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    SaLuSa 8-August-2011

    As you can see, the financial situation in the world is out of control and before much longer; our allies will have to step forward to implement the new policies. It does not take a genius to understand that creating more debt will not solve your problems, and debt forgiveness is the only certain way out. With the general disarray that is happening, people are realising that a totally new approach is required if you are ever to move on. What is necessary to do done is part of our plans, as the breakdown of your societies has been anticipated and allowed for by us. We wait the right time to instruct our allies to go ahead, knowing that our offer to help you through this period will be accepted. Once we are acknowledged and accepted by the majority, we can then proceed to reveal the mission we have to carry out and prepare you and Mother Earth for Ascension.

    Have some compassion for your leaders, as they are working to the old model which is now defunct. They do not have the power or will to tackle the problems in the way we are intending, and obviously it could not work without every countries co-operation. Since you normally believe in the survival of the strongest, you will always have inequality and great differences between the rich and the poor. A measure of how you view others is evident from your response to the serious famine in Somalia, and the urgent needs of the suffering and dying people. We are pleased to note that the public are responding to it, and doing so in times when many of you are under pressure yourselves. For too long you have been under the influence of the dark Ones, who mostly ignore the plight of others and have no compassion or love in their hearts.

    You ask why we do not come to your aid now but please remember that all souls presently involved in the suffering, have at a higher level already accepted it as part of their experiences. As we so often point out, in such circumstances our intervention would be seen as interference, and denying them the experience they have undertaken. It does not mean you cannot help, and the reaction of others to their plight is also part of their experience. Try not to judge situations without knowing all of the facts, as you cannot know what is behind decisions that other souls take. Duality by its very nature is testing and bound to place you in difficult situations, and often it is for you to find ways of dealing with it. Be assured your life plan will take you wherever it needs to fulfil it.

    Fortunately the less desirable experiences are being countered by the promise of extensive changes that are really underway now except that you are unable to see them. Also with Ascension approaching very quickly you have no need to dwell upon what is happening on Earth now, as the cleansing gets underway and with our coming will be speeded up. One thing is for certain, and that is the Earth will not be largely destroyed as some predict. It will not be hit by a comet or any other missile, and we will deal with any such threat. Yes, there are the inevitable physical changes that have already been taking place for some time now, but we monitor them.

    Your part Dear Ones, is as always to keep focussed on the future and not be distracted by any attempts to instil fear in you. There is of course fear still around, but that largely comes from a lack of understanding as to what is happening within your Universe. All is in a state of change and in the hands of exceptionally powerful Beings who will ensure that all action is completed In accordance with the Divine Plan. They oversee our activities and we have complete and utter faith in them. We obey their instructions to the letter, and know we are taking the best course of action for all concerned.

    If you knew how much interest there was in your Ascension, you would not worry about any developments that might involve you. Each of you is accompanied by a number of Guides or Angelic Beings, and they are with you to protect you and ensure you make Ascension if that is your wish. Some of you are aware of their presence, and all of you can communicate with them and indeed should do so if they are to be fully aware of your needs. Often the only time people call upon them is when they are in danger, and that is perfectly in order and they will “hear” your call. However, remember that they are also there as your spiritual mentors and helpers. They are pleased when you acknowledge their existence and engage in thought contact with them.

    In time you will meet your Guides and teachers, as your evolution is ongoing and does not stop with Ascension. However, once ascended your consciousness levels will be such that you will need fewer helpers in attendance. To be fully conscious is something you have to experience to understand the extent of your knowing, as compared to your unawakened state at present. The veil that has kept you this way is falling away, and as you draw more Light to yourself so you increase your degree of awareness. With it also comes the assurance that you can handle your own spiritual development. In fact you never stop learning, and the axiom that the more you know the more you realise how little you know, is quite true.

    At present you carry out a lot of reading, attend lectures or watch videos in your learning process. Again in the future you will be able to absorb the knowledge of a book load at the time through new teaching methods, and information can literally be downloaded into your brain. The laborious means you use now will be superseded by various new technologies, including implants. Schooling such as you know it will not be necessary, and you will choose the subjects that you want to follow and are therefore of interest to you. It will be known which subjects you need to develop to follow your ordained path, and time is not wasted on pointless exercises as now. Many of you will join a group consciousness, and that will immediately increase your level of consciousness through the sharing that takes place.

    I am SaLuSa from Sirius, and gratified that we can give you some idea of what the future holds for you. So far you will hopefully see that you have so much to look forward to and absolutely nothing to fear. Indeed, all the changes are to bring you into a peaceful and happy existence.

    Thank you SaLuSa.

    Mike Quinsey.

185 Comments
  1. #1 Gunner
    August 8, 2011 am31 7:28 am

    Good mourning everyone and a happy TGIM to all.
    ADMIRAL, LOOKS LIKE YOU HAD GREAT WEATHER BUT FROM WHAT i SEEN ON THE WEATHER CHANNEL, YOU GUYS ARE BAKING ALIVE. SUPPOSE TO BE 110 IN DALLAS TODAY AND THEN ADD THE HIGH HUMIDITY, GoTTA KEEP COOL AND DRINK PLENTY OF WATER. (damn caps locked again)
    The clouds, I have noticed for the past 2 years. Definetely a big difference than in the past

    OK, So James Gilliand sent me the crop circle with the et with a pipe in his mouth. His heading was this has got to be a joke , so I e-mailed him and said yea it is a joke but you gotta admit, it is pretty funny. His only question was was this man-made or computer generated. Can anyone answer this for him. To me it looks man-made because it looks like it is not a great job and a computer would have been more neat and geometrical. Can anyone add some light for James.

    Jersey shore was great for theiir opening in Florence Italy. That Florence does not look so nice, I dont think I want to visit Italy anytime soon. I think we have better pizza right here in Bayonne N.J. YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Jawow looks like whe got cancer, she lost so much weight but it looks bad on her face. I think (having had experience) she must have done a ton of cocaine. I looked like that during my 2 year stint on coke and even my mom though I might have cancer. Great way to lose weight but you just might die trying.

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  2. #2 Gunner
    August 8, 2011 am31 7:42 am

    Man, I actually hope no one stops by the DOGHOUSE tonight. I need a day off. People never stopped coming in and out all weekend. Chris was missing in action saturday night but we found him. Whitey could not even walk on saturday mourning and it was so funny. He gets up and stumbles, then as he almost made it through the next doorway he stumbles again and starts waving his arms in circles to catch his balance then proceeds to go backwards to his original starting place. So funny I was just hoping he would not fall because he is a big guy and in the past when he fell it was just about impossible to get him up so I would leave e him until he woke up. One time he slept for hours outside my bathroom. Then he gets out and almost flies through my glass window, he then looks at me and saids, oh man you tried to throw me through the window, I was LMAO.
    Thank god his friend bob was there to take him upstairs. Bob dont really drink he is just paranoid. He thinks his neighbors are witches and sucking out his muscles and indenting his skull. He will not even sleep in his bedroom so he has a roof outside the bedroom that he sleeps on or he will sleep in my basement with homeless rich. Ah, Just another normal day at the DOGHOUSE!!!! WHAT!!!!!
    At least I did get to go to walmart, man they do have great prices, and do other shopping with Ashley and Chris.
    My father is in the hospital getting those heart stints put in. I think he got 80 percent blockages. Appreciate everyone to send him light and love.

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  3. #3 st54tr2
    August 8, 2011 am31 7:54 am

    Ummm…is it only me that is confused by, “including implants”?? That does not sound very inviting and totally contradicts the way they say our body is suppossed to be…or will be…?? I don’t get it. More I think about it now…i’m not to sure about these messages. Frown

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  4. #4 Steffie
    August 8, 2011 am31 8:08 am

    Eeeeeeeeeeeeeks!!!! i’m now working on a whole new operating system on this pc, which is very weird and confusing… Confused but I will get used to it. Also, typical of IT wizards, it didn’t occur to my darling son that I may need the actual software, like word, excel, an email programme, etc….. These techies just don’t think like normal people!!! Laugh So I now have a fairly fast pc, with a browser – IE – that works………….. and that’s it!!! ha ha ha, bless him, he has spent many many hours doing this for me, so I should be grateful… Heart

    Kevlar #152 – that’s an awesome message! bless you for posting xx Heart

    Bateleur #171 – it was tempting to call in, but it was total mayhem, and I’m still feeling very fuzzy-headed, so wasn’t sure I would make any sense… then it was all over
    so quickly – gullible gullible sheeple Alien Star Alien

    My gosh, Wendy #172, your hospital story sounds awful! hope you are fully recovered now? Heart

    Thanks Stick #180! we seem to be on the road to recovery… my computer AND me!! Cool

    DW #195 hope you have a speedy recovery from that flu. It seems this is widespread, all over the planet, and it’s a particularly nasty strain, so do take care of yourself! and there are those who still don’t believe that biowarfare is happening!!!??? Really Pissed

    Aw Gunner #2 off this thread – so sorry to hear about your Dad, but I’m sure the stents will make a huge difference to him. Beaming abundant healing blessings, love & light Heart Sun Heart

    Folks… there are such confusing messages coming through at the moment, about the times we are in, and the times we are about to experience – and every single one of them is open to interpretation by any one person’s personal frame of reference. I’m really not sure what to think about it. But I have realised that, if I THINK too much, I will become even more confused and likely start to become fearful… So, I believe, the ONLY answer is to live in the moment and to just be the best I can possibly be at any point in time. No-one knows for sure how it is all going to pan out, there are so many unanswered questions, so many maybe’s, and so many assumptions. All I can do is act, as above, and always remain in full integrity, paying great attention to my intuition. If anyone has any other ideas, it would be great to hear them!! Rainbow

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  5. #5 Deneb
    August 8, 2011 am31 8:18 am

    #3, I didn’t like this part either. But almost all channelings have this somehow “off vibe” once in a while. The best is to not depend on any on them. After all, this is information coming from the outside… and we all know that what we need to do is listen within and TRUST our own divine presence. So easy to say… but so hard to do on a consistent basis! It’s “the key” but for some reasons we are hesitant to understand and embrace this truth in the core of our being.

    On another subject, yesterday I watched the “Source field investigations” video and it is really damn good! Good job David Wilcock! I think I will buy the book. I have criticized Wilcock in the past for apparently being too centered on himself but I think I was mistaken. It’s just that he knows how to promote his books/conferences/videos, etc. He is a very good copywriter, nothing wrong with that… because the things that he is promoting HAVE REAL VALUE.

    Anyway, check his video if you haven’t already: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR-klTa1y54

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  6. #6 Robin.
    August 8, 2011 am31 8:44 am

    Addy #200. Previous Deja Vu’s !

    I Love em! But maybe I just I sense that they’ve ‘happened before somewhere’.. MORE than once!

    Also I think: “Great, Addy’s got a new vid up!”
    But then: “Oh no it ain’t!”

    Also personally, I have to watch my ‘download’ MB limit here.. and once I’ve seen a thing, it kinda ‘wastes’ my creds downloading it yet again.

    ALSO, I found a way to easily stash your good downloaded Youtubes straight onto the HDD as a file.. so can/already do, watch ‘repeats’ without having to RE-download every time!

    Here’s another anyway:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us-TVg40ExM

    Maybe just put ‘Re-post’ or ‘Repeat’ after it or something?

    Smile

    Smile

    Smile

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  7. #7 Robin.
    August 8, 2011 am31 8:46 am

    #200. DW. Implants; Previous:

    Hhmmm, Yeah.. Nidle actually HAS an ‘implant’ apparently. Do you suppose we get a ‘chip’ inserted into our brain.. or is it purely a ‘psychic’ or neuronal download of some sort? I’m not sure I’m so keen on the possibility of the former!

    Or we can get REALLY paranoid and state that this entire scheme is just a way to finally takeover and brainwash the entire Earth Human population.. under the GUISE of ‘..knowledge of a book load at the time..’ surpassing all of our previous technologies.

    I don’t really think that.. but could do with a little further reassurance! Yo!

    In Light!

    Smile

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  8. #8 Gunner
    August 8, 2011 am31 8:47 am

    I actually loved the new Salusa message and would not be worried about implants at all. They are probably done for down loading knowledge in our brains at a very fast rate instead of going to school for countless years and wasting our time. This is great news for me as I always hated and detested shcool so much and to this day even the thought of going to school makes me sick.
    BTW I ask again does anyone have more info on the hoaxed crop circle with the et with a pipe. ??????????????????

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  9. #9 Admiral2012here
    August 8, 2011 am31 8:57 am

    KENNEDY TAPES: LYNDON JOHNSON, TEXAS TYCOONS BEHIND ASSASSINATION, JACKIE

    A look at some once secret tapes recorded by Jackie Kennedy will claim she believed that Lyndon Johnson and a band of ‘Texas Tycoons’ were likely behind the death of her husband.

    The tapes will be played in an ABC special, according to a report from the UK Daily Mail.

    The report claims that shortly after President John F. Kennedy’s assassination, Jackie Kennedy recorded a series of tapes with historian Arthur Schlesinger, Jr. and those tapes will now be revealed.

    The tapes were sealed in a vault at the Kennedy library for 50 years, but will be released early as Jackie’s daughter “Caroline Kennedy reportedly gave them to ABC News in exchange for their dropping a mini-series about the Kennedy’s starring Katie Holmes.”

    More tape revelations, according to the report:

    The sealed tapes reportedly reveal that the “President was having an affair with a 19-year-old intern and that she had affairs with movie stars such as William Holden in retaliation.”

    There is no date set for the ABC broadcast

    http://www.nationalledger.com/politics-crime/kennedy-tapes-lyndon-johnson-160489.shtml

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  10. #10 Vee
    August 8, 2011 am31 9:00 am

    #3 “The laborious means you use now will be superseded by various new technologies, including implants.”

    I agree with you. Why would we need implants?

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  11. #11 Robin.
    August 8, 2011 am31 9:01 am

    #8. Totally Gunner.. great message indeed!
    And clearly you detested ‘shcool’ as indeed did I.. Smile BUT, I think if we are to be offered such amazing timesaveing info download services by our beloved GFL, they might first tell us just a little more about the nature of HOW it functions!

    I mean, we are also being told that our Pituitary and Pineal glands are at present morphing and mutating in order to blend and facilitate the hemisphere’s of our Brains into super rapid multidimensional consciousness computers.. do I NEED a ‘chip’ inserted in there as well??? Is that what is meant???

    (Maybe just the pipe is a hoax ‘add-on’ to an ET ‘original’?) Cigarette

    In Light!

    Smile

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  12. #12 dreamwalker
    August 8, 2011 am31 9:02 am

    #3 (etc.!) Implants are just cell phone technology taken further. Everyone carries around cell phones, an implant is just a more convenient version of that. What we fear currently is what “others” do with this technology… and so what we NEED is an ENVIRONMENT where the fear no longer exists. This depends on the enlightenment of humanity!

    HAARP is an example of technology currently used against us that could be used for real benefits to humanity. It’s the people controlling it that are the problem!

    #4 Thanks for your well wishes Steffie, I’m on the tail end of it, and am grateful for the extra time off. Smile

    #8 Gunner there’s video out there showing how the hoaxers make the crop circles but I guess that won’t help you. I don’t have any info on the people who made the alien smoking circle, but it sure looks to me based on the grass patterns that it was man-made. That’s a pretty big clue that it’s not CGI either… although I suppose it could be with photoshop’s cloning tool.

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  13. #13 Robin.
    August 8, 2011 am31 9:11 am

    #12 etc..

    MOBILE PHONE TECHNOLOGY?? WOT??

    How the hell do you know THAT??

    I don’t USE a mobile telephone for the very reason that it happily FRIES my Brain!
    Why would I want one of those ‘taken further’ and strapped to my neurones?

    I think I prefer good old fashioned Telepathy, thank you! Smile

    Star

    Smile

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  14. #14 Admiral2012here
    August 8, 2011 am31 9:58 am

    …Gunner, here is a new article on the Smok’n Alien crop circle

    NOW EVEN ET IS MAKING CROP CIRCLES (with a little help from GPS and MICROWAVES)

    UFO fanatics clinging to the belief that extra-terrestrials are responsible for crop circles sometimes like to echo the X Files catchphrase: ‘The truth is out there.’
    But, as it turns out, the answer might actually be much closer to home – inside your kitchen in fact.
    Because, for example, this 200ft image of a pipe-smoking alien – carved into a Wiltshire field – could have been created using an ordinary microwave oven, according to scientists

    READ MORE

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2020910/Crop-circles-Now-ET-little-help-mircowaves-GPS.html

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  15. #15 dreamwalker
    August 8, 2011 am31 10:05 am

    #13 well that’s a very good point. Arthur C Clarke explored this very topic in his 3010 A Space oddessy.

    But of course we do give wheelchairs to those who can’t walk… Perhaps this technology could be used for those who cannot “see”. In a world of telepaths, those who we now know as “normal” would then require assistance to get them “on the grid”, because they are then at a disadvantage.

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  16. #16 Admiral2012here
    August 8, 2011 am31 10:12 am

    MATTHEW – CROP CIRCLES

    20. It would be a bit of a stretch to try to snugly fit crop circles into this, although their amazingly intricate and precise patterns are created by moving light beams. The circles have their own purpose—to reassure you who believe in extraterrestrial civilizations that they are this close to you so it must be in friendship, and to wake up the minds that accept explanations only from science or religion. With the increasing frequency and complexity of the circles, those minds cannot much longer deny that there are forces in operation that call for looking beyond traditional sources. We know that some of you want to decipher the exact meaning of each design, but that isn’t necessary for understanding the message of all: We are with you in love and peace

    http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=41

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  17. #17 dreamwalker
    August 8, 2011 am31 10:13 am

    #14 I can just see all these guys wandering around a field, with microwave ovens and 2 miles of extension cord. ROFL!!!

    That would be the “bending wheat for crop circles” setting. Just be careful you don’t hit “popcorn” by mistake!

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  18. #18 Gunner
    August 8, 2011 am31 10:30 am

    Thanks a lot robin, Dw and Admiral. Yeah I hear what you are saying with the implants and it also made me wonder that if our brain power is going to be 100 percent then we wont need the implants. When the time comes I am sure all will be explained and you all will know what to do.
    That crop circle does look man made and if I got to say it is a pretty sloppy job. Notice the 2 elongated circles to the side of ET and how they dont match geometrically. Also the circle made look like they were in a rush and not tooo fond of doing a good job, again very sloppy work. and it could have been taken from a past picture with the pipe added on later. I still think it is so funny and I wonder if the ETs themselves got a laugh out of it. I just figured by now the hoaxers would be out of the closet by now to take credit and feed their ego.

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  19. #19 Gunner
    August 8, 2011 am31 10:32 am

    Im Sorry, the circles I mentioned areat the end of the eyes there it does not match at all. Microwaves, wow then I could make one in my yard. Crop circles and Popcorn Robin, hey about a movie also.

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  20. #20 Gunner
    August 8, 2011 am31 10:33 am

    BTW Where has Laurinda been. Maybe on vacation?

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  21. #21 Gunner
    August 8, 2011 am31 10:39 am

    I see your Matthew point on the circles Admiral. I also read that is is a joint ventre with the consciousness of the crops. That is why scientist who study this can easily verify the ones made from humans and the ones they cant explain. Human ones show quite clearly the snapping of the crops while ET ones seem to scientist that they actuall bent by themselves. There is also a difference in the seeds in ecah stalk but I dont fully understand that. I heard the ETs connect with the consciousness of the crops and form them together with their minds, light technology may also be involved but the crops also have something to do with it. Hey, Obama has an emergeny speech today. The market is crashing again. People in work think I am nuts for celebrating this news but the security officer also agreed saying the stock market is a farce and this was meant to happen and not go back to the ways of the old systems/.

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  22. #22 Steffie
    August 8, 2011 am31 10:43 am

    Gunner, I haven’t seen the crop circle you are talking about but, just by description, I would say it is the work of some bored jokers who are taking the p… out of the real thing. Same goes for that one of the “alien face” recently – it was not at all symmetrical and, for me, that is a dead give-away… just my thoughts Big Smile xx

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  23. #23 dreamwalker
    August 8, 2011 am31 10:46 am

    Laurinda is off on training for healing skills I think, Gunner.

    The problem with the circle hoaxers is that it tends to destroy the crops so the farmers get ticked off with them. Sometimes they repay the farmer but mostly they don’t, from what I hear.

    Also I think I saw an earlier article on fox news that was similar to that microwave article. Ya its Fox news, and they were taking the angle that circles are 100% man made. Of course!

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  24. #24 Robin.
    August 8, 2011 am31 11:01 am

    DW. #15.

    As far as I am aware Carke wrote four books in the ‘Odyssey’ series:

    ’2001: A Space Odyssey’ (1968).
    ’2010: Odyssey Two’ (1982).
    ’2061: Odyssey Three’ (1987).
    ’3001: The Final Odyssey’ (1997).

    None of which were entitled ’3010 A Space oddessy’ as you suggest.

    However, We are told that all 5th dimensional beings communicate using Telepathy.. that they know the innermost thoughts of others. Clearly etiquette is required. I would assume that a natural evolution from 3D to 5D, (as we are also told, we are in the process of achieving) would automatically include the development of an inherrent and full telepathic ability.. perhaps there will be a few who do require the telpathic equivalent of a ‘wheelchair’, as you also seem to suggest.. but even this is not the point, DW.. WHAT is the ‘Implant’ referred to by SaLuSa? It appears to be a part of some process by which we can download entire books of knowledge/information, in a short period of ‘time’?

    ‘The Matrix’?

    My question remains therefore: Is this an organic ‘psychic tranfer’ process or is it one that requires a physical technological (physiological?) implant prior to becoming effective? Both would presumably require the full, conscious and prior freewill consent of the ‘participant’ anyway?

    I too hope we hear more from SaLuSa on this matter therefore.

    In Light!

    Smile

    #17. Ha! And the 20KVA Generator and the GPS markers.. and the trucks to tranport it all! Smile

    Star

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  25. #25 rawanderer
    August 8, 2011 am31 11:13 am

    Regarding the implants, has anybody here read the book Entangled by Graham Hancock?

    There is a part of the book where one of the main characters, through a DMT experience, is transported to the realms of Nirvana where she communicates with an ascended being known as “The Blue Angel”

    The Blue Angel implants a crystal into the main character’s skull, and tells her something along the lines of “This crystal implant will bypass the difficult ways you first arrived here, so when you take the DMT again you will be transported directly to me”

    Don’t quote me on that, because it’s not quite what was said. But still, interesting no? The main character gets a crystal implanted into her skull by her ascended guide, and it makes it easier for her to visit the realms of Nirvana! I’m sure SaLuSa was speaking along those lines. Much Love! Smile

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  26. #26 dreamwalker
    August 8, 2011 am31 11:21 am

    Thanx for the correction Robin… I meant the last one he wrote but was going from memory. Sorry about that.

    Most of the tech I’m talking about has already been developed in labs. For example using blood as a semiconductor, or using bloodflow or body movement to generate electricity. We just won’t say anything about where they have to put the battery… *cough* Wink

    If my memory serves (and you can tell it’s not that great!) The thing that Salusa is talking about was mentioned by Ptaah in conversations with Billy Maier. The specific question was how the Plejarans could speak perfect english. Ptaah mentioned a device they used to download information directly, for example, a vocabulary, which made learning language and speaking it fluently a matter of a few hours. He mentioned that sleep was involved in the process.

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  27. #27 Robin.
    August 8, 2011 am31 11:24 am

    RW #25.

    But we already house a crystaline structure within our Brain! The ‘Master Cell’ is the perfect replica of our own DNA Blueprint.. held within the Pineal or the Pituitary.. (I forget which).. the brain can and does produce it’s OWN ‘DMT’.. our entire bodies are becoming ‘crystaline’!

    WHY therefore, do we ‘need’ any IMPLANTS?

    Smile

    Star

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  28. #28 dreamwalker
    August 8, 2011 am31 11:27 am

    Wow looks like anti-corporation riots going on all over london. Sounds like this is being under-reported too.

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  29. #29 Robin.
    August 8, 2011 am31 11:31 am

    DW #26.

    No probs Bro!

    So you feel it IS a ‘tech’ implant?

    SaLuSa/Nidle (now it’s my turn to forget which.. again! : ) mentions a ‘device’ that will be issued to all Earth Humans soon after mass contact, that will enable/allow them to speak to each other anywhere, despite their native tongue/language and be fully and clearly understood. My impression was distinctly that this was NOT an ‘implant’ but a Galactic version of the iPhone more like!

    My question still remains therefore! The ‘implant’ referred to allows massive data downloads.. not, apparantly, instant multi-lingual individualised Global communication?

    In Light!

    Smile

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  30. #30 Deneb
    August 8, 2011 am31 11:32 am

    #27 Amen to that

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  31. #31 Robin.
    August 8, 2011 am31 11:39 am

    #28.

    London’s Burning!
    NY Next?

    Star

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  32. #32 rawanderer
    August 8, 2011 am31 11:40 am

    Robin, if this whole implant thing is true, than it will certainly be our choice whether or not we wish to have it. I wonder if SaLuSa wasn’t simply trying to get us to sharpen our discernment, to not rely too much on the info coming from channeled messages as they can sometimes be misleading. The best way to do that is to say something that will have people going, ‘wait what? that doesnt sound right..’

    Make sense? Still, if this whole implant business is true, I say bring it on. I understand the fear surrounding the subject of implants, and Robin you are correct in that we don’t ‘need’ said implants as we contain everything we need in our bodies. Still, these implants could be for the purpose of reconnecting ourselves to those parts of ourselves easily, which is a process that could otherwise take many years to develop. I hope I am making sense. If not, oh well!

    Much Love Smile

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  33. #33 rawanderer
    August 8, 2011 am31 11:44 am

    Robin,

    “My question still remains therefore! The ‘implant’ referred to allows massive data downloads.. not, apparantly, instant multi-lingual Global communication?”

    I have been getting massive ‘downloads’ of information recently pertaining to a whole host of subjects. It has been wonderful! And all without any implants!! xD

    Regarding this whole Light technology subject, I am looking forward to the Light Chambers!! Grin

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  34. #34 Robin.
    August 8, 2011 am31 11:59 am

    RW #32.

    SURE! It MUST be a freewill allowance or we may as well just be Guinea Pigs in someone else’s ongoing ‘experiment’!

    Surely there’s a subtle difference between ‘discernment sharpening’ statements and straight and potentially transparent Bullsh*t? (I am not however suggesting that this IS the latter! : )

    A similar ‘thread’ runs through Nidle’s work too.. that of the individualised ‘Light Chambers’ of Inner Earth, where we are supposedly to spend a time ‘cooking’ in order to raise our consciousness to it’s fullest potentials!

    I still question WHY should we not be able to achieve all of this both naturally and ‘organically’? Did not The Creator have all this ‘worked out’ in our initial ‘design’?
    Is there perhaps now a further ‘glitch’ that no one foresaw?
    Has Reptilian interference in our genetic blueprint over-ridden the ability of Central Galactic Evolution Intelligence to cope directly with providing sufficient natural ‘light packet’ downloads to cater for this mutational potentiality/eventuality??
    Are we then thereby, to be simply ‘plugging in’ to yet another ‘level’ of The Matrix?
    Are these ‘implants’ psychic or physical?
    If we choose to say “Thanks.. but No Thanks!” to this ‘assistance’, where does that leave us.. a brick short of a load upon the Ascension Ladder?

    I need a bit more ‘clarification’ first, I reckon!

    #33. Well maybe you can ‘download’ some more detailed info upon just ‘WHAT’ this ‘implant’ IS, for us? Please? Smile

    In Light!

    Star

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  35. #35 dreamwalker
    August 8, 2011 am31 12:03 pm

    #29 I’m elaborating on Salusa’s point from what I know. I agree with you though, that kind of statement needs elaboration. We already are working on all that. Otherwise why bother? Just strap me to the hoverchair already!

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  36. #36 Robin.
    August 8, 2011 am31 12:16 pm

    #35.

    Right.. so we just don’t ‘know’!
    And there is such a difference between ‘working on’ and BEING ‘worked on’!
    OK.. I’ll have the Hoverchair implant please.. AND the hyperlight drive-system to go with it!

    Star

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  37. #37 rawanderer
    August 8, 2011 am31 12:22 pm

    Robin, I will ask my guides about it. But what you have to understand is that this divine technology IS organic! Our ascended friends impart their own consciousness into said technology, it is nothing like the ancient technology we deal with daily!

    I think the tech is simply meant to assist in this process. Since consciousness is imparted into this technology, the tech itself is not actually required, and one can say ‘no thanks’ to this technology and still be able to experience the benefits the tech offers in another way. The technology is simply the ‘shell’ of the consciousness that helps us to advance!

    I think our friends speak of their technology helping us as a way to make us more comfortable with the whole process, as technology is something we on Earth can relate to. I agree with dreamwalker though, a statement such as the one SaLuSa made does require a bit more elaboratioin! I’m sure SaLuSa will elaborate a bit more on this subject in the next message, and if not I’ll ask Laura Tyco to ask him about it.

    Much Love Smile

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  38. #38 Robin.
    August 8, 2011 am31 12:38 pm

    Oh Jeez.. I’ll ask him myself!! Smile

    Yes.. I am trying to understand whether this ‘implant’ technology is either ‘Divine’, Psychic or Physical in nature, or any combination of these and until this IS clearer to me I do not HAVE to understand anything, OK?! I reserve discernment upon ALL that I ‘read’. Smile

    Agreed however, if consciousness is imparted to tech and we are then given that tech.. this does NOT contitute an ‘implant’ (or an invasive action of any sort).. BUT this remains totally and utterly unclear, simply from the basis of what SaLuSa states to us here. The rest is pure conjecture.. so far!

    It seems that the entire Galactic Federation is actually and literally ‘held together’ with ‘technology’.. all be it far beyond the levels and understanding of our own primitive sorties in to this field.. yes! Is that therefore also ‘Divine Technology’?

    I am a technocrat too.. but.. none of this yet answers my question!

    Rock On!

    Smile

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  39. #39 rawanderer
    August 8, 2011 am31 12:42 pm

    I apologize Robin. Simply trying to help.

    Much Love!! Smile

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  40. #40 Gunner
    August 8, 2011 am31 12:57 pm

    Steffie, here it is and you are probably going to be cracking up.
    http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2011/cherhillwhitehorse/Cherhill70a.jpg

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  41. #41 Robin.
    August 8, 2011 am31 1:00 pm

    RW #39.

    No, No.. please don’t apologise!

    You ARE helping! Smile
    Keep on spitting it out! All good stuff, Bro!
    I like the discussion!
    (I am just not certain how much more accurate than Quinsey’s own ‘version’ of SaLuSa, that of any other, may eventuate to be, however!)
    Let’s see if he comes out with any ‘further details’ then!

    In Light!

    Smile

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  42. #42 Gunner
    August 8, 2011 am31 1:06 pm

    Robin, 29 I remember that one and it was on my mind during this discussion

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  43. #43 Gunner
    August 8, 2011 am31 1:09 pm

    Robin and DW I’ll take the full works,ultra mega selection of goodies. I dont know about that, as I may come out as a robot, “take me to your leader”

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  44. #44 Gunner
    August 8, 2011 am31 1:15 pm

    I agree RW 37 and good point. I also read how the ET’s explained their ships as beingorganic and actually with a consciousness. I dont understand that but with what you brought up, I was reminded of their ships. We will one day understand this all, one day at a time. And this is only the beginning.

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  45. #45 Robin.
    August 8, 2011 am31 1:16 pm

    Gunner..

    #40. Ha! You’d HAVE to be a stoned Human to even think up that particular ‘crop circle’ wouldn’t you?!! Must’a been a GOOD ‘crop’ Wink

    #42. Yeah.. was it SaLuSa?

    #43. They’ll probably just show you a picture of this crop circle and say: “Sorry he’s ‘unavailable’ at the moment!” Smile

    #44. Sure.. but WE still don’t know if this is the ‘nature’ of the afore mentioned ‘implant’ yet, or not.. do we!

    In Light, Smoke.. and Mirrors!

    Smile

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  46. #46 Gunner
    August 8, 2011 am31 1:19 pm

    10 minutes and monday is already over. Gotta go see what happened on big brother last night. Have a great night everyone. Dont forget to turn down your implants for a good nights sleep.

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  47. #47 Robin.
    August 8, 2011 am31 1:22 pm

    Don’t forget to turn your BIG BROTHER TV IMPLANT OFF before You go to sleep either!!

    Yawn!

    Smile

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  48. #48 bateleur
    August 8, 2011 am31 1:36 pm

    I am able to receive a few German TV channels. One channel is currently showing the “V” series with negative aliens, which seems like a spy movie; anyhow, afterwards however the channel will broadcast a story “Are Aliens living among us?” with a report by the Swiss Ufologist Erich von Daniken. Of course there will be debunkers too. I will stay up late and watch this though.

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  49. #49 rawanderer
    August 8, 2011 am31 1:37 pm

    Kellia, if you are around I reccomend you listen to this song:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pq_3OheqzU

    Hearing this reminded me of our debate before, when you described all of the wonderful things you would do if you were president. I imagine that Wyclef would do much the same, but notice the lyrics of the chorus:

    “If I was president
    I’d get elected on friday
    assasinated on saturday
    buried on sunday
    If I was president”

    I think the only reason Mr. Obama hasn’t been assasinated for trying to enact real change is because he is backed by our forces of Light. Think about it dear Kellia.

    JFK attempted to introduce our space family and enact debt forgiveness, look how easily he was picked off. Even Lincoln was assasinated, more than likely for political reasons.

    Kellia, if indeed you were president I think you would at least try to enact real change, with a pure and honest heart. The hold the dark cabal has had on the government is very clear however, so I ask you to question if when you started making all of your decrees, the people who were supposed to be under your command would actually listen. I honestly do not think they would, as they did not with Obama.

    I can bet he made many of the same decrees, and what happened to him as a result may be the very thing that would happen to you; the dark would work with all of their might to get as many souls as possible to hate you, as a method of weakening you. Is it fair? Absolutely not. But this is the structure of government that has existed for the last century.

    I hope what I said is making sense. In Love dear friend Smile

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  50. #50 Robin.
    August 8, 2011 am31 1:43 pm

    #48. Bateleur.. Yo! I thought ‘V’ was spookily brilliant actually!

    Looking forward to your ‘report’ anyway!

    Smile

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  51. #51 dreamwalker
    August 8, 2011 am31 2:08 pm

    #48 Von Daniken wrote Fingerprints of the Gods and Gold of the Gods, in the late 70′s. That should be well worth watching Bataleur as he has clearly done his research.

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  52. #52 Lux Aeterna
    August 8, 2011 am31 2:22 pm

    “Again in the future you will be able to absorb the knowledge of a book load at the time through new teaching methods, and information can literally be downloaded into your brain.” YES, now I dont have to learn the pointless world history!

    “Again in the future you will be able to absorb the knowledge of a book load at the time through new teaching methods, and information can literally be downloaded into your brain.” WTF. That doesn’t sound natural at all. I thought universal knowledge was like knowledge you have spiritualy. I honestly wouldn’t care for technology if after ascension. Why the hell would I need to download data if I had universal knowledge? I actually am getting paranoid. I’ve always wondered if this was a way for the illuminati to brainwash us. What if this is a clever trap?

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  53. #53 Robin.
    August 8, 2011 am31 2:55 pm

    Smile

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  54. #54 Robin.
    August 8, 2011 am31 3:00 pm

    Does anyone remember ‘The Prisoner’, a classic 60′s British TV series, starring, written and produced by Patrick McGoohan?

    Kinda spooky-spy-psycho-thriller stuff.

    “I am NOT a number.. I am a Free Man!” etc?

    At one point in the final episode, he gets to ask the Giant Mainframe Computer running the whole gamut, ONE single question..

    He asks it: “WHY?”

    And instead of answering: ‘Because!’.. it whirred and flashed faster and faster, until it simply exploded into thousands of small useless fragments!

    So, if in doubt, just ask your friendly ‘Implant’ the same question!

    Whoops!

    Smile

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  55. #55 Lux Aeterna
    August 8, 2011 am31 3:19 pm

    Sorry guys, I just read the all the comments. I just want ascension to be a natural procedure. I don’t want some chip inserted into my head… But if the GF gives me a good reason for it, I’ll consider it.
    I know no one wants to believe it, but just consider this a possibility that they are the exact opposite of what they say. I just dont want anything bad to happen to you all.

    Anyway, I just finished my 1st day of high school. I think I’m going to have fun!

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  56. #56 Robin.
    August 8, 2011 am31 3:21 pm

    From Beckow’s 2012S Forum:

    Michelle says:

    ‘..My own personal take on “implants” is that the idea is a useful one, when done properly – not like the invasive forced implants we hear about in the world today.

    The implants that SaLuSa and Sheldan Nidle refer to, I feel, are more along the lines of wearing a crystal necklace: You receive energetic benefits of heightened power, consciousness, etc. through having a crystal close to you, or by dropping it in the water to alter the vibration of the water you drink, etc. You can remove these implants-of-higher-learning at any time, or choose to not use them at all.

    Have you seen the drawings of higher-dimensional beings wearing jewels or symbols on their foreheads? Perhaps this is like an “implant” of sorts. It’s not like a chip that programs you against your will. Rather, it’s a tool that used to enlighten..’

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/2012Scenario/message/5328?unwrap=1&var=1&l=1

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Hmmm.. that all sounds slightly less full-on anyway!!

    In Light!

    Smile

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  57. #57 Robin.
    August 8, 2011 am31 3:26 pm

    LA #55.

    Don’t worry Kiddo.. we don’t take sh*t from nobody!

    Congrats on yr. 1st day!

    In Light!

    Smile

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  58. #58 Lux Aeterna
    August 8, 2011 am31 3:34 pm

    Thanks Robin! I hope its like that!
    And about the sky and clouds- there is something different about them. I enjoy looking at them now.
    Especially this morning, The only clouds in the sky were some very high storm clouds in the distance. You could see the lightning too. It was very beautiful and the sunrise made parts of the cloud turn pink one at a time. I could have enjoyed it if mosquitoes werent a problem.

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  59. #59 Admiral2012here
    August 8, 2011 am31 5:34 pm

    …LUX 52 >>> I’ve always wondered if this was a way for the illuminati to brainwash us. What if this is a clever trap?

    …NO!…it’s not a TRAP!…We have been dwelling on a planet of Evil for EON’s…it’s TIME to get out while we can…there is a WINDOW of OPPORTUNITY…besides, we won’t be forced to do anything we are not sure of that the GFL offers us…it’s OUR FREE WILL Choice. What’s com’n from UP THERE…IS A HELL OF ALOT BETTER THAN WHAT’s GO’n ON DOWN HERE…yeah! “Down Here” HELL…lol…rest my case

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  60. #60 Admiral2012here
    August 8, 2011 am31 5:40 pm

    LIKE MICHAEL & JANET EXPRESSES

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P4A1K4lXDo

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  61. #61 starbeing
    August 8, 2011 am31 6:34 pm

    Robin #54 – Loved the show “the Prisoner”, and had not thought of it for many, many years. Interesting how the tv media conveyed this information so long ago.

    It doesn’t make sense to me that we would need implants in order to expand. Our telepathic abilities have been increasing considerably and we know much more than our conscious minds “think”. We know things through our feelings, without having to put it into words. Maybe if we practiced this more (using our feelings to assess situations and guide us), we would find less of a need to use words. Who knows? Big Smile

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  62. #62 Admiral2012here
    August 8, 2011 am31 6:42 pm

    …i wouldn’t worry about “IMPLANTS”…it’s YOUR FREE WILL CHOICE…remember…you are the CREATOR of you’re destiny

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LanCLS_hIo4

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  63. #63 Admiral2012here
    August 8, 2011 am31 6:48 pm

    …so, if you dwell on “negativity”…you get negativity. If you dwell on “positive”…you get positive Smile

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  64. #64 Admiral2012here
    August 8, 2011 am31 7:01 pm

    ARE YOU READY TO JUMP THRU THAT WINDOW?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEREhJLo7SE

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  65. #65 Admiral2012here
    August 8, 2011 am31 7:33 pm

    …Good Night Everyone…3D Work 2Morrow

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  66. #66 Stick
    August 8, 2011 am31 10:54 pm

    Carpe Noctem GM Massive Lion

    http://youtu.be/dDfShQBN5oU
    ApotheosisRising555—————————- Cloudy Heart Cloudy

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  67. #67 Steffie
    August 9, 2011 am31 2:12 am

    oh PUHLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ!!!!! Gunner, just checked the “crop
    circle” – thanks for the link! HOW CAN THERE BE ANY DOUBT but that this is a joker-job??? it looks like a badly made set of macrame coasters!!!!! I honestly don’t even think this is worthy of any form of discussion, we are then just doing exactly what the jokers want us to do! No debate Cool

    Robin #45 “stoned”?? no, I think seriously deluded would about cover it!! Laugh

    Lux #55 – congrats on starting high school! yeah, focus on having FUN, and don’t let the brainwashing and programming get to you… you will be just fine!! xx Heart

    Today is my last day of “sick leave” – back to work tomorrow, and I am seriously scared… still not feeling hundreds, and the brain is still sooo fuzzy. But I also know that staying home isn’t going to fix anything, I need to get OUT THERE and start living again. And I do enjoy my job and being around the students and everyone else – I think it’s just the normal “weak patch” one’s body and mind tends to go through after a serious setback… please hold the Light for me tomorrow (Wed) Sun Sun Sun Today is also a public holiday in SA… Women’s Day!! Female Laugh

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  68. #68 Space Muffin
    August 9, 2011 am31 3:55 am

    THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR POSTS!

    But…why is everybody dwelling on the implant thing? Is that all it takes to invoke widespread mistrust and paranoia?

    I’m a little concerned about the lack of faith, no offence meant to any. If we are always a hair away from this kind of mistrust, then panic will certainly spread to even us lightworkers, when ‘they’ do come.

    ‘They’ have reversed earth’s extinction, and our own.

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  69. #69 Gunner
    August 9, 2011 am31 4:11 am

    Good mourning everyone.
    Robin ,Yes I got my BB implant hooked up to full power LOL
    I really dont worry about to take an implant or not. I have faith in the future and a speial weapon. It is called love. Also, I have my guides, angels and a whole host of beings guiding me through the process so I am 100 percent positive of the future and am not worried at all. I used to worry about how it will be during the transition period ( riots, chaos, looting) but now I even got over those fears.
    Bateleur, Hey the head V chick is hot, huh? The only thing is, after you make love, she then eats you just like Admiral’s widow.
    Lux, thank you thank you so much for noticing the sky and the clouds. I have been noticing the changes in them for almost 2 years now and so have a lot of other people. That is our new world in her birthing stages and it only gets better from here.
    First day of high school, Nice but I got a feeling you will be attending a totally different type of school in the future. They will fill you with downloaded implants so you dont even have to go to school .LOL Only kidding and try not to worry about this event, it is all good in the hood.
    Steffie, of course there is no doubt about that crop circle , I only put it up here for the laughter . I think it really is funny and I think the ET’s will also find it funny.

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  70. #70 Gunner
    August 9, 2011 am31 4:15 am

    Thank you Space Muffin , I agree with you. These type of things on this site always makes me wonder as people here are awaken and should know better than to fall into the fear zone. Another thing is, we are constantly reminded by the messages from Angels, AA’s ET’s masters and more of the fact that there will be those who wish to instill fear into everyone for the shift.
    Anyway, great comment and at the right time.

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  71. #71 Admiral2012here
    August 9, 2011 am31 5:02 am

    RECLUSIVE AMAZON TRIBE MISSING AFTER ATTACK

    An uncontacted Amazon tribe that made headlines earlier this year after being filmed from the air is feared missing after presumed drug traffickers overran the Brazilian guards posted to protect the tribe’s lands.

    According to tribal advocacy group Survival International, Brazilian officials can find no trace of the Indians in the area after heavily armed men ransacked the guard post in western Brazil about 32 miles from the Peruvian border. Like other uncontacted tribes, the Indians live a traditional life in the forest and does not have contact with the outside world

    READ MORE

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44066285/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/reclusive-amazon-tribe-missing-after-attack?gt1=43001

    UNCONTACTED AMAZON TRIBE: FIRST EVER AERIAL FOOTAGE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLErPqqCC54

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  72. #72 Admiral2012here
    August 9, 2011 am31 5:06 am

    PRIMITIVE TRIBE MEETS WHITE MAN FOR THE FIRST TIME

    New Guinea Tribe Sees and Meets White Man for First Time…First Contact Video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZWrkfgTmoQ&feature=related

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  73. #73 bateleur
    August 9, 2011 am31 5:18 am

    Report on “Are Aliens living among us” on german TV.
    Yes it was somewhat disappointing. They had Erich von Daniken on the show, as he had written books about historical alien presence on earth. He had three reasons to support his claim.
    1. Archeologists found small golden fist size models of modern aircraft in one of their sites in South America. EvD says they copied space craft that they had seen. They however looked like your modern day F15 or so.
    2. On a Mayan king’s grave, there was a depiction of a person sitting in a tight small one man craft – according to EvD.
    3. The Nazca lines in Peru were according to EvD drawn by the local people to gain the attention of circling motherships at the time.
    Then they brought on debunkers to shred EvD’s evidence.
    They said the following:
    1. The little golden figures could have been a combination of flying insects/birds/dragon fly. They did look a bit like that to me too. Personally I feel it must have been something else.
    2. That engraving of the Mayan King was “debunked” as a depiction of the King moving to the underworld. I am not sure about this one either – I think the “debunker” might be right there.
    3. The Nazca lines – the debunker said that these lines were drawn to line up with certain stars at the time – to help the local people to plan their seasons better for droughts.
    Here I do think that these patterns have to do with ET activity.
    Unfortunately nothing was said about the current situation or that currently ET’s are walking among us and why.

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  74. #74 Robin.
    August 9, 2011 am31 5:50 am

    Space Muffin #68 * Gunner.

    I don’t think ‘everyone IS dwelling’ on this implant question! Perhaps try to see it as an open ‘discussion’? I like that we are all here.. and that every couple of days there’s a new message for us to ‘digest’.. but I also like and enjoy some discussion OF that message, so please don’t see this as fear-filled ‘dwelling’ but more of a chance to look at the content of the message.. for two reasons:

    Perhaps the messages have been repetitive and also inaccurate at times in their projections.. boring even!

    It is also known that the GFL monitor all our thoughts and feelings.. this is how they assess our preparedness for Ascension.. I believe our discussions here are in effect offering useful and GOOD FEEDBACK for them too therefore! One of my motivations in raising this point is NOT because I am fearful in the slightest, but because I personally would like SaLuSa and his crew to realise that if they are to present us with snippets such as this, that it is also probably a very good idea to ‘qualify’ them slightly more fully!

    ‘They’ wish us to ‘spread the word’, stay calm and inform others of these messages.. OK fine.. but how am I to explain to someone that they are free to choose to have an ‘implant’ to download bookfulls of knowledge and info, if I myself don’t know what that ‘implant’ is, or even how that works? Would the people I may tell, be as questioning as I? Might they infact be fearful, or at least doubtful because they do not understand what it is?

    That’s my point.. that’s why I do this occaisionally.. a mild protagonist, a feedback loop source for the potential and widest effects of the GFL messages upon us.. and anyway, it also makes a pleasant and stimulating change from talking about ‘Big Brother’!

    Enjoy it! Smile

    In Light!

    Smile

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  75. #75 Robin.
    August 9, 2011 am31 5:53 am

    #72.

    PRIMITIVE TRIBE MEETS WHITE MAN FOR THE FIRST TIME.

    Seen it already.. twice. Amazing!

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  76. #76 Admiral2012here
    August 9, 2011 am31 5:59 am

    …Robin, you may have seen it twice, but maybe someone new here hasn’t seen it

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  77. #77 Robin.
    August 9, 2011 am31 6:11 am

    Bateleur #74.

    Poor old Erich! He’s been ridiculed and hammered for years.. I remember reading ‘Chariots of the Gods’ in the 70′s and it acted as one of my inspirations to look a lot further into the possibility of ‘Alien’ Life existing in our Universe.. and of our interactions with them.

    It sounds like he was kind of ‘set up’ to be debunked.. but hopefully in ‘fair’ journalistic style the viewer was given the opportunity to form their own choice of the potential possibilities?

    Perhaps also Von Danken’s ‘evidence’ is getting a little ‘old hat’ nowadays? With so much activity in Disclosure groups around the Globe and in the sky itself, there is probably now more ‘modern’ and less easily debunkable evidence to back up such.

    The Nazca Lines are amazing aren’t they! What has always struck me as the best ‘evidence’ there, is that some of the depictions of animals, birds and insects etc there, are so incredibly large that WE only ‘spotted’ them from the air.. quite recently! It would seem logical therefore, that they were intially designed to BE seen from the air.. or even from Space.

    In light!

    Smile

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  78. #78 Robin.
    August 9, 2011 am31 6:24 am

    Addy #76.

    Thats why I politely suggested that you also consider adding ‘Re-post’ or ‘Repeat’ when you are aware (on unspecified links at least!), that this is the case!

    Thanks mate!

    In Light!

    Smile

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  79. #79 Gunner
    August 9, 2011 am31 6:26 am

    I love this Angel message and i could physically feel their loving presence as I read this. As a matter of fact, I was feeling so tired today. I told the Angels that I believe in heaven on earth but it is just my physical state that prevents me from really enjoying it. I told them I have little energy these days ( i am 50) loss of desire to do fun things, just plain old blahs with no energy and no excitement and I asked them for healing. Well, I instantly felt their energy radiate through my whole body and immediately felt so much better with a lot of energy. I feel like flying right now, anyone want to go booby boarding, surfs up dude. Enjoy this message and talk to the Angels as they love to listen to your life’s experiences. http://www.visionsofheaven.com

    Message from the Angels

    My dear friends, we love you so very much.

    Heaven exists, right here, right now upon your earth dear ones. It is not a faraway place. It is not a state of nirvana and meditation although some of you will find it that way. It is not a space reserved only for those who have ‘earned’ God’s love or are ‘worthy’ of it, for indeed none of you have to earn God’s love. It is given freely by its very nature. You are made of the very same. Worthiness is not an issue at all in the mind of God. Are the streams worthy of running into the rivers that run into the oceans, or isn’t that part of their very design?

    Living ‘in’ heaven is a choice. It is a choice to celebrate the miracles of life around you. You can see! You can hear! You can touch one another and feel with your very delicate and beautiful skin. You can witness the flight of the birds, hear the rustle in the trees, smell the freshly cut grass, and taste of the earth’s bounty. Everywhere you look, everything you feel, everything you hear or see, or taste is a part of God’s love for you. Heaven is found by looking at the many ways in which you are loved, at the myriad of ways in which your life does work. Even if you are not happy at all with your present conditions, you can find things to celebrate! You can dream your dreams.

    We honor your human desires and yet, why oh why we wonder would you put off your bliss because your current life does not reflect some mythical criteria of success? If you had nothing, and believed in God’s love for you, you would exist in heaven and find a great abundance of love surrounding you. The birds do not have a bank account. The field mice do not worry about their rent! And yet they are fed, housed, sheltered, and cared for. And when their lives end dear ones, they do not bemoan the fact that they did not achieve all they thought they should for instead they have lived one day, one moment at a time, grateful for the abundance around them.

    We know that as human beings you want what you want, and there is nothing wrong with this. But do not put off your joy! Do not put off enjoying the miraculous nature of life around you for any reason whatsoever. Heaven can be yours right now if you choose to see the love of God surrounding you in this very moment. As you do so, you feel abundant inside, and you will attract all you need and want externally as a result. Heaven on earth is certainly not a feeling of lack, but rather an experience of contentment “now” even with a desire for growth and expansion.

    Take a moment. Look around. See God’s love everywhere – in the sights, sounds, smells, tastes, textures around you; in the eyes of a loved one, or better yet, in your very own eyes as you look in the mirror. God is everywhere. Love is everywhere. Don’t deprive yourself of what is already yours, already here, already available in every given moment.

    God bless you! We love you so very much.
    – The Angels

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  80. #80 dreamwalker
    August 9, 2011 am31 6:59 am

    #68 #74 Space Muffin and Robin great posts guys, I totally agree with you both.

    We really do have to keep one eye on ourselves that we don’t get dragged into fear. However fear itself should not be feared if we understand it’s just an antiquated self-defense mechanism that can easily be overcome. We have the ability to control ourselves (i.e. “self-control”) and not let our emotions control US!

    If you fear the message, all you have to do is be aware that you fear it and try and overcome it. If you don’t, no big deal, you’re now aware of it and can try and defeat it next time! This is the battle of dark and light currently going on within every single one of us. Other emotions to be aware of are greed, hate, anger, lust, and envy. And there any many others: Dark Emotions. These are being presented to you so you can see them for what they are, and overcome them as lightworkers. I believe this is one of the primary things that lightworkers are being asked to do at this time. The underlying advice on dealing with it? “Let it go!”

    I also agree that these topics need exploring. The Devil is in the details, eh, wot?

    We are their allies, but if we’re expected to act as allies then it is critical that we understand our role so that we can fulfill it to the best of our abilities. This is because in a way we represent them here on earth. We are their ambassadors. So I need to know that if I go around saying “oh yeah, we’ll all be riding around in hoverchairs in two day’s time! Get ready!” I should have some degree of certainty that I am not misrepresenting their position. Otherwise, frankly, I’m going to look like an ASS!

    The other part of the equation is listening to your higher self and your guides. So you’re not just giving your free will over to the Galactics. You’re following your own intuition, and doing what you feel is RIGHT. And, presumably, not driving off a cliff like a pack of lemmings…

    LOL

    Silly Silly Silly Silly

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  81. #81 dreamwalker
    August 9, 2011 am31 7:03 am

    So far the idea that the implants are actually crystals rocks my world the most. What an awesome idea. Just by wearing a crystal you can have a conversation with Lady Gaia. TOO COOL!

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  82. #82 Robin.
    August 9, 2011 am31 7:20 am

    DW #81.

    Yes.. I liked that too.. which is why I posted it! We know that the lattice structure of the crystal is capable of holding vast amounts of information.. the Crystal Skulls.. even the use of crystal as a computer Hard Drive information storage system both tie into this.

    Crystals are also programmable therefore.

    Perhaps as we ourselves move from being Carbon based beings to Crystaline based beings, our inbuilt ability to store information as Light increases exponentially?

    This is another factor which raised my questioning of this ‘implant’ offer.. it seems fairly likely that we will not need it, IF we can succeed in making a smooth and rapid transition to becoming Crystaline Beings of Light anyway!

    WE are the Crystals!!!

    In Light!

    Star

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  83. #83 Robin.
    August 9, 2011 am31 7:32 am

    I have just been gifted with the most amazing and beautiful Lapis Lazuli and Quartz Crystal Wand, as an addition to the ‘toolkit’.

    It is CHUNKY, with a beautiful deep Blue and Gold in the Lapis shaft, each end of which is surrounded by set Lapis Stones and surmounded with a real ‘workhorse’ of a tapered Clear Quartz Crystal and with a spherical Quartz rounding off the ‘base’.

    Yum!

    The Boys and Gals upstairs are welcome to download into THAT!! Wink

    In Light!

    Star

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  84. #84 Gunner
    August 9, 2011 am31 7:41 am

    Robin, we could talk about Jersey shore LOL. I know not all on here are coming from a fear based notion but some are. Personally, I know everything is going to be alright.
    Also, I liked the conversation about implants also.

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  85. #85 Gunner
    August 9, 2011 am31 7:43 am

    I just love how Erich pronounces the word Extraterrestrials. I try to mimic him when I say that word.

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  86. #86 Gunner
    August 9, 2011 am31 7:46 am

    DW, I converse with Gaia all the time and I dont have or need any crystals to do this. I think it is fine if you do use crystals or rituals but for myself I dont find them necessary to connect with the spirit world.

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  87. #87 Robin.
    August 9, 2011 am31 7:48 am

    G. #84.

    OK, tell me of the Jersey Shore Gunner and I will tell you of the Shore of County Clare, Eire.. or the Western Shores of Australia!

    Smile

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  88. #88 Robin.
    August 9, 2011 am31 7:50 am

    #86.

    Maybe YOU ARE the Crystal ‘implant’ then?

    Smile

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  89. #89 bateleur
    August 9, 2011 am31 8:12 am

    #77 Robin – I had no idea that you guys (Gunner incl) are familiar with Erich. Erich was new to me. Anyway, the debunkers said that the animals were placed there for the native indian people to walk the maze (or labyrinth), and they showed how groups were walking the maze (looked like a local school as the youngsters were all wearing the same clothes. I am sure that this was not the original intent.
    The good thing however is that this discussion was taking place and people had the chance to make their own viewpoint, like you said.

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  90. #90 Gunner
    August 9, 2011 am31 8:22 am

    Bateleur, Erich is also a regular on the show Ancient aliens.

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  91. #91 Gunner
    August 9, 2011 am31 8:28 am

    Robin, the Jersey Shore is just another one of the mindless shows I enjoy. They take these wild Italian Guidos and Guidettes, set them up in a shore house and watch as all hell breaks loose from all their wild partying. It is actually the most popular show on MTV and now the cast members get $100,000 per episode. I dont blame them as their 15 minutes of fame may be gone at anytime so you gotta cash in while you can.
    The jersey shore also has family like settings so the whole shore is not taken over by the wild ones. Some people in Jersey were actually offended but i was like, this is really what the Jersey shore night life for young people is really like.
    BTW Me a crystal, I like that idea. Dont get me wrong, I also love crystals, i just dont need them to contact the other side.

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  92. #92 dreamwalker
    August 9, 2011 am31 8:28 am

    #77 Von Daniken made some leaps in his books that weren’t supported by his research… which I thought when I read them were totally valid to make, but he was definitely opening himself up to criticism from academia. ESPECIALLY in the 70′s. But that can be the way of the lightworker. Academia can be unaccustomed to listening to their inner voice!

    There is an interesting connection here Robin, because his book “Gold of the Gods” jump-started MY search for truth. The critical part for me was his description of the Tayos Caves (with photos), and I matched this up to the description of the tunnel network / subway system under area 51, via Billy Faye Woodard (also mentioned by several others). So if Tayos caves exist, which confirm Woodard’s description, that puts everything else for me into much clearer perspective (i.e. Agartha).

    #82 yes exactly! And in fact we all already KNOW how to program crystals, as well as the crystals within ourselves, so really, no surprises, just perspective! Wink

    Thunder Heart Sun

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  93. #93 Gunner
    August 9, 2011 am31 8:33 am

    I was in Australia once back in 1984 when I was in the Navy. We pulled into Perth. Back then, I only wanted to party and find girls so I didnot go to an Australian beach or the outback. I wish I would have. One thing about Perth I noticed is that the city was so clean. In the New York Jersey area our cities are filthy and people litter like there is no tomorrow. Also the people in Perth were so friendly and nice and I got to perform 2 songs at one of the clubs. I felt like a star. I played Satisfaction and Bye Bye Miss American Pie. I got the whole crowd up to sing the last version of that song and there was much rejoicing. They were also heavily into Jethro Tull (my favorite band ) and I was shocked one night when I went to a club and the band performed many tull songs. Ah, the good old days.

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  94. #94 Gunner
    August 9, 2011 am31 8:36 am

    I think crystals will play a major role in us having free energy as they used crystal light technology in Atlantis and Lemuria for their energy needs. Man, I cant wait to go to the libary of porthogolios In Agaria with Mikos to see Atlantis and Lemuria, how they really lived from day to day and to also see WTF went wrong.

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  95. #95 dreamwalker
    August 9, 2011 am31 9:27 am

    Gunner I wish you could see youtube. This might answer some of your questions about Atlantis, if you were able to see it. This is one guy’s perspective; maybe there’s a transcript of this material out there somewhere. He mentions at the beginning of the videos that it’s pieced together from several written accounts, for example Sumeria, Thoth, etc.

    Spirit Science 12_1 The Rise of Atlantis
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq9gaC4R_d8&feature=player_embedded

    Spirit Science 12_2 Atlantean Catastrophe
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k6b95gxzYM&feature=player_embedded

    Spirit Science 12_3 The Solution
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvcMbRRUUM8&feature=player_embedded

    As always, discernment recommended! Smile

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  96. #96 Maffy
    August 9, 2011 am31 9:49 am

    Implants?!

    I don’t f***in think so!

    MY creator doesn’t require to need implants. Implants are thought forms, NOT LIGHT!!!!!

    sorry, but this “message” is way off

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  97. #97 Maffy
    August 9, 2011 am31 9:59 am

    I dunno if any of you have followed a guy called “orionifo” on YT and the “interview” he had. We’ll “she” talked about “augmetations” (implants) that allow them to have “powers” that will lead to power over others…the “negative” path.

    Well anyone who has understood or read the Law of One, understands that there is a “dark” pressence embedded within our consciousness and they will be offering others to “join” their “complex”

    If this info is to be “downloaded” in an instance, just imagine the amount of “dumbed down” people the world has created being offered this opportunity?

    Can anyone say “lead us not into temptation” ?

    I KNOW “acsension” ONLY occurs through death( the transformation of body and judgement of soul”

    Is isn’t going to happen, whilst I(we) are in a yellow ray body.

    Implants? YEAH RIGHT!

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  98. #98 Deneb
    August 9, 2011 am31 10:09 am

    People, the fact that some of us are not thrilled with the implants idea does not automatically mean we are fearful. We are just expressing our views here. And maybe it’s just me, but I didn’t hear anyone saying that he/she was scared.

    Also, I think that fear is a misunderstood emotion. It is often seen as a “bad emotion” but I don’t see it that way. Fear, when put under control, can be your best “alarm signal” emotion. It has its divine purpose too! If you are suddenly standing on the edge of a cliff you will probably be scared, and that’s a good thing! Smile The fear you are feeling is trying to tell you that you must be careful or else you might injure yourself. Being prisoner of the fear emotion is another thing, though.

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  99. #99 Gunner
    August 9, 2011 am31 10:18 am

    Maffy 97, Too late, Our world is filled with mostly dumbed down people.

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  100. #100 Gunner
    August 9, 2011 am31 10:21 am

    Deneb, that reminded me of dying in a past life. I fell off of one of those cliffs with those huge round boulders. As I was falling, I tried to grip the boulder but you know how futile that could be.
    I often dream of falling off cliffs or any place that is high up. The thing is , I could be 20 feet from the edge and something always seems to drag me to the edge and right over it.

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  101. #101 Gunner
    August 9, 2011 am31 10:23 am

    The Grays used implants on the people they abducted.

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  102. #102 Gunner
    August 9, 2011 am31 10:24 am

    Deneb, Lux said he was afraid. But give the guy a break as he is only 14 so you actually gotta give him a lot of credit for awakening at such a young age.

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  103. #103 Gunner
    August 9, 2011 am31 10:25 am

    OK, My Manager is out for the afternoon and you know my motto, when the cat is out the mice will play. Going outside now, YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  104. #104 Deneb
    August 9, 2011 am31 10:32 am

    #100 quite interesting, this recurring dream of yours! I don’t know anything about the significance of dreams but I’m sure there is “something in there”. Are you “lucid” in your dream? By that I mean: Do you know that you are dreaming when you are having this dream? If you are lucid than maybe you could try asking to the dream what it is trying to tell you. Sounds too simple, but it might work!

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  105. #105 Robin.
    August 9, 2011 am31 10:35 am

    Post from ‘Kalion’ over at Beckow’s 2012S:

    ~~~~~~

    I don’t believe we need implants to connect to god and higher realms. The point is to transcend technology and instead focus on and develop our spirituality. We already have all the tools (our body, especially our pinneal gland) to talk mentally to other people, souls and reach other dimensions – we only need to develop spiritually, embrace love, get rid of the garbage and connect with the divine spark that is within us.
    Also, “shared consciousness” means according to me the ability to communicate telepathically with anyone, any number of people no matter where they are located. However, that also means that we’ll be able to keep our thoughts to ourselves – if not, it’s an extreme breach of the individual’s freedom.
    Memories are also an integral part of our experiences and existence which form our wisdom and allow us to grow and develop. What are we without our memories, experiences? Now, most of us don’t remember their previous lives, but that is only temporary.
    After ascension i count on having all my memories, to be able to retain the privacy of my thoughts and keep my body free of any devices.
    I was never challenged by anything of the light because it promises only what is of unconditional love, light and full freedom.
    Salusa’s last message, if indeed it comes from him, was i found inaccurate, because it introduced the concept of implant and shared consciousness without explaining what he meant by them. Also, the language was a bit ambiguous in places which created a dishonest feel.
    but that’s just me
    i’m still a believer Smile
    Cheers
    K.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Parallel ‘discussion’ it seems!

    In Light!

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  106. #106 Admiral2012here
    August 9, 2011 am31 10:40 am

    INTERNATIONAL HEARING ON 9/11 TO BEGIN IN TORONTO IN SEPTEMBER

    TORONTO, Aug. 8, 2011 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — A decade after the events of September 11, 2001, which resulted in the immediate deaths of nearly 3,000 people on American soil, countless victims from toxic dust, and hundreds of thousands of deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq, international hearings on this pivotal event will begin in Toronto in September.

    The events of September 11 provided a pretext for a War on Terror that has led to military invasions and occupations, and attacks upon civil and human rights throughout the world. The credibility of the official investigation into the events of September 11, 2001, carried out by the U.S. Government between 2003 and 2005, has been questioned by millions of citizens in the United States and abroad, including victim family members, expert witnesses and international legal experts.

    To date, open and transparent judicial hearings to question the official evidence provided by the U.S. Government have never taken place in the United States or abroad. Similarly, no perpetrators of the events of September 11 have ever been brought to justice on American soil

    READ MORE

    http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/international-hearings-on-911-to-begin-in-toronto-in-september-127227548.html

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  107. #107 Robin.
    August 9, 2011 am31 10:44 am

    Oh, Jeez Gunner! #91 / #93.

    I REALLY thought.. just for one sweet moment, that you were actually due to describe to me the nature of the Shore of the Jersey Coast.. the waves, the animals and fish.. the winds.. the sands and rocks and the smell of salt!

    But no.. it’s only ANOTHER bloody US TV program! Smile
    Do you recall we had this dicussion once already? Where I was asking you to realise that this site is in fact a Global one.. and to forgive others if they had NO idea what you are talking about when referring to Local TV output?

    OK.. well I clearly wont need to contimue to try to interest you in the Irish or Australian Coastlines then!

    Hilarious!

    Phew! Worlds apart in the same World!

    Good Fun!

    ~~~~~

    Yes, I recall your Perth Naval visit story from an earlier rendition here on site.

    It is a very clean and beautiful city.. as cities go anyway!

    In Light!

    Smile

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  108. #108 Gunner
    August 9, 2011 am31 10:48 am

    Wow, did anyone hear about this. I think it is a hoax as our media would have covered this story even our controlled media
    http://weeklyworldnews.com/headlines/21481/earths-second-moon-appears/

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  109. #109 Gunner
    August 9, 2011 am31 10:49 am

    OOPS I am sorry, I see it is in the weekly world news and isnt that the same paper as the tabloids showing Clinton hanging out with an et.

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  110. #110 Deneb
    August 9, 2011 am31 10:52 am

    #102 Oh well, you’re right he did use the word “paranoid”. But other than that the doubts he is having are genuine. And like I said I think that fear (when controlled) is a beneficial emotion. The fear is only telling him that something isn’t right. If he doesn’t allow fear to take control and instead simply try to understand what it is trying to say, it’s all good.

    Hey lux btw, sorry for talking about you “in third person” like you were not even here Smile

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  111. #111 Gunner
    August 9, 2011 am31 10:56 am

    No, these dreams are not Lucid. I used to dream of tornadoes a lot. Then once I dreamed of how I died in a Tornadoe. (man , why am i always dreaming of past deaths, LOL) I seen this huge f5 coming right at my house but it was too late to take shelter. So I ran into the bathroom and grabbed a hold of the toilet, then the twister hit and everything went black. Since that dream of many years ago, I have not really had any more dreams of tornadoes. Also, at the time of that dream I had no idea that if you are caught in your house , the best thing to do is to take hold of the toilet, I only found that out a year after that dream, so I guess in my past life I must have lived in tornadoe alley in the US and knew what to do. It didnot work as I was killed anyway.

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  112. #112 Gunner
    August 9, 2011 am31 10:58 am

    Admiral, OMG How is the weather out there in Texas. You could probably fry your eggs and spam on the concrete.
    How is the Black Widow? And ABC?

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  113. #113 Robin.
    August 9, 2011 am31 11:00 am

    #110.

    LA may simply have been responding to a post where I deliberately used the ‘paranoid’ word.. in provocative invitation that IF we wanted to be really paranoid (which we, obviously, really do not!) then we could also assume this ‘implant’ to be subtle a means to brainwash us all!! He was wonderfully concerned that we remain ‘OK’ and not become subject to this!

    In Light!

    Smile

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  114. #114 Steffie
    August 9, 2011 am31 11:03 am

    Don’t know who Veronica is, but this is interesting. Nothing we don’t already know, but the reminders are always good:

    Message from Veronica received by April Crawford ~ August 9, 2011

    “When one decides to embark upon a physical incarnation it is from a place of peace and clarity. The denseness of the linear that unfolds often tends to confuse and depress souls that are seeking evolution.

    The younger souls complain, “This is just too hard” , while the older souls lament “Why did I come here?”

    There is a great deal of pressure put upon those who strive to live a life void of difficulty. It seems from every corner another debacle rears it head even before the previous one has resolved itself. Most are weary of the fight. Most begin to feel victim of an unfriendly universe. The real tragedy is that most begin to doubt their own creative abilities due to what is around them. The focus upon creating opportunity to evolve is compromised by the loss of confidence.

    When faced with all the diversity one must remain steadfast. Remind yourself of what you are capable of by remaining focused on the goal.

    Stirring up your energy is often a good remedy. By doing so one can often become reacquainted with a key ingredient within that was lost in the shuffle before.

    Do not let opinions of others deter you from success. You all live in a culture that is full of opinions. It does not mean they are factual or strong enough to affect your path.

    Remain focused.

    Dismiss the trivia.

    Be confident. Make it your business to know yourself. Acknowledge your abilities.

    No opinion can change who you are at a core level.

    You are capable.”

    -VERONICA

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  115. #115 Maffy
    August 9, 2011 am31 11:06 am

    I’m not afraid. I am just a little alarmed.

    Let’s just say that a theory i have had for a while now, seems to be revealing itself..Im trying to figure out of im either

    A. Psyhcic

    or B. Actually creating it, as a result of a theory i have had.

    I always wandered what the dumbing down of society had to do with anything..

    I can see it now, all the kids out there who wanna be like “Neo”

    Its sick! But i guess the free will card has to play out even with these guys from (Sirius?)

    THE LAMB?!

    http://www.google.com/sky/#latitude=-16.716112&longitude=-78.712918&zoom=10&Spitzer=0.00&ChandraXO=0.00&Galex=0.00&IRAS=0.00&WMAP=0.00&Cassini=0.00&slide=1&mI=-1&oI=-1

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  116. #116 Admiral2012here
    August 9, 2011 am31 11:11 am

    …Oh Man Gunner, it is crazy hot here. Yesterday, my neighbor had a water leak and apparently her water seeped into my kitchen. I got home and had to take the soaked rug (one of those long runner rugs) outside and mop up the water in the kitchen. It was so hot outside that rug dried in just a few hours.

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  117. #117 Robin.
    August 9, 2011 am31 11:13 am

    Gunner #108.

    Yep.. I can only see One Moon from here!

    Sometimes unique weather and atmospheric conditions can combine to give reflections in the sky. Whole cites can ‘appear’ to exist for a few minutes.. then disappear again!

    Or maybe it’s just ’5D’ coming on strong nowadays!

    Smile

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  118. #118 Maffy
    August 9, 2011 am31 11:20 am

    BTW A link for that guys YouTube page and blog with “interview” about augmentations

    http://www.youtube.com/user/orionifo

    Quote:

    Orionifo says,Semjasey also said that the brain acids of a Plejaren could be implanted in the brain of an earth human and that earth human could then
    reach their level.
    Abena says, augmentations can be used.
    Orionifo says, what’s thats?
    Abena says, augmentations are eletronic, biological implants which can give the user unique abilitys.
    i currently have 7 augmentations.

    ENDQUOTE

    http://orionresearch.blogspot.com/

    I admit, this guy is a little “creepy” (sorry i hate to say it, I know i shouldn’t be)

    But he’s watching/filming these craft that MORPH and change shape..Just like Ra Mentioned they would, along with the fact they are from the Orion Empire/Confederation

    Am i the only one seeing this connection? Smile

    This is why im alarmed..Being “healed” with “light and sound” should have nothing to do with downloading to the brain!!

    OMG…the thought of it

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  119. #119 dreamwalker
    August 9, 2011 am31 11:21 am

    #115 Can you elaborate a little on your theory Maffy? Are you saying that everyone wants to be like Neo and this is a smokescreen for something larger?

    If both A and B are true, then what?

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  120. #120 Maffy
    August 9, 2011 am31 11:44 am

    #119

    In all honesty.. No, I’d rather not. I don’t want other creative minds pondering it.

    The less the better.

    If they wish to figure it out from the small amount of info i have given in my posts here, then feel free to do so. But i am not one to put these kinds of ideas out there for others to create with, if that makes sense.

    Sorry

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  121. #121 Maffy
    August 9, 2011 am31 11:48 am

    “I know Kung Fu?” Wink

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  122. #122 Gunner
    August 9, 2011 am31 11:50 am

    Oh yeah, I remember Lux was concerned for everyone on this site, pretty cool.
    Like I said robin, I just dont trust the source of that paper and the only reason I inquired about it is because it was sent to me by James Gilliand.
    Admiral, Jersey has also had one hot and humid summer so far. My clothes dry so quickly in this weather but my dogs dont even want to stay out that much. They head to the parlor where they lay right at the air conditionings air flow.
    BTW, speking of AC’s, make sure to wash out the filters on your ac. I didnot and over the weekend there was like a half an inch of dust on the filter. UGH, but when I cleaned it, it worked so much bette. I would clean it once a month.
    Break time and there is a huge thunderstorm about to hit. Gotta borrow someones umbrella as I want to go and buy my lottery tickets. Rags to riches without even trying is my goal in life.

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  123. #123 dreamwalker
    August 9, 2011 am31 12:24 pm

    #120 Well Maffy, Meh, been there done that. Smile

    Yeah initially (back about 10 years ago) it scared the bejeezus out of me. With great power comes great responsibility. But then what’s a little unexpected rain to keep the weather people on their toes, eh? Rain Rain Rain Rain Rain

    All I can say is you can walk the path of dark or you can walk the path of light. It all really boils down to your own perspective. For example playing violent video games seems like a fairly harmless pursuit until it starts interfering with your perception and gifts…

    Personally I did turn my back on my own development for quite some time, specifically because of my own fear, and that really didn’t get me anywhere. You are blessed in that you have access to a caring community that can help you come to grips with some of that.

    If you need to just ignore everything you’re hearing from the galactics and focus 100% on your own experience (i.e. what your intuition tells you to follow) that is a completely valid direction to take. Your higher self will not steer you wrong. You may get egg on your face from time to time but that too can be a valuable lesson. Smile

    Welalin

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  124. #124 Gunner
    August 9, 2011 am31 12:26 pm

    Man, this message really blew me away since we have been talking about crystals over here and now I just received this through Dianne Robbins

    Greetings from the World of Crystals. We are the Crystal People, and we are gathered around you as you sit at your computer taking our dictations. We love you. Do you know that you are also composed of crystalline light substance? Yes, you are. Only your bodies have densified the Light that you are, into physical substance, physical matter, to encase your embodiment in this 3rd dimensional realm for you couldn’t maneuver and operate in this realm if you were pure light substance. You needed a densified body to fully experience all the delights on Earth. Earth is composed of matter, the same matter as your body composition. So you are one.

    However, we in the Crystal World have held our form of Pure Crystalline Light Substance, and it is this Light that we shower upon you, as you go about your business on the surface – hurrying and scurrying through ‘time’. We don’t hurry and scurry – we just stand still, and yet are able to be wherever we want to be and when we want to be there. It is quite a delightful existence.

    So, back to the crystalline light bodies that you are. Before you alighted on this planet, you were all Light. Your bodies had to take on a denser composition in order to maneuver here, and to partake of all the wonders that were created for you to experience. You came to jump into densified matter and to experience it all. However, there was one shortcoming in all of this – you lost your way. But that is over now, and you are slowly regaining your identity, and your density is now recapturing your Light. Your cells are transmuting into crystalline light particles now, and we in the crystal world are assisting. This is why it is crucial for you to connect with us on our wavelength, which is in a higher octave. We can help lift you up to meet our electron spin. Our electron spin is spinning on currents of Light and these waves will connect with you and transmute your physical matter into crystalline light particles.

    It is pure alchemy and we are here to assist you in your changeover to an immortal body of Crystalline Light. Oh my, what a ride you are in for. You are beginning to ride the waves of crystalline light, carrying you closer and closer to your divine self. In the Crystal World, we all know we are divine. We commune with the divinity in each of you, as you hold us in your hands or sleep with us on your bodies. We commune with you from great distances and depths, when you think of us – for your thoughts reach through the ethers to us, and we send you back our love and light waves. All life on Earth connects like this. It is ‘thought’ connection – the fastest kind of communication in existence. All life in our Galaxy is linked through ‘thought’ waves. And you have it built right into you. Cell phones and email will soon be replaced by your own telecommunications network.

    You will be able to contact anyone, in any location in time and space, on or off your home planetary system. You will be taking the human form to greater heights, never reached in times before. You are in the process of creating the ‘immortal human’ encased in light substance, living on a physical planet and being able to move in and out of density. What a trip you are in for! The beauty of all of this, is that all other life forms ride along with you to experience new delights of existence.

    We leave you for now, and request your connection to our hearts. Yes, we too have hearts, and when you think of us, our hearts light up into flames. So fan our hearts with your thoughts and we will send our heart flames to you. Catch the light. We are the Crystal People, and we bid you good day.”

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  125. #125 Robin.
    August 9, 2011 am31 12:32 pm

    Star

    Maffy -

    I know what you are speaking of.
    We do not create it.. but by being aware of it
    we also protect.
    We are protected! Smile

    Star

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  126. #126 Robin.
    August 9, 2011 am31 12:42 pm

    Kudos To The Human Race

    9 August 2011 – Kazar

    It is becoming quite apparent (transparent) that many channelings are starting off with telling us that we are feeling fearful or depressed or that we will be rescued by some unnamed powerful source or secret caretakers are planning our future here for us. I couldn’t disagree more – not on this forum. I am sensing a feeling of excitement, anticipation, and insight. An eagerness for the awesome changes that are taking place within us, our fellow humans and for our earth Mother. Every time I feel I have a new insight or feel another heart shockwave I feel like I am on a surfboard riding this great wave of liquid light. And then all of a sudden I notice a fellow lightworker by my side and they are zipping along not only with their feet planted solidly on their surfboard but they are hanging ten and laughing with outrageous delight. This is not to say we are not clearing, discerning, and growing into our fullness, but we are able to see the outcome while still engaged with the process of getting there.

    Quite some time back some original works on the Pleidians came out that at the time were fresh and innovative. However, even at that time they referred to themselves as our “Gods”. This was one of the things that got me to thinking the term “god” was being way overused all over this planet. I actually enjoy the term but switched to Creator or Creative source to acknowledge where the infinite being that I am issued forth from. While some other races may have had a hand in planning with Gaia the human experience on this planet, they may have also played a role in snipping our DNA down to two strands. To what end? It is the Creator that manifested the dream of the “human in his image” that contains all the source codes for the entire universe within us. The catch is that you have to incarnate as a human to really own this. In order to do that in this game here we had to choose to descend into a density that didn’t acknowledge the truth of our being. During this process we have been laughed at, ridiculed, tortured, vilified and programmed. Now there are groups of beings that didn’t have the courage to undergo this process. Instead they chose to come in spacecraft and find ways to manipulate the human state in such a way as to harvest our energy while literally keeping us in the dark. It is said that Jehovah was actually a Pleidian warlord. Not that all that all Pleidians have this intent–the mayan calendar is a good example of that. Salusa is a Sirian. These races consider themselves to be our parents, yet like many parents have a difficult time letting go and letting God’s divine plan work out. It is the same with the Luciferian rebellion. As we were raised up (in potential) to the level of the Archangels and beyond these Fallen couldn’t quite handle that. Yet even they wouldn’t descend into 3rd density because they knew themselves they would get stuck here for a long time and would have to play the game as it was set up–to forget who you were and thru experience recover that essence. They instead chose with others to manipulate and control from fouth density. I have to tell you that one of my pet peeves(if i still have any–ha ha) is the channels that from a perspective of superiority constantly remind us of mans inhumanity to man. This is of course from the very races that snipped our DNA to two strands and cut off our direct conscious connection to Source and manipulated us to play out their games.

    The Antidote The Vaccine

    Thats us of course. The very universe has literally been stuck because the differing timelines created by “lessor gods” have been used to set themselves up as the Creator. As much as they would like we are not their puppets any longer. Regardless of whether we consider ourselves starbeings, devic, or whatever origin, since you had the courage and fortitude to incarnate as a human– that will always be a part of you and you will have eternal access to all the source codes in this universe when you graduate. We will have built in all the energetic and dynamic passions and adventurism that the human race is known for and will be renowned for. Of course this is all in perfect divine timing and co-ordinates with cosmic cycles. Not the least of which is our symbiotic relationship with the Goddess and sentient being of this planet our beloved Gaia. I truly know that this is the time that the meek shall inherit the earth. Thats us the Human Race-the Agarthans as well. It means we get clear title so to speak, an acknowledgement from offworld races to respect that. And as we take our places on the councils in the heavens we will be looking eye to eye. That does not mean we are finished with our learning, that will go on forever, but we will have risen, like the dawning sun on the horizon–one this time that will never set. We are becoming Love Incarnate. We are the Divine Plan made manifest.

    I Love You All

    KUDOS TO THE HUMAN RACE

    Kazar Michael

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    In Light!

    Smile

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  127. #127 dreamwalker
    August 9, 2011 am31 12:50 pm

    #124 What Robin said, Maffy – it is not enough to simply know about something. By knowing about something you are aware of it. It does not manifest simply because you KNOW it. You also have to INTEND.

    INTENT is done a number of different ways however, sometimes you’re aware of it, other times you’re not. For this reason it is important to “step back” from yourself. Become a spectator of your own actions. Did you say what you mean? How could you have said something or done something that would better convey your intent?

    This is an extremely difficult but necessary process, IMHO. It’s one thing to walk a mile in someone else’s shoes, but try walking a mile in your OWN shoes, as if you were a different person!

    Whoah Nellie I’m ranting today LOL

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  128. #128 Maffy
    August 9, 2011 am31 1:04 pm

    Well, i don’t intend on anyhthing of an “implant” nature, but recuring nightmaries about bio-mechanical bodies and artificial intelligence, being plugged into FAKE “light”?

    Why? Where do these dreams come from?

    Why do i keep coming across the words and statements of others that do nothing but re-inforce these ideas?

    Electrodes and mechanical cogs that control human jaw movement? elbows and Knees?

    Ice blue “dead” eyes?

    The dumbing down of our kids?

    A theory;

    All i ever see are “countries” STRIVING all many costs to “be better” than other countries

    ie. US vs China (right now)

    If you where cunning enough to dumb down the major population of the Earth, Billions of people to a point where if they wanna “keep up” they are gunna require an “IQ boost”

    Here, use our implants! (free will choice!)

    Once made and your transformed into an IMMORTAL BEING…guess what?

    Your THEIRS!!!

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  129. #129 Gunner
    August 9, 2011 am31 1:12 pm

    Almost time to go home, see you all tomorrow, same bat time same bat channel.

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  130. #130 Maffy
    August 9, 2011 am31 1:19 pm

    Let’s put it this way. I will let my higher Self decide my fate once i have learnt if my contract was fullfilled. I can only do this when I die.

    I do not fear my death, i fear for those who do…Becuase they are the ones who have forgotten the most, and the most impressionable, with my previous regard at a theory.

    I know of the Archytypes(what we call “human nature”) of this Universe. One of which i associate with entirely.

    “The Transformation of the Body”

    read The Law of One(book 4) for an understanding of what this is

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  131. #131 dreamwalker
    August 9, 2011 am31 1:22 pm

    #128 Maffy in my opinion we were “theirs” a long time ago.

    I’ll go out on a limb here but I think your dreams are telling you to be aware of this, but it is symbolic of something else. For example, the media, the info-tainment complex. It is geared towards controlling us through our emotions. Football, beer commercials, alien encounters, blah blah blah. So if it has already happened you are being told that something needs to be done about it.

    Are these dreams of yours really graphic / gory / disturbing? If they are, this is a cue to me that they are saying to you:

    “WAKE UP”

    Use your intuition in what this message might mean. It is for you and you alone.

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  132. #132 rawanderer
    August 9, 2011 am31 2:03 pm

    Hello friends. Smile Wow, lots of comments to go through today. I woke up unusually late, at about 2pm. I have a feeling I was doing something quite important in the spirit realms, as today I feel such a stronger connection to heaven and such a Loving yet detatched connection to 3d earth.

    Deneb, if you are around could you repost that channeling from Adama pertaining to drugs and the lower astral planes? I tried to go back and find it, but no luck.

    I see people are still talking of the implants, boy this is quite a subject ’round here! I have a very neutral opinion regarding the whole subject. I don’t think they will be neccessary, but they may be a bit of a ‘boost’ for those unawakened who are to take an interest in ascension when the time comes.

    Idk, just my opinion. Not really lookin’ to argue it. Much Love!! Smile Heart Heart Peace Peace

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  133. #133 rawanderer
    August 9, 2011 am31 2:06 pm

    Sunray and Laurinda, where are you guys?!?

    It’s been a minute since I’ve seen either of you post. Miss ya! Smile

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  134. #134 Deneb
    August 9, 2011 am31 2:14 pm

    #132 Rawanderer, sure! here it is:

    The original sacred plants assisted the spiritual evolution of mankind in the beginning of life on this planet for millions of years, until the fourth golden age. During a very long period of Earth evolution, people would occasionally draw on the energies of these plants with much reverence, sacredness and intention. They ate a small portion of a leaf, usually directly from live plants, according to the experience that was desired. There were quite a variety of those plants, and each one offered its own specific spiritual gift. At no time were these plants ever misused, nor was any addiction engendered from their use.

    [...] People did not smoke to inhale these substances through their lungs like it is done with the present-day counterparts of the original plants, which by the way, are not the same plants at all. [...]

    The so called “weeds” that this generation smokes or uses today with the hope of a connection with a higher aspect of themselves, or an experience of other dimensional realities, are not in any way the same plants that were originally used for spiritual purposes. The original plants no longer exist today in your third dimensional reality, although several species have been preserved inside the Earth.

    To understand what happened with this gift that mankind used so freely for a very long time, it is necessary to go back in history at the beginning of the dark ages, when people gave their powers away to lesser vibrations and powers other than their Divine Presence. One by one, the civilizations of this planet gradually forgot their original state of oneness with the divine and opened themselves to the manipulating and controlling energies of the shadow.

    Incarnated beings of the black arts, that had attained a lot of knowledge on other spheres of existence prior to coming to the Earth, became the black magicians of ancient times. They are the ones who first genetically altered the original plants at their roots in order to exercise greater control over the people by dimming their spiritual powers and perceptions. This took place over a long period of time, and the original plants were gradually destroyed or altered to an increasingly reduced vibrational rate. The plants available today as “recreational plants” carry a negatively altered vibration that is a far cry from the original plants.

    What the youth, as well as many adults, on this planet are addicted to are substances that take their users into the lower levels of the astral plane. In the lower astral realms, users get hooked and corded by astral entities needing their energies in order to survive, thus creating the major cause of addictions. Those indulging in these substances endlessly create these distorted energies in the emotional body and other subtle bodies. These entities exist with a consciousness of their own. They are real and alive, living in a low energy consciousness that becomes more and more aggressive in its attempt to gain control of the energies of the user. Over time and with continued usage, the entities grow in number and in power in the energetic field of their hosts.

    These entities of such low vibrational consciousness have so little light and energies of their own that they “have to get hooked” on “willing” human beings and produce cravings in their emotional bodies in order to survive. The cravings are the fundamental roots of addictions created by entities of the astral plane that need to suck your light and your energies whenever they can as a means of assuring their own survival. One can say that your addictions are also “their fix.” This concept of how so many types and levels of addiction are formed is not well understood. If it were, very few of you would be interested in partaking of addictive substances, not even plain commercial cigarettes or alcohol.

    Over time, the vibrations of the remaining plants were altered until what you have left today is a handful of low vibration, consciousness altering plants. Instead of taking people in consciousness to the realms of Light in their multidimensional travels, the negative qualities of the plants you have today take their users into the lower vibration of the astral plane, where light is very dim and consciousness very distorted. The black magicians brilliantly altered the vibrations of the original plants to create a tearing effect in the soul and a greater separation from Source.

    Recreational drugs users are, for most part, people who perceive consciously or unconsciously that they have lost their connection with their Higher Self. They are seeking a form of union at the emotional level with a greater part of themselves. Addictions arise from this natural desire of the soul, which can never be fulfilled by engaging in this kind of activities. Drug users keep inhaling or ingesting more and more of the consciousness altering substances in a desperate desire to reconnect with a part of themselves that would hopefully fill the void and the emptiness they feel in their gut.

    Drug usage illustrates an attempt to find externally the Jewels, the Love that can only be found within the Self, through the Love of Self that beats through your heart.

    I repeat again, mind and soul altering substances that you generally find on the surface can only amplify the void, the emptiness, the loneliness of the soul who seeks fulfillment outside of Self.

    When one relies on a low vibration substance to create an altered state or to reconnect with the divine, the result is only greater illusion and self-deception. Do you understand that?

    The grasses that are grown and the chemical substances that are produced today for mind-altering purposes are totally unnatural to the soul, the physical body, the mind and the emotional body. These substances create distortions in these bodies that can take a very long time to correct, even several lifetimes.

    When there was once love, innocence and purity, when the sacred plants were in their original genetic creation, there is now negativity in the form of a huge group consciousness of drug entities that are destructive to the very fabric of life and consciousness itself. There is hardly any place you can go now that is free from the vibration of these entities. This is another plot of the dark brothers whose agenda is to stop or slow down the evolution of this entire generation. You find very large groups of entities waiting for their “willing prey,” clustered in areas where people gather to inhale or partake of these substances.

    If you could observe from our perspective, you would know without a doubt that anyone indulging in these substances invites legions of these entities in. They cling to you and almost torture you emotionally to incite you to indulge more. They are like hungry vampires competing for their “fix.” The addiction comes not so much from the plant itself, but from the entities who attach themselves to those using these substances. This is the main cause of the torment of addiction.

    This usage and addiction leads most of the time to personality changes and character damage. The soul becomes more and more disconnected from the purpose of its incarnation and from the “real self.” Those who spend their lifetime in this altered state of consciousness may have to experience several more incarnations in order to return to the state of consciousness they engendered before the drug use. They will almost certainly suffer a setback in their personal evolution. No matter how spiritual drug users think they have become with their addiction, we say that they are embracing a great illusion.

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  135. #135 Maffy
    August 9, 2011 am31 2:28 pm

    lol @ 131 hahaha

    No they are not gory or distrubing, just “wrong” and i know it within my dreamstate.

    I am NOT theirs! I KNOW what my true self is, and it doesn’t belong to ANYONE but me! If however you are referring to the physical complex itself, then maybe thats the case. But we are NOT physical beings, ARE WE!?

    If my creator meant for me to have the “qualities” these “implants” could bring he would have given them to me already.

    Saying that however, I don’t need them. What it is i truly am ISNT physical..

    I(we) are here veiled from the “truth” so we can have the most vivid “real” experience possible to know ourselves, this time is coming to an end. Hence, the “end times”

    End if this physical body and onto the next adventure.

    This can only happen AFTER you have “left” your body.

    DEATH itself IS my salvation.

    I’m WIDE awake

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  136. #136 rawanderer
    August 9, 2011 am31 2:30 pm

    Thank you very much Deneb, much Love Smile Heart Heart

    And Vee, thank you very much for posting that SaLuSa message from Laura. I read it this morning, and I have to say everybody should read it, there is extremely valuble information in there. I am quite excited for the brief stint of darkness (voidless creation with the potential for being) in which our biggest shifts will occur!!

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  137. #137 rawanderer
    August 9, 2011 am31 2:32 pm

    Vee, did you know that Laura Tyco used to post here, quite often?

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  138. #138 Maffy
    August 9, 2011 am31 2:36 pm

    Also with reagrds to “stuff” on TV and what-not i really wouldn’t know.

    I don’t own one. Last time i watched one was probably 8-9 months ago.

    LOL maybe thats my problem… HAHAAH (not)

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  139. #139 Maffy
    August 9, 2011 am31 2:46 pm

    Thanks for Post Vee.

    No “implants” in sight! Grin

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  140. #140 rawanderer
    August 9, 2011 am31 2:47 pm

    Again Deneb, thank you for posting that. It’s funny, before I was attempting to debunk said message, only to find out that the being who was channeled (Adama) is actually one of my spiritual guides! I have a bit of commentary on one part:

    “The addiction comes not so much from the plant itself, but from the entities who attach themselves to those using these substances.”

    Cannabis is the only substance I use, and since becoming aware of the potential to be delivered to the lower astral planes, I now bless my cannabis with the pure and full Love of the Creator, and I do a myriad of other things to ensure that these lower beings will not get ahold of me through my cannabis use. This is brought about by enacting a number of disciplines pertaining to said cannabis, and the most important thing to do is couple the use with one’s own consciousness.

    For example: having a smoke and watching some TV may be fun and relaxing. However, I have felt very strongly the ‘burned out’ feeling when doing this, the feeling that makes you want to use more to get back ‘up there’, which is what Adama directly states delivers one to the lower astral planes.

    What I do these days, is use a very little bit for the true purposes of attaining a higher state of consciousness. I go directly into meditation after said use, and I make sure I am surrounded by only pure beings and energies. Used this way, cannabis is SO WONDERFUL!! It can take you to so many wonderful and enlightening places, but you simply have to be using it correctly. I know very many people who do not use it correctly, and as a result are having their energies usurped away from them, straight to these lower astral beings.

    Wow! What a subject. Very interesting, to say the least. Much Love!!! Heart Heart

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  141. #141 Vee
    August 9, 2011 am31 3:14 pm

    #137 no rawanderer I didn’t know she use to post here! How about that, we read the message at the same time. I find great comfort in knowing what to expect. I will be able to help my family when the time comes. I have no fear!

    #40 Maffy, you are so welcome.

    #180 Gunner a couple of months ago I read there were two moons over China. I wonder if it has anything to do with the “blue beam project.”

    #106 Admiral, thanks for the link. What goes on in the dark always comes to the light.

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  142. #142 Vee
    August 9, 2011 am31 3:32 pm

    Regarding Cannabis, I indulged but decided to give it up because it blocked my messages. Also, my guides were sending messages via various articles. One particular day, everything I read was about how it can interfere with communicating with your guides and angels, etc., and I started having negative dreams about it. Like the police knocking on my door and arresting me – I was a nervous wreck Kiss . In another dream, it fell out of my pocket. ROTFL Once I stopped, I began to actually remember the messages! Wink Peace and blessings.

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  143. #143 Admiral2012here
    August 9, 2011 am31 3:46 pm

    …well Vee, maybe Mary Jane is not for everyone. I’ve been with Mary Jane since I was a teenager and I’m awake, have a good job (16 yrs)…raising two wonderfull awaken’d boys and live a simple life. Every evening I get with Mary Jane “moderately” and connect with my higherself. I reflect on the day gone by of all the events that took place and why…I think about past things and why those experiences happened…and I can actually see the Big Picture of my whole life and have been able to let alot of stuff go which has made my life even easier and less stressfull Smile

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  144. #144 rawanderer
    August 9, 2011 am31 3:52 pm

    Addy’s right, it’s not for everyone. But it can certainly have great benefit!! Smile

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  145. #145 steve112
    August 9, 2011 am31 3:57 pm

    I hate to be a drag on this discussion but for the past few weeks I’ve been reading channeling, and I keep seeing the common theme of “soon” or the “coming months.” These go as far back as 2008.

    What time frame are we to expect down here on earth? I know “time” and space are completely different for ascended beings, but are we to just guess? I read that 11.11.11 is an important day but my understanding is very vague.

    Could someone point me in the right direction? Sorry, once again for derailing this discussion.

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  146. #146 Admiral2012here
    August 9, 2011 am31 4:03 pm

    …Steve, everyone has a prob with “Soon”…it’s that “Time” thing…all I know is it’s com’n…there is somewhat of a deadline of 2012…I’m just sit’n back watch’n it all play out and stay’n detached…and Welcome! Steve Smile

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  147. #147 Kellia
    August 9, 2011 am31 4:35 pm

    Rawanderer #49

    I think anyone who becomes president has to take office knowing the possibility of assassination is there. But if you are interested primarily in getting out of office alive than in making change, you shouldn’t run.

    If the aliens truly have Obama’s back, and told him this, as we have read they did, then he could have plowed ahead in the fashion I described, without worry. Did he really receive such a message?

    As for the people under him paying attention to his decrees, that is a concern, but it would be less of a concern if he installed people he could trust in the right places. If Obama is such an agent of change, why did he leave Bush’s man Gates as Secretary of Defense? A lot of Bush appointees kept their jobs. That itself was a signal of insufficient change.

    There would be no chance that I would leave my predecessors’ men/women in any appointed job. My Administration = My People.

    Obama has done a few good things on the periphery, but in the majors matters of war and peace and the economy, he has been anything but a Lightworker. Just ask anyone who has lost someone in war, or who has lost job or home. If he had taken a strong stand on both, ended the wars (and put the savings towards reducing the debt) and put out on E.O. on Medicare for All instead of the backdoor deal for no public option that the New York Times revealed, there would be maybe 20 right wingnuts and blue dog Democrats in the House right now and our reputation with the other nations of the world would be very favorable.

    He came to office at a turning point in our history, and he had a Congress that would back him. He frittered it away. LBJ did not do that after ’64. And he did not get assassinated. Unfortunately, he ruined his legacy with the Vietnam war, but at least he gave us the Social Safety Net Obama is “compromising” away. Boehner said he got 98% of what he wanted in the Debt deal & S&P downgraded US Debt anyway.

    Everywhere you turn, the wingnuts get what they want because Obama won’t really fight them. I am convinced he is one of them.

    Only Nixon could go to China.
    Only a democrat could destroy the nation’s social programs.

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  148. #148 Admiral2012here
    August 9, 2011 am31 4:39 pm

    …Kellia, it’s called keep’n your enemies close so you can keep an eye on them

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  149. #149 Admiral2012here
    August 9, 2011 am31 4:47 pm

    SHELDAN’s NEW MESSAGE

    Dratzo! We return. By increments, your world is being magically transformed. The old order, the last dark cabal, is being de-clawed. Those who represent the new way of the Light have taken stern preliminary measures to ensure that the long nightmare through which you have lived for generations and millennia has come to an end. Your period of limited consciousness is in a state of partial hibernation. Events have occurred that are sapping the life out of a once-vigorous entity! The dark is watching as its wealth and its formerly vast resources slip away. This is being effected by a series of special agreements, and by some soon-to-be major nations that, using their growing prestige and special diplomacy, are formulating a new economic system and a way to force the dark’s major governments from power. Such a shift in power is most disconcerting to the dark. The cabal and its numerous associates are not yet ready to admit defeat and formally permit this new reality to manifest. It is being done for them. Agreements and a special force from Agartha and the Galactic Federation are now preparing the way for your new reality.

    This new reality is based on a new financial and governmental prototype that is, in turn, founded upon transparency and organizations designed to serve you, and not various self-interests. This new societal model requires a vast input from those it serves. Accordingly, you are needed to interact on a daily basis with these new organizations. Banks and financial services are going to be required to treat each customer as if they were wealthy depositors. In fact, you are swiftly destined to become so. Moreover, the caretaker governance will be requesting your constant input. Bear in mind that government exists in a society to serve its citizens. This need gives rise to committees, town house forums and daily periods where people can address any grievances and provide helpful suggestions for improving the interaction between government and citizen. In this new reality, you will evolve away from the ineffective, dark-oriented reality to one in which it is your responsibility to assist in making the new model work effectively and efficiently.

    It is everyone’s responsibility to make these new economic and governmental models work. The Ascended Masters and the Galactic Federation have provided you the resources to fund this new economic model. The same is true of the new caretaker governments. Here, the various secret societies dedicated to the Light, the Agarthans’ liaisons and a number of extremely wealthy and well-placed individuals have come together to ensure that these new temporary governments have the necessary expertise to succeed. The essential element is you. Welcome these moments to join together and use what Heaven so miraculously has thrust at your feet. We in the Galactic Federation come to assist, advise and guide you. The Ascended Masters likewise are deeply devoted to seeing that these preliminary steps lead to your swift return to full consciousness. Your destiny is assured. The dark’s former agents are being prepared for their inglorious exit from your lives. The time has come for a new Light-filled world to be born!

    First contact is a wondrous event that is set to happen in divine right time. We are poised to intervene as soon as Heaven so commands. Until then, as you can see, we are undertaking tasks that will assist both our Earth allies and your Ascended Masters in bringing you to a new realm of Light! We have applied our talents to devise a galactic option that removes the dark’s last cabal from its former position of unchallengeable power. Your Ascended Masters have formulated a complex plan to manifest your new fully conscious realm. Most of this grace-filled scheme has now been manifested. Already, the new financial plan is secretly in effect in many parts of your world. The massive amounts of gold and silver needed to carry out new hard currency provisions are in place. What remains is the final set of maneuvers that will alter the internal organization of the American government. The present illegally-imposed regime is fighting a holding action to preserve the dark’s ill-begotten corporation.

    Blessings! We are your Ascended Masters! Over the past few weeks, we have been working closely with a group of 12 specially-selected liaisons from the Agarthan cities of Shambalah and Telos. These individuals previously operated as intelligence gatherers. They were personally acquainted with all major parties involved in our “discussions” with the American government. Using this background information, we have developed strategies whose primary purpose is to permit this government to sign off legally as regards the agreements made in Europe earlier this year. Moreover, these liaisons gave us some crucial advice on where those individuals who are to form the new “provisional” American government can be kept safe. We need to be able to produce these people at a moment’s notice once we announce this new government’s existence. Their important advice also concerned the best way to approach the current President and how to announce the shift in governance.

    These special liaisons have over 160 years in aggregate experience in such matters. Governance on your world has evolved into a kind of “old boys and girls club” that makes it difficult to successfully conclude a serious set of negotiations without the presence of former or current members of “the club” on your team. The underlying idea is to make the other side’s team realize that we are serious indeed and are sincere in our intent to bring these matters to a triumphal conclusion. We began the closing part of these talks in late July and are now reaching a series of successful “choice points” with the American government. These discussions will set the stage for manifesting a new reality. In one way or another, the many decisive events now taking place around your globe involve the policies and procedures of this current regime. The end result is that these policies are about to be fully abandoned.

    We are busy discussing a full and formal transition that effectively cancels the vast body of statute laws that began appearing suddenly at the start of the first Grant administration. The US is to be returned to a constitutional/common law precedent that promptly restores to you your full citizenship and launches your claim to complete individual sovereignty. These claims can be of equal use in establishing this on a global basis. Our teams are using these special moments to create the umbrella structures that can be employed to maintain this new reality. Our divine design is to produce a prosperous and sane realm in which you will be able to meet your space and spiritual families and initiate a truly meaningful relationship with your Inner Earth cousins. This, of course, is all on the way to your reclaiming of full consciousness and the inestimable wonders that go with it!

    Today, we carried on with our reporting and presented a brief overview of our transformation of your reality. This operation has taken decades to get to where we are now. As we alight on the threshold of victory, bear in mind that you have great responsibilities that demand your full attention! Know, dear Ones, that the countless Supply and never-ending Prosperity of Heaven are indeed Yours! So Be It! Selamat Gajun! Selamat Ja! (Sirian for Be One! and Be in Joy!)

    http://www.paoweb.com/sn080911.htm

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  150. #150 Lux Aeterna
    August 9, 2011 am31 4:50 pm

    #135 Wow, thanks, I haven’t heard an uplifting message like that in a long time.

    Admiral, I can’t believe its like that in Texas, while next door here in Louisiana, it rains every few days. Hope you get some rain soon.

    I have a question. How could I contact my guides?

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  151. #151 Admiral2012here
    August 9, 2011 am31 5:12 pm

    …Lux, your guides are your inner-voice and gut feel’ns…your guides relate to you through your thoughts Smile

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  152. #152 Admiral2012here
    August 9, 2011 am31 5:18 pm

    …don’t you ever get annoy’n nudges to do somethin and you put if off until you can’t stand it anymore and you just do it to only find out it was the best thing you could have done Smile

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  153. #153 Admiral2012here
    August 9, 2011 am31 5:28 pm

    …Oh! and if you have to make a decision…take the least resistant…let some things GO!

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  154. #154 Admiral2012here
    August 9, 2011 am31 5:43 pm

    …talk’n about let’n things GO!…here is Madea giving “Relationship” Advice

    P.S. Robin. do not watch this…you have seen it before

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF_10F7eYRE

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  155. #155 Admiral2012here
    August 9, 2011 am31 6:33 pm

    COMMERCIAL BREAK: GEORGE CARLIN – MODERN MAN

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkCR-w3AYOE

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  156. #156 Admiral2012here
    August 9, 2011 am31 6:38 pm

    COMMERCIAL BREAK 2: GEORGE CARLIN – STUFF (keep it simple)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvgN5gCuLac

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  157. #157 Lux Aeterna
    August 9, 2011 am31 6:45 pm

    ok, but like, how do you communicate like Mike does with Salusa? I see a lot of people on this site who left uplifting messages, and it seems like it’d be a neat experience. I wanna take it to the next level Grin

    Night everyone.

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  158. #158 Admiral2012here
    August 9, 2011 am31 6:52 pm

    …Lux, Mike and SaluSa is a divine connection in these times to provide info to us…take the info or leave it…listen to your inner-voice…I don’t have a connection with SaLuSa, Matthew…but I do have a connection with my higher self and that’s what matters

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  159. #159 rawanderer
    August 9, 2011 am31 7:07 pm

    Kellia:

    “If Obama is such an agent of change, why did he leave Bush’s man Gates as Secretary of Defense? A lot of Bush appointees kept their jobs. That itself was a signal of insufficient change.”

    I agree with you a bit on that note, it was a bit naive to assume he could keep so many of Bushs’ cronies around and still be able to work, but it doesn’t mean he’s on their side. It just means he is a bit naive. You have to take into consideration what Admiral said as well, sometimes the cabal needs to be watched. Luckily we have our ET friends watching their every move!! Grin

    Kellia, I notice subtle things about your post, such as referring to our ET friends as ‘Aliens’ and insulting democrats, suggesting an illusion of seperation in play. I also noticed the comment on the S&P downgrade of the US’ credit rating. That is a good thing!! It is a sign this old system is decaying away, as it should be!

    Much Love Smile

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  160. #160 Lux Aeterna
    August 9, 2011 am31 7:11 pm

    oh, ok. i didnt look at it that way. sorry, i was being selfish.

    I have another question…
    I wouldn’t be fearful to ascend, and I’d gladly do it. but do you have to reach a certain level of conciousness to ascend, or is that what ascensions for? I know my conciousness is a lot higher than it used to be, but IDK if its high enough.
    you dont have to answer this.

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  161. #161 Admiral2012here
    August 9, 2011 am31 7:15 pm

    …awh! go’n to “fill” up the air mattress for 2nite…3D Work 2morrow…not sure what ABC is think’n…maybe he will exit peacefully…I see the male black widow is still alive which tells me there’s no bw eggs to be hatched any time “Soon?”

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  162. #162 steve112
    August 9, 2011 am31 7:17 pm

    In defense of Lux, as a newcomer, it is all extremely foreign. I feel like those who are “awakened” have a hard time realizing how hard it is for the average Joe to comprehend and practice this concept.

    For 20 years of my life it’s been hammered in me that “religion” or the “invisible beings” in the sky is all a joke for mindless individuals that can’t use reason or need something to get them through a rough day. Then I visit this site and people are serving as proxies for these invisible beings, and what they are saying seems goes against everything we’ve ever seen or heard. So forgive me, but this higher self is such a hard concept.

    I’ve been meditating for the past few months and while it has done a wonder for my anxiety, it hasn’t brought me any higher consciousness or meaningfully influenced any of my decision making. I’m still as lost as I was before. My point is that all of this is extremely hard to process. It’s like the famous saying, you must empty your cup to essentially shake off all the programming that you have been operating on since you could walk.

    Well I’ve been trying to make an earnest effort in taking all of this very seriously, but I feel even more in the dark relying on these messages for information. I WANT to tap into my higher self. I want to gain the knowledge from within, but this is no easy task. I consistently read about the “ego” and how it fights for control, but how am supposed to know what I’m doing wrong? Meditation feels very natural, but at the moment it is doing nothing to connect with my higher self. I want to be involved in all of this, but I can’t. I love the message, I love the idea of being my own personal wealth of knowledge and truth but I’m disconnected somehow, and somewhere. It’s like everything is hooked up, but I have yet to find the switch.

    Current method: Sit upright, or lie down in a comfortable position and just relax. Concentrate on breathing, continue to make long deep breaths. Reach a state of calmness, once I notice a little bit of tingling I start to focus a little more… but that’s it. So far it’s just a really nice way of falling asleep or regulating heart rate.

    Is that really how this is supposed to work? Any advice? Thanks again for your responses.

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  163. #163 Admiral2012here
    August 9, 2011 am31 7:25 pm

    …just let Go of “Tradition” and be yourself…and do what’s best for you Smile …nobody knows you better than yourself

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  164. #164 rawanderer
    August 9, 2011 am31 7:27 pm

    Steve-

    “Well I’ve been trying to make an earnest effort in taking all of this very seriously,”

    Well that’s the first problem!! You can’t take anything too seriously dear soul, if you try to you will find yourself butting heads with ego, with mind. Mind and ego will always try to tell you that you need to be more serious, that you are not doing enough in the current moment for your awakening, but I tell you that you ARE.

    Just by being here and searching for truth, you are doing everything you need to be doing. I used to scorn myself if I did not keep up with my spiritual disciplines, but I learned that is not the way!

    I think the best way to activate, to flip on that switch, is to simply relax and not take Life and yourself too seriously. YOU ARE a Divine, Multidimensional being at ALL times, and the best way to access this is to first feel personal ease and happiness. Believe me as I say this from experience, true spiritual clarity, true knowing, comes from first being able to relax, and from knowing and enjoying your own personal Divinity at all times. I hope I was able to help.

    Much Love Smile Grin Heart Heart Peace Peace

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  165. #165 steve112
    August 9, 2011 am31 7:36 pm

    Admiral, Rawanderer.
    Thank you, I’ll try to relax and stop trying to force this upon myself.
    But again, if all of this is true, a part of me doesn’t want to relax and be myself… I want to explore this. I’m always looking for answers and If I have this dormant ability to access all that ever was, is, and is going to be… I don’t want to pass it up! The idea of a higher conscious being, spirit guides, angels… I want to interact and be involved! I don’t want to sit here and wonder what could be… when I might as well be experiencing it? I’m sorry but this is hard to explain. I’m just very excited, and curious as to what I can do to make all of this apart of my everyday life.

    I feel as if I awakened these dormant abilities I would appreciate life and what I’ve been given more appropriately then continuing my mindless zombie existence where I wake up, go to class/work, go to sleep. You know what I mean?

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  166. #166 Lux Aeterna
    August 9, 2011 am31 7:51 pm

    well apparently ascension isnt too far off, so I guess during and after ascension we would be able interact and be involved to our full extent. maybe we should see about 11.11.11.

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  167. #167 steve112
    August 9, 2011 am31 7:57 pm

    Hopefully Grin!
    And excuse me if I’m coming off a little strong. I am extremely grateful for your time, and I really hope you guys aren’t getting the wrong Idea. This has just been quite the revelation and I don’t want to let it slip. I want to explore it. I’ve been trying to figure all of this out on my own, but I’ve failed to do so and I’m considering this a chance to ask for help.

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  168. #168 rawanderer
    August 9, 2011 am31 8:09 pm

    Understood Steve, I have felt much the same way. The best advice I can give you is to take it day by day. Your guides and personal Angels have more than heard your call for more information and more spiritual clarity, trust me especially in these times your motivation and interest in these matters will more than pay off!!!

    Much Love Smile

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  169. #169 rawanderer
    August 9, 2011 am31 8:11 pm

    Worry not Steve!! I can personally guarantee that none of this will slip away, as it is not meant to be so. You are meant to discover your true self. You are meant to blossom into a fully conscious being. You are meant to ascend. And it is happening now!

    And don’t worry, you are not offending anybody. Smile You must not have seen some of the quarrels that have taken place on this site!! LOL

    Smile Heart Heart Peace Peace

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  170. #170 steve112
    August 9, 2011 am31 8:11 pm

    Thank you rawanderer, I’ll try to take it day by day! Cool
    And no, you all seem to be extremely welcoming, I wasn’t aware there were heated debates on here Razz

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  171. #171 dreamwalker
    August 9, 2011 am31 8:46 pm

    Steve, I highly recommend reading through Jay Bland’s guide although your process will most likely differ from his.

    http://www.galacticmessages.com/blog/2011/07/channeling-a-scientific-guide-and-rationale-jay-bland/

    I have included a part of my own experience for what it’s worth. There is certainly no better time than the present! Be open to new pathways, wherever they may take you, and you will be pleasently surprised.

    (repost)

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  172. #172 dreamwalker
    August 9, 2011 am31 8:55 pm

    And also Steve to add to Rawanderer and Admiral’s good advice, this stuff is actually really easy. It is all there right within your reach. We’re here for you on the next steps of your journey.

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  173. #173 dreamwalker
    August 9, 2011 am31 9:01 pm

    #158 – Lux that post 172 was for you too.

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  174. #174 dreamwalker
    August 9, 2011 am31 9:36 pm

    #136 This dream is similar to one I had many years ago. I was in a hospital, with patients. I knew each one that I was seeing was being experimented on, similar to Nazi Germany, yet it was the present day. I saw 6 of them with different problems. It was hard to watch, I felt I was being shown this for a reason. That was, this is one of the important reasons why I’m here walking this path. I have to end this.

    As to ascension in this case I believe it will be different. In the past death was a part of it. I have read messages saying this is something else. This is partly why it’s so big this time. I can provide a few links if interested.

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  175. #175 rawanderer
    August 9, 2011 am31 10:40 pm

    Indeed Dreamwalker, it is not death, it is transcendence!! Grin

    By the way, Adama says hi Smile

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  176. #176 Robin.
    August 10, 2011 am31 3:14 am

    Addy #155. #156. #157.

    Thanks Bro.. appreciate it.. “Repost” will cover it (on all three!).

    *R*

    Smile

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  177. #177 Robin.
    August 10, 2011 am31 3:26 am

    SaLuSa. 10th August 2011.

    Through Mike Quinsey.

    Some people fear that the Illuminati will take advantage of the problems you are experiencing, to bring in World Government. That has always been their ambition, but they no longer command the power to do so, and it is the Light that will reveal the answers that will restore hope for the future. As most of you can see, all around you the unrest and anger is escalating, and will not subside until the root causes are addressed. Our plan is the only one that will restore people’s faith and show that a quantum leap forward is possible. We ask only that you hold your vision of a new order, and paradigm that will solve the present problems. All that is happening has been foreseen for many years, as the dark Ones planned your demise and the collapse of your society. For karmic reasons it has had to run its course, but now the time has arrived for a stop to be put to the continuing destruction and inevitable demise of your civilisation.

    The battle between the dark and Light has reached its end, and although the Light has become the dominant force for good, it now needs to be seen to take over responsibility for the Earth. That is in the process of happening and it pushes Disclosure nearer to being announced. It is therefore more important that you hold fast to your focus on the future, and do not weaken in the face of the increasing turmoil and break up of law and order. The cleansing, which is already taking place, does bring to the surface the negative thought forms that have fuelled the unrest. This way they can be dissipated and transmuted and allow the Light to come in. For our part we beam the higher vibrations to Earth to strengthen the Light that is now growing faster than ever. So do not be misled by the outer signs of upheaval and change, as you will see that in the long run it is to ensure the right outcome.

    We handle the more urgent issues of preventing the final attempts of the dark Ones to take advantage of the world situation. Together we will achieve our goal to bring in stability, and create the conditions that will enable us to go ahead with they next phase of our plan. Once we can do that you will see that events will be speeding ahead, and you will have no doubt that the corner has been turned. An exciting time will commence when all that has been promised to you will manifest. We are more than equal to the task even although the time factor concerns some of you, but you can rest easy as our technological abilities can deal with the demands upon us. No problem is too big, and bear in mind that we have immense resources to call upon.

    Everything is in the melting pot at present, and even we are not sure how it will turn out. We do however know where it is leading and that any attempts to support the old monetary system will fail. The opportunity to introduce a new one has been created by the very ones who do not want to see change. It is therefore ironic that they will have to watch the outcome without being able to influence it any longer. Their time to dictate your policies has passed, and they are losing even more power than ever before. As you might say, the writing is on the wall, and the inevitable ending cannot be avoided. There are greater powers at work than the dark ones are aware, and their days are numbered.

    Meantime, please take each day as it comes and allow the future to come into your lives, and do not worry as your success is assured. Of course it will be chaotic with rumours flying all over the place, and the fear mongers will have a ball. Just remember what you have been working towards for millennia of time, and you are not going to be disappointed. The plan is far too big to be delayed any longer, and you will benefit from the changes a lot quicker than you may imagine. We are ready to jump into action, and once we do it is going to be something of a helter-skelter ride. For all that it will be fun and enjoyable because you know it is entirely for your benefit, and that of Mother Earth.

    Many of you read a number of sources that channel messages from Extraterrestrials, and there has probably never been a time quite like now when there is a general agreement as to what is going to happen. Allow for different interpretations of some events that are coming, because as you are fond of saying, nothing is written in stone. Take what resonates with you and leave the rest to sort itself out with time. However, what will take place regardless of anything else is Ascension, as that has been decreed by the Creator. Many paths lead to it but in the end, you will be there if it is your desire and you are prepared for it.

    You are in the thick of it, and we look on from our vantage point high above you. Our view is clear and we can see what is happening from various angles, so please be comforted and calm when we tell you all will be well. Matters are moving quickly and we hope to see a conclusion to those that will directly affect the issues that are most important. Disclosure is still a means to an end, and will open many more doors once it is announced. The truth will astound many people as to the extent to which you have been controlled, and will hardly be believed. However, the time has arrived when you shall begin to find out how it was achieved and who were responsible.

    Of course many of you are already knowledgeable and politically aware. Even so the truth of what has been happening behind the scenes will bring many surprises. What will help those with stories to tell will be the changes to the Law, and your release from the oaths that enforce your silence. It is possible because once world peace is declared and an end put to wars, there will no necessity to keep information secret for military purposes. In an uplifted society sharing is quite normal, as the desire exists to help all people to benefit from any discoveries. That way you will always have the most up to date innovations and as a civilisation will quickly advance together. You might also note that hoarding also becomes unnecessary, as when you have all you need, there is no incentive to take more than you need.

    I am SaLuSa from Sirius, and enjoy helping you to understand what it is like to live in the higher dimensions. It is a joy and very fulfilling and you can be your true self as a Being of Love and Light.

    Thank you SaLuSa.

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    In Light!

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  178. #178 Space Muffin
    August 10, 2011 am31 4:37 am

    Notice how he said ‘the writing is on the wall?’

    That reminds me of one of my recent posts…

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  179. #179 Robin.
    August 10, 2011 am31 4:59 am

    We are all One!

    Smile

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  180. #180 Gunner
    August 10, 2011 am31 5:46 am

    This ones for you Admiral. I usually get so bored with her channellings but this one really got me excted.

    Hello once again. I’ve been rather busy ( as you probably would know). I ‘get the urge’ to say hello when I haven’t been in touch for a while.

    Yet for us dearest one, it is but from one moment to the next . The souls recognition of itself cannot be missed. For that is all we are … one another … always present with the self and each other … yet in different form. As the heart remembers the reconnection valve then there is a change regarding many things.

    When one fully understands the meaning of the fact that we are all one, we are all each other … when one TRULY KNOWS this … how then would an individual consider causing any form of pain to itself? This is what we are trying to express to you … we are no different from you in essence … only in form . The same way that an insect is no different from you in essence … only form. Yet how … because of this difference of appearance … can your human form dispel such hatred and abuse at times for one that simply ‘appears’ differently.

    I know. It is a sad thing I find, that some upon this earth have ‘chosen’ to consider another ‘less’ than themselves.

    And yet you are aware of the words ‘ What you do unto another … you do unto yourselves’. This law cannot be escaped. For BEING ONE , how can you do what you do to another and it not effect you in the same way?

    Do you mean here … karma? I could interpret that a few ways. In that , if one were to torture another … at some other ‘place’ in the human experience, the same would be done to them?

    That question is taking us into very deep waters.

    I’ll get my snorkel!

    If , for example, a soul was to severely maim another human being … say by severing off a limb, with the intent of causing grief and pain … it does not mean that at some point in the lifetimes of the maimer that they too will have the same done to them . Yet we would announce that they will at some juncture in their experience encounter the same ‘FEELING’ both physicality and emotionally. Yet not necessarily by the severance of a limb. The physical pain is traumatic indeed but the ‘karmic law’ as you call it ..

    What would you call it?

    We would term it ‘The law of attraction’.

    What???!!!!!

    You seem surprised. Yet we say to you that whatever you ‘give out’ you will undoubtedly receive back … attract back to yourself. It cannot be avoided.Yet it is more so the emotional repercussions that one must endure. For physical pain eases … yet the scar to another’s soul when they have been severely treated takes a much greater time to heal and the inflictor of such pain has to endure of the same in order to understand exactly what it had put upon … itself. It is not punishment as many of you consider it to be. There is no punishment from our understanding ways. There is however a necessity for the soul self to fully accept responsibility for all its actions.

    You are wondering what we are to discuss next are you not? We understand that there are many many questions that souls of Earth would dearly Love to have answered by us and they ask of you to ask us. There is an acceptance between us that we give forth that which we find most appropriate to speak of . We are aware of this . From our perspective there is so much we could tell , so many avenues to explore and yet such matters we consider to be unraveled in their appropriate time slot. What is to come … as we have said many times … will be KNOWN by the place in your heart … and when incidents occur … the soul will recognize them. What we consider to be of most value is to help you understand yourselves … in order to prepare the way.

    May I say you are doing a grand job. For you have indeed , through your word’s … assisted many to look upon this live of ours differently from the way we once did.

    And this is our quest. Yet we say this is just kindergarten. Once the changes are in place …. the ‘Here we are’ changes … then there will be a whole new level of learning and understanding to work with . It will be of great ease for those who choose to acknowledge their Truth instantly. Others may take greater caution . Each individual must follow their hearts path when the changes assuredley get underway . We are aware of many changes that have already taken place , but these are just the baby steps in order for the great announcement to fall into place and that which the soul has cried for at night … shall come to pass.

    We have been here before I know … and I think so differently about things now than I did three years ago when you announced you were to appear in our skies … yet … gotta say it my friends … come that day when our jaw drops to the ground in awe of your LIGHT presence … in which ever form it may take … there will be thousands upon thousands of us whose hearts will dissolve into uncontrollable tears for the KNOWING that we KNEW!

    Yet you still now and then have doubts do you not?

    Not big ones. I just sometimes wonder if we should find ourselves in 2020 and still no sign … what would my FEELINGS be about it? Yet, I have changed my attitude so much, that I guess … if I continue on doing so …. by 2020 ‘I’ will be so very different from what I am even now. So no matter what is going on in our world I will be accepting it from a different place within myself. The thought of you landing on earth on a regular basis and it being the norm seems such a far off dream … looking at the ‘reality’ we are dreaming now …

    And yet can you honestly say that you do not FEEL it … SEE it in your minds eye … when you think of it and KNOW it to be True?

    I don’t know to be honest with you. It could just as easily be something that I simply want to happen. Anyway … sorry I am daydreaming … wandering off a little .. shall we talk about something more tangible?

    You mean something you can get your hands on?

    Where’s this going?

    Your KNWOING is not something that can be touched physically. Your KNOWING comes from another aspect of yourself … your HIGHER self. This is why we ask so often and why your dearest compatriot White Cloud acknowledges the importance of allowing yourselves to ‘switch off ‘ … for just a short period of your time and connect up with the fullness of yourself.

    Here, ALL KNOWLEDGE IS KNOWN. The more you understand how to access it , the less inquisitive you become because there is nothing you do not KNOW. All the questions that run around in the heads of many will dissolve, when they learn to be at peace with ‘this aspect’ of the self and allow the connection of all aspects to unite for just a small period of time. Eventually , there will be a time when the presence of the HIGHER self is present within the animated Being as a matter of course. You FEEL that this must be in the very distant future, yet we would change that way of thinking about that FELING!

    Once the show begins … the changes within the self will accumulate at a pace yet unknown. In the vibration you are currently residing in … the changes can effect your physicality and emotional well being quite strongly and move you off balance. Yet when the Higher vibration arrives carrying within it that which you long to see … the ongoing changes that will be occurring within the soul self will not ‘knock one around’ so fully. The adjustments will be FELT with more ease and accepted and utilized in what will become the normal way of BEing. Therefore, once in motion … the quickening of where ones soul is moving into will be of such … that one can hardly recognize oneself from one moment to the next.

    KNOW … FEEL … CONNECT … with your HIGHER self whenever you think to do so. It is of great KNOWLEDGE and of a LIGHT that would dazzle your human eyes … and yet …. dearest beloved friends … THIS IS WHO YOU TRULY ARE. FEEL IT …. KNOW IT … BE IT.

    We repeat again because of the importance … Do you think we would be wasting your time and ours by offering these words to you if these wonders were not to come about? Think about it? FEEL … KNOW … the difference within yourselves these days and how far you have opened yourselves up to your TRUTHFULLNESS. BY FEELING this journey you are traveling … you will recognize OUR TRUTH . OUR reason in conversing with you dear friends … is not to simply pass the time of day … it is so that you can KNOW and BE PREPARED for all that we have spoken about … to come into your place of existence at this time … wherever you are.

    The waiting at time seems unbearable … yet when you are living in your Truth … there is no waiting … you already have what you are waiting for .

    Thank you … eh … just a note for your diary … The pillars of light??? You said by the end of our year … just so you don’t forget. Many are looking out for them. I know we have 5 months , just didn’t want it to slip your mind … knowing how busy you are an’ all!

    And how do you FEEL about them and the appearance of ?

    You know don’t you? But seeing as you asked there must be a reason . I would like them to show as you have said. Otherwise … I will of course have to consider correspondence with you. EVEN THOUGH … I KNOW you to be of TRUTH and how you are helping so many … it wouldn’t be right for you to say this and then not deliver the goods.

    I accept your TRUTH about Oct 14th and why you could not do as you had wanted. I accept that Oct 14th was for many many reasons … But we have our TRUST in you … on a very deep level … and to not have a display of such when you said there wouldbe one … would not make sense. Your ‘street cred’ would take yet another dive … and CLEARLY I don’t want that to happen. Do you see where I am coming from? Some say WE are the pillars , some say this , some say that . YOU said there would be pillars of great Light in the sky that would carry the most wonderful energy. For all to see. You did not say metaphorically etc … you said that we could not miss them. So … I greatly look forward to seeing them …. OK??? Good. Marvellous! LOVE YA!

    Point taken . Point understood. We smile at you as you are smiling at us. Our BENGS swell with LIGHT and Love at you as yours do at us. WE ARE ONE.

    IN lOVE AND THANKS UNTIL NEXT TIME.

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  181. #181 Vee
    August 10, 2011 am31 7:26 am

    Good morning all!

    Admiral and Gunner, I agree with you guys, it’s not for everyone. I certainly enjoyed it when I did partake. I’m not down on it at all. I think it’s great that it enhances your spiritual experiences. Everyone should find what works for them. My high now is a natural high. Big Smile

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  182. #182 Admiral2012here
    August 10, 2011 am31 8:00 am

    WANDERER OF THE SKIES (Aug 10)

    Greetings from the Federation:

    We have seen the Illuminati’s effects diminish so much over the course of such a small amount of time that it is encouraging for the Disclosure announcement. We perceive that the last of the “hold outs” are actually rogue military operations from several of your governments who do not want to give up their grasp on power. Some of these are of fundamentalist religious persuasions, so we are perceived as a great threat to them instead of the allies we are for humanity. These groups, now disconnected and operating separately, monitor these channelings to determine what advantage they can take over us. They cannot ever imagine the extent and nature of our technology. They have been the recipients of technology spoon fed to them by various self interested species over the years and believe that those technologies are the “cutting edge” of what is out there among the different races of beings in this universe. They are sadly mistaken in this belief. They were given only small amounts of disjointed technologies for those species’ own protection. It does not even touch the tip of the iceberg of the level of our technological capabilities.

    As we have discussed with you, all events which have ever occurred can be accessed through our technology. This technology is actually available to these rogue groups and in use presently by them. We know every move these rogue groups make, where they intend next to take action, and what their ultimate plans are. We have already demonstrated to you how easy it is for us to switch off your nuclear weapons, disable rocketry intended to deliver them, and otherwise cause disruption to military actions. We indicate these things to you not to laud our strength over you, but to let you know that we could have, at any time, overtaken your planet by force if we chose to do so. It is not our intention. We are here out of Love and concern for you, our brothers and sisters. While some of you “get this,” others, like these rogue groups, have ideologies that blind them from the truth.

    When these rogue elements come to the table to be part of the agreements that so many others of the Illuminati have already acquiesced in, then we will consider it safe that we disclose. Part of the ongoing delay in Disclosure is due to this hold out. Our diplomatic teams have been in contact with the representatives of these groups but it is difficult to discuss these issues with them.

    As more unrest grows around your world, worry and fear will become the dominant mode of thought for many. This dominant thought will overtake your planet unless you, who have been prepared for so long, undo these emotions with Love and Compassion. It is your responsibility to bring these truths to as many as you can. We suggest you talk naturally of these issues as if everyone already knew about them. In that way, the ice is broken and a deeper discussion on these issues can commence as a way in which to overcome fear with knowledge.

    Time grows shorter by the day. If these rogue elements do not reach an agreement with our emissaries soon, we will have no choice but to bypass them in the arrangements being made. We are reasonably confident that your leaders, and many of the former Illuminati, will pave the way for as smooth a transition as possible despite the absence of these groups in the agreement.

    Know that we are with you at all times and will never abandon you to the devices of the old order. Your time to become Cosmic Citizens is upon you. We know you are up to the task and we excitedly await your acceptance of our invitation.

    Be at peace

    http://wandererodtheskies.blogspot.com/2011/08/august-10-2011.html

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  183. #183 Gunner
    August 10, 2011 am31 8:02 am

    Good mourning Vee.
    Actually, I dont use it for spiritual experiences because after I smoke, I am like a zombie. I guess I do it to relax at night. I also dont like to smoke with others because I am not social at all on that. I just want to be alone with it and watch TV, I am a very boring smoker. I actually feel so stupid and idiotic around people when I smoke.
    If I go somewhere fun, I definetely wont smoke. i only do it at the end of the night .

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  184. #184 Vee
    August 10, 2011 am31 9:42 am

    #163 Hi Steve,

    Have you heard or read about “Chakras?” I’m no expert, not by a long shot but I think you may have some blocked Chakras that needs to be opened and balanced. I suggest you research balancing Chakras. When I want to make sure my Chakras are still open I visualize a flower and I start at the root Charka. I make the flower open, if I am able to open the flower and hold it there for a few moments I know it is not blocked. Then I move to the next Charka and do the same. This process may take some time (not in one setting) to open all of your Charkas. Of course you can use any object you choose to perform this visualization. Some people use a ball. Your third eye might be blocked and needs to be open so that you may make the connection with your higher self.

    Does anyone have any thoughts on my suggestion? Peace and blessings

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  185. #185 Vee
    August 10, 2011 am31 9:49 am

    Gunner, I understand. I used it because I enjoyed it and it totally relaxed me. It also helped me sleep at night. Some people think it is addictive (maybe for some it is), but when I decided to stop, I just quit. I used it for many, many years. Peace and blessings

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