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Message from SaLuSa for 11 July 2011

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    SaLuSa 11- July-2011

    As promised the cobwebs of deceit and falsehood are gradually being cleared away, and each day the revelations grow. They show how the authorities have been corrupted, and the necessity to remove all of those involved. If you are ever to establish an honest and trustworthy establishment, it is obviously necessary to replace each person with those that are known to be right for the times you are in. Many of you have been groomed for such an occasion, and if you are not already working for the Light your time will soon come. We invite everyone to help in whatever way they can, even if only to send out Love and Light. Your contribution does not have to be special, as long as it comes from the heart and soul. As the Collective of Humanity you are in fact doing enormously well, and so the energy continues to grow exponentially.

    We see that people are no longer afraid of talking their truth, and confidence grows as each day takes you nearer to the commencement of a series of major events. As you must realise the waiting has to stop sooner or later, as the pressure upon the dark Ones is creating opportunities for our allies to move on. There comes a time when people have to bow down to the conditions around them, and concede that they no longer hold the power. Our desire is to signal the start of disclosure, so that the truth can be released as to the presence of our spacecraft, and then logically the personnel who operate them. You also need to be aware of the many contacts we have made, with both your political and military representatives for peaceful reasons. There will be many questions asked when it is revealed how many times we have attempted to bring world peace into being.

    Making contact with you is a most natural development as part of your growth. You have long participated in conquering Space, and it is now time to meet your Space family. You cannot in fact venture any further than you do now, as there is no way that you will be allowed to take your weaponry outside of your Earths atmosphere. Enlightened Man will be able to do so, and indeed you shall join us in outer space. Our craft are not just for transporting us around, but are self contained for distant travels even to other Universes. Some of them have already been stationed near your Earth for about 50 years. We come and go at our leisure in smaller craft intended to travel in your atmosphere, and these are the ones you most frequently see.

    You are about to make a quantum leap into the future, and we are here to ensure it is a success. By now you should have a pretty good idea what it entails, but nevertheless we know it will still surprise you. Your rapid rise from out of the darkness into the Light is by no means complete, but all of the time you work on your own enlightenment you are accelerating the changes. Peace and contentment can be experienced by some individuals, but the goal is to lift up everyone in preparation for Ascension. Many paths lead to it, and they allow for each individuals own vision of how it will manifest. It does not matter what you believe now, except that you are ready for the great day when all will be played out as told you.

    The confidence of the dark Ones is fading fast as they can no longer command the obedience of their minions. Some are awakening to the Light within and making dramatic changes in their lives. That is not unexpected as many have been forced to work with them, and often there seems to be no way out. That is all changing and our allies are taking advantage of any weakness in the ability of the dark Ones to control their future. The great societies that the dark Ones have infiltrated will identify them and they will be discharged of their responsibilities. In this respect your United Nations is no exception. Secrecy cannot be maintained under our watchful eye, and there are literally no hiding places that we are unaware of. In fact there are none that are impregnable, and we have the means to remove those individuals that continue to be a danger to the population. Once the Divine Plan commences there will be much activity in many places of authority such as the Pentagon.

    We ourselves sometimes tire of the continual bickering that goes on between your political parties. There will be none of that in future as there will be a different system that makes for quick decisions in the best interests of everyone. There will be no hidden agendas, and all dealings will be made known so that people can have full knowledge of what is happening. We do not indulge in politics but have our Councils that are truly representative of all opinions. We have total trust in their enlightened decisions because there is no question of self-interest being involved. Your political systems are corrupt and even ignore your own Laws and Statutes. They had to fail, as they would in any event have imploded upon themselves. It could have been so different but you did not have sufficient people of the Light, to maintain the levels you needed for a fair and just society.

    However, you have learnt a lot from being in duality, and it has strengthened your ability to withstand the negative energies. If you had not, it is doubtful that you could have reversed the trends towards self-destruction. Now you have the promise of changes that will provide a new life, which by comparison to your present one will be nothing short of heavenly and blissful. Peace is settling upon Earth regardless of what you think, and the days of wars are almost over. Your fears are therefore being answered, and you can concentrate on the happy future that is rising up before you.

    Mother Earth quietly continues with her own cleansing, which is far from complete. Some major changes are being held back, and best allowed to proceed when we are with you and can openly monitor and control them. There is not as some believe the intent to destroy parts of the Earth, with the consequent death of many people. It is quite the opposite, and our endeavours will ensure that only those who arranged to leave the Earth before Ascension will do so.

    I am SaLuSa from Sirius, and pleased once more to have had the opportunity to enlighten you as to our present activities.

    Thank you SaLuSa.

    Mike Quinsey.

157 Comments
  1. #1 sassy123456
    July 11, 2011 am31 7:38 am

    Admiral- you’re welcome

    Gunner- all the busses smell like pee. Still in training.

    dreamwalker- I have just been busy. Trying to play catch up.

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  2. #2 Gunner
    July 11, 2011 am31 7:38 am

    http://www.visionsofheaven.com

    Message from the Angels

    My dear friends, we love you so very much.

    Celebrate your freedom dear ones, for you are free to love and free to choose how to perceive every single situation in your life. You may not feel free at times. Your conditioning and beliefs may bias you to perceive a situation as negative or disagreeable, when in fact it just is what it is. When you see an angry child for example, many of you would have compassion. Some of you would privately giggle at the seriousness of their tantrum. Some of you would come unglued and yell back. Some of you would walk away in disgust. Some of you would pick them up, hug them, and then if all else failed firmly walk them to their room for some time to calm down. And each of these responses is a choice, although you ma not know it at the time. Each of these responses shows you how you feel about your own upsets, angers , and frustrations in life. Do you take your own anger so seriously that it disturbs you, or do you simply say, “Oh my, I’m so upset! Let me give myself some love, cool down, and then figure out what to do about this situation.” For it is how you treat yourself that dictates how you will react to others.

    Suppose you find yourself in the middle of the month without any certainty that you will be able to pay the bills at the end of the month. Again, you have choices in terms of how you will perceive the situation. You are free! Some of you will say, “That’s alright, I always manage to come out alright. God is with me.” Some of you will frantically do your balance sheets in an effort to feel in control. Some of you will get angry and throw tantrums. Some of you will fret and worry in spite of knowing everything turns out ok each month. Again, each reaction tells you a lot about yourself. Do you have faith? What did you learn about responsibility?

    Look at each life situation you find yourself in dear ones. Look at your reactions to it. What can you learn about yourself? Can you choose to find more faith, more love, and more true responsibility – the ability to respond with kindness and peace? If you can dear ones, you will find that things you once considered to be challenges are not so challenging. Situations you once considered to be upsetting, simply exist. The world can go on with its tougher lessons, but you can choose peace. You can choose prosperity of the heart. You can choose, always and forevermore, the truth of your loving hearts.

    God bless you! We love you so very much.
    – The Angels

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  3. #3 Iris Ascending
    July 11, 2011 am31 8:00 am

    PhysOrg/Other Topics/Metaphysical/061111/5/xxxxxxxxxx
    Post on physorg intranet from June, 11th. I am not saying I believe this, I am just putting this out there. This is probably disinformation….
    ==========================================================
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    Mike Quincey Exposed as CIA Disinformation Operative?

    Mike Quincey who channels Salusa of the Galactic Federation of Light has allegedly been exposed as a fraud by hackers. The group of hackers going by the name ‘TBTAnon’ is a loose knit world wide group who have only been known to be involved in soft targeting of politicians, government agencies and corporations in an attempt to expose institutional and business corruption. They also helped exposing the Global Warming emails that were released last year.

    Supposedly TBTAnon has hacked into Mike Quincey’s personal computer and found several emails between him and the CIA. The emails supposedly show Quincey getting his marching orders from the CIA about what to post as channeled messages from Salusa. There are said to also be personal emails showing Mike Quincey laughing and showing pleasure and his deception of those who believe his channeled messages are genuine. The motive? To distract followers from the truth and give them a false sense of hope as long as possible by stringing them along for as long as possible so attention is not given to the real world problems at hand.

    It was gathered that this operation was only to last 2 years. But since the messages have grown in popularity, Mike’s contract with the CIA was extended until 2014.

    TBTAnon has stated they will make public the most interesting 10 emails discovered on Quincey’s computer.

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  4. #4 Laurinda
    July 11, 2011 am31 8:34 am

    Iris Ascending: I have seen your name here maybe once awhile ago. Maybe you are active over in the chat room, but I don’t hang there, so I wouldn’t know. I would like to know WHERE you received this info about Mike, and your motive in posting it here. “psyorg intranet?” Intranet implies a private internal network behind a firewall. How is it YOU have access to this?

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  5. #5 Admiral2012here
    July 11, 2011 am31 8:37 am

    …Iris Ascending, is there a link where you found that info? I Googled TBTAnon and nothing comes up. I even added Mike Quinsey with TBTAnon and nothing. I also notice they spelled Mike “Quinsey” as Quincey.

    …yes, I believe you are correct in that this is disinfo as Quinsey and SaLaSa has been attacked before

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  6. #6 dreamwalker
    July 11, 2011 am31 8:42 am

    #3 For what it’s worth (and I’m not trying to bolster the argument one way or the other) I’ve been a little uneasy about Quinsey’s messages.

    Does anyone here know what mind-control tactics are known to be in use at this time? It would be worth knowing what these are.

    For example, messages that talk about hierarchy and controlling your own thoughts… Hierarchy is a very 3-d/human notion that in my opinion goes against the Law of One. Laurinda posted a good question about this the other day. All I can say is that with the beings I talk to, the feeling I get from them is that we are all equals with them. Some people may think we are superior or lesser than they but this is simply not what I feel from them. “We are one” by definition means there is no hierarchy.

    With regards to controlling our own thoughts, it is true that you can improve your outlook in life by emphasizing the positive aspects of this. You can also use this to control your own timeline. But to emphasize ignorance of the “negative” aspects of your life to me borders on mind-control. I.e. they don’t have to DO anything… you’re doing it for them!

    I’ll have to admit ignorance of mind-control tactics in general. There’s probably nothing to this and it’s my ego-fear kicking in. But I feel looking at this in a rational way is a worthwhile exercise even if it’s incorrect thinking. It’s better to KNOW than to guess.

    I am also reacting to things that others have said about these messages that have got me thinking… so I don’t think it’s just me. I do know we have a few trained psychologists in our group who may understand these methods better than I do.

    I expect the same level of discernment could be extended to Nidle and others (including myself!). All I’m advocating here is a process of rational thought.

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  7. #7 dreamwalker
    July 11, 2011 am31 8:48 am

    #5 good sleuthing Admiral Smile

    The only thing I came up with was TBT = “text based theater” so perhaps it’s just a fear campaign from a drama club.

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  8. #8 dreamwalker
    July 11, 2011 am31 9:12 am
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  9. #9 connorb123
    July 11, 2011 am31 9:12 am

    lol. it would be so ironic if it was the government telling us not to get brainwashed by them, and they r brainwashing us in the process! but if this is fake, remember there is still one truth, no matter what!

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  10. #10 Laurinda
    July 11, 2011 am31 9:22 am

    I see all of this as merely distraction from the planetary tyranny of the UN’s Agenda 21 and the globalists’ new carbon taxes/fake “GREEN” agenda. Yes, the messages once said that we would be amazed/shocked at all that would transpire in 2011—well, we are certainly well on our way, now aren’t we?! Question

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  11. #11 dreamwalker
    July 11, 2011 am31 9:31 am

    All I can say is… strap on your tinfoil hats, everyone!

    I find television very educating.
    Every time somebody turns on the set,
    I go into the other room and read a book.

    He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don’t let that fool you. He really is an idiot.

    -Groucho Marx

    Laugh Silly Laugh Silly Laugh Silly

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  12. #12 Admiral2012here
    July 11, 2011 am31 9:41 am

    …Well alot of Youtubes are popping up from a group called Anonymous…and I was wondering who they are…so this is who they are

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcDdNPnqjCQ

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  13. #13 Admiral2012here
    July 11, 2011 am31 9:44 am

    ANONYMOUS: OPERATION BOHEMIAN GROVE JULY 13TH

    PEACEFUL RESISTANCE
    STOP THE MADNESS
    WE ARE MANY
    AND THE TRUTH SHALL PREVAIL

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xud8zph5p1A

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  14. #14 Laurinda
    July 11, 2011 am31 9:51 am

    Yup, the globalists next calendar date is Friday July 15th—from their Bilderberg meeting in Switzerland in June–to Northern California in Bohemia Grove. Yes, the private playland for US Presidents and other “leaders in govt. and heads of huge corporations. What will it take to wake AMERIKA up??? Alex Jones has actual video footage of some of the goings on there….

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  15. #15 Admiral2012here
    July 11, 2011 am31 9:59 am

    THE BOHEMIAN GROVE EXPOSED

    George Bush, John Kerry, David Gergen, and many others have admitted their membership of the Skull and Bones AKA the Bohemian Grove. However, they say it’s a secret and they can’t talk about it. These people get together to take part in bizarre rituals worshipping a 40 foot stone owl. THIS IS FACT! Alex Jones infiltrated on the Bohemian Grove and made a documentary called “Dark Secrets: Inside Bohemian Grove” If you are interested for more details, I suggest you watch this film

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2E_HP97Rzc

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  16. #16 Laurinda
    July 11, 2011 am31 10:05 am

    These attendees/Satanists LOVE their privacy…they do NOT want the general public to know about the male porn stars and prostitutes they fly in from LA and SF to service them….Yeah, and these are our “leaders”???? They did the very same thing in Switzerland….there though, they flaunt this activity….

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  17. #17 Admiral2012here
    July 11, 2011 am31 10:09 am

    ANONYMOUS: “THE PLAN” IS NOW LIVE. PHASE 1: INITIATED. WAR AGAINST THE SYSTEM

    Become a member and join us as we initiate a movement for real change.

    “The Plan” 1 year. 3 phases. A world of change.
    Share this message with everyone you can.

    PHASE 1: Better yourself. Spread the message. Be the message.

    *Educate yourself on the depths of the system, the functions put it place to inhibit true freedom as well as the mechanisms within the system that motivate the masses to subconsciously accept giving up those freedoms. The structures within the system that promote division within the people of the countries of this world and the injustices that are placed upon the people.

    *Spread the message. Share this video and the website with everyone you can. Make your own videos, songs, art, graffiti etc… spreading the word that we are here, the movement is taking hold. Expect us.

    *Learn ways that will allow you to break free from the system. Start small and implement them in your daily lives. This will be implemented as a focus of Phase 2 as well, escalating what you have learned.

    *ANON hackers – begin supporting the movement. This is a calling to all of you for the aid of this movement. Low-priority targets are your engagement. Assist with the movement and spread the message of “The Plan”.

    The resistance is here.
    Expect us

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_9T1SPJXRI

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  18. #18 Admiral2012here
    July 11, 2011 am31 10:44 am

    WHAT ARE WE CAPABLE OF – THIS IS ANONYMOUS!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP9q61Fjlqo

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  19. #19 Robin.
    July 11, 2011 am31 10:45 am

    SaLuSa//Quinsey..

    To my mind (& Soul) this is one of the best messages yet.. not making excuses any longer for potentially ‘when’ disclosure is or is not ‘due’.. but simply stating that the dark is in the process of imploding AND being removed!

    (Bear in mind that many of the best ‘hackers’ are subsequently EMPLOYED BY the CIA, Facebook, Google et all!).

    It is also likely is it not, that as the dark runs out of ‘ploys’ and ‘tricks’, it then, in it’s final desperation, begins to attack and try to discredit that which speaks only of the direct Truth?

    This also ties in nicely with a snip from Blossom’s latest (I find it almost beyond credibility that SHE is a CIA ‘operative’.. but you never know.. however, if she is, she isn’t in my opinion doing a very good job of it, Bless Her!):

    Q). Ok.. delving deeper then.. How does this fall into place regarding that which is to take place in 2012 (or not)? As we have spoken of.. scenario after scenario has been put out there.. is the DIVINE PLAN not something that is definitely going to happen.. anyway.. regardless of any of our thoughts?

    A). That is indeed a beneficial question. The DIVINE plan was put into place because it is the desire of many of you that it shall be so. We do not mean necessarily.. your desire in the last decade of this life time you are experiencing. We mean as a collective consciousness of LOVE over eons upon eons of your existence.

    This human form.. this planet Earth.. as you know.. was/is part of an experiment. What has taken place with in it took many that had designed it.. by surprise.. for the free will factor ‘created’ a monster.. that had not been accounted for. This monster overshadowed the beauty that was created and yet slowly now.. the monster has had it’s day and as with all things when not fed.. is losing it’s life force.

    It was discussed and devised by ‘your consciousness’.. all of you who are part of the plan at this time.. that the DIVINE plan of Ascension would be the way to bring the Earth Planet out of this darkness that was created and move it into one of Light.. once again.

    So you see.. this DIVINE plan was indeed created by you.. many moons ago. All you are doing now is going about it’s creation at the point agreed for the betterment of all. ALL that is taking place now and in the days to come to move into the Golden Age has already been created by you.. your thoughts are recalling this and bringing it about.

    ~~~

    So CIA or no CIA; Quinsey or no Quincey..
    (Are many ‘hackers’ also alphabetically illiterate?)

    “..the monster HAS had it’s day..”

    Know This!

    In Light!

    Smile

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  20. #20 rawanderer
    July 11, 2011 am31 10:48 am

    Hello everyone! Grin How are we all doing on this fine day? I enjoyed SaLuSa’s message today, as I always enjoy reading his words. I don’t think Mike Quinsey is CIA affiliated, that article simply didn’t resonate with me. However, like Dreamwalker said discernment is needed when reading any channeled message be that Quinsey’s, Nidle’s, or even Dreamwalker’s, SunRay’s and mine. That being said….

    I have begun posting some of my channeled messages in video form, if anybody cares to check out the latest,

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B51tNzXGrNg&feature=channel_video_title

    I Love you all so much, we are in the time of Ascension! Enjoy it!! Grin In Love Heart Heart Peace Peace Yin Yang Yin Yang

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  21. #21 Laurinda
    July 11, 2011 am31 10:53 am

    I disagree with you Robin. The monster is NOW shifting into a higher gear here in AMERIKA. Its fasten the ol seatbelts time here….maybe the sleeping ones will finally wake up before it is too late….

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  22. #22 dreamwalker
    July 11, 2011 am31 10:53 am

    I ran across this link with regards to mind control. I’m not saying anything by posting it, just food for thought.

    Sun

    http://www.factnet.org/coercivemindcontrol.html

    Coercive Mind Control Tactics

    Terminology note: Today Mind control or brainwashing in academia is commonly referred to as coercive persuasion, coercive psychological systems or coercive influence. The short description below comes from Dr. Margaret Singer professor emeritus at the University of California at Berkeley the acknowledged leading authority in the world on mind control and cults.

    a short overview

    Coercion is defined by the American Heritage Dictionary as:

    To force to act or think in a certain manner

    To dominate, restrain, or control by force

    To bring about by force.

    Coercive psychological systems are behavioral change programs which use psychological force in a coercive way to cause the learning and adoption of an ideology or designated set of beliefs, ideas, attitudes, or behaviors. The essential strategy used by the operators of these programs is to systematically select, sequence and coordinate many different types of coercive influence, anxiety and stress-producing tactics over continuous periods of time.

    In such a program the subject is forced to adapt in a series of tiny “invisible” steps. Each tiny step is designed to be sufficiently small so the subjects will not notice the changes in themselves or identify the coercive nature of the processes being used. The subjects of these tactics do not become aware of the hidden organizational purpose of the coercive psychological program until much later, if ever. These tactics are usually applied in a group setting by well intentioned but deceived “friends and allies” of the victim. This keeps the victim from putting up the ego defenses we normally maintain in known adversarial situations.

    The coercive psychological influence of these programs aim to overcome the individual’s critical thinking abilities and free will – apart from any appeal to informed judgment. Victims gradually lose their ability to make independent decisions and exercise informed consent. Their critical thinking, defenses, cognitive processes, values, ideas, attitudes, conduct and ability to reason are undermined by a technological process rather than by meaningful free choice, rationality, or the inherent merit or value of the ideas or propositions being presented.

    How Do They Work?

    The tactics used to create undue psychological and social influence, often by means involving anxiety and stress, fall into seven main categories.

    TACTIC 1

    Increase suggestibility and “soften up” the individual through specific hypnotic or other suggestibility-increasing techniques such as:Extended audio, visual, verbal, or tactile fixation drills, Excessive exact repetition of routine activities, Sleep restriction and/or Nutritional restriction.

    TACTIC 2

    Establish control over the person’s social environment, time and sources of social support by a system of often-excessive rewards and punishments. Social isolation is promoted. Contact with family and friends is abridged, as is contact with persons who do not share group-approved attitudes. Economic and other dependence on the group is fostered.

    TACTIC 3

    Prohibit disconfirming information and non supporting opinions in group communication. Rules exist about permissible topics to discuss with outsiders. Communication is highly controlled. An “in-group” language is usually constructed.

    TACTIC 4

    Make the person re-evaluate the most central aspects of his or her experience of self and prior conduct in negative ways. Efforts are designed to destabilize and undermine the subject’s basic consciousness, reality awareness, world view, emotional control and defense mechanisms. The subject is guided to reinterpret his or her life’s history and adopt a new version of causality.

    TACTIC 5

    Create a sense of powerlessness by subjecting the person to intense and frequent actions and situations which undermine the person’s confidence in himself and his judgment.

    TACTIC 6

    Create strong aversive emotional arousals in the subject by use of nonphysical punishments such as intense humiliation, loss of privilege, social isolation, social status changes, intense guilt, anxiety, manipulation and other techniques.

    TACTIC 7

    Intimidate the person with the force of group-sanctioned secular psychological threats. For example, it may be suggested or implied that failure to adopt the approved attitude, belief or consequent behavior will lead to severe punishment or dire consequences such as physical or mental illness, the reappearance of a prior physical illness, drug dependence, economic collapse, social failure, divorce, disintegration, failure to find a mate, etc.

    These tactics of psychological force are applied to such a severe degree that the individual’s capacity to make informed or free choices becomes inhibited. The victims become unable to make the normal, wise or balanced decisions which they most likely or normally would have made, had they not been unknowingly manipulated by these coordinated technical processes. The cumulative effect of these processes can be an even more effective form of undue influence than pain, torture, drugs or the use of physical force and physical and legal threats.

    How does Coercive Psychological Persuasion Differ from Other Kinds of Influence?

    Coercive psychological systems are distinguished from benign social learning or peaceful persuasion by the specific conditions under which they are conducted. These conditions include the type and number of coercive psychological tactics used, the severity of environmental and interpersonal manipulation, and the amount of psychological force employed to suppress particular unwanted behaviors and to train desired behaviors.

    Coercive force is traditionally visualized in physical terms. In this form it is easily definable, clear-cut and unambiguous. Coercive psychological force unfortunately has not been so easy to see and define. The law has been ahead of the physical sciences in that it has allowed that coercion need not involve physical force. It has recognized that an individual can be threatened and coerced psychologically by what he or she perceives to be dangerous, not necessarily by that which is dangerous.

    Law has recognized that even the threatened action need not be physical. Threats of economic loss, social ostracism and ridicule, among other things, are all recognized by law, in varying contexts, as coercive psychological forces.

    Why are Coercive Psychological Systems Harmful?

    Coercive psychological systems violate our most fundamental concepts of basic human rights. They violate rights of individuals that are guaranteed by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and affirmed by many declarations of principle worldwide.

    By confusing, intimidating and silencing their victims, those who profit from these systems evade exposure and prosecution for actions recognized as harmful and which are illegal in most countries such as: fraud, false imprisonment, undue influence, involuntary servitude, intentional infliction of emotional distress, outrageous conduct and other tortuous acts.

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  23. #23 Laurinda
    July 11, 2011 am31 10:57 am

    rawanderer: are you the man featured on the cannibis vid “Fully Conscious”???

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  24. #24 dreamwalker
    July 11, 2011 am31 10:58 am

    #19 It’s a well-known fact that hackers can’t spell, Robin!

    For example Laurinda must be a hacker because she can’t spell AMERICA… Wink

    hehehe only kidding Laurinda!

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  25. #25 Laurinda
    July 11, 2011 am31 11:05 am

    DW: hehehehehe I once called it America, now for me it is AMERIKA. When more people wake up here, perhaps it will be America for me again….

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  26. #26 dreamwalker
    July 11, 2011 am31 11:13 am

    #25 HACKER ALERT! HACKER ALERT! Grin

    Hey in some circles that’s a compliment!

    #20 Rawanderer I enjoyed your latest message and I liked the mt shasta thing you’re doing in that vid. Flows very nicely.

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  27. #27 Laurinda
    July 11, 2011 am31 11:23 am

    Here’s a sick joke for you: How do you know when a politician is lying? There is a microphone around. ROTFL

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  28. #28 Laurinda
    July 11, 2011 am31 11:26 am

    dw: Search Mail

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  29. #29 rawanderer
    July 11, 2011 am31 11:42 am

    Laurinda, why do you ask?

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  30. #30 Laurinda
    July 11, 2011 am31 11:43 am

    just curious.

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  31. #31 rawanderer
    July 11, 2011 am31 11:47 am

    Thank you dreamwalker, I have heard before that Mt. Shasta is acually Shambhala on the inside or something like that. I may be wrong, but it is still such a beautiful mountain. I wish I lived in California sometimes!!

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  32. #32 rawanderer
    July 11, 2011 am31 11:49 am

    Yes Laurinda, that is yours truly in that video. (P.S, glad you’re talking to me again!! Grin)

    Heart Heart Heart Heart Peace Peace Yin Yang Yin Yang

    Ol’ Jim commented on one of my channeled messages with a new wordpress account, love ya Jim! Grin

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  33. #33 Gunner
    July 11, 2011 am31 11:58 am

    Hi Everyone,
    This morning Bob and I watched a youtube video, and as it closed I felt Horus tapping on my shoulder, and I knew a message was coming. You may read it in this Wake Up Call. The url to watch the video is here, below what Bob wrote when he sent it out to some of his friends.

    Bob: Everyone who cares about ending the tyranny on our world, and restoring our sovereignty and freedom from the oppressors, should watch this Video and pass it on. We each have the power to peaceably help bring our world back to the freedoms we want for ourselves and family and the family of humanity.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLJ2z8BSUPc&feature=related

    Wake up Call: Horus July 10, 11

    There is coming a preparatory shift in what happens on this planet. It is a shift that will come about because of the people, because of their openness to what has been taking place. It is time for all of you to join in this movement and to herald the new age of planet earth with all of us who will be coming up from the Inner and Hollow Earth. We will be coming and we will join in with you at a certain point. You will begin the movement, and when we see that it is your movement and not one that we have begun, then we will join with you in the endeavor to bring back your rights, your freedom and the beauty of a life lived in the joy of being your own salvation.

    You are living in a free will society and as you move forward in this free will you shall, for the first time since your experience on Maldek, be aware of what it really means to be your own creator. You will find that there is no limit to the power you have to peaceably bring to your world the freedom that you are born with. You will be those who followed your hearts and your minds to the satisfaction of that which you are destined for. You will have proven to us, and all of your universal family that you are operating and expressing in your free will. That is your invitation to us to come and join you, for family sticks together and brings the expected to fruition.

    You had to reach this milestone, dear ones. You had to prove to us all that you are standing in your freedom and self-empowerment. That means that you are allowing the innermost energy of the Mushaba Force to speak through you and to bring into your lives that, which is the legacy from the Creator. You are now on the threshold of living the inheritance of The Creator and allowing your Spirit the freedom that is yours.

    I encourage you all to watch this film and to interpret it in your lives in the peaceful and loving way that you are inspired to in the coming months. It lays the groundwork for you to live and act in your own way through the inspiration that comes directly from your Spirit. It is the movement that creates beauty, freedom and the love that is so powerful that it moves mountains of oppressions, parts the waters of greed, and restores the soils that have become so dirtied, bringing them back to the pristine land that is in harmony with all of you.

    This is your land. It is time to reclaim it and live in harmony with all life on and within it. It is time for you all to reclaim your freedom and live in harmony with all that is without and within your beauteous beingness.

    I will be here among you when the time comes that you have prepared the table before us, and we shall dine and drink of the victorious walk into freedom, peace, joy and love that is the beginning of the new world that you will be creating. I stand with you now in the spirit that is One. I stand with you forever.

    Thank you dear Horus,
    Love, Nancy Tate

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  34. #34 Laurinda
    July 11, 2011 am31 12:01 pm

    For the record, Telos is beneath Mt. Shasta, not Shambala.

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  35. #35 Robin.
    July 11, 2011 am31 12:09 pm

    Laurinda #21.

    I disagree with you too!

    The ‘high gear’ you refer to, is in my humble opinion nothing more, or less, that the ever more visible desperation of a dying monster in it’s last and transparently pathetic death throes!

    Personally, I choose not to get sucked in further by it.. to where ever in the World it’s slimy tentacles may have crept!

    I guess though, that as this monster was largely birthed and nourished by AmeriKa.. it is also fitting that it should be SEEN to collapse and ‘be lain to rest’ there too!

    Certainly these are not ‘easy times’ for ANYONE on Earth.. but then, no one ever said they would be! Smile

    (Yes.. ‘Shambala’ is located in the Gobi Desert Region, I believe).

    In Light!

    Smile

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  36. #36 Laurinda
    July 11, 2011 am31 12:11 pm

    I do agree with you that these are indeed NOT easy times Robin!

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  37. #37 Robin.
    July 11, 2011 am31 12:14 pm

    LAUREN.. Update.

    July 11th 2011.

    LOVE takes the LEAD:

    ‘The Return of Feminine Power’.

    July really came in with a bang… pun intended. Speaking of fireworks… a heartfelt thank you for all the birthday wishes from each and every one of you and from all over the world. Every single email was a precious gift, and I lit up like birthday cake for each one. There is so much love in this community that its hard to take it all in, in one sitting, so I read these letters for days on end…which made my special day feel like a special week. (Tho, with the compression of time, the 4th really felt like an eighth, so I s e r i o u s l y had to milk it.) Anyway, thank you all for being beautiful.

    To Hell in a Handbasket

    “You have undergone a potent combination of lunar, solar and planetary events that has completely restructured your emotional reality… events that initiated and precipitated deep stirrings within the human core. This stirring is bringing up some deep wounds for release, both personally and collectively, and as a result, many are now opening to realize their true selves as separate from the many karmic mis-creations that previously held you bound. A congratulations is definitely in order.” -Seven Sisters of Pleiades

    One of things that the unseens have been unapologetic for since day one, is the fact that this process is worth it…no matter what we go thru, or how battle worn we are, they make it clear that it is well worth every inch of chub pain/struggle/challenge and that in the end, we will actually thank ourselves and each other for making this bold choice. Personally, I am still on the fence about that notion, but in my estimation they really do seem to understand human suffering because if they didn’t, I highly doubt they would stick around thru all the contemptuous rage & cynicism I dish out about this process…yet, irregardless, they continually affirm over and again that the view is well worth the climb, even if we can’t exactly feel that yet. So this is me saying to you that if you tried to jump last week, I totally get it, but we are so close to donning our robes that throwing in the towel at this final hour would just suck…and besides, you would wake up on the other side thinking…”duh”.

    “We understand the pain of transformation and the struggle to swim against the collective tide of consciousness, but we would like to remind those on the front line that there is much to be grateful for, to look forward to, and that your participation in planetary ascension is not without reward. How could it be any other way? We understand that in the throes of such intense purification that it is difficult to access those feelings, but we are always here to remind you that each of you understood the outcome AND the path to arrive here, and that your choice was made knowing that the outcome FAR outweighed the challenges. Trust in yourselves and trust in where this process is taking you.” -Seven Sisters

    Tho the last 4 weeks may have sent you to hell and back, I look at it more like bearing-down-to-push-thru-the-birth-canal (hence all the grounding lower back pain and pelvic cramps). The pressure we are feeling is/was enormous… like the transformation of coal (carbon) to a diamond (crystalline)…and just to give you some perspective of the magnitude of this process, the transformation of carbon to diamond takes millions of years to complete. ((gulp)) We are the midwives of this ascension process, as well as those giving birth to a new world, which means, above all, we have the responsibility of pacing our emergence with the natural rhythm of our contracting (earth) body…and fortunately/unfortunately, its waaaay too late for an epidural : ((

    The good news is that the intensity we felt thru the final eclipse in Cancer (archetypal mother) was not without cause in that we are arriving in LOVE, and the unseens say that this is in part due to a permanent release from karma…and as a result of that, we are beginning to feel the first signs of freedom from the heaviness, a lightening of our load, and a reconnection to our creative passions. This means we are about to meet our true selves, as if for the first time!

    We are beginning to build a relationship with the new beings we have become and this relationship is a very balanced and sacred one that will accurately be reflected back to us thru new balanced and sacred relationships with others and with the material world. “As above, so below…as within, so without” is not just some new age platitude…its physics.

    Hath No Fury…

    God-dess only knows how, but we made it thru the eclipse sandwich without getting eaten…altho that doesn’t mean we didn’t get a few bites taken out of us, especially as we entered the emotional waters of July. With such an indecent combination of celestial events simultaneously taking place, it could feel…on a good day…like getting caught up in a violent cosmic rip tide. We just endured quite a heavenly cocktail, my friends…solar/lunar eclipses, the solstice, a cardinal grand cross, CME/solar flares, a comet flew into the sun..even a finally-visible and apparently “the-most-intense-ever-seen-earth-sized-thunderstorm” on Saturn made headlines…one that Geoff Brumfiel at nature.com hilariously calls: “one bad mutha shut-yo-mouth of a thunderboomer”…lol)

    If you were you were relaxed/trusting enough to swim WITH the current, it definitely took you somewhere destined…tho maybe unexpected…even if you are still finding your footing here. If you swam against the tide, whew…you either drowned a few times or got tumbled and beat up pretty bad. Either way, you most likely ended up at the same place…with or without the battle wounds of resistance. That’s the beauty of the ascension choice, btw…either way, we arrive where we need to be. The process can be like a stern father forcing us to eat our peas….either we can do it willingly or we can sit at the table until dawn. My suggestion? Eat the peas!! …at least when its our “choice” we can maintain some semblance of self-respect.

    The incredibly cardinal Cancerian emotional undercurrent of July…and the return of our divine feminine power…has become quite a force to be reckoned with the last few years as the heart gathers momentum in preparation to take the lead. This month we are being asked to step up and give this sacred feminine force a voice, to stop keeping her small and allow her, her rightful throne. ((insert Beyonce’s “Girls Who Run the World” theme song here))

    For the goddess energy to emerge in all her empowered glory requires quite a bit of momentum (hence three eclipses in Cancer, three years in a row) to break thru the deeply layered crust of masculine-dominated paradigm structures that were honored over the course of his-tory…and that momentum felt like it came to a crescendo on the solar eclipse of July 1st…it felt like just the right amount of masculine (solar) energy required to push us all beyond our e-motion-al comfort zones, to say what we REALLY feel, even if that meant without a shred of grace. Hath.no.fury.like.a.goddess.scorned.

    We all were given exactly the opportunities we needed to put our hearts in first place, which of course meant digging up some deep emotional sludge and clearing out whatever else is holding us back from our personal truth. Core feminine wounds…especially around powerlessness…erupted, and in some cases they may have been disguised as volatile projections, but the emotional turbulence beneath them was a clear indication of the depth and importance of this particular feminine clearing cycle. In some cases, this was THE wound of all wounds that erupted…the one that you swore was gone, but still clearly had teeth. Hopefully you didn’t bite anybody, but even if you did, you still have a few days (until the full moon on the 15th) to see, embrace and coddle all your remaining loveless “lady” parts…and to return any vital pieces of human flesh you borrowed.

    Things That Go BUMP in the Night

    The partial solar eclipse in Cancer definitely created a wave of powerful cathartic energies that washed over the planet and her people for the purpose of blasting out some deep emotionally-lodged feminine wounds trapped in the collective consciousness of humanity…and unfortunately that also meant some confrontational energies in the spirit realms as well.

    Some scary-ass-stuff came up too…depending on your level of psychic sensitivity and the strength of your personal/energetic boundaries, you may have experienced the collective part of this purging in a not-so-fun way. It was almost like the boogie-man was back and all those childhood fears of the dark returned with what felt like extreme psychic vulnerability, menacing energy attacks, eerie visions, and unsolicited contact with the less-than-enlightened astral-folk poking around in the ethers. This, for me, meant a lot of sleeping with the tv on…something that I haven’t done since, well…last month. Unfortunately, however, these astral-dwellers seem adept at manipulating electronics, so I quickly learned that the tv is not always guaranteed protection from poltergeists and goblins…in fact, sometimes it even encourages unwelcome activity.

    These energies are really nothing to fear…try telling yourself that at 3am : 0… but they can be startling and usually accompany a large clearing of feminine energy like the one we are still in the midst of. The unseens say that these are just trapped souls that are given a hall pass to heaven during these energy shifts…but on the way from the classroom to the lavatory they take a mischievous detour to play a few pranks on the pagans, stoners and goths.

    I like to think of these interactions as conversations with a negative neighbor…not necessarily scary, but something to avoid when possible. And if it ever goes beyond that, remember to whip out your wand and bathe your energy and space in the violet fire…which btw, is suddenly very powerful now. I assure you that no dark energy can hold up to the transmutational power of violet alchemy where we stand. In fact, you may even want to brush the dust off those old sorcery books and give another whirl at casting magic spells because our powers are starting to work in very noticeable ways.

    And if you are not familiar with/accustomed to using the magnificent violet fire, and feel bullied by the lower-astral energies, sometimes these spirits just need to be shown who’s boss. As with most things, I tend to go over-board and so I will whip out all my tools at once in a panic…but really all that’s needed is a solid boundary. If you just fill up your space with your energy…meaning, make your energy VERY BIG and felt…which usually amounts to a sincere telepathic “PISS-OFF!”, you’ll be golden. And yes, these energies respond well to anger because they speak that language, but its more about solidifying boundaries and closing any gaping holes in our energy field that let these little suckers in. Learning to master our energy means mastering our participation with the seen AND unseen worlds…this month is a perfect time to practice your powers in the dark.

    All We Need is Love

    “Now that you have had the ability to bring up the remaining density that existed in your emotional body, you will have the opportunity to release yourself from it…and to replace it with love.” -Seven Sisters

    One of the greatest rewards of the passage we were just dragged by our faces thru is the anchoring of self-love…a new feeling of acceptance, solidified personal boundaries, and even sacred bodily ownership that many of us have never felt before. This feeling of self-love is just starting to seep into our cells, and is responsible for the magnetic attraction of so many new things that will cascade into our lives…from new relationships, to new levels of abundance, and all of those things required to sustain/enjoy our new-human existence.

    This is actually pretty exciting, and if you have had the pleasure to even taste a tiny morsel of this sweetness, you may notice that this energy is subtly recreating our patterns/responses/perceptions to align with our authentic core in total self-acceptance…and therefore more acceptance of others. This can manifest as feelings of emotional surety, of clear boundaries and understanding fully what is ours and what isn’t…which also spawns the support/confidence to release ourselves from toxic energies/relationships/jobs and anything else that is not in alignment with our divinity. In other words, now’s the time to act on any inner-impulse to set yourself FREE.

    You may also suddenly have a deep, integrated, and even cellular understanding about how co-creation begins with this level of self-love….kind of like new software has been installed and suddenly things we have been talking about for years just make sense on a much deeper level. Once we have integrated this truth fully, and light fills every cell of our bodies, we have attained the self-love quotient required to unlock the chamber of magic that lives in our hearts…and when we do, we are able to fully participate in the outer world thru the resonance of oneness.

    This internal opening is a precursor to conscious creation…one that we are currently undergoing as an integral transition into the unity fields of potential. Not only that, but right now… in this snapshot of “time”…the entire cosmos is supporting us to birth ourselves into this new world of our conscious making. Our job, for a couple more weeks is to cauterize any remaining feminine wounds with the nurturing and loving energy of the divine mother in preparation to meet the masculine energies of fiery Leo at the end of the month where we will have the opportunity to see just how far we’ve come in letting our hearts lead.

    The Heart Takes the Lead

    “What is important to understand , is that your ability to master the physical realms, to step fully into your roles as co-creators, depends solely on your activated love-quotient. Which essentially means that your ability to remain true to your inner calling, and to design the world that you have envisioned for yourselves is wholly contingent upon the condition of, the strength of, the connection of… your heart. Take not these words as indications of niceties, that is to say, love is not the application of those things generally regarded as “pleasant”….LOVE is an indication of, the reflection of, your internal connection to…TRUTH…the merging of the lower self with the higher self which becomes the internal & external representation of All That Is.” -Seven Sisters

    More than anything, the Pleiadians want us to understand that the heart is our guide now. Period. They say this so that we will realize the impact that our feelings now have on our creative potential and that our creative powers lie “whole-heartedly” within our feeling-based center…which means that love is the only (positive) way forward. When we bypass, or rise above causality and enter into resonance creation, we are finally at a place in our evolutionary development where every “reality” we co-create with is simply an indication of where we are putting our our energy…and the material world, a rapid and vivid reflection of that. With this understanding, the physical dimensions become a powerful petri dish of potential, but that potential can only be nourished and brought to fruition with the proper balance of love. ((that should help us sleep at night : ))

    I am told that very soon, things are not going to work as we might have “thought” they would, but more by way of how we always “felt” they would…which is why we have to trust so completely in the interpretations of our feeling center. The mind has been rewired to send and receive signals from the heart, which means those new human prototypes are going to be disseminating the love-force of energy here to redirect humanity to its destination vibration.

    Which is also why it is super important to trust in/take steps toward/act upon what “feels good” now…those things we are in complete “resonance” with…not what “seems” good on the outside, or to/by others. We are being strongly urged to only make the choices that set us on fire, or at the very least, create a stirring of possibility and excitement deep within us…those opportunities/choices that increase our capacity to love and to share our YOUnique essence with others.

    “Never before has there been such a grand opportunity to actualize your full potential as co-creators of christed consciousness, and we stand before you as representatives of home, reminding you that you need not accept anything less than your full-hearts desires. As you find the courage to make decisions that honor these desires, the universe shifts to match your request and supports miraculously arrive. But the choice must be made, and the energy will follow, long as you trust completely in the gift of grace that is so heavily supplied to you. Be fierce in your determination to claim whats inherently yours.” -Seven Sisters

    Up until this point, we were able to utilize the tremendous strengths of the divine feminine to completely alter our internal landscape and restructure our lives to align with our truth by following the guidance of our feeling-center. We were (self)-taught to engage in our mastery by using the alchemy of “magic”…that of creating a complete transformation from a space of stillness. We were required to “remember” that true/lasting change comes not by force, but by allowing…and the seasoned magician knows with certainty that for any physical change to occur, it must come from a deeply internal place of merging of divine and human will.

    And tho we were definitely blessed with an abundance of feminine energy to make these necessary changes, it was only by barely maintaining our flow to the sacred masculine during the massive internal excavation, that we were able to survive. And tho we did/do survive, we could never truly thrive without the full flow of this vitality needed to sustain us in the outside world. That’s changing now.

    We are stepping into unified consciousness which means that the masculine must now come-on-line to support the feminine….which is why I imagine the unseens keep repeating that the rest of this year will be so “physically” focused. Tho the feminine (heart) remains at the seat of creation, the masculine puts those forces into play, which means that we are now coming to know, to understand the externalized power associated with the masculine principle as a balanced and supportive force for the divine feminine, not as the controller OF it.

    “This next passage is thru the heart which means a great internal restructuring has occurred and many may find themselves in unfamiliar territory.” -Seven Sisters

    We are restoring the balance of Shakti/Shiva…and tho the divine feminine (Shakti) must take her rightful place as the leader of creation in the world of form, this is in no way hierarchal or femininely monotheistic…because without the masculine principle (Shiva), the goddess energy is a raw, unsculpted, unmanifest force of potential that cannot fulfill its vocation.

    Conversely, when the two polarities meet in the middle (heart), divine love is restored and rebirth (ascension) happens. It is time.

    Are you ready to know your greatness?

    Lauren

    ThinkWithYourHeart.net

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    In Light!

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  38. #38 Gunner
    July 11, 2011 am31 12:22 pm

    July 10, 2011 Centaurian Message Update

    We are the Centaurians, messengers of Truth and Light. We come to you today in
    answer to your request for an update in two different areas, the predicted earthquake
    and the economy in the United States. As most of you know the congress of your
    current government is meeting today, on a Sunday, to discuss the failing economic
    system in the United States’ government. We will begin our update here.

    Your government is in debt beyond their capabilities of correcting with their present
    system of government and economic structure. They have long misused, abused
    and strangled all funding, all spending and all beneficial programs for the citizens’
    welfare. There have been so many misappropriations of funds that the numbers
    would overwhelm you and make you gasp in disbelief. We will not astound you with
    these numbers. The meeting today will find that they are still at a stalemate within
    their different political beliefs. Their political egos will outweigh any decisions deemed
    necessary for the welfare of the country. Without an economic system the country will
    shut down and all will be vulnerable to those who wish to step in and take over. That will
    not happen as the Light workers will step in first. Although the plight of your economy
    seems grim to say the least, this is the moment when systematic change can take place
    with least resistance. This is the opening the Light workers have long awaited. Those
    people in key offices will find it necessary and mandatory to either step down from
    their duties or become part of the new system. Most will turn to the Light as most are in
    favor of what can save the country and make her the true democracy she was meant
    to be. The ones, who are corrupt and went into their offices for corruption’s sake, will
    step down either by choice or by demand. You are in the midst of great change in your
    history. You have read about such things in times past where a particular governmental
    system collapsed and the heads of state were uprooted from their tasks. You read
    the stories with some interest, but without a connection with it ever happening to you
    or your country. Believe us when we say that this change is for the greater good of
    all. When the United States collapses and is reborn in a matter of days or weeks, the
    rest of the world’s governments will be quick to follow. This is the beginning of your
    greatness, your sovereignty, your move into the glorious future to come. Look on to
    these happenings with joy, light and love. Contribute to the outcome with your love and
    light.

    And now for the second part of the update: the earthquake. The stage is set; the
    platelets are ready to move. This may not be on the grand scale as we once thought,
    but it will be at such a scale as to cause great damage in many areas. Keep in mind that
    this quake is the precursor to a quake of great magnitude that will happen when you
    have left the surface of Earth, Gaia. Gaia is ready to make her change, her
    transformation. The quakes and volcanic actions on the surface are necessary for her

    changes, just as your bodies are changing on the molecular level now as well. We still
    advise you to have a stock pile of food, water and other essential supplies for your
    survival. There could still be a period of time without power and without deliveries of
    essential supplies. Since you are not used to being without whatever you want or need,
    this will feel as a real hardship. You will be without common communication. Those of
    you with radios that can send messages back and forth will need to stay tuned, so to
    speak, in order to have the necessary information those around you need. Though it will
    be hard to get the information to those who do not have radios of this type, you will have
    it when it can be issued to the multitudes. Couple this quake with the news that the
    economic system has failed people who are not yet aware of what is really happening
    will panic. They have lived in the richest and most luxurious lifestyle of all. This has
    made them complacent and unprepared for 3D reality. All the glitter things in the world
    will not prepare you for natural occurrences. A quake is a natural occurrence; it is not an
    enemy as some will see it. In other words, our prediction still stands. We have not seen
    anything change that would prevent it’s occurrence as yet. What has changed is the
    outpouring of Love and Light from those who have heard of the event and wish to
    lessen its effects on all life in the area. Remember there are some people in that area
    who have made this event part of their life plan. Some signed up to experience this
    event and survive and others signed up to make this their exit from their physical
    existence at this time. There are many throughout the world who signed up to leave this
    physical existence during these transformative years. They are not yet finished with
    their 3D learning and will reincarnate on another 3D planet to continue their 3D
    experience. You, on the other hand, did not sign up for more 3D. You signed up to
    experience this transformation to come out on the other side as a 5D being. And so
    shall it be.

    We are the Centaurians, messengers of Truth and Light. We are most grateful for the
    opportunity to give you this message in this way. Perhaps you will want to discuss all
    of this at your Saturday meeting. We cannot predict the exact date of the quake at this
    moment in your time, so you may or may not be meeting next Saturday. Or perhaps
    we are incorrect of our estimation of the damage and your involvement in the after
    effects of the quake in Indiana. We love you immensely and are most grateful for your
    presence during this time. So be it.

    **Note from Donna: For those of you who may not live in northeast Indiana, they are
    referring to a prediction of a major earthquake (5-7 on the Richter scale) in the St.
    Louis area. Their prediction was made on July 1st and they said the quake would most
    likely take place this month of July 2011. The damage would be extensive nearest
    the epicenter, but the power grid(s) could be affected as far reaching as NE Indiana

    and other areas. This would also bring distribution centers to a halt for a time. Also,
    there could be extensive damage to railroads and highways for travel of any kind. They
    suggested that we have a stockpile of food, water and other supplies that could last
    us for a month. This message was not meant to scare us, but to prepare us. As was
    explained in this update, the quake is part of the preparation of the platelets for a much
    larger, massive quake after we have left the surface.

    Keep bringing in the Love and Light for yourself and keep giving it out to others. All is
    indeed well.

    Donna

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  39. #39 QuadHealer
    July 11, 2011 am31 12:28 pm

    Just in for a quick visit – apologies if what I say is a repeat of what has already been discussed – just wanted to give my 2 cents…hope everyone is doing GREAT! I’ve just started exercising again after years of laziness, so I feel great!

    @dreamwalker (#3)

    Hierarchy is a very 3-d/human notion that in my opinion goes against the Law of One

    I’m not sure I understand this view – unless we are talking about the one supreme almighty God that can make anything happen with the mere thought of it, then it goes without saying that it makes sense to delegate assignments and responsibilities among different souls – no? Perhaps God cannot control things here in this dense illusion directly, but needs others to push its plan through all dimensional planes through diligent souls at each level – I don’t know how God or the Creator operates in all details.

    In my view the Hierarchy is not in the sense that they are in any way better than anyone else – it is merely a organizational structure where the most appropriate souls have the assignments and responsibilities they are best at. I must have misunderstood something as I can’t see the big deal? Why is not wanting anarchy only a human trait?

    Yes, we are all part of the one source, but does that really mean that we all have to act as one, otherwise it is a lie? What would be the point in splitting up our consciousness if we don’t have the illusion of individuality? Fifth dimensional beings are a very long way from home, albeit a bit closer than we currently are from source, but that doesn’t mean they can operate on the level of oneness and have no need to organize – of course telepathy makes coordinating efforts a bit easier, but as long as we are not operating as one, then there needs to be some kind of coordination and organization of the actions.

    Of course this doesn’t mean that all these channelings are correct – it could very well be an elaborate way of distraction. It is however not just Quinsey, but also Mathews, Nidle and a whole array of others (some I know privately) that have a similar message. I seriously doubt they are all on the payroll of the CIA, but that does not rule out manipulation on a dimensional level just above us, so as to fool all channelers and mediums (unlikely but certainly possible).

    However, I cannot see the big distraction in these messages – if anything they make people wake up and use discernment and question their authorities, and pay very close attention to what is happening in the world, discussing issues with friends, family and co-workers. Even the ones that have given up on these messages due to the utter misuse of the word “soon”, are still more alert than they would have otherwise been.

    I’m not so sure that something spectacular will happen in 2012 (other than continuous progress at an ever increasing rate), but these messages have given themselves an ultimate deadline, which is about to end very soon, so no matter what happens we have an exciting future ahead of us. The part about lies and corruption coming into the light in ever increasing frequency certainly does seem to be correct, and I love to hear about the chaos that is happening as the old corrupt system is being slowly up rooted.

    I have a hard time taking anything seriously lately – it is like it just doesn’t matter anymore.

    Yes, I agree about mind control – just take our education system: rewarding people that can regurgitate the “correct” approved answers, but fail and ridicule the ones that think outside the box.

    In Light

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  40. #40 Gordon
    July 11, 2011 am31 12:31 pm

    IrisAscending, I can’t even find the original forum post you are referring to… do you have a link?

    If TBTAnon exists there should be some results for a web search.

    I can’t find any forums on physorg. I do see forums on the related site physicsforums.com but no “metaphysics” forum (would it make sense to have a metaphysics forum on a science site? I would think not.)

    The most reasonable conclusion, I think, is that the entire story is a fabrication and there is in fact no original post as suggested. If anyone find such a forum discussion, let us know.

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  41. #41 rawanderer
    July 11, 2011 am31 12:37 pm

    Thank you for clarifying Laurinda, I knew it was some Agarthan city under Shasta, just wasn’t sure which one. These times really aren’t easy, but there is much we can do to make them easier! Grin In Love

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  42. #42 Gunner
    July 11, 2011 am31 1:18 pm

    For some odd reason this song “ooh ooh child things are going to get easier, ooh ooh child things will get brighter” keeps going through my head today.

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  43. #43 Robin.
    July 11, 2011 am31 1:26 pm

    High Council of Orion.

    11 July 2011.

    Channeler: Karen Doonan.

    We are the high council of orion beloveds and we come to guide and support you as you try to move into your heart centre to live the life journey that you incarnated to. Many of you are struggling with the heart centre and we are here to guide and support you in the process and we guide most strongly that it is a process. It is not as simple to many of you as stopping the thoughts created by the mind, it is a harder thing for a human to move into the heart when they are surrounded by illusion.

    Many will not have visited their heart centre since they were a child, many more will think they live from the heart centre but realise by what is created all around them that they are just outside of that area. The heart centre dear ones is the very fountain of your creation, to have the LOVE that IS within your very BEing makes you a powerful creator. Much illusion swirls around the human race across the planet at this time that is lowering the vibration of many. We guide you strongly to maintain being in your heart centre at all times, no matter what the outside world is trying to teach you, the heart is the truth.

    Illusion is much denser around certain sections of human life than it is around others, we note the banking and monetary system and we guide strongly for you to process all media information with your hearts. The human experience is not about collecting pennies and storing them dear ones, do you count your potential and your worth based on the pennies you have in the bank? Why would this be dear ones? What would the illusion gain by teaching you this is the way forward?

    Humans do not need the monetary system any more than you need to consume vast amounts of food, clothing etc but the illusion teaches on fear, many of you fear not being able to feed or clothe yourselves or your children so you buy and buy and buy. Always collecting, always amassing things just “in case”. We guide you to look once more at this scenario and ask if you live in your heart and are connected if you employ this behaviour. Mother earth supports her children at all times dear ones, many of you are not connected to your mother earth and therefore are full of seeds of fear. Many of you strive to feel safe and secure and we guide most strongly that this safety and security comes from WITHIN, it does not come from having households full of shoes or cupboards full of food. If the seeds of fear have been triggered then these commodities mean nothing to your BEing. By that we mean that the fear will have been triggered, it is therefore irrelevant how many pairs of shoes you own as that feeling of security will be evasive. It is found by connecting to mother earth and by allowing her energies to flow freely through your energy system it is not found by continually spending the money that the illusion teaches you is your god.

    The monetary system contains human beings dear ones, far from being liberated and free, money will chain you into slavery. Money is the cause of most disagreements between human beings, many fight and bicker over money all the while not seeing the illusion plant seeds of fear and anxiety deep within them. We acknowledge that our guidance will trigger many who will descend into anger and rage when reading our guidance that the monetary system is not needed. Such is the depth of illusion that many humans cannot see a replacement for the monetary system. Such is the depth of illusion around the teachings of the “need” for money that many simply do not understand how far they have fallen into illusion.

    The” world as human beings are leaving it is around money and banks. We ask who this serves dear ones? Do you feel free and able to expand? Or do you feel contained and feel that there is much you could do in your life experience “if only”? Many of you will feel that you cannot fulfil a life dream because the illusion teaches that only those who have lots of money in the bank can “afford” to do what they wish. This is illusion at its deepest dear ones and we guide you to move into your heart and FEEL how containing this mindset is. Many will not be able to acknowledge or accept our teachings around money at this time in their life journey as they are too far in the illusion. If you allow the connection to mother earth and allow her energies to soothe your very BEing, if you can move into the heart and realise that all you will ever need will come to you and is not dependant on you being in competition with your fellow humans then you will be able to create the life that you want to.

    All of the creation of the human life journey comes from the thoughts and feelings of the human experiencing that life journey. Illusion will teach that you have to “cosmically order” the value of your dreams before you can pursue them, we guide you to be aware of the illusion in this. How many of you who live in a mind centred life journey have managed to “cosmically order” the vast sum of money you believe you need to start on your dream? We guide you to be aware of illusion dear ones, whilst you have deep seated fears on security you will not be able to “order” anything, freeing your BEing from the seeds of fear is the way forward dear ones. Then you will find that as you begin to take steps to create YOUR reality the universe flows everything you need towards you.

    We have guided on vibration and how the human vibration is at various levels. As you increase your vibration you draw to you events, people, places of similar or higher vibration. The vibration of a human being chained to the illusion of money and money solving everything is very dense and low dear ones. Whilst you define your worth through your bank accounts you will keep your vibration low and not expand. We guide you strongly to go within to the silence and connect to source, connect to the LOVE that IS and realise that you do not define yourself with money. In fact dear ones there is no definition to be had at all, to define is to contain.

    We fully acknowledge that many are still too deep in illusion to be able to accept our words of guidance, many will be triggered by how simple it is to step out of illusion, but such is the intensity of the fear that was planted many cannot see this. The illusion teaches that once you have lots of money in your bank account you are in effect free. It then goes on to teach that humans are only the value of what they have in that account, this lowers vibration and keeps the human vibration at a level that it is unachievable. The teaching is illusion dear ones, to realise that your worth is infinite, to realise that you are loved and loving and that you are worth more than any money is the freedom dear ones. This truth has to be uncovered and accepted before real freedom is there for you.

    Do not look at your economies and your bank accounts and feel the seeds of fear germinate, know that all is illusion around this subject. All is smoke and mirrors to contain and control you dear ones. Money just IS. But the level of negative emotion that surrounds money for humans is vast and it is this emotion that illusion plays on. Many of you are completely unaware of the depth of seeds of fear that surround the commodity money. Many of the seeds were planted from a very young age and many will be unaware of the depth of emotion that is within them with regards to money. We guide you strongly to go within and allow the emotions that are there to surface for you. Many of those emotions will already have been triggered by our guidance and we strongly guide you to visit the silence within and find those seeds and weed them out.

    Money does NOT make your society exist dear ones, the illusion is strong around this with many plunged into fear and chaos and they connect with the smoke and mirrors surrounding economies. We guide you to disconnect and go within. When you feel safe and secure from the INSIDE dear ones you will realise how far the illusion stretches when it comes to this subject. How do you FEEL when you think about your financial situation? Do you feel light and free or do you feel heavy and contained? If you feel heavy and contained does that bring up feelings of inadequacy or feelings of worthlessness ? Why? Who planted the teaching that you are the value of what you have or have not got in the bank? Who does that serve? We guide you to be aware of illusion at work.

    We highlight that as human BEings there is no judgement, one human cannot sit in judgement of another, you are all equal yet we watch as many feel inferior to those who “appear” to have more than they do. This further reinforces the sense of worthlessness and further lowers the vibration of the humans concerned. Those who have “more” are gripped with the fear of “losing” the more that they have and we guide you to ask once more, who does this serve? This furthers the illusion of separation and division. WE ARE ALL ONE.

    When you look at another and judge them by what they wear and how they speak you are in illusion, if you look at another human being and realise they have “more” money than you and feel inferior you are in illusion. All an attempt to lower and keep lower the vibration that you hold. Humans are not a quantity to be defined dear ones, you are pure BEings of light and you are not defined by money or houses or possessions. These are the commodities that the illusion uses to lure you back. For many consuming is now out of control with the need to own the latest technology or the latest clothes and overwhelming urge. Such is the growth of the seeds of fear that these humans are obsessed believing that they will feel safer, more secure, MORE SUCCESSSFUL if they wear the latest fashions or have a bigger house. This is illusion dear ones, whilst you live with the fear of “losing” you live in illusion.

    Safety and security come from within dear ones, the drive for safety and security leave you open to illusion on many levels. YOU ARE safe and secure dear ones, but you need to connect to mother earth to realise this truth. No amount of us guiding you will actually make you believe it until your realise it for yourselves. Many of you may be surprised that we state this to you in guidance but it is truth. Our guidance is just that dear ones, humans have free will and we cannot make you do something you do not want to do. We can but guide you to your heart where the truth resides. The actual disconnecting must be done by YOU dear ones. Only by following our guidance and finding your truth will you be able to lift the veils.

    Being within illusion leaves you vulnerable and we watch as many succumb to the teachings of illusion without a second thought but when shown a way out of illusion become paranoid and cling to the very illusion that contains and lowers their vibration. Such is the depth of teaching by illusion dear ones that you cling onto fear and anxiety in a desperate attempt to make sense of your life experience. Why would you be born onto a planet to experience nothing but anxiety, fear, doom and gloom? What is the point of human existence if it is one long round of trying to stay alive whilst dodging disaster? We guide you to go within and ask those questions in the silence.

    We do not guide to lure you FROM truth dear ones, we guide you to your heart to FIND truth, that is where truth lies dear ones, not in your minds that can be swayed by the promise of gold and glitz, that is not where you will find truth dear ones. The heart is the only place in the human body that truth resides. We cannot take you there dear ones for you have free will and you must uncover your own truth. Our guidance can trigger truth within you, perhaps for some it is all that is needed to confirm what they already suspect. For others our truth is nonsense, so steeped in illusion are these humans that the venture into the heart is not even thought about. All just IS dear ones. We come to guide and support those who are ready to move from mind to heart.

    For many of you that is a step too far too soon and we acknowledge and accept this. Work with yourselves dear ones and work to find out YOUR truth. This is not about division and separation this is about unity. If you feel anger and hatred rising within your BEing at the words we guide then we would strongly guide you to look within. These are signs of the seeds of fear being within, for there can be no negative emotion without fear dear ones. Such is the teaching of illusion that many will not believe this truth, many will hold on to illusion believing that division and separation is the ONLY way to live, we guide strongly that it is not dear ones.

    We now step back to allow you to absorb out words and we appreciate that many will not be able to. Each human across the planet is the captain of their own ships. Each one has free will and has the decision about their creation within their very BEing. If you do not wish to live the life you are living then only YOU can change this dear ones. Holding on to that which is within you will continue the life experience the way that it is. Change is not bad dear ones, change brings many gifts but illusion will teach you that change is fear. Process this through your hearts dear ones, for the heart is the place of truth.

    We are the high council of orion and we are your brothers and sisters from the stars. We guide to support you at this time of major change both on a personal level and a worldwide level. If you can dream it dear ones you can be it. We caution with regard to dreaming, such is the power of the human BEing you can create the nightmares that you fear by falling into illusion. Step out of illusion and begin to trust and have faith in YOU dear ones. We love you, we have always loved you,

    WE ARE ONE.

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    In Light!

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  44. #44 Robin.
    July 11, 2011 am31 1:37 pm

    #39.

    Doing GREAT Quad, yes!
    Nice to ‘see’ you..

    ‘In Light’ (and Peace!) indeed Bro!

    Star Smile Star

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  45. #45 dreamwalker
    July 11, 2011 am31 1:41 pm

    #39 A well-thought-out post Quad. I agree with you about that kind of hierarchy – organizational hierarchy is still needed; I think my concern is more that we as humans tend to put someone on a pedestal because they are of a higher “rank” than we are. This guy is president of the basketweaving guild so that makes him better than me.

    Well, no, it’s just a job that this person does, or a role he plays.

    The concept of “spiritual hierarchy” is a tricky subject but in my mind does not refer to organization. Perhaps it is simply a reference to 2d vs 3d vs 4d etc. I guess the point I was trying to make was that the concept of “spiritual hierarchy” is something of an oxymoron because there is no hierarchy in spirit. From a spiritual standpoint it’s all just little balls of light. One ball of light is no different from another ball of light.

    So for a 5d being to talk about a spiritual hierarchy is by extension a little tricky, but perhaps this is just being expressed through the person receiving the message. Channeling uses the receiver’s point of reference to communicate so it has its strengths and weaknesses.

    What I’m getting at (and probably making a mountain out of a molehill) is that the concept of “spiritual hierarchy” is not something a 5d being would probably express, if they understood how things around them really work.

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  46. #46 Robin.
    July 11, 2011 am31 2:00 pm

    Yeah.. DW.. as a believer in Lateral Governance systems, I too have often questioned ‘What is the Hierarchy?’

    Just because, in fact particularly because, it is a ‘Spiritual’ one, should not imply that the one is greater or better or ‘above’ the other.

    Perhaps it refers to the order of ‘largeness’ of the beings concerned? By this, I mean those who have achieved greatest ‘expansion’ (of Consciousness) are considered by those who have not ‘yet’ achieved these same levels, as being ‘greater’ (literally) therefore?

    SaLuSa refers fairly regularly to ‘The Great(er) Beings of Light who Oversee’..

    Presumably as the ‘levels’ (2-3-4-5-6-7 ‘D’ etc) ascend.. then so does the ‘space’ within them, INTO which it is then possible, as a sentient and fully conscious being of Love, TO ‘expand’?

    Sh*t, why do I suddenly feel like a small piece of 3D ‘Lead-shot’!! Smile

    In Light!

    Smile

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  47. #47 dreamwalker
    July 11, 2011 am31 2:53 pm

    #46 LOL “lead shot” that is a very interesting description!

    SalUsa: Are you saying I’m FAT?!?!?

    Robin: No, no, Sal, just that you’re fat HEADED…

    SalUsa: WHUT DID YOU SAY?????

    Robin: But in a GOOD way!

    Grin Silly ROTFL Laugh

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  48. #48 QuadHealer
    July 11, 2011 am31 2:57 pm

    @dreamwalker (#45)
    Ah, okay I see what you mean. I understand the resistance to the term “hierarchy” if there is some kind of pedestals involved. I only see it as a needed coordination and subdivision of some mindbogglingly complex efforts across the “multiverse”.

    As I see it there is nothing “better” with the upper layers of the hierarchy – their focus is just on other matters than in the “lower” levels. Anyway, I guess it is all just words, we of course have to be careful not to put too much emphasize on them, as they are our Earthly words used to describe a completely different world – as you say the “spiritual hierarchy” could sound like an oxymoron, but I think it is their attempts to use our words to describe a hierarchy that operates on mutual respect, fairness and in a cooperative two-way manner and they couldn’t think of a better term for it in our words. Just my thoughts.

    @Robin:
    hehe – yes, wouldn’t it be great to have a GM barbeque, so we could really see each other, but I guess it will have to wait until we all have anti-grav “cars” and can roam around the Solar system as we please without passports and the TSA pat downs Smile

    In Light

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  49. #49 connorb123
    July 11, 2011 am31 3:37 pm

    i really hope to see more evidence for disclosure soon. because the more time that passes i become less convinced. i want to believe in it cause it is to good to be true. but i dont think i should rely on this too much cause if nothing happens by the end of this year, i will be… uh.. mad lol. like GM said… 2011 will be a big year….

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  50. #50 Admiral2012here
    July 11, 2011 am31 3:54 pm

    …hey Quad, it’s nice to have you back bro Big Smile

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  51. #51 Lux Aeterna
    July 11, 2011 am31 5:06 pm

    hi, im new. Smile just wanted to know how to make a thumbnail icon for my user. thanks!

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  52. #52 Robin.
    July 11, 2011 am31 5:34 pm

    DW #47.

    Ha! Yeah.. ‘lead-shot’.. like small and dense!

    I’m sure Sal ‘gets’ the difference between holding an Expanded Consciousness and being ‘Fat Headed’.. even if some of us yet don’t!

    In the best way of course!

    Smile

    ~~~~~~

    Yo @ Quad,

    Yes.. glide to the nearest Inter-Galactic Barby on your new ‘Hover-Pod’ (copied from the GF Original by ‘Honda’ of course!!).

    And then we can drop the Passports, Tickets, Iris Scans, Pat-downs AND ‘Customs’.

    Phew.. Bring it ON!

    Table Mountain?

    In Light!

    Smile

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  53. #53 rawanderer
    July 11, 2011 am31 5:45 pm

    If there is anybody that still thinks Barack Obama is working for the dark, please give this a read:

    http://stevebeckow.com/this-site-i-pro-obama/matthew-ward-president-obamas-predicament/

    “Readers regularly email me with questions about why “President Obama” did this or that and I have said, well, he may not have done this or that. It may have been people in “his” administration or the military still loyal to the Illuminati. It may have been people whose mission is to destroy the credibility of the President’s administration.

    We have to remember that President Obama is one man and everything he directs others to do, the minute it leaves his lips or his hands, is then carried out by those others. If they are bent on subverting his orders, what can he do to prevent it? Many administrations have been tied in knots by bureaucrats who worked for the ”opposition.”

    “…What seems to occur is that Matthew, Hatonn or SaLuSa will issue a message in which they tell us that the President is a lightworker of the first order and we remember it for a day. Then corrupted members among Republicans, Congress, the bureaucracy, military, or fundamentalist talk shows (not all people in these groups are corrupted; I didn’t say that) move into action again and begin issuing fear-inducing stories about what they say the President has done, is doing, or will do. And we lightworkers buy into it, champions of the underdog as we are.

    We take up so many actions which are urged on us by the dark side. We act like lemmings and allow the dark to spin us through their control of the media, Congress, and other organs and institutions.”

    So many of us have taken flack for standing up for Obama, he truly is working for the Light!! The sooner we all send him our Love instead of our hate and misplaced frustrations, the sooner he will be able to really enact change!

    In Love

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  54. #54 Deneb
    July 11, 2011 am31 5:47 pm

    DW, Robin and Quadhealer,

    Well, in my opinion spiritual hierarchy does exist and it is a good thing. Yes we are all equal souls but not at the same level… in the same way that in a family the younger children are not inferior to the older ones, they just have less experience, and in some case, less wisdom.

    I believe there exist a very positive and peaceful hierarchy in higher realms and I think it is perfectly fine that way. I won’t feel inferior if I learn that I have less wisdom than St-Germain or Mother Mary! I think it is only logical that the most advanced souls are recognized as such. It does not mean that these souls are made of “better divine material” than the rest. It just means they have more experience. Now wouldn’t it be a lack of humility on our part to prevent these great souls from “leading” and inspiring the others? I for one would prefer seeing the most advanced souls of a civilization regrouped as a “high council” and well, let them lead. Not lead as in “control the suckers and rule over them!!!”. I’m talking of another kind of leadership. Pure, not ego driven.

    Anyway, as long as these evolved souls are walking the path of Light and Service to Others, I don’t see any problem with a spiritual hierarchy.

    What do you think?

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  55. #55 rawanderer
    July 11, 2011 am31 5:55 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uNoNn0KjZA

    “You have been informed from a number sources already that President Obama is the one chosen to lead you through the coming period.
    “His work cannot fully commence until the restraints upon him are removed so bear in mind that he is under much pressure to follow the advice he is being given.
    “You will see the real man and exalted soul that he is come to the fore when he is able to fully express himself as a Being of Light.” -SaLuSa

    Grin

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  56. #56 Robin.
    July 11, 2011 am31 6:10 pm

    Deneb #54.

    Too right.. it is surely about the level to which a being’s Spirituality/Consciousness has expanded, I believe!

    I also reckon that I am probably so pissed off with the way ‘HIERARCHY’ has been ABused, by Humans, here on Earth, that the very mention of the word now gives me the “System-Buster Blues”!

    It’s the Pyramid style ‘Hierarchy’ of Earth that has not-so-good connotations attached to it.. like the great ‘Human-God’ figures at the top.. and the billions of ‘Sheeple’ at the bottom, that do what they are TOLD or get shot etc!

    But then that was all only a part of the Illusion.. Eh!

    We are all One in Love, in the same ‘building’, whatever level the ‘elevator’ may be at for us!

    In Light!

    Smile

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  57. #57 SunRaymond
    July 11, 2011 am31 6:11 pm

    Sun I only read a few of the comments so far but…

    In response to this CIA Mike Quinsey stuff and Rawanderer’s #20,

    LoL!! Whatevea. Yall ain’t gotta discern my channelings. Aten be talkin’ to me…not you. Razz

    However, if I do channel something for you…then do yo thang! Discern Wink

    Grin

    Alright!! Goin’ get Ice Cream!!!

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  58. #58 Admiral2012here
    July 11, 2011 am31 7:18 pm

    COMMERCIAL BREAK – I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE SOMEONE IS WATCH’N ME

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amOqFg-NQtw

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  59. #59 Laurinda
    July 11, 2011 am31 7:23 pm

    I would be happy if the “great being of light” in office would produce an authentic birth certificate… because now we have an undocumented “Commander in Chief” walking the halls of power…

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  60. #60 Admiral2012here
    July 11, 2011 am31 7:37 pm

    …it’s okay Laurinda…Obama is on our side…peeps just don’t know it yet

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  61. #61 Laurinda
    July 11, 2011 am31 7:48 pm

    Well Addie, I guess time will tell, and of course proper 3D documentation! lol Hells Bells, I had to produce proper documents to work for our local school district!– I reckon I can ask the same of the President of this here United States of Amerika!!!! hehehehhehe Heh

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  62. #62 SunRaymond
    July 11, 2011 am31 7:57 pm

    Obama!!!!!!!!!! Don’t really care or know much of how the media put him out these days…but he’s the bomb!! I see him metaphysically.
    I’m undocumented too!!!!!!!!!!
    LoL!! I incarnated in America. So the government thinks I’m American. Ha!!
    I’m not American…I’m a person living in America.

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  63. #63 Admiral2012here
    July 11, 2011 am31 7:58 pm

    …good nite

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  64. #64 SunRaymond
    July 11, 2011 am31 8:02 pm

    Laurinda you say, “Amerika”. Erykah Badu calls it, “Amerykah”.
    I Love her. One of my favorites. I watched some of her interviews…definitely an awakened soul!! She expresses that through her music too.

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  65. #65 Robin.
    July 11, 2011 am31 8:44 pm

    L #59.

    Uummm.. the ‘Great Beings of Light’ I refered to earlier, are the kind that probably BREATHE entire New Galaxies into existence with a single thought! I don’t reckon even Obama is up to that level of ‘stunt’ just yet!

    But, ‘practice makes perfect’, or so they say! Smile

    Personally, I like to consider myself as a Sentient Citizen of Planet Earth.. whatever else my ‘documentation’ may have stamped upon it by the ‘authorities’!

    In Light!

    Smile

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  66. #66 rawanderer
    July 11, 2011 am31 11:25 pm

    I agree Robin, I consider myself a humble soul inhabiting dear Gaia, I shouldn’t need specific documentation!!
    But as far as what Laurinda said, she is corret the one running the country should have clear record of birth. I do however think that the birth certificate issue has been overplayed and somewhat distorted, for all we know the PTW could be withholding the certificate while at the same time having their news organizations tell Obama to present it..Or maybe Obama isn’t a citizen of the United States! Really, who knows. I always had a theory that he was born on another planet, and assumed the identity of someone recently deceased.

    The whole thing is complicated. Personally I can’t wait to be back on Erra, away from all of this noise Peace Inhabiting the lush valleys and forests of muh’ home planet, not having to worry about dark ones or anything else, jussst livin Cool

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  67. #67 Stick
    July 12, 2011 am31 12:17 am

    Lux Aeterna#51: http://en.gravatar.com/
    Welcome to the Tribe!!! Lion

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  68. #68 SunRaymond
    July 12, 2011 am31 12:45 am

    Sun Lux Aeterna!!! Look it up on Google Grin Laugh

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  69. #69 Robin.
    July 12, 2011 am31 12:52 am

    RW #66.

    I guess it’s all down to Nationalistic ‘Bullsh*t’ really!
    We are ALL Citizens of Earth.. and political ‘boundaries’ don’t stop tidal waves or hurricanes do they!

    The Premier of South Australia here, was born in England.. and that’s about as far away as you can get – without going Interplanetary!

    ***

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  70. #70 Gunner
    July 12, 2011 am31 4:41 am

    Rawanderer 53 excellent post on my man Obama. Obama rocks!!!!

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  71. #71 Gunner
    July 12, 2011 am31 4:45 am

    I could not care if Obama was born on pluto, he still rocks in my book. I never agreed with the rule you have to be born in America to be president especially with all the immigrants coming here for a better way of life.

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  72. #72 Laurinda
    July 12, 2011 am31 6:13 am

    Good morning ALL! I received an email from our Starry Brother Drago along with all the wonderful articles and info he always sends out to his friends. He said he will now place it on his facebook page. Hopefully he will continue to email me sometimes, as I do not use the powers that be tool of facebook. At least I heard from him today, and that is the main point!!! In Love

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  73. #73 Laurinda
    July 12, 2011 am31 6:43 am
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  74. #74 dreamwalker
    July 12, 2011 am31 6:48 am

    #54 Deneb that is a nice perspective. I agree that there is as much power in following as there is in leading.

    Robin also made a good point that it’s a term trying to describe what appears to be a very complex undertaking. We all could very well be both leaders and followers in different aspects of the whole big shootin’ match…

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  75. #75 dreamwalker
    July 12, 2011 am31 6:54 am

    #73 To carry the food for thought a step further…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moloch

    in Allen Ginsberg’s Howl

    Moloch! Solitude! Filth! Ugliness! Ashcans and unobtainable dollars! Children screaming under the stairways! Boys sobbing in armies! Old men weeping in the parks!

    Moloch! Moloch! Nightmare of Moloch! Moloch the loveless! Mental Moloch! Moloch the heavy judger of men!

    Moloch the incomprehensible prison! Moloch the crossbone soulless jailhouse and Congress of sorrows! Moloch whose buildings are judgment! Moloch the vast stone of war! Moloch the stunned governments!

    Moloch whose mind is pure machinery! Moloch whose blood is running money! Moloch whose fingers are ten armies! Moloch whose breast is a cannibal dynamo! Moloch whose ear is a smoking tomb!

    Moloch whose eyes are a thousand blind windows! Moloch whose skyscrapers stand in the long streets like endless Jehovahs! Moloch whose factories dream and croak in the fog! Moloch whose smoke-stacks and antennae crown the cities!

    Moloch whose love is endless oil and stone! Moloch whose soul is electricity and banks! Moloch whose poverty is the specter of genius! Moloch whose fate is a cloud of sexless hydrogen! Moloch whose name is the Mind!

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  76. #76 dreamwalker
    July 12, 2011 am31 7:04 am

    #73 Hmmm, explosives = Patriot Act = terrorist = bypass due process

    See how easy that was?

    Clearly being an American citizen doesn’t mean a darn thing.

    Ironically this is exactly what they’re fighting against.

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  77. #77 Laurinda
    July 12, 2011 am31 7:07 am

    “LIBERTY IS THE ONE JEWEL THAT MUST BE PROTECTED!” and I would extend this out to planetary liberty!!! Yes

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  78. #78 Admiral2012here
    July 12, 2011 am31 7:15 am

    …there’s a Matthew Message (July 11) posted at Rumormills ???? …and of course, there is no link posted with it http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=209600

    It’s not posted on Suzi’s site nor has Beckow posted it yet, so where did it come from?

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  79. #79 Laurinda
    July 12, 2011 am31 7:34 am

    Admiral: I found what Matthew said about chemtrails very interesting, as our skies were full of them on July 4th! And why not? There were so many folks out and about that day–our granddaughter hasn’t felt entirely well since! In fact, I would say that the powers that be have in fact, STEPPED-UP the chemtrails assault on people!!! No

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  80. #80 Caveman
    July 12, 2011 am31 7:39 am

    Hello GM Massive. I just wanted to chime in and say hello. I’ve been very busy lately. I must admit though, I was kind of disappointed a few weeks ago when I came here and saw the arguments going on. It gave me a really bad feeling because it reminded me of kids in highschool bickering rather than those on the doorstep of ascenscion. I know we can all have 3D moments but sheesh. Glad it was all ironed out.

    Anyway I really don’t want to get into some political argument but I’m surprised a lot of you blindly follow Obama. He has demonstrated that he PERSONALLY has made so many bad decisions that he is worse than Jimmy Carter. Even his own base is waking up and seeing this. If you want I can give you a bunch of bad decisions that can only be blamed on him not to mention he promised transparency and he himself is shrouded in mystery and lied about being a Constituional lawyer. I had nothing but hope he would make true change. But we’ve gotten more of the same and even worse. If SaLuSa or anyone claims he is a being of light than I am suspecting this is more of Mike Quinsey giving his opinion rather than Salusa. Because no matter how much we wanna believe he is a light being, I’m sorry all the evidence points to that not being the case.

    The only argument I see is, ‘its not him making the decisions’ displacement of blame. Well we could use this same argument for any president. That just doesn’t hold water.

    Other than that I have been attempting to make actual contact almost every night now, asking for it. I have had two times where ships have shown up and hovered for 15 20 minutes at a time that are very low. So low that I can see the ship, its just not a point of light in the sky. Once it was so low I could hear an electric hum, a very alien sounding hum coming from it. It was amazing!!!! I will continue to ask for a tour until I get one. So maybe all this stuff is true after all. Keep the faith GM! I think 2011 will be a tremendous year!

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  81. #81 Admiral2012here
    July 12, 2011 am31 7:53 am

    …Laurinda 79, I don’t think that was a real Matthew Message since it’s not posted on Suzi’s site…I could be wrong, but I won’t know until it’s posted on Suzi’s site. Surely Beckow would have posted it already and it’s not on his site either. When you read it, did it sound like Matthew?…besides the first sentence

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  82. #82 Laurinda
    July 12, 2011 am31 8:01 am

    Addie: Nope. You’ve got mail.

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  83. #83 dreamwalker
    July 12, 2011 am31 8:26 am

    #80 – Caveman please give our friends a warm hello from me okay? I’m looking forward to meeting them again!

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  84. #84 Laurinda
    July 12, 2011 am31 8:35 am

    Caveman: It seems to me that with your repeated sitings, that you are in a great position to provide video accounts up on youtube! AND, you mention a humming sound—that would be a “first” up on youtube also! The duration of your sitings will also be a “first”, so hopefully you can share this with the rest of the world. Dr. Steven Greer would be a good man to start with, instead of just telling us here at GM about all of this!!!!!

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  85. #85 dreamwalker
    July 12, 2011 am31 8:37 am

    Inuit People On Sun Wrong, Stars Wrong, Earth Tilting On Axis

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5U1FTP-D1E&feature=player_embedded

    Welalin / All My Relations Sun

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  86. #86 Robin.
    July 12, 2011 am31 8:57 am

    WORLD CITIZEN DOCUMENTS:

    Re. the ‘documents’ discussion of earlier.. and if there is no such thing as ‘coincidence’.. Please now check THIS out (if you haven’t already):

    http://www.worldservice.org/docpass.html?s=1

    http://www.worldservice.org/reg.html?s=1

    http://www.worldservice.org/forms.html?s=1

    I visited a friends new born daughter this eve.. the subject of Birth Certs came up.. and Passports.. and Citizenship.. and I now have it ‘third hand’ from him, that Obama HAS already been issued with one of these Passports.. it was stated at the Canadian/US Border as ‘evidence’ of their authenticity by another also using one of these Passports on entry into the US and subsequently checked up upon by Immigration Authorities.. and confirmed!

    “Yes Sir, you are correct, President Obama does hold a valid World Passport.. please feel free to enter the US of A!!”

    And of course, they allowed him in straight away!

    Interesting huh? I reckon this could be the Free World Travel referred to recently by SaLuSa, the infrastructure of which is already ‘set up’ and awaiting the switch to ‘mass-activation’ and release?

    In Light.

    Smile

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  87. #87 CarlFromCanada
    July 12, 2011 am31 8:58 am

    Lol I hated this part of Matthew’s message.
    “Now then, it is immensely gratifying to us that lightworkers who once were distressed by the delay in official recognition of our universal family no longer need that as proof that Earth’s ascension course is steady and apace”

    Wait?!? What??? I still need that! Boo!

    I got this message from the normal source Of galacticChannelings.com

    Sometimes I find they get messages before the originating sites put them up.

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  88. #88 John
    July 12, 2011 am31 8:59 am

    Greetings fellow crazies…. and what a wonderful time to be nuts too.

    The Raw food thing is going well, even though we have fallen off the wagon a few times. What a difference a few days of not eating chemical laden, pre-processed psudo-food can make. The first few days were tough, though. The body, although it really likes the blast of real nutrition, the detox effects as it purges the crap can be a little stressful.

    My friend, Corinne, has been doing this a little longer than I, and near the beginning, about two weeks ago, we were at the beach in White Rock when dinner time rolled around. We went to a nice place called Charley Don’t Surf for our meal. I didn’t have much reaction, as I had just gotten started, but Corinne was complaining for two days about how the cooked food was messing with her. She was dragging her ASS around with a lump of concrete in her belly.

    We have found that if one is intent on going raw, that one really should transition gently. Some will be fine “cold turkey”, but, I think, most will have some decidedly unpleasant experiences at first.

    As for me, I had about a week and a half of being a slug. All tied up in detox, and although it isn’t nearly finished, have begun to feel a lot better. Corinne has the juice and smoothie thing pretty much figured out and they are full of amazing tastes and combinations of stuff, it boggles the senses. I have lost almost 8 pounds in the last two weeks and Corinne is on my back about eating more…. “You’re wasting away… Eat… Eat…” seems to be the mantra around here these days. Frankly, I am quite happy to see the emergence of the possibility of being under 200 pounds again, without the denying myself of tasty, diverse and light filled food.

    We are embarking on a project that will pave the way to introduce the concept that good healthy, clean food is a human right and a system that can support that view. We will be teaching raw food prep and planning, growing system design and plant husbandry, as well as medicinal choices and nutrition comprehension. There are so many areas of “food” that we have forgotten it boggles the mind.

    Our plan involves a “co-op” sort of organization, but with limited number of participants in each “pod”. When the pod fills up, we pass along a system to another that will generate their own pod to extend the co-op farther afield.

    At this time, we are finalizing the drawings for the greenhouse, grow system and sussing out the flesh of the plan. It is going very well and we expect to be growing in the green house by October.

    Anyone that wishes to get involved are welcome to. We seem to be being led to this plan by outside sources (higher self is outside in my current perspective), so I ask, please, anyone that wants to do this in their area, follow the plan we are laying out, and in that way, their food will cost nothing but time and research as well as being able to fill the food banks, women’s shelters and other needful services with the best food that Gaia can offer, not to mention meals for the homeless and those that have had a harder time of it than the rest of us.

    It’s not about getting rich, it’s about getting fed and ensuring that EVERYONE has food that will heal rather than harm.

    As you can imagine, we would like to generate a global network of small pod farms (even a backyard in the city can be a pod farm) all working together to feed their communities. I will have a package of the basics and needed information to distribute shortly, including plans for the greenhouse, growing system and infrastructure. Initially, although it is somewhat distasteful to put this out there, we are going to require some capital to get things rolling. Not a lot, maybe a few grand (I’m trying to scrounge what I can and so far have had fairly good success (thank the universe)), for the greenhouse covering and various sundry items. I offer anyone that is willing to donate more than $50.00 first dibs on the dissemination of the plan to start their own pod, but again, ask that those that undertake this undertaking, respect the plan. We are more than willing to listen to other ideas, but they MUST be in line with “food for all, especially for those that cannot pay”, and in that move away from farms for profit model that has screwed up the world.

    We have a collective roughly 30 years of experience in horticulture, business and engineering to draw on, between the three of us starting this plan. With the dynamic we have available to us in our association, we have a complete solution. We have the means for the facility, the growing and production as well as the utilization and creativity necessary to make interesting and tasty meals.

    This is going to be such a blast, creating a better, more compassionate garden available to everyone, and cram CODEX up the butts of those that would have us sick and dying for lack of real food, not to mention the fellowship and upliftment we can offer to all.

    If you want to start this on your own, without association with us, research aquaponics and raw food nutrition. Although we can’t really give away our information (the volume is vast), we will help as we can.

    Steffie, this would be a fantastic system to implement in Africa. It is community driven and fairly easy to do with native plants. It would be possible to build a functional system to feed a few hundred on an ongoing basis with no operating costs. All that would be a challenge there would be availability of water, but as it is a closed system, it is really only the initial filling of the system that would be trouble. After that it is just topping up the tanks and keeping the fish happy.

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  89. #89 Steffie
    July 12, 2011 am31 9:21 am

    Addy, that message from Matthew was the real thing. This just in from Suzy:

    Message from Matthew
    July 11, 2011

    With loving greetings from all souls at this station, this is Matthew to share our elation about happenings in your world. A week ago the United States celebrated its Independence Day, and like other occasions in that country and significant times in many others, fireworks are part of the celebrations. What we are seeing can be equated with the most spectacular of your fireworks displays as innumerable sparkling lights constantly are shooting out from Earth into the heavens—this brilliance is a most exhilarating and heartening sight to behold!

    No longer slumbering unawares, myriad souls are responding to the intensifying light along Earth’s ascension route into increasingly higher vibrations and new alignments with other celestial bodies. Now in concert with all other lightworkers—you who know that you are and the many millions who do not yet identify themselves as such—these new “sparklers” are radiating their light to all persons around them.

    Before we proceed along that line, let us speak a bit more about the United States and its intended significance on a global scale. The framers of the document proclaiming that this land was a nation independent of British political rule did not realize that they were acting upon God-given inspiration and not only their own convictions about the rightness of their actions. The higher purpose of that inspiration to unite the colonies was to create a nation where unlimited opportunities greeted peoples from all countries, a land where differences not only were respected, but encouraged for the benefit of all. The United States was to be the country where the combined skills, talents, resourcefulness and innovative ideas of all its residents would prove to the rest of the world that under wise and fair governance, free peoples live in harmony and prosperity.

    However, it was but for a fleeting instant, historically speaking, that the citizenry of that nascent country were free. The aim of the Illuminati, which had built the British empire, was to increase, not decrease, their bases of influence, and the injustices that gave rise to the Revolutionary War simply went underground, so to say. From the time that the first disparate groups of colonists landed anywhere in lands called The New World, those who were of dark heart and mind and later came to be called the Illuminati wanted to control the western continents, thereby widening their highway to world domination. Because God must honor Creator’s law of free will, the free will of those dark ones prevailed and the beacon for the rest of the world that the United States was intended to be never “came to light.”

    Only now, more than two and a quarter centuries after the signing of the Declaration of Independence, is freedom actually going to be achieved in the United States and all other countries. As the light revealed the darkness that was perpetrated and perpetuated by the Illuminati, it also has focused world attention on peoples long oppressed by dynastic and despotic rulers. When Earth reaches the threshold of her Golden Age at the end of your next calendar year, every soul on Earth shall be free, and the growing numbers of lightworkers are leading the way.

    With joy we tell you that among the new “sparklers” are defectors from the ranks of the Illuminati who “saw the light” and with enthusiasm embraced it. Although others who left did so for self-serving reasons—seeing that the Illuminati is in its death throes, they want to appear as never having been associated with that group—the results nevertheless are positive: No longer are those persons deterrents in areas where formerly they stalled or prevented reforms, and they may become receptive to the light.

    Peak members of the Illuminati who are not yet willing to accept that their power has eroded beyond any possibility of recovery still wield enough influence to slow but never halt the progress of the light forces. Also many good souls still are stuck in third density mentality, oblivious to the reality that they chose to actively participate in this era that is unprecedented in the universe.

    It is fervently hoped that all souls will welcome the light as old systems give way to the new and our space family assists you in restoring Earth to her original health and pristine beauty. However, every person has the free will to receive the light, which they chose to do in their soul contracts, or to repeat this lifetime’s experiences in some other third density world.

    Regardless of how many become enlightened about their true selves as inseparable aspects of God and all other souls, the long ages of duality in your civilization are almost over. The dominant masculine energies that kept war, brutality and ruthlessness surging through millennia are being balanced by the inundation of feminine energies, and within balance there is only light.

    Now then, it is immensely gratifying to us that lightworkers who once were distressed by the delay in official recognition of our universal family no longer need that as proof that Earth’s ascension course is steady and apace. The optimal time has not yet come for a public announcement about other civilizations, especially that some of them have been in your midst for years, or for landings of the crews whose crafts are surrounding the planet. At this juncture, a primary consideration is the many people who have not completely experienced the third density karma they chose. In the excitement of working and living with extraterrestrial brothers and sisters, those people could veer from their karmic path and miss the opportunity to evolve into fourth density.

    We don’t know when you and your benevolent brothers and sisters will greet each other, but each passing day brings that grand time closer. In the meantime, you can feel joyous about progress in other important avenues.

    Although the recent dust storm in Arizona was manmade, incidents of technologically-produced weather have been seriously reduced in number and scope. This is not to say that attempts have not been made or that any future efforts will have no effects whatsoever, but none of the most devastating events of recent years and months will be repeated. Mother Earth will release the remaining negativity in ways that achieve that end without those kinds of severe repercussions.

    And, in most areas where formerly chemtrails were prevalent, the skies now are clear. When some of the pilots, mechanics and others involved in those flights learned the true purpose of chemtrails—the toxic payloads were not to compensate for the hole in the ozone layer, but rather to sicken people and pollute air, water and land—they refused to continue working. Others who did know the truth participated willingly in return for handsome payment, but as funding dried up, they also left their employment. However, the most decisive factor in this situation is, some individuals who had ordered or financed the flights are among those who embraced the light, and those who want to keep chemtrails crisscrossing your skies have lost almost all means to do so.

    It may appear that the light and the dark are at a stalemate in many other areas where dramatic changes are essential, such as governing bodies, national economies, environmental destruction, pollution, disparity between the wealthy and the impoverished, and victory for freedom fighters in countries where the peoples have been long oppressed. Relatively speaking, only a handful of individuals can bring about the ending of chemtrails and lessen diabolical use of technology, but reaching major international goals requires the involvement of many millions of your populace. While there is indeed very significant progress, much of it going on behind the proverbial closed doors, success on a global scale comes incrementally and more slowly than situations that can be quickly stopped or noticeably diminished. As Earth’s journey in the coming months takes you into ever higher vibrations, you shall see more and more evidence that everything based in dark intent is meeting its end.

    A measure of the light’s progress that is known perhaps only to the affected persons is the many telepathic connections that are opening. We remind you that both light and dark entities are eager to reach you; protect yourselves with the Christed light and insist that only light sources may contact you. [You can use the search and index features on Matthew’s Messages page in http://www.matthewbooks.com to locate more guidance relating to telepathic communication.]

    Although diverting attention from significant happenings still proliferates mainstream media and entertainment venues, cracks in those forms of mass mind control are becoming obvious to illumined minds. Disinformation on the Internet continues to be passed on by unwitting persons, so be ever more discerning about which information is true and which is not, and above all, do not go into fear about anything!

    As an example, the celestial body your scientists named Elenin doesn’t pose an iota of danger to your planet! This is another attempt to promote widespread fear by disseminating “leaked” information under the guise of “governments withholding information.” Although that does imply that you cannot rely upon your leaders to tell you about impending danger, the intent is insidious: Be fearful!

    Mother, for readers who may not understand the full effects of fear and how it holds people captive, please locate the passage about that in one of the books and insert it here.
    ___________________________________

    The energy of fear forms a barrier between the feared object or situation and the energy of light, thus neither the light in the souls of fear-filled persons nor light sent to them from any other source can reach their consciousness to dispel the power that fear holds over their lives. The barrier acts like a prison wall, isolating persons within their fears and offering no way out. Furthermore, fear is such a magnified emotion that it strengthens the barrier’s energy blockage and intensifies the force of whatever is feared.

    And, fearful persons keep creating more fear-filled circumstances to deal with. Through the universal law of attraction, or “like attracts like,” the energy streamers they send out attract “like” streamers and bring those back to the originating sources.

    Not only is fear is wildly contagious, but due to its magnified power, fear sensation streamers have sticky edges that attract the kinds of energetic interactions that omit common sense, rational thought, sound judgment and wise decisions. Fear is so insidious that it can convince persons that the only way to escape is through portals that lead deeper and deeper into fear, and sometimes into darkness. Fear is the forebear of prejudice, tyranny, greed, bellicosity, deception, dishonor, hatred, and torturous treatment of helpless animals—all of those characteristics and behaviors arise from psyches that are twisted and tormented by fear.

    Every physical form is energy fluctuating at one frequency or another and each form sustains itself by drawing in “like” energy. The make-up of ones with dark hearts and minds is fear, so the law of attraction draws to them the energy generated by fearful individuals who unwittingly provide the fuel that the dark ones need to sustain themselves.

    Fear also is their most effective weapon against the light, and causing fear is a win-win situation for them. The very same energy that debilitates and holds captive those fearful individuals not only keeps refueling the dark ones, but people who live in fear are easily dominated, deceived and afraid to challenge authoritarian figures whose intentions and deeds are based in darkness.

    So fear is potent indeed, but light is the most powerful force in the cosmos and people who live in the light never need to fear anything! What about people who are afraid of death? What you call death is that lightning-fast transition of the soul from the body to Nirvana, Earth’s spirit world that many of you call heaven. In the light of that wondrous realm, people whose past lifetime was marked by fear prepare to be stronger and less vulnerable in their next physical lifetime, the next evolutionary step in the eternal life of their souls.

    _____________________________________

    Thank you, Mother.

    The countdown to Earth’s entry into her Golden Age is coming with ever increasing speed as your linear concept of time continues passing faster and faster. Use the remaining time prudently! Acknowledge your god and goddess selves and trust and heed your intuition, your souls’ messages to your consciousness. Let go of trivial thoughts, interests and activities that have no place in fourth density life, where glorious wonders abound.

    As long as needed, you will have the assistance of our universal family—light in abundance from powerful sources in this galaxy and others, technological help from the crews in ships in your skies and those soon to be on the ground, and the growing influence of our benevolent brothers and sisters living among you.

    As you prepare to take your rightful place as multidimensional beings in the Oneness of All, trust that within your soul is all the information and power you will ever need. No longer will you ask for answers from external sources such as we and other messengers of the light because your innate wisdom of the universal laws and your latent abilities will serve you well. Perhaps you will smile when you realize that the enlightenment and guidance we have offered over the years always has been your own knowledge and all we did was gently nudge it into your remembrance.

    Of the many, many billions of souls who wanted to be a part of this most exciting time in the whole of the universe, you are honored to be among those who were chosen. Rejoice in this privilege and responsibility knowing that the infinite, eternal and unconditional love of all light beings in this universe is with you every step of your pathway.
    ______________________________________

    LOVE and PEACE
    Suzanne Ward
    suzy@matthewbooks.com

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  90. #90 Admiral2012here
    July 12, 2011 am31 9:28 am

    …Steffie, I still don’t see it

    HERE >>> http://www.matthewbooks.com/mattsmessage.htm

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  91. #91 dreamwalker
    July 12, 2011 am31 9:36 am

    #86 That is really interesting Robin…

    I would be curious to know how this changes access to embassy services. I know that, for example, those with dual citizenship of Canada and the US can only enter into another country using one passport, and are then identified as a citizen of that country (either Canada OR the US) during their stay, and the laws of their identified country then apply. I think this can then complicate access to embassy services, for example in the case of incarceration, although how that plays out I’m not sure.

    From the FAQ’s – I especially like the tax provisions. Smile

    http://www.worldservice.org/wcwfaq.html

    How does world citizenship affect my national status?
    This depends on what the citizenship requirements are of your particular nation. As world citizenship becomes your primary allegiance, certain national obligations, such as conscription and the payment of taxes for war become redundant. In other words, the legal justification for both have been rendered obsolete by your sovereign act.

    Does this mean I don’t have to pay my national tax?
    No, you must pay that proportion of your national tax officially allocated to peaceful pursuits.

    What about the rest?
    This portion may be paid to the World Government of World Citizens through the World Government Treasury Dept. account.

    Where is that account?
    At the Bank of America NA.

    And what happens to that money?
    It is used for the evolution of your global government.

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  92. #92 Laurinda
    July 12, 2011 am31 9:38 am

    Robin: Passports here and in Britain now are biometric, so unless these passports you speak of are the same, you won’t be getting into the US or Britain anytime soon…

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  93. #93 Laurinda
    July 12, 2011 am31 9:45 am

    http://www.infowars.com/high-levels-of-radiation-detected-in-northwest-rainwater/ And right after it rains in the Pacific Northwest, those same rain clouds arrive HERE in what is known as the Inland Northwest!!! Shock

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  94. #94 Laurinda
    July 12, 2011 am31 9:46 am

    Robin: That passport organization is based out of Washington D.C. for God’s Sake… Thinking

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  95. #95 Robin.
    July 12, 2011 am31 9:47 am

    Laurinda: Apparantly they are so. I don’t possess a valid passport of any description at present and have no intention of visiting the US or Britain in the immediate future..

    How ‘S**N’ do you imagine ‘soon’ to be anyway?!!

    (Rhetorical question!)

    Smile

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  96. #96 Laurinda
    July 12, 2011 am31 9:53 am

    Robin: I meant anyone coming into the US or Britain not you specifically…

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  97. #97 John
    July 12, 2011 am31 9:56 am

    Do you folks know that “citizen” is the lowest form of person available in codified community?
    The others are
    Freeman – politically free, beholden to no rule beyond common law
    Burgess – free in the city, but beholden to common law and the rule of the landowner (statute)
    Citizen – beholden to all statute in or out of the city.

    These things are ancient and still have validity in this day. One cannot be governed without their consent, that is slavery. You have every right to deny consent to be governed and reclaim freeman status. Now, making that work in a world where the VAST majority think they are property and blindly follow without question is a challenge. It’s not insurmountable by any means… It just requires a different way of doing things.

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  98. #98 Steffie
    July 12, 2011 am31 10:15 am

    Addy I think Suzy may send out her emails before she posts it on the website… not sure?

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  99. #99 Robin.
    July 12, 2011 am31 10:16 am

    L #94.

    So what? The MAIN battle between the Light and the dark is probably also taking place IN Washington DC.. ‘for Gods sake’.. literally!

    Smile

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  100. #100 Laurinda
    July 12, 2011 am31 10:16 am

    Steffie: I am on Suzy’s mailing list, and I haven’t received his new message yet.

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  101. #101 Laurinda
    July 12, 2011 am31 10:18 am

    Robin: Yeah, that’s old news.

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  102. #102 Robin.
    July 12, 2011 am31 10:24 am

    L #92.

    Sorry.. I took your turn of phrase ‘literally’!

    Perhaps: ‘No one will be getting.. etc’ would have been less ambiguously stated for me.

    I wouldn’t mind obtaining a ‘World Passport’ none the less! I wonder if ‘one’ will need a Visa for OFF-World Travel? Smile

    Star

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  103. #103 Laurinda
    July 12, 2011 am31 10:27 am

    Robin: Let’s hope not!!!

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  104. #104 Robin.
    July 12, 2011 am31 10:30 am

    L #101.

    Yes!

    SO, why then should the World Documentation Office not equally so, be OF ‘The Light’ and ALSO in Washington DC (for God’s sake!)?

    (Now that would be some NEW-News wouldn’t it??).

    Smile

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  105. #105 Robin.
    July 12, 2011 am31 10:32 am

    L #103.

    You never know.. SaLuSa may be just another beaurocrat.. plumbing for some longer-term stamp-duty business here!

    OK.. Let’s hope not!

    Smile

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  106. #106 Laurinda
    July 12, 2011 am31 10:34 am

    Robin: Wink

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  107. #107 Gunner
    July 12, 2011 am31 10:34 am

    Greetings from Galactic Heart…
    Buddah encourages us to live the “middle way” and to have balance in our lives. Since the passing of my Mother, I have been looking at balance. Lately, with time speeding up and the feeling that there isn’t enough time, I’ve been feeling out of balance. I receive so many fun emails but due to my work load I wasn’t taking time out to enjoy these nuggets. Yesterday I took some time and would like to share some fun links with you. So just for fun…enjoy!
    Selamat Ja!
    Colleen

    WE HAVE ALL WANTED OUR REPLICATORS….RIGHT?
    If you’ve been to Sheldan’s webinars or watched his dvds, Inner Earth: Our Future Home, Tour of a Sirian Mothership or Zero Point: The Endless Sea of Energy, then you are familiar with replicators. Or perhaps you know about replicators from watching Star Trek. The replicators that Sheldan talks about use zero point energy or Light technology.
    Well, they now have 3D printers available. They don’t use Light technology but they are on the right track. I found this cool!
    3D Printer
    Also for chocolate…yummy!

    AMAZING! God’s Cricket Chorus
    You have to hear it to believe it!
    There are two tracks playing simultaneously. One of crickets chirping and one of the same crickets chirping but it has been slowed down to the lifespan of a human. Absolutely HEAVENLY! Just imagine….all of creation is a part of a beautiful collective harmony. Very healing.
    Crickets Chorus

    SWAN LAKE
    i’ve always loved dance and gymnastics. Here you will enjoy both along with the beautiful music of Tchaikovsky’s “Swan Lake”. (4 minutes)
    Swan Lake

    FUN WITH NUMBERS
    Here is something most everyone will enjoy! Everything you ever wanted to know about your BIRTH DATE
    FUN WITH WORDS
    AMAZING ONE WORD RIDDLE
    Here is a brain teaser for you. What if this was the only question on the
    exam to pass high school English and earn your diploma. Would you graduate?
    What nine letter word in the English language is still a word when eight
    letters are removed one by one? The word is…

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  108. #108 John
    July 12, 2011 am31 11:34 am

    Startling…

    cool eh?

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  109. #109 dreamwalker
    July 12, 2011 am31 12:32 pm

    Regarding “Spiritual Hierarchy”, the other place we’ve heard this is the Hidden Hand material, in relation to the Hierarchy that he served. I wonder how these two concepts are related?

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  110. #110 Gunner
    July 12, 2011 am31 12:42 pm
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  111. #111 Caveman
    July 12, 2011 am31 12:45 pm

    Hey Laurinda,

    That is a great idea! I will need to go buy a video cam, but they are relatively cheap these days! I feel very honored and full of gratitude to have had the experiences. I had a experience with a much smaller one when I was young that just hovered around watching me from right across the street at street light level!

    I have been trying this, probably at least 50 times and had at least some form of results 3 times. If you are persistent, I really think they do ‘hear’ you and respond once in a while.

    I suggest everyone give it a try. I usually try it during meditation. I simply ask to have a face to face contact with a benevolent human member of the GFL. I also try to raise my vibration a bit to try to come up to their level.

    An interesting thing I noticed in one of the recent messages. I believe SaLuSa was describing what it is like to have ascended. Describing how everything had a glow to it and how you are more aware. This is EXACTLY what it is like to be OBE. I think he even might have mentioned this. I can the only difference will be we can experience this in a more physical type body than an astral body. If thats the case prepare to be amazed! It will be pure bliss.

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  112. #112 Gunner
    July 12, 2011 am31 12:48 pm

    Sassy, you out there? Big brother is going to be great this year and annoying sarah is back and also evil dick.Evil dick is trying to say his daughter and himself have not spoken in years since their last appearence but I dont buy that at all. I would be gunning for him big time if I was on the show. Some of the newbie dopes are actually already going to the other side. Then I would gun for sarah and her boyfriend. These reality shows drive me crazy sometimes. I mean they have been on for so many years, we know the strategy is basically in the numbers of votes and they still seem to get dopey year after year. Some will never learn. Like on all star survivor, oh man boston annoying Rob would have been first on my hit list and these people let him hang in then he stabbed his buddy in the back and wound up winning the game.I know it is easier said than done but on BB the newbies are really kissing evil dicks butt. Oh well he does make the game interesting though.

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  113. #113 Gunner
    July 12, 2011 am31 12:52 pm

    Caveman, one night I was looking at the skies sending a message to the galactics. I also told them I dont want them to show me their ship because I was concerned for their safety and if I could see them then maybe our military could also and you know where that would lead too. Anyway that very night they gave me some show in my dreams that was so awesome and real. I guess that was their way of acknowledging my concern for their safety. And yes everyone, when you encounter them in your dreams it is the real deal and not just your mind .

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  114. #114 rawanderer
    July 12, 2011 am31 1:18 pm

    Gunner, I also encountered their ships in my dreams!! It was so real and intense, the displays they were making were so intense and unfathomable that it actually began to make me uncomfortable. I know what they were communicating to me by taking me out of my comfort zone with their amazing displays; the day before I was asking them why they dont make more awesome displays of their starships to the people. Their answer was that the ‘shows’ they are capable of displaying are so awesome that it may actually disturb some who are not yet ready. I consider myself quite ‘ready’ and even still their amazing displays were too much for me. I am very thankful to them for replying to me in my dreams, and in such a wonderful way!

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  115. #115 Gunner
    July 12, 2011 am31 1:25 pm

    Yeah rawanderer, I had at least 6 dream encounters. A couple of them there were hundreds of ships in the skies. The encounter I had over 2 months ago while awake I usually dont tell many people because it was so real and unbelievable i dont think anyone would really beleve me even the people over here. But I know what I saw. Well 5 to go. I was up since 330 and could not get back to sleep. Then, ironicallyi when 530 hit that is when I really wanted to go back to sleep but time to get up. Have a great night everyone.

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  116. #116 Gunner
    July 12, 2011 am31 1:30 pm

    Sassy, I gotta stop calling these reality show people dopey as that comes from my ego. It just gets me they make the same mistakes time and time again. BTW I know you have been busy so I will send you these 2 posts tomorrow on your personal e-mail. OMG Pee smelling buses in the hot and humid state of Texas, God bless you dear. I hope they at least have showers at the bus depot. Who are you driving around , the homeless? I know I know you are driving in the illegal mexicans. Only joking folks.

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  117. #117 rawanderer
    July 12, 2011 am31 1:33 pm

    Gunner, besides the dream I mentioned, as far as I can remember I have had only one other dream encounter. I was in Florida with my family driving down some road, and I looked out the window and saw a hipster standing their smiling at me, and he had a shirt on that said alien (with the typical green colored black eyed alian head) and an arrow pointing up. I looked up into the sky and saw a single starship flying around in circles. It was pretty interesting.

    The only other time I’ve ever seen a scout ship outside of my dreams was shortly before the fourth of july when I was watching some fireworks in Missouri with the family. They were flying around the fireworks slowly, I guess making sure the atmosphere stays healthy in the face of so many things exploding in the air.

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  118. #118 Kellia
    July 12, 2011 am31 3:24 pm
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  119. #119 Admiral2012here
    July 12, 2011 am31 4:37 pm

    BELIEVERS IN MYSTERIOUS PLANET NIBIRU AWAIT EARTH’s END

    Renowned astrophysicist Carl Sagan once described a “baloney detection kit” — a set of tools that skeptical thinkers use to investigate any new concept. A few of the key tools include a healthy distrust of information that isn’t independently verified, critically assessing an idea rather than becoming irrationally attached to it simply because it’s intriguing, and a preference for simple explanations over wildly speculative ones.

    The waxing obsession with the planet Nibiru, which conspiracy theorists say is a planet swinging in from the outskirts of our solar system that is going to crash into Earth and wipe out humanity in 2012 — or, in some opinions, 2011 — shows that an astonishing number of people “are watching YouTube videos and visiting slick websites with nothing in their skeptical toolkit,” in the words of David Morrison, a planetary astronomer at NASA Ames Research Center and senior scientist at the NASA Astrobiology Institute.

    Morrison estimates that there are 2 million websites discussing the impending Nibiru-Earth collision. He receives, on average, five email inquiries about Nibiru every day

    http://www.space.com/12194-comet-elenin-planet-nibiru-doomsday-2012.html

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  120. #120 Robin.
    July 12, 2011 am31 5:18 pm

    High Council of Orion.

    12 July 2011.

    Channeler: Karen Doonan.

    Welcome beloved ones we are the high council of orion and we come to help support and guide you through the shifts in energy that are occurring at this time across the planet earth. Many struggle with these energies as emotions are now heightening for many. It is a time of clearing out dear ones, a time of allowing all to flow and that means allowing that which has been trapped within your hearts to go. Many are struggling with heart centred living and we guide this is due to not weeding out the seeds of fear within your BEing.

    The mind centred way of living will tell you that it does not matter that you still have people, places and events trapped within your BEing, it will logically try to tell you than you have lived this way for years and survived so there is no need to now go within and clear all of this out. It will take you down the route of “too busy today” so that for many it will be almost impossible to “find” time to go within. The mind will fill up with a list of chores and tasks to do that mean once more a human day goes past with more unease but no release from that unease.

    We note that many are not able to take time for themselves, such is the depth of illusion around “free” time in many human lives that there is never a “time out”. For many females across the planet this is a luxury that once they may have had but now no longer have and we guide you to look at this scenario and ask who this serves? Why would the illusion teach that you must fill in all your waking hours with tasks and chores? Why would there never be a moment for yourself to go deep within or even to switch off from all the chores and tasks? We guide you to disconnect from this illusion dear ones for in reality you have all the time that you need.

    The mind will try to persuade you that those trapped in your hearts are meant to stay there. Along with the teachings of illusion a mind centre life experience will logically tell you that they do no harm and may even teach you that there is something wrong if you do not keep people, places and events stored within you. We guide you strongly to look at this scenario and see how illusion keeps you trapped in a lower vibration and disguises this as love. Many are too full of fear to go within and see what resides within their hearts. As many never move past the first stages of grief it may seem impossible to start to remember the people held within your BEing without seeds of fear being triggered. For many of you will believe the teachings of illusion that state “best left alone”. It has been taught across the planet that once something is buried within your BEing that it should not be taken out and looked at, that it should not be “raked over” for fear of opening the same wound. Does our analogy makes sense to you dear ones, do you see how this keeps you trapped in a lower vibration?

    We do not ask that the human race look into their hearts and relive the pain that is stored there although the mind may try to rationalise it as this. We ask you to empty your hearts of the places, people and events that are stored there so that they may be released and healed. Whilst you store within your hearts you block the flow of the LOVE that IS. This serves no one dear ones as you will be healed with the LOVE that IS and the person who has transcended will be helped on their way by the same LOVE that IS. We fully acknowledge that for many across planet earth our words at this time will not resonate, many are deeply in illusion when it comes to human death and transcending. Many fully absorb the teachings of illusion which are that death is the end.

    We would like to guide further on human death and we guide you to look into your hearts and process the truth of human death dear ones. Death is the end of the physical and it is this physical representation of a human that you grieve for. Death is NOT the end for the soul, the soul and energy of that person are eternal, energy does not die it continually moves and changes. All that has happened in a human death is that the energy of the human has transcended the physical. This can be for any number of reasons, no human on earth has access to the reasons for anothers incarnation on the planet earth. No one can know when another is about to die, it is not predetermined as all can rewrite their scripts at any point. This is done at a high soul level and does not filter down into the conscious mind of the human concerned unless they are able to go into that space themselves. This would be highly unusual for a human at the level of consciousness that exists across planet earth at this time.

    We wish to make clear that whilst we guide that another cannot know the timing of another transcending that does not mean that those who have a very close emotional bond will not be alerted to that transcending. The two scenarios are completely different. Many humans have experienced the pull of the soul leaving the physical and have felt the passing of loved ones or humans they are closely connected to at the time of transcending. What we guide is that prior to the event when the human incarnates on the planet there is no way of another human knowing the life span of that human.

    The illusion teaches separation in all things and is densest around death and transcending of the human physical. Even the word death for many humans is enough to trigger deep seated fears to emerge and we ask why? All who incarnate on earth know that when that incarnation takes place at some point in the human life journey they will transcend the physical and move on. When a human being enters the physical plane of planet earth they are taught very early on in that incarnation that death separates and that death is something to be feared.

    Many of you are now questioning how our words of guidance can help with the ascension process as death is to many humans a subject that they avoid at all costs, it is precisely for this reason that we wish to guide on it. To ignore a part of the human life process because it brings up feelings of unease is to allow illusion to sneak in. If there are shadows dear ones shine light on them for they may harbour the seeds of fear planted by illusion. All seeds of fear wish to be allowed to grow within the darkness of the human psyche. The place where a human stores the “worst fears”, this is a place where the human is uneasy about visiting and the less this place is visited the more the seeds of fear can take hold. Do you understand our analogy dear ones, do you see how illusion works against you. Whilst you have fear within your BEing you have the potential for illusion to pull you back in.

    For many the heart is the place of darkness, for many humans the heart is a place that is hardly ever visited, there is no need to visit the heart in mind centred living as the heart is never brought into the equation. For many who live in the mind centred life experience do not need to check in with their hearts. Theirs is the life experience that is always processed by logic, the heart is not asked how it feels for the brain has already decided that logically it makes sense so the human goes along with it. Many have lived this way so long that going into the heart would be akin to going into a dark cupboard with no light.

    We guide you to within to your hearts and dust off the cobwebs, put the light on inside the cupboard and have a look around. Seeds of fear needed weeded dear ones, for once you allow the LOVE that IS to flow freely through your hearts you will experience a great release. No longer bound by the storage within your heart the people, places and events will be transmuted into the LOVE that they always were. You will feel lighter and freer then ever before and you no longer carry the weight of grief and negativity that you once did.

    The energies across the planet earth will trigger many dear ones and it is this trigger that we guide you to work with. If you feel yourself filling up with tears or anger or hatred then take this as the guide to where you need to look within your BEing for the seeds of fear. No negative emotion can be present in the human body unless seeds of fear have germinated. For many at this time of chaos and world change those seeds are being replanted at a rapid rate. We guide there is not a point where a human can stand back and say “ok I have weeded, no more work to do “ for many will find that they are uncovering layers of fear. The fear will have been planted generation after generation and the humans who have incarnated now on planet earth could well be carrying the fear of generations within them. Many of you have deliberately chosen to incarnate into families that fear is strong within to do this work. For many the layers of fear go on and on and we guide you to work with it. Continue to weed, continue to allow the LOVE that IS to flow through your heart and watch as the world changes around you.

    Many of you will find that those asleep around you will try to stop you from doing this work. Many humans are triggered with the words of death and will try to prevent you from talking or discussing those who have transcended. Be aware of their need to prevent you from doing this as this will bring up seeds of fear for them. But it cannot be healed unless the heart is open dear ones so we guide you strongly to do this work on your own. If discussing a human transcending is triggering those around you then we guide you to allow it to BE. Work with the heart dear ones, hold the space for those who feel the fear most intensely and allow the LOVE that IS to flow through you.

    For many across the planet it will BE the way that you begin to live your life that will be the key to those around you healing. For many have undergone transcending humans in a variety of ways and it is by moving through this, by showing those around you that LOVE can live in your heart that the healing process will be continued. Think if you will as it being a ripple on a pond effect. As you begin the healing process your vibration will heighten, you will FEEL the heightened vibration and you will be able to FEEL the energy of the human who has transcended the physical so much easier as grief is not preventing the connection. That will allow others who may be asleep to see that it is possible to live a human life experience and the transcending of a loved one and BE.

    Human consciousness is expanding dear ones and the changes are now beginning to ripple across the planet earth. As this heightens and expands the depth of emotion that many can access increases. See this not as a sign of failure but as a sign that you are moving through the layers. Deep healing is being processed across the planet dear ones, many are able to access SELF at a deeper level than ever before. As human consciousness expands the level of human suffering will decrease as the connection with source is made by more and more humans. They will be able to hold the space for those who are still asleep and this will continue dear ones.

    Do not look at this process as a huge mountain to climb, look at it as clearing out your BEing, sweeping the cobwebs from your BEing and allowing the light that lives within to shine out clearly and brightly to all around you. Human BEings are pure beings of light dear ones, that light is found within your hearts, as you clear away the debris you will allow that light to shine dear ones and you will be freer. Move into your freedom now dear ones, allow the veils of illusion to be penetrated by the bright light that you ARE.

    We are the high council of orion and we are your brothers and sisters from the stars. We guide at this time to help many move through the dust and cobwebs of their hearts to find the shining light that is a beacon within. None of you came here to live a life of slavery and drudgery dear ones, freedom is your birthright but only YOU can take that freedom to BE. We love you, we have always loved you,

    WE ARE ONE.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    In Light!

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  121. #121 Robin.
    July 12, 2011 am31 5:28 pm

    #112.

    Oh No! Not ‘BB’ AGAIN!!

    Smile

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  122. #122 Robin.
    July 12, 2011 am31 5:38 pm

    Addy #119.

    So do you suppose the ‘dark’ might wish to ‘create’ an ACTUAL cataclysmic collision between celestial bodies BY trying to get enough ‘UN-toolkitted’ twits to CREATE it thus, through their own (installed) fears/beliefs of it? Or it is enough for them just to get as many people as fearful as possible about ANYthing.. and that this (Niburu) is as good a ‘ploy’ as any??

    Hhmmm!

    In light!

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  123. #123 Admiral2012here
    July 12, 2011 am31 6:13 pm

    CARL SAGAN SPEAKS

    …Sagan kicks humanity down some important knowledge

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuJ3Tjj40P8

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  124. #124 Stick
    July 12, 2011 am31 6:17 pm

    Moon The MOON is a Titanium Ball from Ex-Planet Maldek Moon
    by Drekx Omega on July 12, 2011

    Selamat jarin….Dratzo,
     
    THE MOON- The current Moon is a hollow titanium spheroid, covered in dust and rock, attracted to the surface from space via gravity, over aeons…As I described to Ravinder Singh, this articial moon was once in orbit around planet Maldek, which was destroyed in the galactic wars and became the asteroid belt….An orbit that was placed between Jupiter and Mars.

    Earth’s living moons were both also destroyed in ancient times, when they were used as smitten projectile weapons against one civillisation or another..using Centaurian and Plejaren beamship particle weapons and tractor beams…The last natural Earth Moon was destroyed in 25,000 BCE and the target for the falling meteor debris was Lemuria. The attacker was Atlantis..This also smashed the Firmament…resulting in much flooding…As I said before, in those ancient times the Plejaren were in league with Earth’s Atlantean “dark hats.”

    Because so much ice fell to earth from the Firmament, flooding occurred as well as increased glaciation at the poles…thus an expansion of the ice age Pleistocene, until the final meltdown that defined the commencement of the Hollocene era…
     
    THE FIRST COLONISTS TO EARTH- All the original humanoid ET colonists that ended up on Earth, visited and settled other planets within this Solar system first, before finally coming to this one…The Lyrans and later their relatives from Sirius and the Pleiades..We are related to them genetically and spiritually… Earth was the last waterworld to be made habitable for Galactic Humans, as prior to that, it was the domain of the Reptoids…and too harsh a climate.

    Ancient Mars, Venus and Maldek were far more comfortable waterworld planets to live on in ancient times, when our Lyran ancestors first arrived in the Sol system… Most ancient pyramids, monuments and structures upon Mars, were from those earlier times…
     
    MODERN TIMES- Regretably, Sirian security forces were compelled, under Akamowai law, to remove some of these ancient monuments from the Martian surface in 2006, as they had been used as a criminal base of operations by some of our most dangerous fugitives, engaged in nefarious activities, in support of Earth’s Dark Cabal. These Sirian renegade MIBs have all been rounded up and no longer pose a threat to First Contact…
    A question was sent to me anent the Apollo space programme. What was it really all in aid of..??
    It was a propaganda stunt and a mixture of studio work, Earth desert locations at Nellis AFB, Nevada, as well as some real moon walking….To create the impression that America was “winning” the “space race,” using rocket technology….
    An attempt was made to investigate some ancient glass structures on the moon, which refracted light causing rainbow patterns upon the lunar surface and astronauts, during Apollo 12 and it’s various photo “technical hitches.” So the public were kept in the dark about the true mission then, as ever…
    That structure was an ancient base created by Lyran descendents..as the moon had no atmosphere, is artificial, and required an atmospheric dome structure to live within..
    So Apollo 12 really was on the moon and Apollo 13 was trying to introduce weapons to the mix….for cosmic political postures by the Dark Cabal. That was stopped.
    Of course, rocket technology cannot compare to aetheric energy craft, when it comes to REAL space travel…as it’s akin to trying to cross the atlantic ocean in a small one-man paddleboat..Well, remember the safety aspects too, with Space shuttle Challenger…??
    And currently, no manned missions are being permitted by the real space powers, namely the GFL…Unless the bad guys step down gracefully.
    What happpened in 1968-1972, with Apolo, will not be permitted again and that is the true reasons for it’s cessation…and the fact that nobody else has been to the moon since that time…
    Of course, when the PTB step down, Earth joins the GFL, then anyone will be allowed to travel to the moon and without requiring a passport…
    They will do so in proper space ships, not firecracker rust-buckets that use orbital slingshots, figures of eight and other bizarre methods to travel around the solar system…
    Currently and before First Contact, the only moonwalking that the Federation will be allowing Americans to engage in, will be the harmless type made famous by Michael Jackson…!!
    No strip mining on the lunar surface for Helium 3 will be allowed, either….so they can forget that dream. Strictly no moon visits by manned US craft until after First Contact.
     
    dramu kas….! (Sirian for much love) ~Commander Omega

    http://youtu.be/F_1f6LUc1eE
    ~FreedomCalling707—————————– Clock Yin Yang Star

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  125. #125 Admiral2012here
    July 12, 2011 am31 6:24 pm
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  126. #126 SunRaymond
    July 12, 2011 am31 6:29 pm

    Sun Rose Mail Laurinda!!! Mail Rose Sun

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  127. #127 Admiral2012here
    July 12, 2011 am31 6:36 pm

    MAN IN THE MIRROR (HD) MICHAEL JACKSON – MOONWALKER VERSION

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AhnZvl7p9M

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  128. #128 Robin.
    July 12, 2011 am31 6:41 pm

    From Stick #124.

    ‘..anyone will be allowed to travel to the moon and without requiring a passport..’

    Well, possibly this at least answers #102-3 for us Laurinda!!

    Thanks Stick!

    In Light!

    Smile

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  129. #129 Admiral2012here
    July 12, 2011 am31 7:33 pm

    COMMERCIAL BREAK – LONDON BRIDGE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8ZIqIutK7o

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  130. #130 Admiral2012here
    July 12, 2011 am31 7:51 pm

    SHELDAN’s NEW MESSAGE

    Dratzo! We return! We sit and wait in much anticipation high above you. We know that the divine moment for our Earth allies approaches! The dark has long been in control of your governments and, indirectly, your lives; and now this long reign of tyranny is to come to a long-awaited end. Certain agreements are ready to be made public which will dictate the termination of the dark’s rule. Although the new monetary and financial system is also ready for immediate implementation, the finalizing of a necessary set of accords constituting the legitimacy of the new temporary governments is still delaying matters. The heads of these interim regimes will completely revamp the world that is familiar to you. They will institute the distribution of universal wealth and set up new governance that is truly transparent and obedient to the people. These caretakers are to oversee the introduction of the sequestered technologies and the formal disclosure of our existence. Many dedicated adherents of the dark are to be revealed and arrested for serious crimes against the people and the world. And this is just the beginning.
    Restructuring government is one of their most weighty tasks: it entails nothing less than a full reexamination of the daily workings of government and the manner in which its many services are executed. It is essential that each of you play a role in assisting these caretakers in carrying out this in-depth overhaul. As you move ever close to full consciousness, you become more able to add your well-considered suggestions to the process, as it is this very process of open dialogue between citizens and the new governance that will make the transition smooth and constructive. Naturally we expect glitches and some bumpy times ahead, and we know that advice from us on many issues will be needed as this restructuring phase plays out. Reframing your entire global society in such a short space of time is a truly daunting undertaking, and you are being asked to ‘jump in the deep end.’ Differences of opinion between you are inevitable, and we therefore offer your Agarthan cousins and ourselves in the role of mediators and counselors.

    The path ahead of you is being paved by the actions of our Earth allies and by the series of formal announcements which are to completely transform the world you now know. A post-disclosure world will at first feel utterly different. Also, the dark’s increasingly ominous supremacy will be at an end. Resources hitherto withheld from you will be yours, and these will brighten your journey through the transition into a new reality and show you the undreamt-of potential you possess. Similarly, your relationship to Gaia is to change dramatically, and the presence of the Agarthans will stand your current notion of her geophysical make-up on its head! You will learn about how planets are created hollow, and this will found a new planetary physics, initiating a wholly new scientific paradigm for your society, one which combines Spirit and matter. These new physical sciences will lead to fresh views on the origins of life and the nature of physicality, allowing you to better understand what we are to bring into your lives.

    This revolutionary scientific and philosophic knowledge, as well as official confirmation by your governments of your collective ascension, will define your last days as surface dwellers. The next step will introduce you to the wonders and beauties of Inner Earth. Planets are magnificent Beings who possess both inner and outer realms. Our task is to help a planet to link these realms and to sustain them at their full potential. This work brings you into contact with the flora and fauna of both realms, allowing you to discover the amazing differences and similarities of the two worlds and thus, how the ecological balance is maintained. This husbandry is one of society’s primary tasks. Once you are fully conscious, all the animals and plants can speak to you and explain what they require to live and prosper. The podlets assigned to specific tasks at the planet’s various nodal points use this prime energy to sustain the complex ecologies of both realms. It won’t take you long to become true stewards of Gaia and all her life forms.

    Blessings! We are your Ascended Masters! The final parts to a very convoluted puzzle are now being put in place. Over the past few millennia, the dark and its earthly minions have been able to run this world as they pleased. Nevertheless, during this time the Light slowly gained adherents in key places, and these cracks in the dark’s solidarity allowed us to form several crucial secret societies around your planet, dedicated to serving your Ascended Masters. These organizations are now using their connections and resources to force the dark from its seats of power. This mission has produced a series of legal precedents which are about to achieve our aims, and we are ready to make the announcements, which will doubtless shock many of you. It is generally assumed that these illegal regimes are immune from change, but such is not the case! Prepare yourselves for some astonishing broadcasts in the immediate days ahead!

    The Light inundating your world in an ever-strengthening flow is melting the veil between your spiritual and physical realms. This action also raises the frequencies of your cellular RNA/DNA, waking people up in record amounts, and so the numbers of people calling upon us each day has risen exponentially. We hear your prayers and requests, and use our own energies to help and sooth your growing distress, which is a direct result of the increasing collapse of your reality. The dark is determined to cling to the wreckage they created, and we are equally intent on transforming it into Light. Heaven has given us the decrees to transform this ‘veil of tears’ and we are eager to finish this sacred task! In anticipation of this, our associates have placed themselves in positions where their triumph is now assured.

    The period we are passing through is when Mother Earth is to be made over to the Light. This process is nearly done. The end of this particular stage will be the formal announcements that proclaim that our space family is here and ready to disclose its program for the landings. At the same time, the first broadcasts from our Agarthan family will go out. We have lived among them for millennia and know how much they desire to reunite the realms of Inner and surface Earth. They intend to show you around their glorious world and prepare you for your journey back to full consciousness. The environs and residences where this is to take place are ready and waiting for your occupancy. We have supervised all the preparations and greatly look forward to completing your ascension. It is vital that the divine plan be manifested, and manifested now!

    Today, we gave you more information about the progress of some of the changes that are to transform your world. We also explained that a number of programs are close to instituting a new financial and monetary system, as well as several new caretaker governments. We look forward to meeting you in the physical and being your mentors during your return to full consciousness. Know, dear Ones, that the countless Supply and never-ending Prosperity of Heaven are indeed Yours! So Be It! Selamat Gajun! Selamat Ja! (Sirian for Be One! and Be in Joy!)

    http://www.paoweb.com/sn071211.htm

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  131. #131 Robin.
    July 12, 2011 am31 10:00 pm

    Star Star Star Star Star

    ‘THE 5th DIMENSION, THE HEAVEN OF NOW!’

    Peaceful, Beautiful, Truthful, Simple, Superbly presented.. a treat for your Eyes, Ears, Mind and Soul.. a stunning and ‘timely’ 10 minute REMINDER:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PunhF14sogU

    In Light!

    Star Star Star Star Star

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  132. #132 Robin.
    July 12, 2011 am31 10:49 pm

    SAUL. Update..

    ‘Judgment Closes Down Your Hearts:

    13 July 2011.

    Channeler: John Smallman.

    When the awakening of humanity occurs your joy will be boundless. You have been waiting a long time for this moment of transformation, struggling to release judgment, blame, and condemnation – which closes down your hearts – so that you could open your hearts to receive and share the abundance of Love that your Father offers you incessantly.

    Now forgiveness – the key to open your hearts – of yourselves and of others is being seen and experienced in what, until very recently, would have appeared to be the most unexpected places. It is the most wonderful gift that you can offer to one another, and the most useful, as it dissolves the feuds that have caused intense suffering to generations of families, tribes, nations, and various other groups that have found within themselves irreconcilable differences that led to conflict.

    The enormous increase in the numbers of you sharing forgiveness all across the planet is inspiring and uplifting, and is in marked contrast to the numerous conflicts that continue to bring misery and suffering to so many. You have all nursed and held on to grudges, judgments, and condemnation of those who have hurt or offended you and this brings you feelings, sometimes very intense, of bitterness when you call to mind those people and the offenses that they have committed against you. Bitterness is very damaging as it prevents you from experiencing any peace, contentment, or happiness, and if you engage with it by telling yourselves that you have a right to feel embittered, it feeds on itself until it pervades every area of your lives.

    Forgiveness dissolves bitterness. However, when you are feeling embittered, it can be very difficult to embrace it and let it melt the bitterness away. In those instances it can be very helpful to remind yourselves that those who have hurt or offended you are themselves experiencing considerable pain and suffering, which is why they attacked you in the first place, and this will enable you to feel some compassion for them. Once you start to feel compassion for them, your resentment will ease, allowing forgiveness into your hearts to dissolve any bitterness residing there. When that occurs you will find yourselves able to embrace forgiveness enthusiastically for the peace and contentment it brings you as the stress of unforgivingness fades away. Eventually you will find that your grudges and resentments are gone, that you rarely make negative judgments, and that you have forgiven everyone, including yourselves. Finally you will discover that you have even stopped forgiving because there is no longer any need to forgive because all that remains within you is love – love for all, because you are one with all as you progress together towards awakening.

    So embrace forgiveness and allow it to show you that there is truly nothing and no one to forgive, as you realize that pain, misery, and suffering are part of the illusion, and that when you forgive those whom you perceive to have caused those conditions, you have only love remaining within you. And of course this makes perfect sense because all were created from Love, in Love; no other state exists. Love is everywhere, It is all that there is, and so you are part of It, eternally and forever. It envelops and embraces all life, and nothing apart from It exists, as you will discover when you awaken – as you most surely will.

    With so very much love, Saul.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    IN Light!

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  133. #133 Stick
    July 12, 2011 am31 11:45 pm

    SaLuSa 13-July-2011

    There are many conflicting ideas as to how the final months will proceed through to Ascension. Our answer to that is to suggest that you do not hold too rigidly to your present views. Be ever ready to move according to what you learn as new, and be assured that much will be happening very soon. The entire picture is not held by any one individual, and many contribute to your knowledge. Intuitively you should know what to believe. In time there will be no doubts at all, as we will be able to be more open by contacting the public through television and the mass media. Also the Masters who are revered and whose word is respected, will walk amongst you once more. Be sure that by the time choices will have to be made, and people will know exactly what is at stake. Each soul will go within and become aware of their life plan, and if choosing not to ascend will have made a reasoned choice.

    Once people can grasp the importance of each soul exercising its freewill and making its own path, they will realise that relationships for the purpose of earthly experiences are often only of a temporary nature. Therefore be prepared for friends or even family members to choose differently to you. Just imagine how many relationships you have experienced through several hundred lives on Earth. Wherever you travel you will find that many souls will recognise each other for that reason. The love vibration is the strong energy that keeps the link alive between you. When you meet your true family amongst your Space friends, it will certainly be a wonderful reunion and you will immediately recognise them. Some of you will meet before Ascension when you are invited aboard their craft, but that will not apply to everyone. When you consider these more personal aspects, you will realise what a wonderful time lays ahead.

    The Chaos on Earth is actually increasing as the dark powers try to ignore the eventual outcome. Doing so will not make their problems go away, but will ensure their downfall, and it will also result in the changes becoming more urgent, and the people will clearly see that nothing short of a complete change will provide the answers. You are nearly at the half way house, where you have to decide whether you want to remain in duality or go forward and ascend. We know some of you wonder how that can apply to children or babes, and we will tell you that their decision was made before they incarnated. You might also question what the point is of them being on Earth for such a short period. The answer Dear Ones, is that they wish to link with their Earth family and it most likely means that they will go forward together.

    The Plan for this Universe is immaculate and your little Earth is so important to the final outcome. You have an affect on everything that is far greater than you could possibly imagine. Your vibrations are not helpful to the other Suns and planets and that bears little relevance to your size. It is the low vibration that can unsettle things such as their orbits, although it has to be said that the Light is at present the dominant force. We are doing all we can to keep it that way, and can assure you that we will succeed. When you come down to basics, you will understand that everything around you is energy in some form or another.

    The outpouring of energies that are being sent to Earth is achieving its goal of lifting you up. Many souls are noticing that they have slowly become much calmer, particularly when faced by circumstances that could easily have upset them. That is a sign that you are attracting the higher energies to yourself, and so it shall continue. As beacons of Light you are helping to transmute the lower energies, and hastening the time when they will have lost their power to dictate what takes place on Earth. Already it is declining and their frustration is showing as they hit out as a last desperate attempt to hold on to it. The Light grows faster and time is still speeding up, and that tells you how well you are doing in combating the attempts to deflect you from your path to Ascension.

    As individuals you find it hard to access how the changes are progressing, but know that we of the Galactic Federation are always engaged in some activities in connection with Ascension. Most of them are carried out beyond your sight or are so subtle that you would not notice them anyway. That is possible because of our advanced technology, and our ability to secretly monitor everything that is going in. One area that would interest you is where Chemtrails are concerned as we have been clearing them away, as we have done in the past to keep your skies free from nuclear fall out. That much we are allowed to do, as the dark Ones do not have it all their own way. Pollution in general is something that we have kept down, in both your interests and that of Mother Earth. When we can work openly and the actions of the dark Ones are brought to a halt, we will complete the cleansing and that will take next to no time.

    So you can see from the way we operate that you have little to worry about, as we are on top of the problems that beset you. We not only operate directly from our Spacecraft above your Earth, but also have some bases underground and on the seabed. Many have been in existence for millennia of time, and records of them exist in your ancient history. It is only in comparatively recent times that you have understood the meaning of such reports. Your flying shields, chariots, fiery balls and even Gods have been reference to the activity of Space Beings and their craft. In truth we have always been with you, and helped you out of problems that might have had serious consequences.

    I am SaLuSa from Sirius, and we continue with our enlightenment of you, and you have come so far in a relatively short time. You have a good understanding of our place in your lives, and the ability to question what you are given. That we encourage as you should satisfy yourself that what you accept is in line with your conclusions. We never enforce our words upon you, but simply ask that you carefully consider what we pass on to you. You must know by now that eventually only the truth will remain, and every soul will eventually reach that level of understanding through raising their consciousness. Keep going and the pathway will gradually become much clearer and free from obstacles.

    Thank you SaLuSa
    Mike Quinsey.

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  134. #134 Gunner
    July 13, 2011 am31 4:51 am

    Robin, their baaaaaaaaaack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    BB All the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  135. #135 Gunner
    July 13, 2011 am31 6:00 am

    I used to live very close to this area. Certain pockets are known for dark energies.
    Activated AGAIN – tomorrow – July 13th, 2011. This is a CYCLIC meeting of the Elite of this World.

    Please watch this video. It explains the history of this place with more links at You Tube. Please see the photo below
    of some Presidents who have been part of these cyclic meetings.

    This meeting is chosen with PURPOSE to be on a most auspicious planetary day, with the Sun in Cancer and the Moon in Capricorn. This meeting is on the 13th, the day BEFORE the Full Moon in Capricorn on the 14th, at 11:40pm PDST .

    Capricorn is ruled by Saturn – which rules: Politicians, Business, Power, Government, Organizations, Rigidity, Tradition, old age, sacrifice (this was and maybe still is practiced at Bohemian Grove) bone, skeleton, Ego complex and Super Ego, sacrament, long term matters, formal and conventional and more.

    Whatever these Illuminati members are planning – they have chosen the “intensity and power” of this Full Moon to activate their New World Order Plans – whatever that may be – at this late date. The Illuminati KNOW the Occult and Astrology. They USE this Ancient knowledge, they understand cycles – to plan their ritualistic practices at specific places and dates to give their dark plans more power.

    Alex Jones actually went, got in secretly, to observe a previous Bohemian Grove meeting years ago. That link is available on You Tube.

    This is a Must Watch.

    Video from Anonymous – Peaceful Resistance. Please Forward far and wide.
        
    LIGHTED, LOVE, GRACE AND PEACE – Crystal-VIV
    ——-Original Message——-

    Subject: Operation Bohemian Grove

    http://www.activistpost.com/2011/07/anonymous-operation-bohemian-grove.html

    __._,_.___

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  136. #136 Gunner
    July 13, 2011 am31 6:02 am

    Can someone please give me a short run down on the meeting that Alex Jones infiltrated on my 135 post. Oh man I would love to see that video as I always wondered if anyone came out that was at these meetings and actually told the truth as to what was discussed.

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  137. #137 Admiral2012here
    July 13, 2011 am31 6:33 am

    …Good Morn’n Gunner…here’s some info on Alex Jones and the Bohemian Grove

    http://www.infowars.com/bg1.html

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  138. #138 Gunner
    July 13, 2011 am31 6:37 am

    Good mourning Admiral, I knew you would come through, thanks a lot.
    BTW The energy yesterday and today has been awesome and my prayers are starting to be answered, I mean the prayers of getting back that child hood like excitement for life. Slowly but surely. I gotta post later about my ship encounter last night in my dream but I have to do some work right now.

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  139. #139 Admiral2012here
    July 13, 2011 am31 6:47 am

    …Gunner glad your prayers are be’n answered…can’t wait to hear your dream. Oh!…here’s another link describing the Bohemian Grove

    http://truthquake.com/2011/06/02/bohemian-grove-begins-2011-spring-jinks-elite-illuminati-retreat-presidents-ceos-satanic-rituals/

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  140. #140 Laurinda
    July 13, 2011 am31 7:24 am

    Addie: In July for the past couple of years, I have mentioned the Bohemian Grove rituals and shenanigans, no one was ever interested….hmmm, why the sudden interest THIS year????? Hey, maybe folks are actually waking up to the shadows all around them, eh?! lol Question Question

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  141. #141 Admiral2012here
    July 13, 2011 am31 7:33 am

    …Laurinda, I have a feeling there will be a breakthrough in exposing the Bohemian Grove this year, especially with Anonymous barging in on them. Anonymous is gathering there today…hmmm?…hopefully it will get some media coverage…can’t wait to see the results

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  142. #142 Laurinda
    July 13, 2011 am31 7:38 am

    I align myself with Divine Will, to express love,

    to choose the path of light and to elevate my purpose

    to that of the Divine Mind. Through my will, acting as

    an instrument of Thy Peace, I am a teacher,

    I am a healer, I am a leader, and I create the Beauty Way.

    And so it is.

    Amen. Rev. Angela Peregoff Heart Rose Sun

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  143. #143 Gunner
    July 13, 2011 am31 7:53 am

    Laurinda, my sudden interest in thes Bohemians is because of the people actually infiltrating their meetings. I seen so much history on the Illuminati that I dont even read it anymore. I love updated news and I cant wait to hear from anonymous.
    Admiral, what is anonomous up to at the meetings and how did he get to enter the meetings? I hope he comes out alive.

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  144. #144 dreamwalker
    July 13, 2011 am31 7:53 am

    #139 I’m probably just splitting hairs here, but I have a problem with the word “Satanic” in that article because to me in this context it sounds like a blanket statement that means the same as “non-christian”, which is applied to a fairly broad range of beliefs. Am I correct in thinking that “Luciferan” is a more accurate term here?

    “Satanic” = “of Satan” which is a christian construct, so a religion that supports the belief in Satan (and by extension, “hell”), and the conduct of rituals that are opposite to Christian belief. It is a “post-christian” belief system, but rituals borrow heavily from other pre-Christian religions.

    “Satanic” can also be applied to “Wiccan” and “Luciferan” which are (I believe) separate religions or practices; based on the descriptions that I’ve seen of these systems.

    “Luciferan” = pre-Christian belief system with Lucifer as the primary diety.

    “Wiccan” = pre-Christian belief system with Gaia as the primary diety.

    Also that photo is pretty blurry – do they KNOW it’s a statue of an owl or are they just guessing? Maybe more bull-like, perhaps?

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  145. #145 Gunner
    July 13, 2011 am31 7:54 am

    Ah I see Admiral, anonomous if just gathering there but I guess he is not going on the inside.

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  146. #146 Gunner
    July 13, 2011 am31 7:55 am

    Are the Bohemians the same as the bilderbergers? I thought the bilderbergers were the ones causing all this chaos in our world.

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  147. #147 Laurinda
    July 13, 2011 am31 8:04 am

    Yes Gunner, they are the same crew/club/elite/cabal/elite bloodlines

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  148. #148 Laurinda
    July 13, 2011 am31 8:06 am

    Yes dreamwalker, you are splitting hairs. These folks are Satanists and the statue is a 40 ft. tall owl, and Alex Jones was the first to get footage of these “people”.

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  149. #149 Laurinda
    July 13, 2011 am31 8:19 am

    Gunner” so delighted to see that you are connecting the dots… Yes

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  150. #150 Laurinda
    July 13, 2011 am31 8:24 am

    In the July 13 SaLuSa message he says that the GF is busy clearing our skies of chemtrails. I’d like to formally invite them to come on up here to North Idaho, where chemtrails are the norm even on the 4th of July, and yesterday as well!!!

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  151. #151 Gunner
    July 13, 2011 am31 8:28 am

    Laurinda, you were the first one I thought about when I read Salusas message regarding chemtrails. The thing that gets me that if so many pilots aborted the spraying and know the truth, how come none of their information is out even ifit is anonomous. They also keep spraying the the NYC N>J> Area but not as much as in the past.

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  152. #152 Gunner
    July 13, 2011 am31 8:30 am

    So all of our best grown potatoes, the Idaho potaoe, are3 being chemtrailed also. Eeeks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  153. #153 dreamwalker
    July 13, 2011 am31 8:31 am

    #148 Thanks Laurinda – I noticed he has a video there too and I’m trying to take a look at it now. I have to install Real Player to watch it, unfortunately.

    So I’m still confused though – I think we can all agree that “Satanic” is not “Wiccan” (even though at one point it was defined this way)… how about “Satanic” = “Luciferan” – are these the same thing? Perhaps “Satanic” is a “branch” of “Luciferan”??? (or vice-versa?)

    From Wikipedia:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanism

    Satanism is a group of religions that is composed of a diverse number of ideological and philosophical beliefs and social phenomena. Their shared feature include symbolic association with, admiration for the character of, and even veneration of Satan or similar rebellious, promethean, and liberating figures. Generally, those Satanists who believe in the Judeo-Christian concept of Satan are linked into the belief system of today’s Judeo-Christian religion, as they believe in the same theology presented in the Hebrew Bible.

    Satan, also called Lucifer by many Christians, first appears in the Books of Chronicles provoking David to take a census of Israel. In the Book of Job he is called “the Satan” (meaning “the accuser” ) and acted as the prosecutor in God’s court. A character named “Satan” was described as the tempter of Jesus in many of the Gospels of early Christians. Christianity and Islam typically regard Satan as the adversary or enemy, but extensive popular redactions and recompositions of biblical tales have inserted his presence and influence into every aspect of adversarial role back to the Creation and Fall. By Christians and Muslims especially, the figure of Satan was treated variously as a rebellious or jealous competitor to human beings, to Jesus, and characterized as a fallen angel or demon ruling the penitential Underworld, chained in a deep pit, wandering the planet vying for souls or providing the impetus for all worldly travesty.

    So what is stated here is that it is Christians who are equating Satan with Lucifer.

    I appreciate Alex Jones’ insight to this… some very interesting material there.

    Also from Wikipedia:

    Luciferianism can be understood best as a belief system or intellectual creed that venerates the essential and inherent characteristics that are affixed and commonly given to Lucifer. Luciferianism is often identified as an auxiliary creed or movement of Satanism, due to the common identification of Lucifer with Satan. Some Luciferians accept this identification and/or consider Lucifer as the “light bearer” and illuminated aspect of Satan, giving them the name of Satanists and the right to bear the title. Others reject it, giving the argument that Lucifer is a more positive and easy-going ideal than Satan. They are inspired by the ancient myths of Egypt, Rome and Greece, Gnosticism and traditional Western occultism.

    Although I was brought up as an Anglican Christian I do not consider myself a Christian. Baptized but not confirmed. Smile

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  154. #154 Laurinda
    July 13, 2011 am31 8:40 am

    Gunner, those Idaho potatoes are grown in the southern part of our state–a 10 hour drive from here. I do not know how many chemtrails the crops suffer down there however. The potatoes we buy up here are from the Pasco area where our granddaughter lives (eastern WA. 3 1/2 hours from here).

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  155. #155 Laurinda
    July 13, 2011 am31 8:43 am

    dreamwalker: you are in very deep waters here. The rituals that have been well reported, of the elite bloodlines are at best horrifying….Like I always say, SPIRIT is always watching and will in the end, handle these vessels of evil, shall we way…

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  156. #156 Gunner
    July 13, 2011 am31 8:53 am

    New post is up

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  157. #157 Steffie
    July 13, 2011 am31 9:58 am

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