not large numbers of people whom those more fortunate think should be grateful just to survive.

    Kéllia Ramares is an independent journalist in Oakland who knows first hand about exploitative jobs and the precariousness of labor. Her web site is The End Of Money: A Critique of Paying, Owing and Working “for a Living”. She can be reached at theendofmoney[at]gmail.com.

    CC Kellia Ramares, 2011 BY-NC-SA

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  77. #77 Kellia
    May 29, 2011 pm31 6:30 pm

    Bateleur #71

    I can’t find it. What date did you put it under?

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  78. #78 Kellia
    May 29, 2011 pm31 6:34 pm

    Steffie,

    I started reading your comment about the law and then stopped very quickly.

    If that court case is an argument in favor of a Bible-based government, it has my full and vehement opposition.

    I am not a Christian!

    And if the alleged ETs who send channelled messages are sectarian, I don’t want what they are selling.

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  79. #79 dreamwalker
    May 29, 2011 pm31 7:19 pm

    #70 I love your writing Kellia, but Ending Money is just too abstract for most people.

    What is the the next thing I can do to end money, that will still keep me and my family “safe”?

    Your BIG article touches on this, but I would say your average joe sixpack doesn’t give a damn. My beer costs x, my rent costs x, my food costs x. If I don’t have to pay one of those things, that’s great. How? You’re going to raise my taxes? No way! (yet this would even the playing field).

    I agree that what politicians say and do are two different things. That’s why people protest and strike. I believe the main problem with politics is the corporations. Take them out of the equation, and presumably you have a slightly fairer system. Corporations can’t vote, yet they get to call the shots.

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  80. #80 Stick
    May 29, 2011 pm31 7:35 pm

    ‘The Power of Silence’…

    **The Akashic Records On: Meditation and Connecting to the Source**
    Channeler: Jen Eramith MA

    ~Why is meditation practice important in order for one to be connected to the source?

    Any given meditation practice is not necessarily important. It depends on who you are. Some of you will have certain meditation practices be a perfect fit for connecting you in source, others of you will not. The thing that is important about meditation, as you have all defined it as what we are going to call “silence”. Silence is important for connecting with source. Meditation practice is one of the most direct ways to enter silence.

    Different practices lead you there in different ways and all of them are fine, though some of them will not be fine for some of you. Silence is important because source, or God, or the divine, whatever you want to call it, is not something that you reach for, it is something that you remember. The fact is you are the Divine. You are a part of Source.

    The process of connecting with Source, connecting with God, requires some degree of inner silence. It is in that inner silence that you remember who you really are. It is in that inner silence that your mind can come to a realization of what it feels like to be your true self. Now keep in mind that meditation practice, often the first section or phase of meditation practice, involves a lot of discomfort. What you first come up with is not who you truly are but all of the blocks, fears and baggage that has been piled upon you. Do not imagine that is who you truly are. As long as you are grappling with that you are not really in the silence quite yet. It is worthwhile to keep waiting for it because eventually after enough practice or waiting, you come to true silence; the silence that is who you truly are is your best way of perceiving the divine or source.

    Any given meditation practice is not necessary for this but silence is necessary; inner contemplative, peaceful, loving silence. Any spiritual practice that helps you find that over and over again is beneficial.

    ~Why do I feel my connection to the source fade over a period of time once I have been awakened and reminded of my soul spirit?

    This is one of the reasons that spiritual practice is not a singular event — it is an ongoing process. Spiritual practice is always meant to be returned to time and time again. The way that this works is all of you are divine beings and all of you are human beings. Part of being human and living in the human world is experiencing fragmentation or separation, experiencing yourselves as separate from one another or separate from the divine. While it is not actually true that you are separate, it is true for your experience here as long as you are a human being, there is a truth in experience. You do experience yourselves as separate. The ebb and flow of being human involves moving in and out of your true self. This occurs in all kinds of ways. You fall in and out of alignment. You fall in and out of feeling good or bad, in and out of love with yourselves and each other.

    Nothing here is static; in fact, nothing in the universe is static. There is no way as a human being to achieve a permanent unchanging static experience of source. It will never happen, even for those who claim Enlightenment and describe a feeling of being in that bliss all of the time, they know that bliss is continually fluctuating. It may stay up at a certain height or level of vibration but it is always going up and down. As long as you are a human there is ebb and flow in life. The reason that you are experiencing this connection, you feel the connection with source and then you feel it fade away is in a basic sense that you are human. As long as you are human you will feel periods of fragmentation. It is that precisely what is meant to lead you to the next stage or next level of connection. It is useful to employ spiritual practices to carry you through the times when it is easy to feel connected with source and times when it is not easy to feel the connection with source. Both times are relevant, both times are important parts of the process of being human.

    Over time as you employ spiritual practices, the difference between the highs of connection and the lows of fragmentation become less, so the roller coaster ride of being human becomes more like a gentle rolling journey. That is the reason that you sometimes feel disconnected.

    ~In my meditation practice, I have gone to a place in my mind that is lit with a very warm, safe and appealing light. In that place, I have been able to connect with others and heal and resolve things. I am wondering if the other person experiences that space too? Do they enter the Records too?

    When you go to a place in your mind through meditation, you are actually going to a place, though you usually for the most part do not take your physical body with you, it is useful to leave your physical body firmly on Planet Earth; it helps you function better in your everyday life if you do that. You can literally take your spirit or raise your conscious mind into a place where your spirit already resides. That is what you are sensing as this warm, loving, appealing place; this light. This is a place that is not a single place. In very general terms we are going to say that it is the spirit world. You reside there all of the time. This place, or an experience of this place, is always accessible to you. One of the benefits of meditation practice is that you can go there; you can tap into that consciously and use that to reassure your conscious mind to bring a sense of calm and peace to interact with other spirit beings and to bring about healing, rest or whatever you might need. This place is real. You live there already.

    When you connect with another being there, some human being whose spirit you see in that place, yes, and their spirit is experiencing that with you. It depends on the person, whether that person’s conscious mind is aware of that or not. The way things work in the spirit world is that all of you are there at all times. Whether your conscious mind is paying attention or not, part of yourself, your soul self, is in the spirit world, interacting with other people and other spirit beings all of the time. As such you can, literally and truthfully, it would be accurate to say that you meet up with other spirits and whatever you consciously see happen there does happen in the spirit world and it does have an energetic affect in the physical world. This is the reason that some of you have gone through these meditations to resolve issues with other people. Then you find that the issue in everyday life seems to lose its charge. It seems to come to a resolution seemingly on its own, though you know that you began to do the work in the spirit world.

    Most of the time the other person’s conscious mind is not aware of this because the fact is, most of you are not aware of what you are doing in the spirit world most of the time. It might be confusing to talk about it in waking life with people. They will not have the same memory that you have of that meditation. Occasionally you find these magical crossroads where someone tells you that they had a dream, then you tell them about your meditation and then you find that both of you were able to bring your consciousness to the same event in the spirit world. It is magical and powerful when you find those crossroads because it helps you develop further understanding in your conscious mind for what is happening in spirit.

    http://youtu.be/KaeDl8eRHU8
    ~ReclamationOfOurBirthrights247————————– Clock Yin Yang Peace

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  81. #81 Stick
    May 29, 2011 pm31 7:38 pm
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  82. #82 Admiral2012here
    May 29, 2011 pm31 7:40 pm

    …Ooops! Stick you link doesn’t work

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  83. #83 Kellia
    May 29, 2011 pm31 7:55 pm

    Dreamwalker #79

    Yeah, I know most people find the idea too abstract or unrealistic. That is part of why they are sleep. And they have to do some work to find out for themselves, or else it is just another bunch of political propaganda.

    Here are some “practical” suggestions from the end of my long article on making the moneyless society a reality. But the reason the article was so long to being with twas the fact that there are lots of thinking patterns to deconstruct before he can have it large scale, What elese is new?

    Study, and join forces with, people and organizations that today are trying to make the moneyless society a broad-based reality.

    There are many groups at work today on the theoretical and practical issues of reducing dependence on monetary systems or abolishing them altogether. I will name just a few here:

    Altruists International – the web site of this organization states, “We are an optimistic, positive community with members from both the under- and the over-developed world. We are united by our commitment that a money-centred struggle for personal gain is no way to make the world a better place. We try to ignore money but put people at the heart of what we do, concentrating on what will be of real benefit to others.”

    Demonetize.it – I am a member of this web site. I heartily recommend it for policy wonks who know anyl of the Western European languages to get the most from this European site. But if you know only English, it is still a thought-provoker.

    Shareable – Janelle Orsi, ”the Sharing Lawyer” says ,” Shareable.net is mind-candy for anyone wanting to feel excited about the future. I encourage everyone to check it regularly, follow them on Facebook, and sign up to receive their inspiring weekly round-up emails. I contribute periodically, and here are articles I recently wrote on CA’s New Carsharing Law and How to Start Your Own Carsharing Program. Here are a couple other pieces: The Birth of Sharing Law and How to Barter, Give, and Get Stuff.

    Speaking of Janelle, she is co-director of the Sustainable Economies Law Center . According to the website, “The Sustainable Economies Law Center (SELC) facilitates the growth of sustainable, localized, and just economies, through legal research, professional training, resource development, and education about practices such as:

    • Cooperatives
    • Community-supported enterprises
    • Barter
    • Sharing
    • Local currencies
    • Intentional communities, ecovillages, cohousing
    • Affordable housing and limited equity housing
    • Urban agriculture
    • Community-based renewable energy
    • Community land trusts
    • Social enterprise
    • Microlending
    • Local investing
    • Co-op banks/credit unions”

    SELC is obviously not all about moneyless transactions, but some of it is.

    The End of Money is my own web site. I welcome people who want to add to the discussion of how we can make demonetization a reality, as well as posts concerning why we need to.

    The Venus Project – This futuristic project is based on the work of Jacque Fresco and Roxanne Meadows. It posits a resource-based, rather than money-based, economy. The web site states that “Through the use of innovative approaches to social awareness, educational incentives, and the consistent application of the best that science and technology can offer directly to the social system, The Venus Project offers a comprehensive plan for social reclamation in which human beings, technology, and nature will be able to coexist in a long-term, sustainable state of dynamic equilibrium.” Jacque and Roxanne believe that money should be abolished.

    The list above will start you off. By looking through them, you will find others.

    Reconsider how you currently spend your money and time.

    When you can do so, consider shopping at a farmer’s market or Community Supported Agriculture group. Shop locally when you can, and use community currency when you can. The latter is a good transition tool in demonetization that keeps resources in your community. Have a preference for local merchants and artisans rather than big corporations. (This goes for community banks and credit unions rather than the “big five” bankster groups we Americans have bailed out with our tax money). Donate, if you can spare it. All the organizations above, and others, can use some help. Find one thing you can do to give some time to your community. My fiancé and I have recently agreed to look after one particular area in a neighborhood park.

    Do It Yourself

    One of the biggest arguments for money is that it allows for a specialization of labor. That is good up to a point. But now the specialization of labor has alienated us from Nature and each other. The pendulum needs to swing the other way lest we become like to people aboard the spaceship in the movie WALL-E: so flabby from sitting on our backsides day after day that we can barely walk, and so wrapped up in the “entertainment” provided by the corporate screens in front of us that we are barely aware of the people next to us. Doing it yourself, or with others, is not only cheaper and more creative than opening a store-bought box or can, it allows us to learn new things and learn about people. Example: Don’t like the media? Make your own! Check out the web site DestinationDIY for more information on how to Do It Yourself in many areas of life. You can download an interview I did with the creator of DestinationDIY, Julie Sabatier, here.

    The next time someone laughs at you or argues with you about the practicality of abolishing money, refer them to this article. We are very rapidly coming upon the time where we must end money or we will end our existence on this planet.

    This site does not carry over an article’s links so to view those, go to http://endmoney.info/?p=567

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  84. #84 dreamwalker
    May 29, 2011 pm31 8:47 pm

    #83 – some great links there, thanks for posting. I especially like shareable. Kinda techy, kinda hippie, feels good. Smile

    I noticed on the east coast they use the term “crunchy” which is derogatory for anyone trying to better their lives outside the system. On the West Coast this is seen as “cool”. You are trying to improve your lot in life.

    So there is a perception thing going on here – in closer proximity to DC you are accepted if you go with the flow, you’re not if you don’t. It’s thought manifesting a certain direction.

    Your list of links doesn’t address the original question you had; none of this is working out for you, how do you make it work. I know that as you move up the West Coast there are more communities striving to make a difference in the way they live. Jane’s walk I think is an example of something relatively small that makes a difference over time, bringing everyone together for a democratic discussion of what works and what doesn’t. For you right now, maybe it’s time for a change of venue. I would suggest moving to one of those wonderfully “crunchy” communities along the west coast of Canada but I’m not sure you can do this without some kind of work permit or a barrel full of money to get across the border.

    It seems to me these systems need broad community support or they don’t work, and it sounds like you want to live this life but don’t have the community to support it.

    So… maybe you need to consider yourself a consultant for the way of life you want to live, to move the community in that direction. And maybe it’s not ending money in the short term, it’s using the shorter term goals and consulting on those. You are certainly knowledgeable about these things – and some communities will pay for those who can help them get there. Just not all at once!

    I’m just brainstorming to try and help you find a new path… maybe something here will resonate with you. It doesn’t have to be a path where you sacrifice your principles. Smile

    One question I had from your article – how is a credit union different from a government-run bank? Wouldn’t an arms-length entity be more trustworthy than a politically-based (and motivated) one?

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  85. #85 spedman
    May 29, 2011 pm31 9:37 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xd_zkMEgkI the proper way to run society Silly Silly Silly

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  86. #86 Stick
    May 30, 2011 pm31 12:07 am

    SaLuSa 30-May-2011

    Throughout the world the shift in consciousness continues to grow, and it is galvanising more and more people into action. There is a realisation that you are able to have a say in how your lives are led. Hitherto you have given virtually all of your authority to your leaders, and it is clear that their decisions are rarely in line with your real needs. In fact it is often the opposite, and you are ignored whilst they fulfil their own political agendas. However, you are beginning to see the way you have been misled and manipulated, and there is a growing dissatisfaction with them. Now it is becoming clear to you that you have your own divine rights that you can take back. As a result that energy is pushing for change and it cannot be ignored for much longer. The Law of Attraction allows for your pleas to be answered, and you can be sure that additional energies will be added to yours. Along with the requirements of Mother Earth, it is causing a shift that strengthens those that are on the verge of taking place. The Earth is alive with activity that is leading to a finale that will take you rapidly to Ascension. Whether small groups or large it makes no difference, as eventually it becomes a collective effort that carries great potential. So keep up your good work, as it is helping hasten the end of the ability of the dark Ones to carry on as before.

    The Galactic Federation is continuing to work hard to ensure that our allies are well supported, so that they will soon achieve a major breakthrough. The opposition to us is enormous, as we carry the authority to introduce changes that will remodel the way business is done. It must be seen to operate with the people’s interest at heart, and be open in its dealings. Small is going to be beautiful and more easily managed and controlled. Bear in mind that with the new technologies much of what you find necessary now, will no longer be required. Do not worry about personal fortunes as after the changes have taken place, everyone will be cared for and wealth will have been spread more fairly. You will become self-sufficient, and bartering will come back as the money systems will eventually be no longer required.

    Everything that you tend to rely on will change for the better, and it will largely come about as a result of the worldwide distribution of technologies to provide all the essentials you need. Also, as you progress so the whole quality of life will improve, and it will give you your first taste of what it will be like once you ascend. It will be a remarkably quick change from your present day-to-day life, and it will release you from the draconian controls that you are presently placed under. Bear in mind that we will have joined you to participate in such events, and we shall help guide you along the spiritual path that was intended for you all. Ascension is of course the main focus, and we will make sure that you are in a position to go along with it. That is our mission and sworn duty to see that you and Mother Earth safely reach your goal, and it shall come to pass.

    Although your victory is assured, it is just as essential that you keep focussed upon Ascension. By doing that you can help make the way forward somewhat smoother and with less chaos. You have the collective power to make such a difference, and simply need to act in unison and continue bringing the Light to Earth. You have already been doing so, and you can take great credit for having overcome the attempts of the dark Ones to take control over you to prevent Ascension. So do not let up in your endeavours to work with the Light, as it is your weapon of love that knows no equal to the power that it carries. Each day there are almost certain to be opportunities to help your fellow travellers, even if it is only a smile or a kind word. You would be surprised to know how much it can light up another’s world.

    These are also the times that as the consciousness levels rise you can speak your truth about Ascension, as many have heard of 2012 but have little understanding of what it means. They will not need chapter and verse but knowing of the promise of peace and a Golden Age, will uplift their hopes and place their focus where fear for the future can be overcome. We are thankful that the Internet is still relatively free from controls, allowing people the opportunity of free speech. It is a minefield of choice and different opinions including deliberate misinformation, so it calls for discretion and good sense, as no sources of Light will be involved in creating fear. If something does not sound right to you, leave it alone until you can make a firm decision.

    When you become aware of yourself as a Spiritual Being life on Earth can become a beautiful experience, even allowing for the negative aspects and the continual battle to survive. Each challenge successfully dealt with hones your spiritual abilities and places them on a higher level. It then becomes easier to face even sterner challenges and rise above them. Your evolution is the whole purpose of your incarnations in duality, and there is little that can compare with the value of such experiences. Do not doubt for one moment that you volunteered for life on Earth for such reasons. Your reward is to experience the end of the final cycle of duality, and a lifting up to realms that can only be described as absolute heaven.

    The fact that some souls can leave their bodies at will and visit the higher dimensions means that they can relate their findings to you. Sometimes they glimpse the levels of Light that you will rise to, and you will find that they describe perfect beauty, harmony and peace. Naturally there are closer levels to Earth such as the astral regions that are not on such a high vibration. Even so what you call the Summerland is an indication of what to expect. The 3rd dimension is not your real home, and that is why deep down you yearn to return to the higher dimensions. You instinctively know that there is more to life than what you are experiencing now.

    I am SaLuSa from Sirius, and I know that in the not too distant future we of the Galactic Federation will become accepted and freely mix with you. It will be the most natural development in our relationship, as we have been together many times before. Thousands of years ago we viewed the demise of your last civilisation – the Atlantean’s, but this time we shall celebrate your success together.

    Thank you SaLuSa.
    Mike Quinsey.

    http://youtu.be/Xgcxd9wtXUE
    ~ChildrenOfTheRevolution777—————————–Moon Yin Yang Moon

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  87. #87 Kellia
    May 30, 2011 pm31 2:00 am

    Dreamwalker,

    I don’t know all the technical differences between a bank and a CU. But I know that CU’s require their members to have something in common. Employees in the same company or industry. I belong to one and since I was not an employee of a certain company, they made a donation of $5 to a children’s charity in my name and that did it.

    CUs by law can only charge 15% interest on their credit cards. Sen. Sanders tried to get Congress to adopt that ceiling for banks and he got no where.

    Would you please send me your email address as there is something I would like to discuss with you privately. If you do not wish to broadcast it on this list, simply send it to theendofmoney[at]gmail.com

    Thanks.

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  88. #88 LauraTyco
    May 30, 2011 pm31 6:06 am

    MAY 30, 2011

    Greetings dear ones. We are here once again to tell you of the great light we see flowing ever more powerfully from your earth. You are doing a fine job of adding light to the darkness of the old energy. It may seem as if there is nothing being changed, as if the world is instead growing worse because of all the chaos you see, but we can assure you that the chaos is a part of the cleansing and clearing process.

    It is time for the many to re-evaluate their priorities and move forward. Everyone is being given the opportunity at this time to change; to change rigid ways of seeing and being and doing, and in the process release themselves from the old beliefs that have held them in bondage to “this is the way we have always done it, so this is how things must be done”.

    Many of those who have lost everything are now experiencing a void. Having lost everything that they depended upon to define themselves and their lives they now find themselves floating in a space of “no-thing-ness”- a psychological void . The human mind has a difficult time computing within this void because it works with what it knows. You call it shock and it is; the shock of suddenly finding that everything you held as the definition of who you are has suddenly disappeared or changed. Those who take advantage of these experiences to grow and evolve will be richly rewarded by a leap into deeper and truer states of consciousness. Those who simply hold to the old and and place all their effort in to recreating their lives exactly as they have always been, will find that this doesn’t work quite as they hoped. One cannot go back, these are not physical experiences, but spiritual ones. You are graduating as individuals and as groups. Events may seem harsh, but it is the only way that many can learn to change their thinking and their belief systems. All is on track. Send white light to those dear ones suffering the shock of losing so much for the Light contains within it all the colors and energies of healing and change as needed for each individual.

    We continue to say that you are doing a fine job in spite of how it may seem, and add that you will soon see us making an appearance. Time is drawing short for disclosure of the many Galactic Groups ready to help earth ascend physically as well as spiritually. Many of you already see and know of us, but there are also many who will respond with great denial and fear. If you can gently help those who do not believe in us, to have at least an idea that there may be benevolent beings from other planets, this will plant a seed within them and when disclosure happens, they will not go into as much fear. The darker elements are still working to cause fear among you with regard to the presence of those from other planets.

    We say to you dear ones, that you will soon see more earth changes, which are a necessary part of Gaia’s ascension process. She is trying to release pressures in areas that need to flow more easily with the sacred energies she is bringing in.

    There are many new energies flowing into earth at this time; high frequency energies resonating with light and love, energies that have not been able to express on earth before this time because of earth’s density. These new energies are helping to awaken even the most un-evolved states of consciousness by virtue of their highly resonating light frequencies. As energy surrounds the individual, it dissolves and lifts those denser energies present within the individual’s energy field by virtue of the nature of Light to illumine. New ideas and information are now coming to many and are not simply from the individuals themselves as they believe, but are coming from the higher realms on these new currents of light energy. These new frequencies were heretofore unable to enter in to the heavy three dimensional energy. Most cannot see these things we speak of, but can feel them, so be open and aware that the Light is now manifesting as new ideas and new ways of living in the world. This is evolution dear ones, and the more light entering, the more higher and better ways are able to manifest. Keep the way open for more to come, for Grace is infinite. That is what we are seeing.

    Honor the seemingly radical changes within your own thinking; be open and do not dismiss them as nothing. Many are so afraid to let go of what they have been taught and believed from childhood, and yet now find themselves being guided to open up to deeper, different, and a totally new awareness. This is evolution dear ones. Evolution is not something that happened eons ago and is finished; you are just beginning. It has taken mankind this long to get to where it can move into the higher frequencies already available to many on other planets. We cannot emphasize enough the importance of letting go of all concepts and beliefs that are old and stale and no longer resonate with you regardless of any judgements or criticisms you may receive from those around you still stuck in those same rigid belief systems.

    This is one of the purposes of these dramatic weather patterns; these events serve to remove rigidity and act to force open an entry to the new. By new we do not mean everything different from the old ways; families, friends, pets, and the individual choices one enjoys, but we do mean new in terms of experiencing these things from a level of truth and awareness. Higher ways of seeing, knowing, and believing are based upon a realization of the Oneness of all life which then manifests as unconditional love and compassion. Rigidity, doctrine, structure, and their accompanying rules are no part of the Divine; these things are man’s interpretation of truth based on unevolved concepts and beliefs about truth.

    All that is real flows with a loving energy and the gentle movement of peace, love, and light. Everything carries a frequency, everything is energy. In the higher realms music, color, sounds, all vibrate with flowing peaceful and beautiful energy. So much that comes under the heading of music on earth is harsh and not uplifting. The energy of anything can flow in the high frequencies of light and love (which is nearer to Source energy), or descend to the lower, slower, and heavier, which is the story of earth and mankind in their journey toward enlightenment. You as a people, are now again moving upward after being in very heavy, dense energy.

    You are doing a fine job even if it does not seem to be that way. Once an individual chooses to spiritually evolve, the “train leaves the station”. All of mankind is feeling the new, even though some respond more easily than others. All of you reading this have chosen to be on earth at this powerful time and even if you do not realize it, are moving toward the goal. Never be afraid of any appearances for the truth is that nothing can ever separate you from your own Divine Selfhood whether on earth or off. Rest in that.

    We are the Arcturian Group.

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  89. #89 Steffie
    May 30, 2011 pm31 9:43 am

    Thanks Honeybee #56 – nope, as with Gunner, I can’t watch youtube at all. I’m on very limited bandwidth, which is ridiculously expensive. Youtube chews up bandwidth, so I simply can’t afford to watch any of it. Thanks for the clarification x

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  90. #90 Steffie
    May 30, 2011 pm31 9:47 am

    Kellia #66 – Yes, I absolutely agree, money in itself is nasty, filthy, negative stuff. My view of it is that it is merely a very necessary TOOL – a form of energy, that we exchange for goods or services. One of the biggest problems is that we have all been programmed to want money, when it is not actually the money that we want, but the end product… whatever it is that we would choose to exchange it for (if we had it).

    Like Laurinda, I have also lived with great financial abundance, but mostly with zero, zip, nada… and I had to learn to adjust my perspective on it. There is no point in hating the stuff either – it’s just bits of paper, or metal, with different colours and words printed on it – it has absolutely no intrinsic value, but it is used, universally, as a tool of exchange.

    If humanity could learn to use the gifts we each have, and exchange THOSE with others, then we would have no more need for money. But as long as the majority of the world’s population is focused on money as the end objective, and not merely as the means, this won’t work.

    But the end-of-money movement has started, in tiny little communities – it is up to all of US to change the way we work and live… it’s the 100th monkey thing – the rest will eventually catch on, but WE are the only ones who can make this change happen. And it’s also not going to happen overnight, it’s a long term thing. I know that none of this resolves any of our immediate issues, but if we can change our perspectives, our thoughts and our actions around money, it WILL happen.

    I know this all sounds very simplistic, compared to your more academic, researched writings on the subject, and it really isn’t meant to be flippant, but it’s just my 2 cents’ worth Smile

    and Kellia #78 – I would never have posted it if it was about a bible-based government!!! Shock Shock Shock read it carefully first, then judge Smile

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  91. #91 spedman
    May 30, 2011 pm31 11:25 am

    just gonna weigh in on the money thing. i know i have said this before but i think it’s something that needs to be said again and that is the money thing will not end also until we have rid the world of the meaningless jobs….. like digging ditches and taking trash to a dump. yes there are those that are happy in their work. but no one grows up thinking “man i cant wait to get out of school and go to work at the dump” and if a free of money society exist where in people can do the work they want. then no one will strive for such things. i agree that it’s gonna take a long time to achieve this but it’s the transitional aspect that will make it take so long. you just cant do it overnight like steffie said. for me i have always thought it will take technology from the robotics industry to achieve this. kinda like the movie I ROBOT starring will smith. people might think this is the lazy mans way out however i disagree because of what i said earlier about no one wanting to strive for meaningless jobs. and by meaningless i mean something that really doesn’t let you expand your thoughts. i mean for real honestly how long do you think it would take a person to master backing a truck up and pushing a button or two to let the truck dump the trash???? it’s not exactly rocket science folks. Smile ok that’s my two cents worth. Smile

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  92. #92 Steffie
    May 30, 2011 pm31 11:39 am

    new message is up… see y’all flipside Laugh

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  93. #93 Kellia
    May 30, 2011 pm31 11:40 am

    Steffie #91

    I don’t think your attitude toward the end of money is simplistic at all. It goes right to the point.

    I do the researched academic stuff, partially because that is who I am, but partially because I think that to wake people up you have to show them that the monetary system cannot work, by its own terms to meet the needs of all the people.

    My prime example being the fact that any competition creates losers. McDonald’s recently demonstrated this nicely for me with its National Hiring Day. A roughly 6% hiring rate!

    All that “work hard and lay by the rules and you will succeed is a lot of horse hockey.” If you are a member of the elite, you don’t have to work hard and play by the rules as the career of George W, Bush amply demonstrates. If you are not a member of the elite, you can work hard and play by the rules and still end up with nothing.

    My prospective father-in-law is 71. He has worked since he was 12. He built up a nice retirement fund from a career with ATT. His 401k was basically destroyed by the Enron and WorldCom scandals and he is working a low paid night job and afraid he will soon be laid off! He and his wife, who is on Social Security, are talking about selling their how and moving to a trailer park in a cheaper county. They live in Texas. Oh, BTW he’s a Republican conservative “patriotic” American. His other son is career military.

    “But as long as the majority of the world’s population is focused on money as the end objective, and not merely as the means, this won’t work.”

    You are absolutely correct! But people are focused on money as an end objective instead of a means because it has become the meta tool, by which all other forms of tools are obtained.

    Transition to a money-free way of life is a thorny issue, especially in view of the Law of Attraction. If today’s society requires money to get the resources we need to live, people will want money. The Law of Attraction will pull money to those who want it most. If people keep wanting money, money will persist. If people want to get rid of money, as I do, they end up with very little and eventually don’t have the personal energy to manifest it at all. It is too much work for something you know in your heart of hearts you want to get rid of. I am in that situation now.

    The executive producer of the Radio show I contribute to wrote to me last night expressing doubts about the interview I just sent her. This is not unusual between reporters and editors, and I have had this problem with this particular editor before. It’s a women’s show and she is into exposing gender differences and I an into showing women leaders in all fields and pointing out areas where gender differences are or can be minimized. We will eventually work out the problem, as we have done in the past. But clearly it will not be done, and therefor she won’t pay, until past the time that our rent is due.

    Not that the payment would have even covered half the rent but every little bit helps. In other words, this was not the time to have this kind of disagreement, but it seems to be going along with everything else that is hassling my life right now.

    Now we are down to hoping that someone buys my electronic piano and my fiance’s parents sends birthday money (His birthday is June 2nd) in time. As I said before, his parents have money hassles of their own so they may not send much.

    Even if they do, that buys us only one more month to make some thing work. And there are the two credit cards, one due at on the 8th and the other one the 20th, We have needed credit to buy groceries. And things like keeping the lights and the Internet on.

    If I have to really want money to attract it, that appears to me to be going against my mission to promote the idea that society can function without the stuff. If I have money to survive but not my mission in life, what the hell am I here for? If I manage to become a financial success promoting the end of money through lectures and the book I am working on, many people will see me as a hypocrite leading the sheeple in a direction that is good for me but not for them. That won’t advance the mission. How would I get the true message out in all that static? But if I die destitute, I become the object lesson in how one has to be “realistic” and keep an eye on the money.

    Suggestions, anyone?

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